@jayraptor

You stay out and support which brand of company now??

I'd though you support K5 at all.

This post has been edited by kimsim: May 23 2013, 07:42 AM

6UE5T,

Since there's no way we can get FC result here due to too new. Results from Aussies and Americans rated the Mazda 6 has slightly better FC than new Camry 2.5L dual VVTi. In down under, they rated Teana 2.5 V6 as most fuel guzzling in city driving, losing to Sonata/K5 2.4L, Camry 2.5L, older Camry 2.4L, Accord 2.4L, older Mazda 6 2.5L (rated great FC).


kimsim,

I don't stick to any brand. Which car good, I support. That's all. I never support K5 since the beginning, dislike its retro dashboard that reminds me of imported old Passat 1991 that is rarely available here back then. I prefer Sonata YF over K5. The Mazda 6 is most impressive in terms of tech and design, I give it higher practical score than Sonata/K5. Good thing about Mazda 6, Sonata and K5 is they all have split fold rear seats where I can use in case I buy something big such as from IKEA.

Teana, Sylphy, Almera all no split fold. These cars are meant for commoners (lower to mid income group) yet they don't seems to fit the requirements.

I thought you have the means to test it out yourself, only needs a couple of weeks to do it actually.

As an m6 owner, ur concern is also my concern. I choose m6 at the end. But comparing a 2.5 teana and 2.0 m6 is abit absurd. M6 will definitely win the fc. Check my siggy about the fc for my 2.0 m6

Why worried about maintainance cost. U got a free 3 yrs or 60k free service

What i scare is the maintenance cost after 3 years

Hear from SA ... madza part mostly don't have so called "OEM" much. So if all use original.

i think the price won't be low. Thats my concern.

Teana 2.5 v6 is the most fuel guzzler is expected due to low compression ratio of the engine, the theme is smooth and comfort cruiser car.

You should consider M6 2.5 since it's a bit cheaper compared to Teana, has more new technologies than Teana, and it's way better looking. Teana may have a V6 but it has a CVT tranny.

Aiyo, have enough money to consider buying such expensive cars but still thinking to buy cheaper non-ori parts?

Hahaha ..sure wat.... those r still dollars and cents ..bro ...every cents count ><

Tested the passat TSI just now ...handling damm nice ...engine very quiet also .. . Still got promotion 160+k ...

If U think of FC as ur main priority buy Viva or even better ride a kapchai, best of all Bicycle.

What is so big from IKEA that can't be fitted into Teana boot ? Anything bigger u should use the delivery service.

Wow lower income group can afford Almera, does that mean Forte EX Kosong which is at the same price category meant for lower income group like U as well ?? What do u mean commoners ? R U a Superman ?

Teana, Sylphy Almera are good car which is comfort, reliable.

But why bother now. Ckd will come in the near future. Parts will be available easily then

WHere to get new Mazda 6? I am not with the press anyway. Those cars results I got were from my own cars or by babysitting colleagues' cars who went offshore or outstation site work.

Unlike infected journalist cincai result, they could even get FC results before testing the car. My way is to drive the few cars in city traffic at similar traffic and driving style few times to get average FC reading. Rather than believing the drive plate, I prefer keeping watch on the RPM meter instead as some Japanese cars come with sensitive accelerator plate to make it feel like it's powerful to hide its underpowered flaws. Conti cars usually have less sensitive or harder accelerator pedal as it is strong enough to propel forward and they wanted you to drive safe and more towards FC.

I find cars that are really strong prefers to be humble despite it has the power. Cars that have weak torque and weak inferior smaller gears gearbox tend to have sensitive plate like having inferiority complex. Teana and Accord are actually weaker than Camry but the 2 came with more sensitive drive plate to give driver the impression that they are stronger than Camry. In real road acceleration test and torque test, the Camry actually won both tests. Anyway, the Camry 1AZ engine with 190Nm@4000rpm is getting old, time to make way for dual VVTi 3ZR-FE that is even more impressive with 194Nm@4000rpm yet save fuel.

Yeah, that's how I measure mine as well, the problem is my daily routes pass thru the Tun Razak jams, hence my FC avg might not be as good.

As for the throttle sensitivity, well that's the advantage/disadvantage of the drive-by-wire system, can be set with variability, some got more lags and some too sensitive. Can easily alter with those add-on throttle controller module anyway, so no big deal IMHO. Many cars now also already have those eco, normal, sport, even race mode settings that function to adjust the throttle input among other things.

You don't represent carbuyers and car owners, therefore you can say FC is not priority. People are comparing D-segment vs D-segment here. Are you saying those who could barely afford Japanese/Korean D-segment have lots of cash to throw around? They too are tied to loan, forking out own hard earned cash and they too need to reserve extra cash for something else. FC is indeed a concern, that is why when comes to D-segment, they have to choose the most reliable, durable, practical with proper FC.

Larger household item such as folding mattress can't fit into Teana's boot and without splitfold. However, my Forte also can fit. Your kid buy BMW bicycle, you can't fit in Teana. However, I could do so with Forte thanks to split fold. Sonata, Optima and Mazda 6 have splitfolds too, no problem with these sized household items. At least that saves us the additional shipping cost that is not even necessary.

So you are saying, these common income group people can waste cash by paying delivery service over items that are just slightly bigger but not that big? By right could fit in the car with just splitfolds.

Almera can be sold at Preve price range because P1 finds it as lower level substandard quality product that is not threatening P1 sales. Those who buy Almera are mostly those who could only afford P1 therefore, the most they push could only go for Almera. Those who could fork out 10k more would choose either Vios, Forte, Fiesta already. Mind you, when your budget at max at RM70k only, pushing further even just few thousands could drive you dry.

Have you rectify the old engine blown issue due to abnormal overheat in previous models N16, Teana, Cefiro A33? Teana, Almera, Sylphy are all missing EGR sensor that in US said to prevent engine backfire. Could it be the cause that cause engine blown issues after warranty ended from 5years onwards?

LOL, wah, really know how to bullshit lar you, from autoworld to lowyat, EGR sensor, you better get more info before bullshit at here, LOL backfire pulak LOL, N16, Teana, Cefiro abnormal overheat, hahahahaha, you better check back the topic regarding to the Cefiro and N16, there got plenty of real owner there sharing their opinion, and when is the Teana, Almera and Sylphy don't have the EGR sensor, LOL, what the hell is fellow belong to......... please him!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Only you bunch said baseless. You don't even know what is EGR and where it is located. Hello, your technical department staff are related to me. Your products don't have the EGR sensor in order to cut cost, what else. You are not N-brand owners by the way, you can't even say a word right about your products.

If you read few threads here on Low Yat forum, you can find dozens of N-brand owners that mentioned abnormal overheating cases if they did not turn off the engine on time, it'll blow up the engine. You didn't know, in US, they set all their N-brand equipped with EGR ever since the many backfire incidents in Sentra '01? Ah yes, despite the many technical guides in your department, you don't even know what are those guides about.

Fyi, some car companies are starting to hire technical background veterans to become management and marketing staff. You bunch too could be next when this new trend spreads to all car companies here.

Ha ha this thread from D-Segment and now become buy "Forte" is good enought..

I think you would be consider a forte to instead of d-segment?

For most of ppls can afford in D-Segment then still care about RV & High FC...

Unless you can afford in 2nd hand older D-Segment car only...

Just funny about now become another autoworld again.

I have a hard time trying to make sense of those numbers you posted on Fuelly. The only thing I can conclude is that those numbers are good for highway. Some of the other Mazda 6 owners who have much heavier city driving has got much higher L/100km which is closer to around 10 to 11L/100km.

yawn...even potong saga 's FC s bad. Wonder bemmer and Merc owner concerned on FC and rv? Yawn.....

lol.. its hard to believe right? u are right, the fc really good at highway..
as far as im concern, 2.0s owner have good FC. i can achieve 5.xl/100km at 100% highway with max speed of 110km/hr. 100% city JB driving around 8.7l/100km.
but for 2.5, majority have average fc around 9~11l/100km for city driving but ive seen some 2.5 m6 owner do have good fc at city driving.. but not much.. STKM manage to get 6.3l/100km at 20% highway 80% trunk road