Oh dude, if u don't even know what PDT is, you don't even have any right to comment on the Campro.

PDT stands for Proton Diagnostic Tool which is used to check all the error logged in the ECU (and yes, Gen2 logged all the error to the ECU, including the Door Ajar sensor)

Until I have a proper conenction to internet from my house, I can hardly have any access to internet. My access to internet is very restricted and it's impossible for me to upload any attachment currently.

VTEC? oh pal, B16x series engine is designed as a performance engine in mind, while campro S4PH found in GEN2 & WAJA is designed to be a Thermal efficient, cost efficient and Green engine which exceed Euro 4 emmission standard in mind. I won't mind to tell you that Campro series design can be modified to a more powerful engine without deploying any CPS technology.

The near flat torque curve i mentioned is between 2500 to 5500rpm before the torque started to drop below 80% peak. From what I understand from proton, The result is achieved by deploying VIM and electronic throttle body control which work similar way in the Civic 2006.

I'm not bashing City, but after tried most of the cars in similar price range from 50k to 100k (as those car actually same class in terms of engine capacity and type) for nearly 2 weeks, the Gen2 wins for me for superb handing and good power on wider rpm range. the City VTEC maybe better, but the i-DSi cannot even match with the Gen2 on all these. the only thing that City surpass the Gen2 for both i-DSi and VTEC is the smooth gearbox (but again, I liked manual transmission more...) and the great turning raduis. the cabin? for me Gen2 better, as mine is dual tone colored (black & beige) quality is almost the same.

Vios? Aveo? they're all not satisfactory to me. at least the test drive unit they provide is poorly built. and I have had enough with the Toyota Fiasco previously.

yeah, me too... waiting for the *130bhp 1.6L campro.. and *155bhp R3 tuned campro..
*with CPS and VIM. (heard somewhere)

i've sat inside gen2 and inside city 2006 model.
the gen 2 is definitely crap if u wanan compare to city interiors.
city alto look small..but its freaking comfortable. the gen2, well the seats are too hard for my ass...and the dashboard plastic's is a sight that i cant stand.....even the steering feels plasticky.
honestly, city beats teh gen2 in every single position apart from price point

Oh dude, if u don't even know what PDT is, you don't even have any right to comment on the Campro.

PDT stands for Proton Diagnostic Tool which is used to check all the error logged in the ECU (and yes, Gen2 logged all the error to the ECU, including the Door Ajar sensor)

Until I have a proper conenction to internet from my house, I can hardly have any access to internet. My access to internet is very restricted and it's impossible for me to upload any attachment currently.

VTEC? oh pal, B16x series engine is designed as a performance engine in mind, while campro S4PH found in GEN2 & WAJA is designed to be a Thermal efficient, cost efficient and Green engine which exceed Euro 4 emmission standard in mind. I won't mind to tell you that Campro series design can be modified to a more powerful engine without deploying any CPS technology.

The near flat torque curve i mentioned is between 2500 to 5500rpm before the torque started to drop below 80% peak. From what I understand from proton, The result is achieved by deploying VIM and electronic throttle body control which work similar way in the Civic 2006.

I'm not bashing City, but after tried most of the cars in similar price range from 50k to 100k (as those car actually same class in terms of engine capacity and type) for nearly 2 weeks, the Gen2 wins for me for superb handing and good power on wider rpm range. the City VTEC maybe better, but the i-DSi cannot even match with the Gen2 on all these. the only thing that City surpass the Gen2 for both i-DSi and VTEC is the smooth gearbox (but again, I liked manual transmission more...) and the great turning raduis. the cabin? for me Gen2 better, as mine is dual tone colored (black & beige) quality is almost the same.

Vios? Aveo? they're all not satisfactory to me. at least the test drive unit they provide is poorly built. and I have had enough with the Toyota Fiasco previously.

it's weird then. you're commenting on normal Ver? and um....i would have to agree that the steering feels fragile..... but the wholedashboard, door trim are well decorated. and it feels better and mode solid that the City. The city, got once i seen the panel moving when the window is winding up........

Mine is HL, using leather seat and so far anyone hoped into my ride on it also commenting the improvement made by proton.

maybe normal very is still bad?>????

R3 does not have the CPS ver. Campro YET. and this statement valid by the time is posted.

but 130bhp Campro with VVT might be installed on SRM. and they're planning a 1.8 Campro Turbo for SRM.

130HP ay? 
Should be enough. But the torque is what I'm worried about.

Turbos won't be reliable. Superchargers are easier to control, plus a chance of getting a better FC. 

I have to second on cockerish's comments on Gen2 having a bad interior. Compared relatively to the cars in the same class, Gen2's interior is not up to the standard. I've sat in a Gen2 several times, and I do not fancy its panels. My credit goes to city if you want to talk about interior terms.

Here's the torque/power graph from Gen2. Source: http://www.geocities.com/robyndigital/charts.htm




The red line is claimed to be the stock before modding.
The green line is after modded to have better performance and wider torque curve.
From the chart, the stock Gen2 torque curve is terribly in the wrong range.

Engineering a supercharger to allow a decent boost at low rpm is easier though.

Where you tuned ur gen2? How much?

Mine is HL, using leather seat and so far anyone hoped into my ride on it also commenting the improvement made by proton.

maybe normal very is still bad?>????

Any car also can do it?