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 [WTA]Fiesta vs 208 vs Inspira vs Prius C, <RM90k car for Single late 20s male

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post Jul 13 2013, 04:28 PM

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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Jul 13 2013, 04:25 PM)
He dun even know 4B10 n 11, 12 comes with dual VVTI. propably dunno what it is
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it comes with dualcraptor
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post Jul 13 2013, 04:28 PM

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 13 2013, 04:12 PM)
nzh0920,
You took modified Inspira laptime vs NA Lancer? Look at your list, 1.6 Forte beats 2.0 Forte. What else, those are nothing more than unsorted category list. Is that the best lap time in the first place?

People talking about NA unmodified car vs category. You go and include turbocharged or tuned up variant together. Take NA category list before you come here and talk crap.

Koreans, they have moved further with dual VVT. You still stuck with single VVT?

K3nnYkl82,
Just the arm? How bout the rest then? People look into overall. FYI, the old Saga '06 I had, can still find hidden MMC logo on part of the car body.

What is the big deal? Inspira is not Lancer, enough brag and get back to real life.
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Wah now is like how?
Loser "fatt LAN Zha"?

LOL!!!! U damn power la really. Next time u can go another forum introduce yourself.

I am not only famous in AW, but also lowyat fnf!!! Hahahahahaa
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post Jul 13 2013, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Jul 13 2013, 04:16 PM)
Bugger the whole list is there ... YOU ARE THE ONE TALKING ABOUT THE ARM PREVIOUSLY..
Go search how many PW parts there yourself ...
i didnt says 100% mitsu parts .. but mechanical wise almost .. because manufacture cost to manufacure a metal part isnt cheap if u do not know already.

We own inspira but we dont crap like you.

Again i repeat .. lots of mitsu parts..
refer to the list .. 1234A567 is mitsu parts .. PW123456 is proton parts .

and i repeat again workmanship is not as good as mitsu

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Again .. mr jaycraptor .. we talk base on fact .. not like u .. whenever ppl prove u wrong .u go twist ..
and i already said .. inspira is tune more to comfort while lancer is towards sporty .. its nothing to do with the chassis like what you crap.
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Nice comparison. Wonder why Lancer can still sell if your Inspira is that close to Lancer technically. Just because of build workmanship, people willing to pay >RM20k extra to get Lancer 2.0EX/GT rather than lower grade Inspira 2.0 at RM93k? Like you for example, you can spend less than RM10k to get Lancer bumpers, badges, steering wheels, etc already.

Tell this to Lancer owners whether they agree with you. Verdict about Inspira, nothing more than a lower quality Lancer wannabe. You can only be called LANCAR but not Lancer. This is the only reason why Lancer still survive today rather than wrap up like what happened back then. Like Myvi owners trying to think themselves as driving Toyota. Inspira owners are like dreaming of driving Japanese C-segment.

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post Jul 13 2013, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 13 2013, 04:32 PM)
Nice comparison. Wonder why Lancer can still sell if your Inspira is that close to Lancer technically. Just because of build workmanship, people willing to pay >RM20k extra to get Lancer 2.0EX/GT rather than lower grade Inspira 2.0 at RM93k? Like you for example, you can spend less than RM10k to get Lancer bumpers, badges, steering wheels, etc already.

Tell this to Lancer owners whether they agree with you.
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Eh
Juz now u crap differently one..
U says many localize part
Diff build quaility of the parts
Now turn your dirrextion lagi ah?

Mana ur localize part?
Mana ur lancer gl chassis claim?
Mana ur less parts in suspension systrm?

Lancer gt 125k
Inspira 86k 2.0E
Thats almost 40k
Yes I admit we cheapskate but the 40k doesnt worth thst to me..
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post Jul 13 2013, 04:42 PM

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Jaycraptor previous very proud tell ppl localize part a lot. Base on his experience with wira 1.6z
Then he claim suspension less some part that very hard to describe
Further claim no emission control crap in USA
Then claim build parts are of diff quality and material

Now agree with me diff is towards workmanship or after sales service!
Further more says I plan to tipu ppl with so call mitsu parts.... Sorry im not a fair journalist
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post Jul 13 2013, 04:42 PM

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Sorry, I do not read the whole thread.

Many parts of Inspira are shared with Lancer, even though different in part number.
Most of the parts, Proton simply mark up the price and end up much more expensive than Mitsubishi parts.

From what I know, the headlamp of Inspira are different than Lancer, hence the price different.

Price not same doesn't mean they are not the same.
For suspension parts, afaik only absorbers are made locally (also why it so affordable). Everything else is the same as Lancer, also much more expensive than Lancer (marked up price).
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post Jul 13 2013, 04:43 PM

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most of the parts still mitsu la !!! go see other ppl inspira and compare !!
not tambah api here !! personally i choose inspira over cerato bcoz

1 price
2 how ever u make the torsion beam still independent still better !! if u know wat i mean !! but diff ppl diff thinking lar !!
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post Jul 13 2013, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 13 2013, 04:32 PM)
Nice comparison. Wonder why Lancer can still sell if your Inspira is that close to Lancer technically. Just because of build workmanship, people willing to pay >RM20k extra to get Lancer 2.0EX/GT rather than lower grade Inspira 2.0 at RM93k? Like you for example, you can spend less than RM10k to get Lancer bumpers, badges, steering wheels, etc already.

Tell this to Lancer owners whether they agree with you. Verdict about Inspira, nothing more than a lower quality Lancer wannabe. You can only be called LANCAR but not Lancer. This is the only reason why Lancer still survive today rather than wrap up like what happened back then. Like Myvi owners trying to think themselves as driving Toyota. Inspira owners are like dreaming of driving Japanese C-segment.
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lol changed direction crap again.
im sorry , my car got many thing that even local spec lancer dont hv it, why i wanna admire them whistling.gif whistling.gif

but still your forte 1.6 4 spd AT is still the best among all other cars whistling.gif whistling.gif whistling.gif
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 13 2013, 04:32 PM)
Nice comparison. Wonder why Lancer can still sell if your Inspira is that close to Lancer technically. Just because of build workmanship, people willing to pay >RM20k extra to get Lancer 2.0EX/GT rather than lower grade Inspira 2.0 at RM93k? Like you for example, you can spend less than RM10k to get Lancer bumpers, badges, steering wheels, etc already.

Tell this to Lancer owners whether they agree with you. Verdict about Inspira, nothing more than a lower quality Lancer wannabe. You can only be called LANCAR but not Lancer. This is the only reason why Lancer still survive today rather than wrap up like what happened back then. Like Myvi owners trying to think themselves as driving Toyota. Inspira owners are like dreaming of driving Japanese C-segment.
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U said u know a lot bout cars.....
But u have no idea what is rebadged?

U can live happily ever after la. Tell u what also no use.
Same thing less weight also u can tell d. Respect.

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QUOTE(allenultra @ Jul 13 2013, 04:42 PM)
Sorry, I do not read the whole thread.

Many parts of Inspira are shared with Lancer, even though different in part number.
Most of the parts, Proton simply mark up the price and end up much more expensive than Mitsubishi parts.

From what I know, the headlamp of Inspira are different than Lancer, hence the price different.

Price not same doesn't mean they are not the same.
For suspension parts, afaik only absorbers are made locally (also why it so affordable). Everything else is the same as Lancer, also much more expensive than Lancer (marked up price).
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U got the points, but not our "journalist"

Same as lancer is true, design only.
He said weight different ok!

Have a good weekend hahahaha
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post Jul 13 2013, 04:48 PM

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QUOTE(allenultra @ Jul 13 2013, 04:42 PM)
Sorry, I do not read the whole thread.

Many parts of Inspira are shared with Lancer, even though different in part number.
Most of the parts, Proton simply mark up the price and end up much more expensive than Mitsubishi parts.

From what I know, the headlamp of Inspira are different than Lancer, hence the price different.

Price not same doesn't mean they are not the same.
For suspension parts, afaik only absorbers are made locally (also why it so affordable). Everything else is the same as Lancer, also much more expensive than Lancer (marked up price).
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most of the parts, more or less the same, some parts proton side cheaper, some parts mitsu side cheaper

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post Jul 13 2013, 04:52 PM

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Proton parts more expensive bcoz they buy from mitsu have to rebadge the package.. The sticker no need money ah? Handle the repackaging also require admin fees.. The more smart way juz buy from mitsu
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post Jul 13 2013, 04:54 PM

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Still wanted to spread lies here? Will check with those parts people and revert back to you. If any of your claim are false and proven you are with P1 marketing team spreading false lies to boost sales by saying 'Inspira techwise is same as Lancer', I will shoot you back kaw kaw. You don't mess with consumers. This will take time in order to get to them.
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 13 2013, 04:54 PM)
Still wanted to spread lies here? Will check with those parts people and revert back to you. If any of your claim are false and proven you are with P1 marketing team spreading false lies to boost sales by saying 'Inspira techwise is same as Lancer', I will shoot you back kaw kaw. You don't mess with consumers. This will take time in order to get to them.
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No problem.. Juz make sure u come back!
and I like to shoot ppl who assume yet wanna convinse ppl his believe.. Mr journalist
Remember to check with proper part ppl.. Not ur cousin or neighbour or whom who work in proton (as a garbage collector. Or a toilet cleaner)

If im a proton sales man I wont show u the difference between proton inspira n lancer d.. Use ur brain la

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post Jul 13 2013, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 13 2013, 04:54 PM)
Still wanted to spread lies here? Will check with those parts people and revert back to you. If any of your claim are false and proven you are with P1 marketing team spreading false lies to boost sales by saying 'Inspira techwise is same as Lancer', I will shoot you back kaw kaw. You don't mess with consumers. This will take time in order to get to them.
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please show me where u got the proof that inspira is lancer GL chasis first? whistling.gif whistling.gif
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post Jul 13 2013, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Jul 13 2013, 04:56 PM)
No problem.. Juz make sure u come back!
and I like to shoot ppl who assume yet wanna convinse ppl his believe.. Mr journalist
Remember to check with proper part ppl.. Not ur cousin or neighbour or whom who work in proton (as a garbage collector. Or a toilet cleaner)

If im a proton sales man I wont show u the difference between proton inspira n lancer d.. Use ur brain la
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Why not if the difference is not that serious? As long as the comparison is feasible towards the products and able to convince buyers, marketing staff allowed to post the details. Since the engine and gearbox are directly from Japan, can void the 2. Others, whether they are made in Japan, it is question mark.

nzh0920,
The kerb weight is imminent evidence of Lancer GL rather than GT. Still want to compare? It's a soft suspension. What else.
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 13 2013, 05:14 PM)
Why not if the difference is not that serious? As long as the comparison is feasible towards the products and able to convince buyers, marketing staff allowed to post the details. Since the engine and gearbox are directly from Japan, can void the 2. Others, whether they are made in Japan, it is question mark.

nzh0920,
The kerb weight is imminent evidence of Lancer GL rather than GT. Still want to compare? It's a soft suspension. What else.
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rclxms.gif rclxms.gif rclxms.gif show me the proof that u found to show that GLS and GT got diff type of chasis? whistling.gif whistling.gif

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post Jul 13 2013, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 13 2013, 05:14 PM)
Why not if the difference is not that serious? As long as the comparison is feasible towards the products and able to convince buyers, marketing staff allowed to post the details. Since the engine and gearbox are directly from Japan, can void the 2. Others, whether they are made in Japan, it is question mark.

nzh0920,
The kerb weight is imminent evidence of Lancer GL rather than GT. Still want to compare? It's a soft suspension. What else.
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See .. I show u the whole list yet u still dun wan believe! And claim I work with proton! GG. You can pm me. I can send you my name card. I work in IT company.

You know whats your problem? You created your own illusion. When ppl give u fact, you just dont want to accept. Coz you think you know cars more than any other ppl.

Kerb weight diff doesnt means chassis diff. Many other parts contribute to kerb weight
Suspension setup doesnt means chassis diff! You dont understand english isit?
Forte EX and forte SX. Kerb weight diff. Different chassis??
Duhhh
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post Jul 13 2013, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Jul 13 2013, 05:22 PM)
See .. I show u the whole list yet u still dun wan believe! And claim I work with proton! GG. You can pm me. I can send you my name card. I work in IT company.

You know whats your problem? You created your own illusion. When ppl give u fact, you just dont want to accept. Coz you think you know cars more than any other ppl.

Kerb weight diff doesnt means chassis diff. Many other parts contribute to kerb weight
Suspension setup doesnt means chassis diff! You dont understand english isit?
Forte EX and forte SX. Kerb weight diff. Different chassis??
Duhhh
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post Jul 13 2013, 05:27 PM

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I'm not sure others but I'm not just consumers.

I'm operate a Insurance Claim Collision Repair workshop in Ipoh.
Sometimes I do purchase Lancer parts to be installed on Inspira for my customers (they are the same, except the packaging) at a lower price than Proton counterparts.

Review to some comparisons below

Lancer GT
Door Front LH 5700A557 RM2,671.50
Suspension Arm Front LH 4013A009 RM561.89

Inspira
Door Front LH 5700A557 RM2,138.60
Suspension Arm Front LH 4013A279 RM809.53

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