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Clumsy_JJ
post Dec 1 2014, 06:43 PM

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Icic, like tht is it better i go for Plextor or Intel to avoid the problem?

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post Dec 1 2014, 07:19 PM

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QUOTE(Clumsy_JJ @ Dec 1 2014, 06:43 PM)
Icic, like tht is it better i go for Plextor or Intel to avoid the problem?

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Most of the Samsung sifu had already reported the firmware does fix the issue, just know the firmware upon installing it, check if it's updated, if it's not then just flash update it, simple as that, it's even faster if you're flashing an empty SSD, then forward to installing whatever you want on it. wink.gif
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post Dec 1 2014, 07:50 PM

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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Dec 1 2014, 06:35 PM)
If you setup the workspace all into the SSD, then it should be fast, not sure if pagefile will affect the speed or not. hmm.gif
If you don't wish to re-install the OS, there's migrating tools to help you move from HDD to SSD. wink.gif
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tell me more about this sorcery migrating tools you talked about. hmm.gif
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post Dec 1 2014, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(charkoteow3 @ Dec 1 2014, 07:50 PM)
tell me more about this sorcery migrating tools you talked about.  hmm.gif
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those are SSD cloning softwares, you can find them by googling
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post Dec 1 2014, 10:10 PM

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QUOTE(marfccy @ Dec 1 2014, 09:20 PM)
those are SSD cloning softwares, you can find them by googling
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alright thank you smile.gif
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post Dec 1 2014, 10:26 PM

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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Dec 1 2014, 07:19 PM)
Most of the Samsung sifu had already reported the firmware does fix the issue, just know the firmware upon installing it, check if it's updated, if it's not then just flash update it, simple as that, it's even faster if you're flashing an empty SSD, then forward to installing whatever you want on it. wink.gif
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noted. thanks you.
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post Dec 1 2014, 11:59 PM

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QUOTE(terradrive @ Dec 1 2014, 04:18 PM)
Last time I always leave my PC on when I didn't use it for a while, now I just off lol! Can turn it on back very fast, so syok.
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QUOTE(Clumsy_JJ @ Dec 1 2014, 06:06 PM)
Thanks for ur comment. Then how about the bug fixed firmware update bug fixed for samsung? Is it i need to install the update if i use samsung ???

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yes the bug in samsung 840 evo was fixed. you can use samsung magician or crystal disk info to verify the firmware version. (the bugfix firmware version is EXT0CB60 for sata ssd and EXT42B6Q for msata ssd)

QUOTE(charkoteow3 @ Dec 1 2014, 06:11 PM)
idk if this is the right place to ask but here goes.

im planning to add an SSD into my workstation. (mainly for adobe illustrator and photoshop)
will there be bottleneck issues if I reinstall everything (my softwares) into the SSD but leaving the OS in my current  HDD?

too lazy to install the OS again.
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i think you should reconsider the option. putting the OS into ssd is important to take advantage of much faster boot-up. actually that's the whole point of having a ssd imo. you pay for boosting up everything in the system. this should include your OS hehe
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post Dec 2 2014, 01:57 AM

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QUOTE(horns @ Dec 1 2014, 11:59 PM)
i think you should reconsider the option. putting the OS into ssd is important to take advantage of much faster boot-up. actually that's the whole point of having a ssd imo. you pay for boosting up everything in the system. this should include your OS hehe
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how often do you reboot your pc? i can't remember the last time i turn this baby off.
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post Dec 2 2014, 06:51 AM

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QUOTE(charkoteow3 @ Dec 2 2014, 01:57 AM)
how often do you reboot your pc? i can't remember the last time i turn this baby off.
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Work PC, reboot? We shut down everyday to conserve electricity. sweat.gif
Not to talk about those high-end monster that choke water faster than we drink, save electricity, save the earth. tongue.gif

p/s: Server aside.. different story. blush.gif
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post Dec 2 2014, 08:57 AM

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QUOTE(charkoteow3 @ Dec 2 2014, 01:57 AM)
how often do you reboot your pc? i can't remember the last time i turn this baby off.
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quite often. many times. everyday hehe

QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Dec 2 2014, 06:51 AM)
Work PC, reboot? We shut down everyday to conserve electricity. sweat.gif
Not to talk about those high-end monster that choke water faster than we drink, save electricity, save the earth. tongue.gif

p/s: Server aside.. different story. blush.gif
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yes, it's a good practice. nowadays, nas takes over the role of file server. there is no need to run machines 24/7.
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post Dec 2 2014, 09:47 AM

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QUOTE(charkoteow3 @ Dec 1 2014, 07:50 PM)
tell me more about this sorcery migrating tools you talked about.  hmm.gif
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The Crucial MX100 that I bought comes with a key for limited function acronis true image 2014.

The cloning function ain't that good, have to choose manual mode to avoid program crash. Then because of the way my previous HDD was partition the acronis software partitioned my SSD too! My SSD was divided into 2 partitions and I can't change the setting inside the software to make it only one partition zzzz. Luckily Windows 7 allows me to delete the empty partition and extend my boot partition so my primary boot SSD becomes mearly 256GB back (the rest is windows system reserve).

After that, I can boot directly from my SSD as if nothing happened brows.gif
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post Dec 2 2014, 11:08 AM

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uh? maybe it's because they put the empty unallocated partition at the end of the drive for over provisioning purposes.

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post Dec 2 2014, 05:25 PM

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Just go LYP again (yeah, I kaki LYP, will visit there from time to time depend on mood, LEL).

Seems like Sri Computer's Crucial MX100 256GB is back with stock (may not be too much though).

But still I ended up settling for Transcend 370 due to being the cheapest 512GB around, sub RM700.

Hope I didn't made any wrong decision.

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post Dec 2 2014, 09:59 PM

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Also, is it just placebo/paranoid for me to here noise from my newly bought SSD?
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post Dec 2 2014, 10:21 PM

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QUOTE(Human10 @ Dec 2 2014, 05:25 PM)
Just go LYP again (yeah, I kaki LYP, will visit there from time to time depend on mood, LEL).

Seems like Sri Computer's Crucial MX100 256GB is back with stock (may not be too much though).

But still I ended up settling for Transcend 370 due to being the cheapest 512GB around, sub RM700.

Hope I didn't made any wrong decision.
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tbh the price of sub 700 is very attractive. i have read about this transcend drive from review sites. from reviews it is indeed a very affordable ssd, with damn good values. the one graph at thessdreview.com is particularly surprising imo.

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it is impressive. notice that the top two use the same Silicon Motion SM2246EN controller. several other drives, like Corsair Force LX and PNY Optima are using the same controller.

maybe later you can tell us how it fares?

edit: noise? what noise?

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post Dec 3 2014, 12:03 AM

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QUOTE(horns @ Dec 2 2014, 10:21 PM)
tbh the price of sub 700 is very attractive. i have read about this transcend drive from review sites. from reviews it is indeed a very affordable ssd, with damn good values. the one graph at thessdreview.com is particularly surprising imo.

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it is impressive. notice that the top two use the same Silicon Motion SM2246EN controller. several other drives, like Corsair Force LX and PNY Optima are using the same controller.

maybe later you can tell us how it fares?

edit: noise? what noise?
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Can't deliver much, as my PSU is sent for RMA, currently testing it on my SATA2 laptop. laugh.gif

Some high pitch vibrating noise. Googled around and they say SSD may offer suffer from coil whine or resonance too. sweat.gif

Also, even for budget SSD, the built is a little too flimsy and light with the plastic case...

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post Dec 3 2014, 12:54 AM

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QUOTE(Human10 @ Dec 3 2014, 12:03 AM)
Can't deliver much, as my PSU is sent for RMA, currently testing it on my SATA2 laptop. laugh.gif

Some high pitch vibrating noise. Googled around and they say SSD may offer suffer from coil whine or resonance too. sweat.gif

Also, even for budget SSD, the built is a little too flimsy and light with the plastic case...
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oh ok haha

i guess the high pitch noise doesn't affect the drive's performance. the plastic case, well, let's see if the temperature is good enough. for general use i guess it should be fine. normally manufacturers use metal case to serve as heat spreader. thermal pads are placed between chips and metal case for that purpose. (not all have pads, so i guess it's not really a big deal)

although the price is that of a value drive, it's tagged as premium by transcend. its endurance rating (tbw) is kind of crazy. (http://www.legitreviews.com/transcend-ssd370-128gb-sata-6gbs-ssd-review_150465/9)
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post Dec 3 2014, 12:56 AM

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QUOTE(horns @ Dec 3 2014, 12:54 AM)
oh ok haha

i guess the high pitch noise doesn't affect the drive's performance. the plastic case, well, let's see if the temperature is good enough. for general use i guess it should be fine. normally manufacturers use metal case to serve as heat spreader. thermal pads are placed between chips and metal case for that purpose. (not all have pads, so i guess it's not really a big deal)

although the price is that of a value drive, it's tagged as premium by transcend. its endurance rating (tbw) is kind of crazy. (http://www.legitreviews.com/transcend-ssd370-128gb-sata-6gbs-ssd-review_150465/9)
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1TB version have 1000+TB endurance shocking.gif

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post Dec 3 2014, 09:26 AM

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QUOTE(marfccy @ Dec 3 2014, 12:56 AM)
1TB version have 1000+TB endurance shocking.gif
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yes. the last time i checked they have no official tbw published. note that the scope of warranty is also based on the indicator of its software (ssd scope).

i think endurance is not an issue for ssd. what's left for us to learn is the performance of this drive, especially in real world usage.
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post Dec 3 2014, 01:08 PM

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Any SAS SSD out there with reasonable price? Looking to find a SSD for a company's server but the SSD price is one hell of a joke, yes it has good endurance (200GB @ 3.86PB) but it just don't justify the high price, I could buy a high-end PC with that price alone.

Is Enterprise SSD came out just so to earn more from "Enterprise"? sweat.gif

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