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post Nov 27 2014, 03:57 AM

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QUOTE(-kytz- @ Nov 27 2014, 02:48 AM)
Samsung 850 PRO is probably the best SSD in the market right now. That 10 years warranty is also no joke, just to show how confident Samsung is towards its reliability, durability and performance brows.gif

However you could still opt for cheaper models, like the Intel 530 240GB which is quite cheap at around RM400 ish.

As to whether you require 256GB or 512GB, I guess that depends on you yourself lol. For me I *think* 256GB should be enough for me but if you have tons and tons of programs and games, probably should go for 512GB straight laugh.gif
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Thanks for the reply.

If SAMSUNG 850 Pro is currently the best I think I will go for it.

Anyone know the market price for it? For both 256GB and 512GB?

I dont really have much to store. Just OS and one or two games.

Will 256GB be sufficient for me?

And also do recommend me a shop that sells the SSD and also help out with installation.
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post Nov 27 2014, 08:24 AM

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QUOTE(saru04 @ Nov 27 2014, 03:57 AM)
Thanks for the reply.

If SAMSUNG 850 Pro is currently the best I think I will go for it.

Anyone know the market price for it? For both 256GB and 512GB?

I dont really have much to store. Just OS and one or two games.

Will 256GB be sufficient for me?

And also do recommend me a shop that sells the SSD and also help out with installation.
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I think I can only find 1 seller with cheap price for Samsung, but the Pro is definitely high priced.
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256GB or 512GB will depends on your usage, if you're going to install many games at once, choose the bigger brother, otherwise 256GB should suffice for most current titles (i.e. COD:AW, Ryse of Rome, MMO, some other programs...)
And not to forget that SSD's Trim also depends on the space provisioning, 15% for optimum performance, so max you can use is around 210GB (256GB) and 420GB (512GB) respectively. wink.gif

This post has been edited by wildwestgoh: Nov 27 2014, 08:26 AM
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post Nov 27 2014, 12:08 PM

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I just bought new Intel 530 SSD (240gb).. my problem is the SSD boots fast but slow logging into Windows? (the time you type in your password) anyone know whats going on?
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post Nov 27 2014, 12:33 PM

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QUOTE(Aivihc @ Nov 27 2014, 12:08 PM)
I just bought new Intel 530 SSD (240gb).. my problem is the SSD boots fast but slow logging into Windows? (the time you type in your password) anyone know whats going on?
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Do you mind sharing more info about your machine? Which windows version? Is the 4k-alignment ok? Do you use rst or default windows ahci driver? Is there a new firmware for 530?

In general there is no waiting when you log in (actually almost instantly) I haven't had such issues before with intel drives.


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post Nov 27 2014, 01:52 PM

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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Nov 27 2014, 08:24 AM)
I think I can only find 1 seller with cheap price for Samsung, but the Pro is definitely high priced.
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256GB or 512GB will depends on your usage, if you're going to install many games at once, choose the bigger brother, otherwise 256GB should suffice for most current titles (i.e. COD:AW, Ryse of Rome, MMO, some other programs...)
And not to forget that SSD's Trim also depends on the space provisioning, 15% for optimum performance, so max you can use is around 210GB (256GB) and 420GB (512GB) respectively. wink.gif
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Okay. So far the things I plan to put into the SSD are:
1) My OS
2) Steam with Dota 2
3) Microsoft Office

Will 256GB be sufficient?
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post Nov 27 2014, 02:30 PM

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QUOTE(Aivihc @ Nov 27 2014, 12:08 PM)
I just bought new Intel 530 SSD (240gb).. my problem is the SSD boots fast but slow logging into Windows? (the time you type in your password) anyone know whats going on?
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1. Fresh install? Clone?
2. Have you installed any other running programs, try "msconfig" to check your startup.

QUOTE(saru04 @ Nov 27 2014, 01:52 PM)
Okay. So far the things I plan to put into the SSD are:
1) My OS
2) Steam with Dota 2
3) Microsoft Office

Will 256GB be sufficient?
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Ok, that was plenty of left over, you're fine with 256GB, can install 2 more latest title... brows.gif
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post Nov 28 2014, 01:44 PM

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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Nov 27 2014, 02:30 PM)
1. Fresh install? Clone?
2. Have you installed any other running programs, try "msconfig" to check your startup.
Ok, that was plenty of left over, you're fine with 256GB, can install 2 more latest title... brows.gif
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Lol. Okay. Then I shall go for 256GB.

When they replaced my HDD out, can I convert it to external hard disk use it for storage?
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post Nov 28 2014, 04:28 PM

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QUOTE(saru04 @ Nov 28 2014, 01:44 PM)
Lol. Okay. Then I shall go for 256GB.

When they replaced my HDD out, can I convert it to external hard disk use it for storage?
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If your laptop has disc drive, you can convert it to put your hard disk in, dual storage. thumbup.gif
But if no, you can just buy USB3 SATA (not sure if hard to find one hmm.gif ) to plug it in as external.
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post Nov 28 2014, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Nov 28 2014, 04:28 PM)
If your laptop has disc drive, you can convert it to put your hard disk in, dual storage. thumbup.gif
But if no, you can just buy USB3 SATA (not sure if hard to find one hmm.gif ) to plug it in as external.
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Disc drive is where you read CDs?
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post Nov 28 2014, 08:27 PM

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QUOTE(horns @ Nov 27 2014, 12:33 PM)
Do you mind sharing more info about your machine? Which windows version? Is the 4k-alignment ok?  Do you use rst or default windows ahci driver? Is there a new firmware for 530?

In general there is no waiting when you log in (actually almost instantly) I haven't had such issues before with intel drives.
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i5-3570
Asus P8Z77-M
12GB DDR3
Nvidia GTX 650

Default windows AHCI (i dont see any much diff using intel), no new firmware

4k alignment? what is that? sorry still new to ssd tech
some of my result
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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Nov 27 2014, 02:30 PM)
1. Fresh install? Clone?
2. Have you installed any other running programs, try "msconfig" to check your startup.

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1. Yup fresh install
2. user posted image


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post Nov 28 2014, 08:36 PM

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QUOTE(Aivihc @ Nov 27 2014, 12:08 PM)
I just bought new Intel 530 SSD (240gb).. my problem is the SSD boots fast but slow logging into Windows? (the time you type in your password) anyone know whats going on?
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same here, but the 'slow logging' doesnt affect me much

since when i reach to my desktop, all apps just load instantly for me to bother with that hmm.gif
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post Nov 28 2014, 10:00 PM

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QUOTE(Aivihc @ Nov 28 2014, 08:27 PM)
i5-3570
Asus P8Z77-M
12GB DDR3
Nvidia GTX 650

Default windows AHCI (i dont see any much diff using intel), no new firmware

4k alignment? what is that? sorry still new to ssd tech
some of my result
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yes windows ahci is ok. the thing about rst is that the performance is different from one version to another. for 4k alignment, you can run 'as ssd benchmark' to check if the alignment is stated as OK or not.

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QUOTE(marfccy @ Nov 28 2014, 08:36 PM)
same here, but the 'slow logging' doesnt affect me much

since when i reach to my desktop, all apps just load instantly for me to bother with that hmm.gif
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uh? you are having the same problem too? are you using w7?

i wonder why no one reported about this issue before.

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post Nov 28 2014, 11:46 PM

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QUOTE(horns @ Nov 28 2014, 10:00 PM)
uh? you are having the same problem too? are you using w7?

i wonder why no one reported about this issue before.
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Windows 8.1 here

didnt report it since it doesnt bother me that much (or maybe i dont shut down often to notice laugh.gif)

assuming my issue is similar like above, where reach login page fast but after typing password/pin, its takes several seconds to head into desktop

mine takes abt 2-3 spins (Windows 8 circle spinning thingy)

not that troublesome really
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post Nov 29 2014, 12:58 AM

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BTW, just to share here.

I think cheapest 256GB local Crucial MX100 is definitely from Sri Computer, at RM399.
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post Nov 29 2014, 05:00 AM

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QUOTE(Human10 @ Nov 29 2014, 12:58 AM)
BTW, just to share here.

I think cheapest 256GB local Crucial MX100 is definitely from Sri Computer, at RM399.
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did you manage to find out the pricing for 512GB? smile.gif
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post Nov 29 2014, 07:34 AM

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QUOTE(marfccy @ Nov 29 2014, 05:00 AM)
did you manage to find out the pricing for 512GB? smile.gif
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Not particularly impressive.

Double of it, RM799.

And b4 you people go there and buy, it is currently out of stock (for 256GB, 512 available, 128 no idea), restock in Dec they say...
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post Nov 29 2014, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(marfccy @ Nov 28 2014, 11:46 PM)
Windows 8.1 here

didnt report it since it doesnt bother me that much (or maybe i dont shut down often to notice laugh.gif)

assuming my issue is similar like above, where reach login page fast but after typing password/pin, its takes several seconds to head into desktop

mine takes abt 2-3 spins (Windows 8 circle spinning thingy)

not that troublesome really
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oh. from what i have read, there was a firmware released to solve this previously. still, there are some people who reported that the firmware didn't solve the issue.

what if you disable login page? (using netplwiz)

with ssd optimizations, the initial fast boot thing is usually disabled. in my case it takes 2-3 spins for w8.x to reach desktop too.

QUOTE(Human10 @ Nov 29 2014, 12:58 AM)
BTW, just to share here.

I think cheapest 256GB local Crucial MX100 is definitely from Sri Computer, at RM399.
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QUOTE(Human10 @ Nov 29 2014, 07:34 AM)
Not particularly impressive.

Double of it, RM799.

And b4 you people go there and buy, it is currently out of stock (for 256GB, 512 available, 128 no idea), restock in Dec they say...
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i think it's a good price for 512gb. for mx100, it's better to go for 512gb.

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post Nov 29 2014, 11:05 AM

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QUOTE(horns @ Nov 29 2014, 10:51 AM)
oh. from what i have read, there was a firmware released to solve this previously. still, there are some people who reported that the firmware didn't solve the issue.

what if you disable login page? (using netplwiz)

with ssd optimizations, the initial fast boot thing is usually disabled. in my case it takes 2-3 spins for w8.x to reach desktop too.
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im on latest firmware afaik, need to check Intel SSD Toolbox later

nah i need my PC to be password protected ph34r.gif

2-3 spin isnt long anyway
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post Nov 29 2014, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(marfccy @ Nov 29 2014, 11:05 AM)
im on latest firmware afaik, need to check Intel SSD Toolbox later

nah i need my PC to be password protected ph34r.gif

2-3 spin isnt long anyway
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oh ok smile.gif haha it's just a test to see if you can go into the desktop instantly (by instantly, i mean there is still a 1-second black screen in my machine)

you're right. i am dealing with that 2-3 spins every time i restart my machines. it's more than fine to me lol!
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QUOTE(horns @ Nov 29 2014, 12:17 PM)
oh ok smile.gif haha it's just a test to see if you can go into the desktop instantly (by instantly, i mean there is still a 1-second black screen in my machine)

you're right. i am dealing with that 2-3 spins every time i restart my machines. it's more than fine to me lol!
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feels sad man, SSD life already down so much cry.gif
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