Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

Bump Topic Topic Closed RSS Feed
128 Pages « < 58 59 60 61 62 > » Bottom

Outline · [ Standard ] · Linear+

 The SSD Thread V4, Solid State Drive

views
     
-oc-gassa
post May 5 2014, 12:30 AM

Enthusiast
*****
Senior Member
967 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: setapak
as previously stated.. for msata I prefer buy online.. since this is small part inside the desktop/laptop itself.. unless im buying Casing or monitor, for sure will physical inspect so that i will not miss out any unwanted issue later..as for ram,hdd,cpu..they all look the same to me..hehe
horns
post May 5 2014, 10:23 AM

\m/
*******
Senior Member
3,038 posts

Joined: Nov 2009
hehe sorry for using your message to highlight something else.




adrian87
post May 8 2014, 10:53 PM

New Member
*
Junior Member
49 posts

Joined: Jun 2010
adrian87 | samsung 840 evo | 128GB
Saphira4597
post May 9 2014, 07:09 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
388 posts

Joined: Nov 2007
Hi guys, does anyone have any experience with the Sandisk Extreme II 120GB SSD? Is it good + reliable? Thinking of getting one, also IIRC it is faster than the Samsung 840 Evo (someone please correct me if I'm wrong)
cstkl1
post May 9 2014, 07:19 PM

Look at all my stars!!
Group Icon
Elite
6,799 posts

Joined: Jan 2003

QUOTE(Saphira4597 @ May 9 2014, 07:09 PM)
Hi guys, does anyone have any experience with the Sandisk Extreme II 120GB SSD? Is it good + reliable? Thinking of getting one, also IIRC it is faster than the Samsung 840 Evo (someone please correct me if I'm wrong)
*
Its the best SSD out there dude overall.

Close to enterprise grade on consistency.
Uses the same controller as neutron gtx.


Saphira4597
post May 9 2014, 07:35 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
388 posts

Joined: Nov 2007
QUOTE(cstkl1 @ May 9 2014, 07:19 PM)
Its the best SSD out there dude overall.

Close to enterprise grade on consistency.
Uses the same controller as neutron gtx.
*
You mean the Extreme II right? gonna get that one then rclxms.gif thanks
cstkl1
post May 9 2014, 07:38 PM

Look at all my stars!!
Group Icon
Elite
6,799 posts

Joined: Jan 2003

QUOTE(Saphira4597 @ May 9 2014, 07:35 PM)
You mean the Extreme II right? gonna get that one then  rclxms.gif thanks
*
Eh but remember price
120gb sandisk u can buy 250gb evo.
horns
post May 9 2014, 09:52 PM

\m/
*******
Senior Member
3,038 posts

Joined: Nov 2009
QUOTE(cstkl1 @ May 9 2014, 07:19 PM)
Its the best SSD out there dude overall.

Close to enterprise grade on consistency.
Uses the same controller as neutron gtx.
*
no, sandisk extreme ii uses marvell controller, same as crucial m500. the one in neutron gtx is lamd.
cstkl1
post May 9 2014, 11:25 PM

Look at all my stars!!
Group Icon
Elite
6,799 posts

Joined: Jan 2003

QUOTE(horns @ May 9 2014, 09:52 PM)
no, sandisk extreme ii uses marvell controller, same as crucial m500. the one in neutron gtx is lamd.
*
crap always thought they were using that. Misread the review. Mistook it for the seagate.
the sandisk extreme ii was the next target after my neutrons although a bit keen to get back to intel 720.

my x25ms lol been performing so consistent for years already.

This post has been edited by cstkl1: May 9 2014, 11:26 PM
Saphira4597
post May 9 2014, 11:28 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
388 posts

Joined: Nov 2007
QUOTE(cstkl1 @ May 9 2014, 07:38 PM)
Eh but remember price
120gb sandisk u can buy 250gb evo.
*
Samsung 840 Evo
120GB: RM290
250GB: RM510

Sandisk Extreme II
120GB: RM 460

hmm.gif ya true lah.. think I go research more first lol, I'm more concerned about stability/can tahan how long because I intend to buy and use for very long so might as well pay some more $$ for something that has higher durability nod.gif

edit:

QUOTE(horns @ May 9 2014, 09:52 PM)
no, sandisk extreme ii uses marvell controller, same as crucial m500. the one in neutron gtx is lamd.
*
also if you don't mind, can you briefly explain the difference between marvell controller and lamd to me? Thanks smile.gif


This post has been edited by Saphira4597: May 9 2014, 11:29 PM
horns
post May 10 2014, 09:47 AM

\m/
*******
Senior Member
3,038 posts

Joined: Nov 2009
QUOTE(cstkl1 @ May 9 2014, 11:25 PM)
crap always thought they were using that. Misread the review. Mistook it for the seagate.
the sandisk extreme ii was the next target after my neutrons although a bit keen to get back to intel 720.

my x25ms lol been performing so consistent for years already.
*
yeah the lamd controller is probably the best controller we can have in consumer ssd's to provide much better consistency (because it's developed by a company that mainly focus on enterprise market). however consistency alone is not the only factor that dictates everything imo.

also seagate's implementation is somewhat different from the one in neutron gtx. (seagate push for more performance than consistency, while corsair focus on the strength of lamd controller, consistency)

QUOTE(Saphira4597 @ May 9 2014, 11:28 PM)
Samsung 840 Evo
120GB: RM290
250GB: RM510

Sandisk Extreme II
120GB: RM 460

hmm.gif ya true lah.. think I go research more first lol, I'm more concerned about stability/can tahan how long because I intend to buy and use for very long so might as well pay some more $$ for something that has higher durability  nod.gif

edit:
also if you don't mind, can you briefly explain the difference between marvell controller and lamd to me? Thanks smile.gif
*
sorry but i am really not an expert in these controllers. to me i can only see the differences in features and outcomes, which vary because of different implementations by manufacturers, that might change in time due to firmware updates. to me the obvious differences between the two are adoption rate and focus:
1. marvell controller is a proven stable one due to much higher adoptions by manufacturers, while lamd is a bit dated with less adoption. (which doesn't mean it's not good)
2. due to its enterprise origin, lamd is more focused on data read/write consistency. this also means less features. (which might be meaningless to you depending on how you use the drive)

as for the speed, any decent ssd have great speed if you connect it to the right sata port. since your concerns are more about stability and endurance of a drive, you can narrow down to those with mlc chip, larger capacity, and longer warranty. the tbw (terabytes written) allowed for consumer ssd is kind of a standard these days, i.e. 72tb within the 3-year warranty period.

edit: here's one of the references that can give you an idea on endurance, http://techreport.com/review/26058/the-ssd...ion-after-600tb

This post has been edited by horns: May 10 2014, 09:55 AM
Saphira4597
post May 10 2014, 11:24 AM

Casual
***
Junior Member
388 posts

Joined: Nov 2007
QUOTE(horns @ May 10 2014, 09:47 AM)
yeah the lamd controller is probably the best controller we can have in consumer ssd's to provide much better consistency (because it's developed by a company that mainly focus on enterprise market). however consistency alone is not the only factor that dictates everything imo.

also seagate's implementation is somewhat different from the one in neutron gtx. (seagate push for more performance than consistency, while corsair focus on the strength of lamd controller, consistency)
sorry but i am really not an expert in these controllers. to me i can only see the differences in features and outcomes, which vary because of different implementations by manufacturers, that might change in time due to firmware updates. to me the obvious differences between the two are adoption rate and focus:
1. marvell controller is a proven stable one due to much higher adoptions by manufacturers, while lamd is a bit dated with less adoption. (which doesn't mean it's not good)
2. due to its enterprise origin, lamd is more focused on data read/write consistency. this also means less features. (which might be meaningless to you depending on how you use the drive)

as for the speed, any decent ssd have great speed if you connect it to the right sata port. since your concerns are more about stability and endurance of a drive, you can narrow down to those with mlc chip, larger capacity, and longer warranty. the tbw (terabytes written) allowed for consumer ssd is kind of a standard these days, i.e. 72tb within the 3-year warranty period.

edit: here's one of the references that can give you an idea on endurance, http://techreport.com/review/26058/the-ssd...ion-after-600tb
*
Ah ok thanks for all the info notworthy.gif narrowing down my choices to the 120GB Samsung Evo 840 and the 120GB Sandisk Extreme II, however looking at the ratings on http://ssd.userbenchmark.com/ for the Sandisk Extreme II, it seems to fare really poorly.. whereas the Evo 840 seems to offer much better value hmm.gif

edit: no budget to get 240gb for extreme II sadly sad.gif

This post has been edited by Saphira4597: May 10 2014, 11:24 AM
horns
post May 10 2014, 12:10 PM

\m/
*******
Senior Member
3,038 posts

Joined: Nov 2009
QUOTE(Saphira4597 @ May 10 2014, 11:24 AM)
Ah ok thanks for all the info notworthy.gif narrowing down my choices to the 120GB Samsung Evo 840 and the 120GB Sandisk Extreme II, however looking at the ratings on http://ssd.userbenchmark.com/ for the Sandisk Extreme II, it seems to fare really poorly.. whereas the Evo 840 seems to offer much better value  hmm.gif

edit: no budget to get 240gb for extreme II sadly sad.gif
*
i know budget is always the constraint, but i really suggest you take up 240gb or more. since you intend to use it for 'very long time', it's better imo to invest a little bit more. there is nothing wrong about 120gb drives, except for the fact that you tend to get lower ends of everything with that capacity. if i referred to your reference, 240gb extreme ii is actually not bad.

furthermore, if it's just an OS-only drive, 120gb is fine. if you put apps/games in it too, that limited capacity will be a problem later on.

edit: i forgot to mention that the price difference between the drives are because sandisk extreme ii is for enthusiasts and it has 5-year warranty with 80tbw. samsung evo on the other hand is for mainstream and has a 3-year warranty.

This post has been edited by horns: May 10 2014, 12:28 PM
Saphira4597
post May 10 2014, 03:08 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
388 posts

Joined: Nov 2007
QUOTE(horns @ May 10 2014, 12:10 PM)
i know budget is always the constraint, but i really suggest you take up 240gb or more. since you intend to use it for 'very long time', it's better imo to invest a little bit more. there is nothing wrong about 120gb drives, except for the fact that you tend to get lower ends of everything with that capacity. if i referred to your reference, 240gb extreme ii is actually not bad.

furthermore, if it's just an OS-only drive, 120gb is fine. if you put apps/games in it too, that limited capacity will be a problem later on.

edit: i forgot to mention that the price difference between the drives are because sandisk extreme ii is for enthusiasts and it has 5-year warranty with 80tbw. samsung evo on the other hand is for mainstream and has a 3-year warranty.
*
4xx vs 7xx is a very big difference though.. also planning to get a 750GB/1TB WD black HDD for my (going-to-purchase-soon) laptop :/

Yeah I know Samsung Evo is catered towards the mainstream side.. thinking if will it be more cost worthy to get a 120gb first then only upgrade to a 240 in the future when the price drops. The only issue now is with $$ constrain.
horns
post May 10 2014, 04:14 PM

\m/
*******
Senior Member
3,038 posts

Joined: Nov 2009
QUOTE(Saphira4597 @ May 10 2014, 03:08 PM)
4xx vs 7xx is a very big difference though.. also planning to get a 750GB/1TB WD black HDD for my (going-to-purchase-soon) laptop :/

Yeah I know Samsung Evo is catered towards the mainstream side.. thinking if will it be more cost worthy to get a 120gb first then only upgrade to a 240 in the future when the price drops. The only issue now is with $$ constrain.
*
ok got it. hehe financial constraints is always the hardest part biggrin.gif
wildwestgoh
post May 11 2014, 07:44 AM

Look at all my stars!!
*******
Senior Member
2,215 posts

Joined: Jul 2005


QUOTE(Saphira4597 @ May 10 2014, 03:08 PM)
4xx vs 7xx is a very big difference though.. also planning to get a 750GB/1TB WD black HDD for my (going-to-purchase-soon) laptop :/

Yeah I know Samsung Evo is catered towards the mainstream side.. thinking if will it be more cost worthy to get a 120gb first then only upgrade to a 240 in the future when the price drops. The only issue now is with $$ constrain.
*
Just get what you can afford right now, SSD price dropping like *ahem*Boleh*ahem*-land*ahem* market share so expect SSD price to shred half in 2~3 years time, so by that time your SSD warranty expired, you can actually takes up double the size at similar price.
This is all of course, the NAND chips do not suddenly goes extinct and the price surge like hell. shakehead.gif
Saphira4597
post May 11 2014, 12:45 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
388 posts

Joined: Nov 2007
QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ May 11 2014, 07:44 AM)
Just get what you can afford right now, SSD price dropping like *ahem*Boleh*ahem*-land*ahem* market share so expect SSD price to shred half in 2~3 years time, so by that time your SSD warranty expired, you can actually takes up double the size at similar price.
This is all of course, the NAND chips do not suddenly goes extinct and the price surge like hell. shakehead.gif
*
Ya thinking of that, guess I'll go with the evo 840 first smile.gif brows.gif
slickz
post May 12 2014, 02:25 PM

Exalted Senior Elite Member
*******
Senior Member
2,149 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: Behind you! Look!



Reverting back. The pricelist for viewnet apparently had a typo. It was mentioned that it was the Plextor M5M, but to my pleasant surprise they had they actually have the updated version, Plextor M6M.

Manufacture date march 2014 and was showcased in CeBIT 2014. Rated IOPS for 540MB/s. Real world test on my hp spectre XT made my jaw drop as startup speed reduced from 19 seconds to 5 seconds!

All in all, worth the price.
nxfx
post May 12 2014, 04:36 PM

Enthusiast
*****
Senior Member
979 posts

Joined: Jan 2003


Harddisk just died sad.gif
Recommend me best bang for the buck SSD. Budget is around RM 300

Thanks.
-oc-gassa
post May 12 2014, 08:30 PM

Enthusiast
*****
Senior Member
967 posts

Joined: Jan 2003
From: setapak
samsung evo?

128 Pages « < 58 59 60 61 62 > » Top
Topic ClosedOptions
 

Change to:
| Lo-Fi Version
0.0385sec    0.76    6 queries    GZIP Disabled
Time is now: 21st December 2025 - 01:29 AM