Not really..I m just asking is there any specific company doing IT security services that i could applied for job as a fresh graduate..any company will do as long as i could learn something..

depends. I think chemical engineer are paid more, s$3k+ for fresh grads, at least for my company.

Lol, your word is conflicting with each other. did you tried to apply at job market? there is no specific company doing IT security, as far as i know, every company involved web service have their own IT security department.

stay setia indah then work all the way to jurong toh guan

2nd months on the jobs yet ...

Anyone working at Accenture?

yeaps... reasonable.. 3k above if you're singkie and u grad from singkie school

yea rite.. in charge of 30 engineers and lead technicians... much be king of kulis

u mean arthur anderson?

my boss said to me, if i wanna excel in my career, i should stay in singapore,kinda shock with his statement... well, the office is at ubi avenue, pretty far from jb (though some of us travelling further than me ), can anyone reckon a valid finance breakdown and reasonable place to stay nearby( if is want somehow)

Ya, did not think much about the terms when writing. Should hide the numbers next time, only percentages will do. Some how when I reread the post, its really sounds like a rabbit troll showing off. Got to apologize for that

OK la last comment on the matters, I said it in the nicest way from my last reply to you, realistic range differs from people to people. Just because you feel that something is out of reach from you doesn't mean that others who can afford it is showing off. To you, the car maybe higher end. Why BM and not Toyota? I take phone for example, assume on the low side, your phone cost at least few hundred yes? Why don't use a 80 dollar don't know what brand phone. You holding a better phone at hand, and you see someone using a 80 dollar phone you feel proud and superior? Most likely you will answer no?
You kept LOL on the car, what's so funny, which I can also LOL to you back why so pathetic... Put it in a mean way, ya I am doing much better that something you feel its higher end just a normal car to me. LOL.

The money we spent on the house and the car came all from our own savings, not a cent from parents. Certainly not a 2nd gen that leech on parents. Worked very hard to get a free tertiary education, not asking for money since I left my home for study at 20, and worked very hard until today for all these. Since when you stop using your parents' money eh?

This post has been edited by Fiona Chin: Oct 3 2013, 02:16 AM

Eunos crescent, bedok reservoir, upper paya lebar road, ubi also got house, serangoon can also... money cannot buy time

The answer is yes... eCops..... if you can, try getting into a bank or financial services company IT security.

No need to apologize, invite me to your open house can liao :idea

No, Accenture, the tech and management consulting firm. It used to be part of AA, but AA went down many years ago.

Symantec counts? Lol.. Couz works there..

Where's ur open house? I heard u move into new condo..

Kekeke, the coy that cheated pipu's $.. Lol

Stressful I think..

oh no im a chemical engineering degree holder. i shud find a petrochemical company instead for higher pay.

That was the accounting division. Now no more dy. Only the consulting group survived cause split from the parent company before shit hit the fan.

I am sorry if I offended you...as i really did not mean to.
i lol-ed that much at the car just because it is more towards higher end option and your example like i said was deemed to target the average ppl, that is all...nothing else
well, what u said abt the car not being in my reach is painfully true...so maybe that is why i am a bit psycho (usually already psycho) and keep lol-ing (consciously or unconsciously).
hopefully one day i can get a car that my wife dream of then maybe if the situation gets even better, my dream car on top of that.
i still in learning the ways to improve...so please forgive my naivety

for the 2nd gen comment...it guess it did not come out the way i wanted it to be (i suck in expressing myself).
what i meant in 2nd gen was parents came over first and you were brought up here..not the cantonese version of 2nd gen (i just thought of this n i suppose that is why u got so pissed off ). for this, i apologize, i am not cantonese...anyone who worked hard and got labelled that definitely have the right to be pissed.
i nvr said the money you forked out for the house and car is not yours
i am just saying for cases of normal average ppl especially those who spent their time growing up and probably started working in m'sia first then move over here, we have a very painful experience of seeing our hard earn savings (in numbers) shrink by a lot because of the conversion (price to pay for migrating but if we decide to go back to retire, we will be laughing until our teeth drop).
housing wise...to be honest, i consider the pricing relatively the same in numbers to back home...just that the type is diff aka hdb here ~ m'sia apt/condo, private here ~ m'sia landed, landed here ~ erm...i duno what to compare
since ppl back in m'sia, slightly above avg income ppl can afford to buy landed...i am very sure u (way above average from how u express yourself) have the capability to do that without a doubt
furthermore, you have mentioned that your worked your butt off with your partner when u started working to come to your position now
so u definitely deserve whatever luxury u can afford now.
i seriously did not mean u leeching or anything...it is just that to be being a 2nd gen (my version...not the canto version) , it is very unlikely that u started working and saving back in m'sia so u do not have the experience of seeing the savings shrink (very painful experience ).

on having a better life or not...most part is based on whether you deserve it or not (u worked ur butt off for what u want or not)
then, there is a small part which is the situation you were borned into...we can't choose this, but we can choose to either stay in that situation and mope abt it or work harder to climb up.

depending on the industry, your salary is consider good ady.. =)

chemical engineer only get high pay if they got into the correct industry.. haha.. it really depends.. if you got into those big OnG company like singapore... SGD5k per month also not an issue.. lol..

haha thanks alot for your reply. i'm thinking to move into O&G industry and hopefully can get that high pay soon. now im just a vendor to O&G company nia =.=