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post Feb 15 2015, 07:21 PM

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QUOTE(Yagami5159 @ Feb 15 2015, 05:08 PM)
Hey guys, I've made some research on my own and I made a list.
1. Samsung 840 EVO 120GB
2. Crucial M550 128GB
3. Intel 530 Series 120GB

For these three items above, which are the best? Or you guys have any other better options please let me know. smile.gif
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Scrap the first one off... The drive has a yet to be fixed read speed bug (even though a fix by Samsung is applied).... sweat.gif
Though my 840 EVOs have yet to see any slowdowns... sweat.gif

The Intel 530 would be my choice, or if you really have the cash to burn, the 840 PRO/850 EVO would be my choice. icon_idea.gif
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post Feb 15 2015, 08:03 PM

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QUOTE(chocobo7779 @ Feb 15 2015, 07:21 PM)
Scrap the first one off...  The drive has a yet to be fixed read speed bug (even though a fix by Samsung is applied).... sweat.gif
Though my 840 EVOs have yet to see any slowdowns... sweat.gif

The Intel 530 would be my choice, or if you really have the cash to burn, the 840 PRO/850 EVO would be my choice. icon_idea.gif
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Yeah, I've read about the issue on the 840 EVO as well, such a shame. I want to just grab the Intel 530 and just be done with it, but the SandForce controller they're using just made me stop and re-consider.
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post Feb 15 2015, 08:31 PM

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Got my 840 EVO a year ago. Got it installed and running around July. Got the latest drivers and all and am now running Magician 4.5. No issues so far for me. No noticeable drop in read speed. Should I really download the restoration fix?

Worried cuz I'm planning to get a second 840 EVO as games are seriously eating up all the space on my first one. Damn BF4 is 50GB alone. Zzzzz. Or should I get a 850 instead?

This post has been edited by Sentinel92: Feb 15 2015, 08:35 PM
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post Feb 15 2015, 08:46 PM

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QUOTE(Yagami5159 @ Feb 15 2015, 08:03 PM)
Yeah, I've read about the issue on the 840 EVO as well, such a shame. I want to just grab the Intel 530 and just be done with it, but the SandForce controller they're using just made me stop and re-consider.
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Sandforce controller, and the reason is becos of?
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post Feb 15 2015, 09:23 PM

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QUOTE(evangelion @ Feb 15 2015, 08:46 PM)
Sandforce controller, and the reason is becos of?
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I've read tons of complaints years ago, something about BSOD issues and other major flaws.
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post Feb 15 2015, 09:57 PM

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QUOTE(Yagami5159 @ Feb 15 2015, 09:23 PM)
I've read tons of complaints years ago, something about BSOD issues and other major flaws.
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I heard all has been fixed, can anyone confirm this.
I'm going to go for Intel as i view its a VERY mature product and i can bear the 1 second difference compare to newer faster drive.
Reliability is more important to me.
Then again can someone confirm the "BSOD" issue. I thought it has been fixed very long time ago hence the reliability & its maturity.
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post Feb 15 2015, 10:33 PM

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Hello guys, I'm new to SSD here.
I have been doing some research on it recently.
However,I can't seems to make my decision and do not know which one to get actually.
Can anyone kindly guide me and recommend me a good price/performance SSD? Preferably 250GB+-.
Thanks in advance.
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post Feb 15 2015, 11:55 PM

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I've bought the Samsung 850 EVO from Lazada, I can tell you now the hype is real.. sooo damn real.. rclxm9.gif

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post Feb 16 2015, 12:05 AM

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QUOTE(Yagami5159 @ Feb 14 2015, 11:49 PM)
I hope you're right, I wish you're right. I've just erase everything and did a fresh install, and the results is the same.

all hope is lost, in the hospital you go~

Now then, could you guys recommend me a good price/performance SSD please? smile.gif
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oh that's bad. can you share with us your usage? also, did you do op? how many % of the total space for op if you have done that? did you do other ssd optimizations? did you use ram disk or ram cache? i wonder why no one has expressed this short-life problem before. i am using 2x plextor m5pro xtreme for 2 years plus, 512gb, latest firmware, 15% op. no issues. i suspect system setup and usage contribute to the problem, but you will never know.

of your 3 choices, intel 530 is a good buy because of its longer warranty period. crucial m550 is newer.

about sandforce controller, yeah there were hiccups initially but with time most if not all of the bugs were remedied. those were non-intel drives usually. you should know that intel's implementations of sandforce controller were different from others, with many optimizations. so far we seldom hear anything bad about it.

to me crucial and plextor drives are reliable. they are not fast, but decent enough for my usage.

QUOTE(air_pull91 @ Feb 15 2015, 01:29 AM)
can anyone tell me how to do over provisioning on plextor SSD..
i owned samsung and its easy to do that..using samsung magician..
how about plextor?
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over provisioning is just setting an unallocated free space at the end of the ssd. you can use the disk management tool to do that. samsung recommends 10% with its magician software. this is subject to personal preference.

QUOTE(Sentinel92 @ Feb 15 2015, 08:31 PM)
Got my 840 EVO a year ago. Got it installed and running around July. Got the latest drivers and all and am now running Magician 4.5. No issues so far for me. No noticeable drop in read speed. Should I really download the restoration fix?

Worried cuz I'm planning to get a second 840 EVO as games are seriously eating up all the space on my first one. Damn BF4 is 50GB alone. Zzzzz. Or should I get a 850 instead?
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it's better to apply the fix (consider it as a firmware upgrade). i don't have any issues with it after the fix also.


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QUOTE(horns @ Feb 16 2015, 12:05 AM)
oh that's bad. can you share with us your usage? also, did you do op? how many % of the total space for op if you have done that? did you do other ssd optimizations? did you use ram disk or ram cache? i wonder why no one has expressed this short-life problem before. i am using 2x plextor m5pro xtreme for 2 years plus, 512gb, latest firmware, 15% op. no issues. i suspect system setup and usage contribute to the problem, but you will never know.

of your 3 choices, intel 530 is a good buy because of its longer warranty period. crucial m550 is newer.

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I did some basic optimization before using it 2 years ago, and I don't know what's "op", so that's a no. And as the matter of fact, I did use a licensed RamDisk, but I don't see why it'll affect the read speed.

By referring to Plextool, the drive only have about 4.14TB write/ 6.79TB read. :\

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QUOTE(Yagami5159 @ Feb 15 2015, 11:55 PM)
I've bought the Samsung 850 EVO from Lazada, I can tell you now the hype is real.. sooo damn real.. rclxm9.gif
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Tell us or better show us. Much better to learn from a person than a review website. Tell Tell Tell


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post Feb 16 2015, 04:01 AM

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QUOTE(slimfox @ Feb 16 2015, 02:13 AM)
Tell us or better show us. Much better to learn from a person than a review website. Tell Tell Tell
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A friend of mine told me about website and how he get some awesome deals, and at the same time he told me about the SSD on sale. Went there take a look myself, and found out RM50 discount voucher can be use if the purchase is more than RM150.

So without hesitation, I bought it, straight away. rclxm9.gif

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post Feb 16 2015, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(Yagami5159 @ Feb 16 2015, 12:20 AM)
I did some basic optimization before using it 2 years ago, and I don't know what's "op", so that's a no. And as the matter of fact, I did use a licensed RamDisk, but I don't see why it'll affect the read speed.

By referring to Plextool, the drive only have about 4.14TB write/ 6.79TB read. :\
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sorry i shouldn't refer your case as 'short-life', i should say 'speed-drop'. op is over provisioning, putting certain amount of unallocated free space at the end of your ssd. if you relocated your temp folders and web cache to it, this method saves a lot of writes to the ssd. yes it doesn't affect ssd's read speed.

based on this review (http://www.anandtech.com/print/6090/plextor-m5s-256gb-review), the gc part should be fine for m5s. by the way your ssd is actually still very healthy based on the total writes (if compared to tbw of 72tb). one last thing, did you swap sata port before? it looks like a sata 2 speed.
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QUOTE(horns @ Feb 16 2015, 10:57 AM)
sorry i shouldn't refer your case as 'short-life', i should say 'speed-drop'. op is over provisioning, putting certain amount of unallocated free space at the end of your ssd. if you relocated your temp folders and web cache to it, this method saves a lot of writes to the ssd. yes it doesn't affect ssd's read speed.

based on this review (http://www.anandtech.com/print/6090/plextor-m5s-256gb-review), the gc part should be fine for m5s. by the way your ssd is actually still very healthy based on the total writes (if compared to tbw of 72tb). one last thing, did you swap sata port before? it looks like a sata 2 speed.
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Nah, i din't swap any ports for months, but yeah I've just realized that it was running on 3.0GB/s, which I assumed it's SATA II speed.
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QUOTE(Yagami5159 @ Feb 16 2015, 12:22 PM)
Nah, i din't swap any ports for months, but yeah I've just realized that it was running on 3.0GB/s, which I assumed it's SATA II speed.
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yeah it's sata ii speed. one more thing to check is the sata cable.
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QUOTE(horns @ Feb 16 2015, 12:32 PM)
yeah it's sata ii speed. one more thing to check is the sata cable.
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I dont really think it's the cables problem hmm.gif
I din't change nor even touch the cables for so long, and it was running on 5xxMB/s all the time till this month.

But still, I'll look into it..
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QUOTE(Yagami5159 @ Feb 16 2015, 12:43 PM)
I dont really think it's the cables problem hmm.gif
I din't change nor even touch the cables for so long, and it was running on 5xxMB/s all the time till this month.

But still, I'll look into it..
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i think with that health your drive should be fine and can last for quite some times, with decent performance. (because in steady state, it should be slightly higher than 300MB/s) this is why i think something is wrong somewhere else.

the easier way to verify is to use another computer with different ports and cables.
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QUOTE(Yagami5159 @ Feb 16 2015, 12:43 PM)
I dont really think it's the cables problem hmm.gif
I din't change nor even touch the cables for so long, and it was running on 5xxMB/s all the time till this month.

But still, I'll look into it..
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do you made any bios update? or maybe you can check the sata setting in bios.. also you can try update to the latest chipset..

edit: have you try your new ssd with the same cable and port? hows the benchmark?

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