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 [WTA]Fiesta vs 208 vs Inspira vs Prius C, <RM90k car for Single late 20s male

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K3nnYkl82
post Jul 13 2013, 03:51 PM

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Im telling u the arm are from mitsu .. U are telling mr back I changed it.. whistling.gif
Inspira is a FF car.. U cant drift over the conners whistling.gif

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post Jul 13 2013, 04:02 PM

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Sorry Mr jaycraptor.. you really crap too much i really beh tahan ..

let me teach u how to see ..

here is a link of proton inspira part list ..
Inspira Parts


If you look at the parts ... 1234A567 (these are from mitsu)
proton parts number are PW123456

Example

655 [All] Suspension Arm Front RH 4013A280
699 [All] Vehicle Tool Bag PW582025 5.77


okay . now i search the same thing online for u


Online Parts

Now you can go thru the parts ur self.

Next i know you going to tell me SOMEONE CREATED THE PART LIST .. whistling.gif

I dont do asumption ... i read base on fact!

and i repeat .. inspira still a proton build quality .. but crap from you that the parts are localize.. shakehead.gif
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post Jul 13 2013, 04:04 PM

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 13 2013, 03:41 PM)
You are just trying to degrade the Lancer. If what you said is true, the Lancer will not be able to sell a single unit like Galant today. Don't try to create the false impression that the Inspira is exact clone of Lancer. The Inspira is a Lancer with P1 parts, ofcourse you can replace them anytime with Lancer parts. As for tuning, they are alll using the port and software, no problem using MMC diagnostic tools.

FYI, Wira also can share Lancer '94 parts, Iswara/Saga can share Lancer '81 parts, Perdana also can share Galant '94 parts, Perdana V6 can share with Eterna V6 parts. No problem because the mounting remain unchange.

If what you said true, wonder how come Inspira can't beat Lancer on racetrack where both are ori and unmodded? You want to prove which handling better, get 1 amateur to drive and take sharp turn at 100, 110, 120, 130, 140 and so on. Your Inspira will lose control before Lancer. If you are pro' you might be able use your drift skill to cover up but still if it's understeer, there's nothing you can do but wait for it to end before resume.
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Mr BullSh!t with long essay JayCraptor.
so for your theory, korean build sh!t car in the past, they still producing sh!t car?

as for laptime if u interested

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post Jul 13 2013, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 13 2013, 02:24 PM)
Late reply, just got back from site-job. This is to reply your Inspira vs Forte thread. There are things that could not be described here and would require you to try on the track to find out. Inspira and Lancer both using Multi-link but both are different quality and material. They are not the same, 1 from MMC and 1 from P1 Lotus.

Example, there are 2 metal bars from 2 different manufacturers, sizes could be similar but weight, solidity, etc different still. Understand?

When Perdana introduced, the Galant is allowed to be sold but it didn't get to sell anymore since Perdana introduced. People just don't think about Galant that is using the same platform as Perdana. They buy Perdana if can't afford Accord, Camry, Telstar or 626. This was before MMC being forced to cease operation in 1995 due to too poor sales in cars segment. Lancer is still alive today because it has what your Inspira doesn't have. This is fact, your Inspira is nothing close to Lancer other than physically the same. Whatever detune you say, in US, there is no such thing on the emission thingy. Seems like P1 protection forced our local MMC Lancer to be fitted with GL tuning so that they don't get to challenge Inspira sales.
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No wonder it is raining.....
Hahahahahahaha both arms are arms but they are different material?

Same design but weight different. Yes yes just like twins also got a bit difference? That's what u mean?

Next sentence u mentioned, 1 from MMC 1 from P1 lotus?
Now I am really interested. Can you somehow-anyhow with a kind-hearted share some "underground" source?
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post Jul 13 2013, 04:08 PM

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Need further proof?
Got this from my free service
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They dont even bother to localize the air filter.. whistling.gif
This bloody thing they sell 149.

And you was saying localize lower arm? I change that over time!
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post Jul 13 2013, 04:12 PM

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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Jul 13 2013, 04:04 PM)
Mr BullSh!t with long essay JayCraptor.
so for your theory, korean build sh!t car in the past, they still producing sh!t car?

as for laptime if u interested

user posted image

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nzh0920,
You took modified Inspira laptime vs NA Lancer? Look at your list, 1.6 Forte beats 2.0 Forte. What else, those are nothing more than unsorted category list. Is that the best lap time in the first place?

People talking about NA unmodified car vs category. You go and include turbocharged or tuned up variant together. Take NA category list before you come here and talk crap.

Koreans, they have moved further with dual VVT. You still stuck with single VVT?

K3nnYkl82,
Just the arm? How bout the rest then? People look into overall. FYI, the old Saga '06 I had, can still find hidden MMC logo on part of the car body.

What is the big deal? Inspira is not Lancer, enough brag and get back to real life.
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post Jul 13 2013, 04:13 PM

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mr raptor

i also cant tahan ur crap.

Headlamps

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Brakes

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K3nnYkl82
post Jul 13 2013, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 13 2013, 04:12 PM)
nzh0920,
You took modified Inspira laptime vs NA Lancer? Look at your list, 1.6 Forte beats 2.0 Forte. What else, those are nothing more than unsorted category list. Is that the best lap time in the first place?

People talking about NA unmodified car vs category. You go and include turbocharged or tuned up variant together. Take NA category list before you come here and talk crap.

Koreans, they have moved further with dual VVT. You still stuck with single VVT?

K3nnYkl82,
Just the arm? How bout the rest then? People look into overall. FYI, the old Saga '06 I had, can still find hidden MMC logo on part of the car body.

What is the big deal? Inspira is not Lancer, enough brag and get back to real life.
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Bugger the whole list is there ... YOU ARE THE ONE TALKING ABOUT THE ARM PREVIOUSLY..
Go search how many PW parts there yourself ...
i didnt says 100% mitsu parts .. but mechanical wise almost .. because manufacture cost to manufacure a metal part isnt cheap if u do not know already.

We own inspira but we dont crap like you.

Again i repeat .. lots of mitsu parts..
refer to the list .. 1234A567 is mitsu parts .. PW123456 is proton parts .

and i repeat again workmanship is not as good as mitsu

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Again .. mr jaycraptor .. we talk base on fact .. not like u .. whenever ppl prove u wrong .u go twist ..
and i already said .. inspira is tune more to comfort while lancer is towards sporty .. its nothing to do with the chassis like what you crap.
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post Jul 13 2013, 04:17 PM

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 13 2013, 03:41 PM)
You are just trying to degrade the Lancer. If what you said is true, the Lancer will not be able to sell a single unit like Galant today. Don't try to create the false impression that the Inspira is exact clone of Lancer. The Inspira is a Lancer with P1 parts, ofcourse you can replace them anytime with Lancer parts. As for tuning, they are alll using the port and software, no problem using MMC diagnostic tools.

FYI, Wira also can share Lancer '94 parts, Iswara/Saga can share Lancer '81 parts, Perdana also can share Galant '94 parts, Perdana V6 can share with Eterna V6 parts. No problem because the mounting remain unchange.

If what you said true, wonder how come Inspira can't beat Lancer on racetrack where both are ori and unmodded? You want to prove which handling better, get 1 amateur to drive and take sharp turn at 100, 110, 120, 130, 140 and so on. Your Inspira will lose control before Lancer. If you are pro' you might be able use your drift skill to cover up but still if it's understeer, there's nothing you can do but wait for it to end before resume.
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abang, saya beri abang pinjam saya punya lancer mahu? tapi driver inspira saya mahu jadi, boleh? abang ada inspira tak mahu kasi saya pinjam? atau abang ada lancer tak?


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post Jul 13 2013, 04:22 PM

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 13 2013, 04:12 PM)
nzh0920,
You took modified Inspira laptime vs NA Lancer? Look at your list, 1.6 Forte beats 2.0 Forte. What else, those are nothing more than unsorted category list. Is that the best lap time in the first place?

People talking about NA unmodified car vs category. You go and include turbocharged or tuned up variant together. Take NA category list before you come here and talk crap.

Koreans, they have moved further with dual VVT. You still stuck with single VVT?

K3nnYkl82,
Just the arm? How bout the rest then? People look into overall. FYI, the old Saga '06 I had, can still find hidden MMC logo on part of the car body.

What is the big deal? Inspira is not Lancer, enough brag and get back to real life.
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man , since u so like to compare brochure, please go and read the website before u make such FUNNY and STUPID comment and let people laugh at u notworthy.gif notworthy.gif shakehead.gif
u think there is no rules and regulation ? u know nothing about track
the list all NA lancer/inspira, u got turbo in your engine bay, u are in different category. STUPID! shakehead.gif shakehead.gif
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post Jul 13 2013, 04:24 PM

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please read here
http://megalap.com/files/regs/MEGALAP_2013_TECH_REG.pdf
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post Jul 13 2013, 04:25 PM

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 13 2013, 04:12 PM)
nzh0920,
You took modified Inspira laptime vs NA Lancer? Look at your list, 1.6 Forte beats 2.0 Forte. What else, those are nothing more than unsorted category list. Is that the best lap time in the first place?

People talking about NA unmodified car vs category. You go and include turbocharged or tuned up variant together. Take NA category list before you come here and talk crap.

Koreans, they have moved further with dual VVT. You still stuck with single VVT?

K3nnYkl82,
Just the arm? How bout the rest then? People look into overall. FYI, the old Saga '06 I had, can still find hidden MMC logo on part of the car body.

What is the big deal? Inspira is not Lancer, enough brag and get back to real life.
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please show me the light, master of crap!

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post Jul 13 2013, 04:25 PM

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He dun even know 4B10 n 11, 12 comes with dual VVTI. propably dunno what it is
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post Jul 13 2013, 04:28 PM

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 13 2013, 04:12 PM)
nzh0920,
You took modified Inspira laptime vs NA Lancer? Look at your list, 1.6 Forte beats 2.0 Forte. What else, those are nothing more than unsorted category list. Is that the best lap time in the first place?

People talking about NA unmodified car vs category. You go and include turbocharged or tuned up variant together. Take NA category list before you come here and talk crap.

Koreans, they have moved further with dual VVT. You still stuck with single VVT?

K3nnYkl82,
Just the arm? How bout the rest then? People look into overall. FYI, the old Saga '06 I had, can still find hidden MMC logo on part of the car body.

What is the big deal? Inspira is not Lancer, enough brag and get back to real life.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_4B1_engine
please read here, craptor
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continuously variable MIVEC intake and exhaust valve timing


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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Jul 13 2013, 04:25 PM)
He dun even know 4B10 n 11, 12 comes with dual VVTI. propably dunno what it is
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it comes with dualcraptor
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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 13 2013, 04:12 PM)
nzh0920,
You took modified Inspira laptime vs NA Lancer? Look at your list, 1.6 Forte beats 2.0 Forte. What else, those are nothing more than unsorted category list. Is that the best lap time in the first place?

People talking about NA unmodified car vs category. You go and include turbocharged or tuned up variant together. Take NA category list before you come here and talk crap.

Koreans, they have moved further with dual VVT. You still stuck with single VVT?

K3nnYkl82,
Just the arm? How bout the rest then? People look into overall. FYI, the old Saga '06 I had, can still find hidden MMC logo on part of the car body.

What is the big deal? Inspira is not Lancer, enough brag and get back to real life.
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Wah now is like how?
Loser "fatt LAN Zha"?

LOL!!!! U damn power la really. Next time u can go another forum introduce yourself.

I am not only famous in AW, but also lowyat fnf!!! Hahahahahaa
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post Jul 13 2013, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(K3nnYkl82 @ Jul 13 2013, 04:16 PM)
Bugger the whole list is there ... YOU ARE THE ONE TALKING ABOUT THE ARM PREVIOUSLY..
Go search how many PW parts there yourself ...
i didnt says 100% mitsu parts .. but mechanical wise almost .. because manufacture cost to manufacure a metal part isnt cheap if u do not know already.

We own inspira but we dont crap like you.

Again i repeat .. lots of mitsu parts..
refer to the list .. 1234A567 is mitsu parts .. PW123456 is proton parts .

and i repeat again workmanship is not as good as mitsu

user posted image

Again .. mr jaycraptor .. we talk base on fact .. not like u .. whenever ppl prove u wrong .u go twist ..
and i already said .. inspira is tune more to comfort while lancer is towards sporty .. its nothing to do with the chassis like what you crap.
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Nice comparison. Wonder why Lancer can still sell if your Inspira is that close to Lancer technically. Just because of build workmanship, people willing to pay >RM20k extra to get Lancer 2.0EX/GT rather than lower grade Inspira 2.0 at RM93k? Like you for example, you can spend less than RM10k to get Lancer bumpers, badges, steering wheels, etc already.

Tell this to Lancer owners whether they agree with you. Verdict about Inspira, nothing more than a lower quality Lancer wannabe. You can only be called LANCAR but not Lancer. This is the only reason why Lancer still survive today rather than wrap up like what happened back then. Like Myvi owners trying to think themselves as driving Toyota. Inspira owners are like dreaming of driving Japanese C-segment.

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QUOTE(jayraptor @ Jul 13 2013, 04:32 PM)
Nice comparison. Wonder why Lancer can still sell if your Inspira is that close to Lancer technically. Just because of build workmanship, people willing to pay >RM20k extra to get Lancer 2.0EX/GT rather than lower grade Inspira 2.0 at RM93k? Like you for example, you can spend less than RM10k to get Lancer bumpers, badges, steering wheels, etc already.

Tell this to Lancer owners whether they agree with you.
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Eh
Juz now u crap differently one..
U says many localize part
Diff build quaility of the parts
Now turn your dirrextion lagi ah?

Mana ur localize part?
Mana ur lancer gl chassis claim?
Mana ur less parts in suspension systrm?

Lancer gt 125k
Inspira 86k 2.0E
Thats almost 40k
Yes I admit we cheapskate but the 40k doesnt worth thst to me..
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Jaycraptor previous very proud tell ppl localize part a lot. Base on his experience with wira 1.6z
Then he claim suspension less some part that very hard to describe
Further claim no emission control crap in USA
Then claim build parts are of diff quality and material

Now agree with me diff is towards workmanship or after sales service!
Further more says I plan to tipu ppl with so call mitsu parts.... Sorry im not a fair journalist
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Sorry, I do not read the whole thread.

Many parts of Inspira are shared with Lancer, even though different in part number.
Most of the parts, Proton simply mark up the price and end up much more expensive than Mitsubishi parts.

From what I know, the headlamp of Inspira are different than Lancer, hence the price different.

Price not same doesn't mean they are not the same.
For suspension parts, afaik only absorbers are made locally (also why it so affordable). Everything else is the same as Lancer, also much more expensive than Lancer (marked up price).

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