QUOTE(AppreciativeMan @ Jul 10 2013, 11:31 PM)
yeah, i felt that too when i read what you've said finally you realize it.
V11 - Property Prices Discussion, Intelligent debates only pls
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Jul 10 2013, 11:34 PM
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Jul 10 2013, 11:36 PM
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QUOTE(kidmad @ Jul 10 2013, 11:28 PM) Well i have another side of the story of my life as well. I pretty much don't spend on clubbing, cigarettes, liquor or any other social activity or crap which doesnt benefit me.. I dont buy expensive cloths and in fact my baju in my wardrobe are nearlly all bought by my girlfriend. Yes some working shirt i have is as old as 2 years or more.. My working pants as well i can't recall when was the last time i bought it. None of the clothing which I'm wearing were bought without sales. give me 5 man !! we have similar life...the only diff is i staying with parent, I dont have 50k The only thing i spend is on food and gadgets. The rest all went to savings, insurance, and some funds.. I'm pretty sure everyone can do it, it's whether they want or not... My 1st job is only about RM2.7k nett monthly and i still recall how sucky it was renting only a room at that time. Staying with strangers. that day i just told my colleague who dont like cigar & liqour "we are not man among the man"... he answer "I dont care as long as I can live longer" gadget ? i dont change my phone as long as it is still can function...among the luxurious things i only like watch...and i like travelling.. This post has been edited by blowwater101: Jul 10 2013, 11:37 PM |
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Jul 10 2013, 11:36 PM
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QUOTE(hondaracer @ Jul 10 2013, 08:37 PM) 🎁🎁🎁🎉🎉🎉 Clever. From Star today KUALA LUMPUR: A total of 100,000 houses will be built under the 1Malaysia Civil Servants' Housing Programme (PPA1M) nationwide, said Chief Secretary to the Government Tan Sri Dr Ali Hamsa. He said besides Putrajaya, the Government would identify strategic locations in the capital and major centres, including in Sabah and Sarawak, to expand the programme. "The project will be implemented once it is approved by relevant authorities," he told reporters after opening the Parent Teacher Association Carnival and new facilities at Sekolah Menengah Kebangsaan (SMK) Damansara Utama here Sunday. He was commenting on a call from Cuepacs to the federal and state governments to provide medium-cost houses, priced RM250,000 or below, for civil servants. Ali said the first phase of the PPA1M programme involving the construction of 10,366 houses was launched in Putrajaya by Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Tun Razak in April. The PPA1M provides public housing with a minimum floor area of between 1,000 and 1,500 sq ft at a price of between RM150,000 and RM300,000. Meanwhile, Ali said the Putrajaya PPA1M had received an encouraging response with 105,000 applications received to date. Successful buyers are only required to pay for the houses once they are completed and not while work is still in progress. - Bernama PR1MA, SPNB, BNM new regulations. PPA1M. What's more? I believe there are more to come. Ministry of Housing is yet to announce drastic move and the climax may be from the Finance Ministry. They will be lots of offer for property below 400k in this 5 years. The market has decent options. With tighten credit regulations, yes the are still rich uncle pakcik anney grandfather and so on, can the high price sustain? Please don't tell me Japan Uk Aussie investor, if they were really huge, the KLCC or Mont Kiara won't be as what it is today. I believe it will be a very huge correction. |
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Jul 10 2013, 11:37 PM
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A good article:
http://www.malaysia-chronicle.com/index.ph...2#axzz2Yeo50G2I QUOTE Hence, such risk is real and is already happening. Credit squeeze means there will be lack of funds available to individuals and companies and hence liquidity. Since liquidity is the lifeline of both the housing and stock market, a lack of it will definitely have profound effects on them. Lacked of liquidity will cause seizing up of transactions because of the negative expectations on the economy will make people and businesses lee willing to spend, which eventually will drive prices down. Even before the implementation of the credit squeeze the housing market has already shown signs of weakness. Read more: http://www.malaysia-chronicle.com/index.ph...2#ixzz2Yep7tLfo Follow us: @MsiaChronicle on Twitter QUOTE Housing prices in Tier-1 cities in Malaysia namely Kuala Lumpur, Penang and Johor Bahru has seen an unprecedented rise due to the easy availability of credit that resulted in a speculative frenzy. Any investment that is buoyed by easy credit especially housing and the stock market will eventually end up in a bubble. Despite numerous denials by our authorities the housing market in Malaysia has long been in a bubble. Read more: http://www.malaysia-chronicle.com/index.ph...2#ixzz2YeozELJY Follow us: @MsiaChronicle on Twitter Each day the signs are getting nearer. Prepare for a burst guys! |
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Jul 10 2013, 11:40 PM
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Jul 10 2013, 11:41 PM
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QUOTE(blowwater101 @ Jul 10 2013, 11:36 PM) give me 5 man !! we have similar life...the only diff is i staying with parent, I dont have 50k that day i just told my colleague who dont like cigar & liqour "we are not man among the man"... he answer "I dont care as long as I can live longer" gadget ? i dont change my phone as long as it is still can function...among the luxurious things i only like watch... cigar not sure but liqour is really too damn expensive.. besides of company occasion where ppl treating a pine or two i don't think I've ever drank even for a can of beer. lol By this moment most likely i'm a property agent as well la.. as according to some bloke's guideline to identify a property agent in this section of the forum. |
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Jul 10 2013, 11:45 PM
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QUOTE(hazairi @ Jul 10 2013, 11:37 PM) A good article: hazairi was that your own blog???http://www.malaysia-chronicle.com/index.ph...2#axzz2Yeo50G2I Each day the signs are getting nearer. Prepare for a burst guys! |
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Jul 10 2013, 11:45 PM
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QUOTE(agentdiary @ Jul 10 2013, 08:18 PM) U have misunderstood between pricing on normal goods and leverage assets. The later is complex and depend largely on the messy of rate and servicing it. That is why debts level and econ performance matter. I wasnt talking about economic factor intereset rate pricing on normal goods bla bla bla, i was talking about the psychology of Malaysians purchasing behaviour. If it is a necessity you have to buy even when the true value of what you purchase is actually less than what you paid for. This is true for cars in malaysia and not properties. At least the properties that i still have my eyes on in KL.And for me it make sense to forgo the car and bought two properties and i am not even an investor of property, just more economic logic for me to do that. Somebody highlighted about buying cars for 9 years and stuff. If i did that then according to BNM rules like somebody said here, my second housing loan wouldnt have been approved. |
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Jul 10 2013, 11:46 PM
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Jul 10 2013, 11:46 PM
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Jul 10 2013, 11:48 PM
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QUOTE(kidmad @ Jul 10 2013, 11:33 PM) Dern unlike you. I don't shoot empty weasels and i only speak on behalf of my own experience and not others. I don't speculate and call others an agent when i do not have the prove. I don't assume ppl are working so hard every month to meet months end. I don't type in an open forum saying that everyone is rushing to sell their property especially when myself is finding so hard for a decent price one. I don't predict the future as i can't be sure myself as well. kid, obviously we are not the same. so, that's the only "unlike" part which i agree.The only thing which I've done right so far is took control of my own life and at times i do wish to share with ppl with negative thoughts about the world that they too could have done the right thing. And again.. was it a sin to own a property? or was it a sin to spread rumours in an open forum for all these years? Say whatever you want but what's happening out there right now was not even close to what you've been saying all these years. because the UUU people provide weasels then only it is being shot at. i do call others agents, i also implies others as "people with vested interests". im not sure if you dont do the sentences that ive bolded, but im also not sure if I did those. kid, dont be so naive. as what the other person says(and im guessing he feels that way, that's why he accuse me of saying that by saying what im saying people can quickly do panic selling |
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Jul 10 2013, 11:49 PM
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QUOTE(kidmad @ Jul 10 2013, 11:46 PM) Anyway it seems like your the only one alive up to that on the opposite camp. You seriously have not bought yourself an apartment yet and still continue to wait? like i said previously.My strategy currently is to keep rental as low as possible and keep cash as high as I can. When the property bursts i might need the cash for high deposit payment as when the time comes, definitely it's goin to be hard to take a loan to buy those cheap properties |
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Jul 10 2013, 11:49 PM
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QUOTE(kidmad @ Jul 10 2013, 11:41 PM) cigar not sure but liqour is really too damn expensive.. besides of company occasion where ppl treating a pine or two i don't think I've ever drank even for a can of beer. lol By this moment most likely i'm a property agent as well la.. as according to some bloke's guideline to identify a property agent in this section of the forum. get a good watch bro...RM5-6k entry level luxury watch...u can wear padini but a good watch will make u look outstanding...and a good watch can last vr long...value of money.. |
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Jul 10 2013, 11:53 PM
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QUOTE(hazairi @ Jul 10 2013, 11:37 PM) A good article: The signs however only appear to those who humbly rationally think. Still there are lots in denial phase. Hope our new KDN minister would be able to control the incoming crimes.http://www.malaysia-chronicle.com/index.ph...2#axzz2Yeo50G2I Each day the signs are getting nearer. Prepare for a burst guys! |
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QUOTE(hazairi @ Jul 10 2013, 11:49 PM) like i said previously. Hazairi, one of your articles stated: Either the bubble will burst another 1-2 years, or another 5 years.My strategy currently is to keep rental as low as possible and keep cash as high as I can. When the property bursts i might need the cash for high deposit payment as when the time comes, definitely it's goin to be hard to take a loan to buy those cheap properties 2 years and 5 years are quite a gap though. But I can't afford a home yet, so, yeah, I have to wait... This post has been edited by debbieyss: Jul 11 2013, 12:08 AM |
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Jul 11 2013, 12:10 AM
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QUOTE(Dern @ Jul 10 2013, 11:48 PM) kid, obviously we are not the same. so, that's the only "unlike" part which i agree. Dern why should i even answer any of your question when you can't even form a constructive sentence to debate and talk about? Again the day when you stop speculating about others well being that's the day i would stop ignoring most of your post. They are just the same like you. by calling me a kid and naive do that made you felt superior? The only thing we have here to talk about is property and nothing personal. Not about whether ppl could meet months end or not. Does it even matter in a property forum? because the UUU people provide weasels then only it is being shot at. i do call others agents, i also implies others as "people with vested interests". im not sure if you dont do the sentences that ive bolded, but im also not sure if I did those. kid, dont be so naive. as what the other person says(and im guessing he feels that way, that's why he accuse me of saying that by saying what im saying people can quickly do panic selling If the property sector really do collapse i would rather talk about the opportunity to roll what i have in hand and expand what i have. Afterall i started with nothing i don't mind losing everything. QUOTE(hazairi @ Jul 10 2013, 11:49 PM) like i said previously. Well i actually do calculated renting for the next 30 years with a little of investment + not in debt.. driving a cheap proton saga and continue renting at RM1k... But no matter how i calculated I still cant reach the financial freedom i wanted to. I took into consideration my current situation and took the worst case scenario which if my salary is not growing.My strategy currently is to keep rental as low as possible and keep cash as high as I can. When the property bursts i might need the cash for high deposit payment as when the time comes, definitely it's goin to be hard to take a loan to buy those cheap properties The approx left over per annum after deducting rental + makan makan + every other expenses.. Would be approx RM30k only well maybe with proton saga it could be approx rm42k per annum but let's just take the worst case scenario. in 10 years.. that would only be RM300k and in 30 years that would only be less than RM1m.. Even if i were to put them in some financial plan FD for example to be safe.. That's only RM1m +-? at the age of about 60? Hey.. with RM1m that's not give you a worry free life bro. Doesn't mean that it's wrong to wait but If i am not mistaken in 2007 when i first asked about property in this section you were here already right? QUOTE(blowwater101 @ Jul 10 2013, 11:49 PM) we are in the same stage...haha... no thank you. haha i need to script + type + perform pretty much all my work on a laptop.. The watch is a hindrance on my hand. Pardini very expensive la... Renoma 70% baju is what i usually buy or my girlfriend would buy other brand when there is SALES. get a good watch bro...RM5-6k entry level luxury watch...u can wear padini but a good watch will make u look outstanding...and a good watch can last vr long...value of money.. I'm really keeping my cost and expenditure at the bare minimum. Selling those props now would instantly give me a good amount of cash at my age but then.. You will not get anymore a decent condo at RM250k and RM300k respectively.. |
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Jul 11 2013, 12:14 AM
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As previous post, Global Party Time starts 2014-2017..... until the next burst. Don't believe the 10 year cycle??? After burst, 5 year uncertainty, 2 year start showing recover, 3 year PARTY TIME... YEAH.
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Jul 11 2013, 12:30 AM
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nope kidmad. I didn't join this thread since 2007. I joined in 2011 i guess..
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Jul 11 2013, 12:31 AM
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QUOTE(kidmad @ Jul 10 2013, 11:28 PM) Well i have another side of the story of my life as well. I pretty much don't spend on clubbing, cigarettes, liquor or any other social activity or crap which doesnt benefit me.. I dont buy expensive cloths and in fact my baju in my wardrobe are nearlly all bought by my girlfriend. Yes some working shirt i have is as old as 2 years or more.. My working pants as well i can't recall when was the last time i bought it. None of the clothing which I'm wearing were bought without sales. nah...me prefer play hard, work smarter. Afterall, life is short, never know what is around the corner. The only thing i spend is on food and gadgets. The rest all went to savings, insurance, and some funds.. I'm pretty sure everyone can do it, it's whether they want or not... My 1st job is only about RM2.7k nett monthly and i still recall how sucky it was renting only a room at that time. Staying with strangers. |
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Jul 11 2013, 12:36 AM
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QUOTE(hazairi @ Jul 10 2013, 11:49 PM) like i said previously. not that hard to get loan if you have a record with them and you click every conditions of the good customers. Maybe not highest % LTV but still can get.My strategy currently is to keep rental as low as possible and keep cash as high as I can. When the property bursts i might need the cash for high deposit payment as when the time comes, definitely it's goin to be hard to take a loan to buy those cheap properties |
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