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 Proton Prevé V18, more and more on da roads!

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post Sep 20 2013, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(:3mushy:3 @ Sep 20 2013, 07:52 PM)
The answer is simple. Your engine might need to be regulated for every 10k if you used fully synthetic, but what about other parts? Some people have concerns about this, but usually your car will be fine with 10k interval because for every car, they already have a schedule of which part needs to be replaced at what interval, for example, you need to change your timing belt at 80,000km.N ot only Proton, Honda, Toyota, Peugeot, Ford, they all recommend 10k interval.

The SA recommend semi-synthetic for 5k is because, well, it is only good for that mileage. Full-synthetic engine oil can last until 10k. If you're going to do 5k intreval service, why do you need the unnecessary and more expensive fully-synthetic oil that can last up to 10k? smile.gif
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I see. Thanks for the explanation. I have a Honda Accord, and the service interval is 5k or every 3 months. Like this I will go for the 10k service. Not bothered with visiting the SC every 5k tongue.gif


Can Preve owners try this on their car. Need to check on my Suprima:

After starting the car before driving, try pressing the foot brake while in "P". Not the initial foot brake press to start the car. Press once or few times after that. Is there a weird "tak" sound coming from the centre dash below the USB ports? Weirdly this only happens when the car is stationary and in P, and not from N going to P.. Does not happen when driving, does not happen immediately after starting the car. Actually I am not sure what it is. Under normal circumstances, no one will ever press the brake few times after turning on the car, car stationary in "P" and pressing the brake.
Can someone else verify this?

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post Sep 20 2013, 11:23 PM

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I asked a similar question 1 day ago. Basically you are hearing a click sound every time you press the brake pedal when in P.

I was told that it is normal and it is the shift lock mechanism in play. This prevents one from moving from P to another mode unless the brake is press first.
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post Sep 20 2013, 11:45 PM

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yes that is the thing smile.gif
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QUOTE(lkyoong @ Sep 20 2013, 11:23 PM)
I asked a similar question 1 day ago. Basically you are hearing a click sound every time you press the brake pedal when in P.

I was told that it is normal and it is the shift lock mechanism in play. This prevents one from moving from P to another mode unless the brake is press first.
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QUOTE(ben3003 @ Sep 20 2013, 11:45 PM)
yes that is the thing smile.gif
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Thank you thumbup.gif . Thought it was something else.


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post Sep 21 2013, 01:34 AM

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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Sep 18 2013, 10:18 AM)
There is no more sound coming from the rear of my car already. No annoying rattling sound and pretty quiet so far, though my car is still new, only about 2 months old. CVT and Turbo engine sound is normal in the Preve Turbo, though similarly have got used to it. Only when one is already used to driving quiet cars, then he will feel the Preve Turbo to be little noisy.

The Preve Turbo compensates with excellent delivery power and acceleration though. I recently let a friend of mine tested the car and he commented that the car's acceleration is powerful.
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before i put the pen down to choose Preve CFE, i know the car has rough engine sound. when i test drive the car, i ask the SA about the sound and he said it is normal for CFE. If i want a bit silent engine, i can opt for Exec. So after decided to buy my firered, i dont put high expectation and just except her limitation and hope she will be nice for me for at least for 7 years. smile.gif smile.gif

i just dont understand why other people out there complaint about the sound after they got the car. didnt they drove the car first before they buy?
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post Sep 21 2013, 07:41 AM

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QUOTE(aks_berhad @ Sep 21 2013, 01:34 AM)
before i put the pen down to choose Preve CFE, i know the car has rough engine sound. when i test drive the car, i ask the SA about the sound and he said it is normal for CFE. If i want a bit silent engine, i can opt for Exec. So after decided to buy my firered, i dont put high expectation and just except her limitation and hope she will be nice for me for at least for 7 years.  smile.gif  smile.gif

i just dont understand why other people out there complaint about the sound after they got the car. didnt they drove the car first before they buy?
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I presume you had chosen the Preve Turbo? I have not tried the low-spec Preve but personally I feel that although the Preve Turbo's engine is louder than the low spec model, it has many other more useful features(auto cruise, GPS etc.) and most importantly the powerful acceleration which is useful for everyday drivability. The strengths and fully-loaded features in the Preve Turbo outweigh all other weaknesses.

There are not many cars at around RM70k in the class of Preve Turbo that have Auto cruise control feature, and to me the Preve Turbo really represents good value if compared to other vehicles. I just bought the Ford Focus Titanium, and at RM115k it does not have Auto cruise feature, a feature which I think is quite useful. I will just have to live with it. The higher spec version of the Focus which has this feature is not worth it to me at an additional premium of RM10k.

Having said that, I just got to know that the actual value of the RM115k Ford Focus is only RM34,977 from the shipping invoice from Thailand. Shipping from Thailand to Malaysia comes up to RM1472 and insurance RM300+. So all in the RM115k Focus is still around RM36k+. In this sense the Proton Preve Turbo is seen as good value due to the high sales/import tax imposed by the government to imported cars.

Enjoy your Preve Turbo. It is surely one solid car. I crave for the Auto Cruise control feature of the Preve Turbo that is missing in the Focus. Anyway, not a big deal.

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post Sep 21 2013, 07:51 AM

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cif cost from thailand doesnt include distributor profit.. so the balance is tax plus distributor profit. in thailand also u dnt get thailand focus at 36k.
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QUOTE(mat79 @ Sep 21 2013, 07:51 AM)
cif cost from thailand doesnt include distributor profit.. so the balance is tax plus distributor profit. in thailand also u dnt get thailand focus at 36k.
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How much can distributor profit be. Proton vehicles are not subjected to high import/sales tax by government since it is Malaysian-owned, and yet they are selling at far higher prices. My point is Proton(or Perodua) could be more competitive even though the prices are already seen to be "competitive" when compared to other imported vehicles. AFter all, it is a Malaysian vehicle made for Malaysians.


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prtn is subjected to same exice tax as focus albeit lower coz lower engine capacity which is the same as others at same engine cc tax bracket and same 10% sales tax.

if focus is qualified under afta rules, 30% of import tax shud be waived. the only excise n sales tax is applicable.
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excise tax for prtn is 75% plus 10% sales tax. in thailand, tax bracket around 30% to 60%. tax treatment need to be fair under afta across asian. the only thing can reduce the tax is by introducing some program like hybrid car tax waving in malaysia n low cost green car program as in thailand n indonesia,but it must be apply to all car makers,not only for local car.

if not,u r breaching the cntract under afta n fta, which the country can be banned from selling own prduct n can be fined.
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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Sep 21 2013, 07:41 AM)
I presume you had chosen the Preve Turbo? I have not tried the low-spec Preve but personally I feel that although the Preve Turbo's engine is louder than the low spec model, it has many other more useful features(auto cruise, GPS etc.) and most importantly the powerful acceleration which is useful for everyday drivability. The strengths and fully-loaded features in the Preve Turbo outweigh all other weaknesses.

There are not many cars at around RM70k in the class of Preve Turbo that have Auto cruise control feature, and to me the Preve Turbo really represents good value if compared to other vehicles. I just bought the Ford Focus Titanium, and at RM115k it does not have Auto cruise feature, a feature which I think is quite useful. I will just have to live with it. The higher spec version of the Focus which has this feature is not worth it to me at an additional premium of RM10k.

Having said that, I just got to know that the actual value of the RM115k Ford Focus is only RM34,977 from the shipping invoice from Thailand. Shipping from Thailand to Malaysia comes up to RM1472 and insurance RM300+. So all in the RM115k Focus is still around RM36k+. In this sense the Proton Preve Turbo is seen as good value due to the high sales/import tax imposed by the government to imported cars.

Enjoy your Preve Turbo. It is surely one solid car. I crave for the Auto Cruise control feature of the Preve Turbo that is missing in the Focus. Anyway, not a big deal.
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yerp, mine is turbo version. ford focus is one of my favorite cars. for me it is an alien on malaysian road. accompanying my friend to test drive the car few months back was a precious experience. because budget constraint, my friend choose peug 308T. if i have budget to buy honda civic, definitely i'll choose focus titanium+.
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u guys never know how much our UMW, Sime Darby, naza earn. Every car they sold, they make at least 50-100% profit. a puny camry with lousy spec selling at 140k while in japan or else where they are using better camry? figure it out urself.

don owes blame tax, blame cronies like UMW, Honda, Tan Cheong, Sime Darby, Naza those AP holder.

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Alert : Thread derailing. Please take the discussion about the Malaysian car market, tax, excise duty, cronyism and baseless conspiracy theory outside
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hi all, just sharing a bit,just realise last year, proton bandung jawa had uploaded a few of crashtest done for exora,n which some of them not even being tested by any ancap. its only a part of crashtests being done showed in the video,n that is how prtn done their testing. its actually internal video,but since uploaded by the dealer,its ok i guest. just hope u guys can learn a bit on part of making cars,not as simple one might think. sorry for offtopic,the video is in youtube. sorry in advance on earlier comments on tax,just answering the question. sory also 4 being offtopic in this comment.
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hi all, i just bought a preve but unfortunately there is a dent which already corrode at the side of the rear door side skirt so what should i do? so bad that do not see the dent of corrosion on the day when car deliver......
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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Sep 21 2013, 08:06 AM)
How much can distributor profit be. Proton vehicles are not subjected to high import/sales tax by government since it is Malaysian-owned, and yet they are selling at far higher prices. My point is Proton(or Perodua) could be more competitive even though the prices are already seen to be "competitive" when compared to other imported vehicles. AFter all, it is a Malaysian vehicle made for Malaysians.
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Proton have excise tax, more or less similar with cars imported from thailand and CKDs.

These imported cars DO NOT have import tax.
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I couldnt start my car earlier it stated low battery and i tried numerously until i open my hood and then close it without doing much..then my car can start edi

i didn left my light open and even if i does i only go eat for about 15mins

another thing is, after i turn off my engine i open my hood and i realise there still some sound going on... is tat normal?

please enlighten me

preve auto the low spec one...60k... u guys called it cvt rite?
3months old car

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QUOTE(GGSC27 @ Sep 21 2013, 09:08 PM)
I couldnt start my car earlier it stated low battery and i tried numerously until i open my hood and then close it without doing much..then my car can start edi

i didn left my light open and even if i does i only go eat for about 15mins

another thing is, after i turn off my engine i open my hood and i realise there still some sound going on... is tat normal?

please enlighten me

preve auto the low spec one...60k... u guys called it cvt rite?
3months old car
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if cant start the car and show low battery, go change new battery.

what sound? like a fan spinning? its normal for cooling down the car.
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Is anyone know how to check the preve is a refurbished or a new unit?
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hi, i just got my Preve CFE. What's worrying me is this (missing screws sad.gif ). I already called the SA, but what do you think about this guys?




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