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post Mar 11 2013, 11:23 AM, updated 11y ago

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post Mar 11 2013, 12:45 PM

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post Mar 11 2013, 02:47 PM

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long live the m43. i'm still using the first panasonic lumix m43 cam the GF-1.
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post Mar 11 2013, 08:16 PM

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olympus m43 user reporting. and WTB 45mm f1.8, vf-2,
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reporting into new thread !
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I want to do fun photography kinda street way, fast and candid..but dunno where to start. any tips guy?
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hey guys, where do u guys take insect macro shoot other than butterfly/orchid park? Preferably natural light as i dont own a flashgun hehee
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QUOTE(NISMOgan @ Mar 13 2013, 09:29 AM)
hey guys, where do u guys take insect macro shoot other than butterfly/orchid park? Preferably natural light as i dont own a flashgun hehee
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any public place that is rich of these insects?? hehe
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post Mar 13 2013, 05:44 PM

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yay for V6!

how much is the 35-100mm Lumix G lens going for now, anyone knows?
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post Mar 13 2013, 05:47 PM

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Guys, may I know in KL area any camera shop selling goods with reasonable price?

I'm Chung from Sabah, will travel to KL next week, so hopefully can get some camera equipment (my hometown too expensive), currently using panasonic G5.

Thank you everybody,

have a nice day.
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QUOTE(lovecherrie @ Mar 13 2013, 05:47 PM)
Guys, may I know in KL area any camera shop selling goods with reasonable price?

I'm Chung from Sabah, will travel to KL next week, so hopefully can get some camera equipment (my hometown too expensive), currently using panasonic G5.

Thank you everybody,

have a nice day.
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can go sg wang, lowyat or berjaya but not sure if got enuf choice of m43 acce. pertama i thk als got.
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post Mar 13 2013, 09:25 PM

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Just wondering, anyone has tried Olympus 40-150 lens? Is it good?

I'm going to get EM5 with kit lens 12-50mm, this sunday, but I'm thinking of getting a good and cheap zoom lens.
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QUOTE(kenary820 @ Mar 13 2013, 08:51 PM)
can go sg wang, lowyat or berjaya but not sure if got enuf choice of m43 acce. pertama i thk als got.
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Thank you bro.... rclxms.gif

Usually which shop you go for camera things shopping?
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QUOTE(incubus_skj @ Mar 13 2013, 05:44 PM)
yay for V6!

how much is the 35-100mm Lumix G lens going for now, anyone knows?
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its 4k++ cheapest as I know

QUOTE(lovecherrie @ Mar 13 2013, 05:47 PM)
Guys, may I know in KL area any camera shop selling goods with reasonable price?

I'm Chung from Sabah, will travel to KL next week, so hopefully can get some camera equipment (my hometown too expensive), currently using panasonic G5.

Thank you everybody,

have a nice day.
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yeap i suggest Mid Valley, Sg Wang or Digital Mall (nothing much to shop there)
For me this 3 place cheaper than normal price.

QUOTE(merajey @ Mar 13 2013, 11:15 PM)
Does anyone with OM-D got problem with LCD hinge crack issue?Does Olympus warranty covered?
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Yes, Olympus is recalling this problem with certain serial number range.
Please chk with them.
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QUOTE(NISMOgan @ Mar 14 2013, 09:08 AM)
its 4k++ cheapest as I know
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QUOTE(incubus_skj @ Mar 14 2013, 10:13 AM)
puke blood

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haha Shashinki selling 6k biggrin.gif
L lenses price edi hehe
But the quality is there, really superb lens.
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QUOTE(NISMOgan @ Mar 14 2013, 10:39 AM)
haha Shashinki selling 6k biggrin.gif
L lenses price edi hehe
But the quality is there, really superb lens.
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can buy 2 more OM-D bodies d lo
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post Mar 14 2013, 11:59 AM

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olympus m43 user reporting. and WTB 45mm f1.8, vf-2,
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guys, suggest me lens for omd to use for indoors n travel, 45mm? im a beginner btw
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QUOTE(avars @ Mar 14 2013, 12:14 PM)
guys, suggest me lens for omd to use for indoors n travel, 45mm? im a beginner btw
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12-50 kit lens.
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QUOTE(avars @ Mar 14 2013, 12:14 PM)
guys, suggest me lens for omd to use for indoors n travel, 45mm? im a beginner btw
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Stick with the kit lens, 12-50.
It's versatile and splash-proof, so good for travelling.
It might be slow (aperture-wise) for indoor use
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QUOTE(faidz85 @ Mar 14 2013, 11:59 AM)
Reporting in!
I have black VF-2 Just lying around since I got my OM-D...I lost its puch though when my bag got stolen. The VF-2 itself is in good condition. Interested?
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QUOTE(avars @ Mar 14 2013, 12:14 PM)
guys, suggest me lens for omd to use for indoors n travel, 45mm? im a beginner btw
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yeah, like the other 2 sifu suggest keep the kit lens with u.
you can use your 12-50mm (zoomed to 45mm and hold it) and try to live with it all along your photography to see if it suit you. If yes then u may consider getting the 45mm since it is a much brighter lens.
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QUOTE(NISMOgan @ Mar 14 2013, 09:08 AM)
its 4k++ cheapest as I know
yeap i suggest Mid Valley, Sg Wang or Digital Mall (nothing much to shop there)
For me this 3 place cheaper than normal price.
Yes, Olympus is recalling this problem with certain serial number range.
Please chk with them.
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Thanks for reply brother.

I think i'll go to Sg Wang and Lowyat plaza as I stay nearby there.

Thanks a lot brother.
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post Mar 14 2013, 05:31 PM

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Just got an Olympus PL3. I'm impressed by the size, it's so small. Color rendition was pretty good too. Nothing awesome is framed here, just a test shot in my kitchen with yellow lights.

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QUOTE(faidz85 @ Mar 14 2013, 11:59 AM)
Reporting in!
I have black VF-2 Just lying around since I got my OM-D...I lost its puch though when my bag got stolen. The VF-2 itself is in good condition. Interested?
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vf2 pana..wats the hard to resist price? :-)
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QUOTE(mumeichan @ Mar 14 2013, 05:31 PM)
Just got an Olympus PL3. I'm impressed by the size, it's so small. Color rendition was pretty good too. Nothing awesome is framed here, just a test shot in my kitchen with yellow lights.

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post Mar 14 2013, 09:21 PM

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QUOTE(avars @ Mar 14 2013, 12:14 PM)
guys, suggest me lens for omd to use for indoors n travel, 45mm? im a beginner btw
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45mm not suitable in indoor.
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I used only a 12mm for one of my trips...never let me down wink.gif

Maybe a tad hard to get used to it but indoors/landscapes are amazing. Not to mention video too.
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U really got a lot of camera... :-)
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Haha, you got a whole set of lenses too =) I'm gonna add two more this week before I start selling them off. Online reviews are nice, but actually using them is the only way to pick the best for me.
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thanks for the lens suggestion guys, my only concern with the default lens is the size, it is quite long...
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Anyone interested with this grip for E-M5? It's much more cheaper than the original one & can access battery door without removing it.

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QUOTE(tcm7782 @ Mar 14 2013, 09:21 PM)
45mm not suitable in indoor.
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why not bro? i use it together with my 17mm/1.8 indoors, bright and fast enough for me la

or... unless you were referring to your PanaLeica 45mm? I think he was referring to the Oly 45mm/1.8?

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QUOTE(incubus_skj @ Mar 16 2013, 11:25 AM)
why not bro? i use it together with my 17mm/1.8 indoors, bright and fast enough for me la

or... unless you were referring to your PanaLeica 45mm? I think he was referring to the Oly 45mm/1.8?
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i didn't mentiond about the aperture ,
45mm too narrow in indoor smile.gif
but depend on what u shoot.

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17mm/1.8 somebody sell this lens to me please... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(tcm7782 @ Mar 16 2013, 12:06 PM)
i didn't mentiond about the aperture ,
45mm too narrow in indoor smile.gif
but depend on what u shoot.
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i second this, unless its a head shot or portrait, 45mm almost impossible to be used indoors, unless its in a very big space

it's better to grab a 17 or 25 for travelling or indoor use
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QUOTE(QiAnG @ Mar 16 2013, 12:36 PM)
i second this, unless its a head shot or portrait, 45mm almost impossible to be used indoors, unless its in a very big space

it's better to grab a 17 or 25 for travelling or indoor use
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totally agree, i use it for indoor portrait, need to step backward and backward biggrin.gif
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say, 45mm is not really an ideal use indoor due to focal length.. perhaps shot only head to shoulder and limited to portrait not any group...

btw, 45mm could be use in wide area like studio, hall etc.. if your room is just about 50sqft - 80sqft.. then u will facing difficulties..

45mm is mean to portrait lens but it doesnt mean use only for portrait..
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QUOTE(subrok007 @ Mar 16 2013, 05:54 PM)
say, 45mm is not really an ideal use indoor due to focal length.. perhaps shot only head to shoulder and limited to portrait not any group...

btw, 45mm could be use in wide area like studio, hall etc.. if your room is just about 50sqft - 80sqft.. then u will facing difficulties..

45mm is mean to portrait lens but it doesnt mean use only for portrait..
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If you have 20mm, 25mm then go for 45mm..or else 20mm and 25mm is more versatile..one more thing you need to consider your light..if you into strobing again 20mm and 25mm more versatile imo..you just move forward or backward to frame and what i mean by verstile you can add more people or background in your framing.
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QUOTE(tcm7782 @ Mar 16 2013, 12:06 PM)
i didn't mentiond about the aperture ,
45mm too narrow in indoor smile.gif
but depend on what u shoot.
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ohhh okok so that's what you mean

that's why i have the 17mm/25mm to pair up with it.

sometimes want to take shots of subjects from a further distance even if it's indoor


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QUOTE(kenary820 @ Mar 16 2013, 07:19 PM)
If you have 20mm, 25mm then go for 45mm..or else 20mm and 25mm is more versatile..one more thing you need to consider your light..if you into strobing again 20mm and 25mm more versatile imo..you just move forward or backward to frame and what i mean by verstile you can add more people or background in your framing.
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second that, but mostly m4/3 primes lens all give fast aperture 1.. so no worry bout light.. just pick any focal length that your desire..

my current lineup is 19mm, 45mm, 14-42, 40-150... right now just to consider whether wanna get 25mm or not..

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QUOTE(subrok007 @ Mar 18 2013, 10:11 AM)
second that, but mostly m4/3 primes lens all give fast aperture 1.. so no worry bout light.. just pick any focal length that your desire..

my current lineup is 19mm, 45mm, 14-42, 40-150... right now just to consider whether wanna get 25mm or not..
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What's there to consider? Super fast...and the cheapest Leica* you can get. It's a bargain! brows.gif I'm getting it once budget allows.
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What's there to consider? Super fast...and the cheapest Leica* you can get. It's a bargain!  brows.gif I'm getting it once budget allows.
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hahaha.. i know it's really bargain, the problem is i got 19mm.. 19 and 25 is just about few mm different.. dont talk about aperture... tongue.gif
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hahaha.. i know it's really bargain, the problem is i got 19mm.. 19 and 25 is just about few mm different.. dont talk about aperture... tongue.gif
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hahaha.. i know it's really bargain, the problem is i got 19mm.. 19 and 25 is just about few mm different.. dont talk about aperture... tongue.gif
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anyone still using EP-1?
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Superb Macro, what lens you use?

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QUOTE(sevendogz @ Mar 18 2013, 01:37 PM)
anyone still using EP-1?
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I am still in EPL1 the dial already broken, in which I can't go to the proper mode sad.gif
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Superb Macro, what lens you use?
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oly 40150 + raynox.
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wow look like raynox is really doing good job....wana get one
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I am still in EPL1 the dial already broken, in which I can't go to the proper mode sad.gif
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oh god.. how did that happen?
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QUOTE(frequency @ Mar 22 2013, 12:19 AM)
wow look like raynox is really doing good job....wana get one
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Definately I know even some macro sifu have it.
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I know EPL-1 is a quicker camera than EP1 but how about built quality?
Just got myself a EP1 cheap with 45mm, quite happy with the images but got focusing issue, still try to sort it out.
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QUOTE(sevendogz @ Mar 22 2013, 10:26 AM)
I know EPL-1 is a quicker camera than EP1 but how about built quality?
Just got myself a EP1 cheap with 45mm, quite happy with the images but got focusing issue, still try to sort it out.
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epl-1 built quality? my opinion is not bad.. and the holding grip is better than the other model at 'that time'.
your focusing issue is wat? AF wont lock on? or slow?
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did u update the firmware of EPL1? of it is latest version ...focusing couldn't be problem, however under low light condition with kit lens, the AF really bad and it is w/t assist focus LED/LAMP ...
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QUOTE(frequency @ Mar 22 2013, 01:57 PM)
did  u update the firmware of EPL1? of it is latest version ...focusing couldn't be problem, however under low light condition with kit lens, the AF really bad and  it is w/t  assist focus LED/LAMP ...
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never update it before. been using it since day 1 till now. ya.. in low light, the focus really bad.. not sure fl-36r assist AF lamp will work on epl1 or not..
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QUOTE(wailup @ Mar 22 2013, 01:25 PM)
epl-1 built quality? my opinion is not bad.. and the holding grip is better than the other model at 'that time'.
your focusing issue is wat? AF wont lock on? or slow?
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the 45mm lens is superb if in focus, the problem is that the focusing is slow and hunting even in bright daylight, hence missing the sharp focus mostly because of the shallow dof and subject movements.
another thing is, the aperture blade seems to making sound (by opening the aperture wide then narrow) automatically before shots were taken, especially at night.

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QUOTE(sevendogz @ Mar 22 2013, 04:55 PM)
the 45mm lens is superb if in focus, the problem is that the focusing is slow and hunting even in bright daylight, hence missing the sharp focus mostly because of the shallow dof and subject movements.
another thing is, the aperture blade seems to making sound (by opening the aperture wide then narrow) automatically before shots were taken, especially at night.
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slow.. i wonder how 'slow' is slow.. if night time, i think.. even the normal 14-42 also will make sound... but.. im not sure whether is that a shutter sound or blade sound.. but then again.. since i only have this m43.. i got nothing else to compare already..
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those old model have to update the body firmware n lens firmware...

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slow.. i wonder how 'slow' is slow.. if night time, i think.. even the normal 14-42 also will make sound... but.. im not sure whether is that a shutter sound or blade sound.. but then again.. since i only have this m43.. i got nothing else to compare already..
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you mean your 14-42 makes sound even before making shots? could it be that the lens tried to open up to gather more lights for focusing but close down again to match the aperture chosen
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you mean your 14-42 makes sound even before making shots? could it be that the lens tried to open up to gather more lights for focusing but close down again to match the aperture chosen
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i think so.. but im not concerned bout that lo... as long as it still able to take sharp picture. dont care already.. hahaa
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Guys, quick question.

Any of you bought a flash for your m43? Planning on getting a DSLR flash (yung nuo 560II/III), the only issue is with the weight distribution on my Oly EP3. Any of you use them extensively for long period of time? How's the experience?

I notice the OM-D EM-5 is alot heavier, so putting on the flash wouldnt cause much issue. i wished mine was heavier sad.gif
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QUOTE(Mowgly @ Mar 26 2013, 08:40 AM)
Guys, quick question.

Any of you bought a flash for your m43? Planning on getting a DSLR flash (yung nuo 560II/III), the only issue is with the weight distribution on my Oly EP3. Any of you use them extensively for long period of time? How's the experience?

I notice the OM-D EM-5 is alot heavier, so putting on the flash wouldnt cause much issue. i wished mine was heavier sad.gif
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just got myself a FL-300R. although it's smaller than those DSLR flash, yet i still feels it's a little bit big for my epl1.
still trying to get a good setting for it, flash bounce from ceiling is a new thing for me to learn. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(wailup @ Mar 26 2013, 09:29 AM)
just got myself a FL-300R. although it's smaller than those DSLR flash, yet i still feels it's a little bit big for my epl1.
still trying to get a good setting for it, flash bounce from ceiling is a new thing for me to learn.  biggrin.gif
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awesome! How much did you get it for? How's the weight and feel of it when attached to the epl1?

My main concern with choosing is actually the price. Then comes the weight/ergonomic factor of using a big/heavy flash on my EP3. So wanted the input of anybody who has any experience with it here.
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awesome! How much did you get it for? How's the weight and feel of it when attached to the epl1?

My main concern with choosing is actually the price. Then comes the weight/ergonomic factor of using a big/heavy flash on my EP3. So wanted the input of anybody who has any experience with it here.
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price is rm499. include posting from melaka. name of the shop is pakard. they have advert in mudah. there is another cheaper flash. but a very old design.. FL-20, RM285 only. but cant tilt.
i just get the fl-300r because it is compatible with the oly-pen series. got RC function, so i got an extra setting to play with, if i wanted to...
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QUOTE(wailup @ Mar 26 2013, 12:04 PM)
price is rm499. include posting from melaka. name of the shop is pakard. they have advert in mudah. there is another cheaper flash. but a very old design.. FL-20, RM285 only. but cant tilt.
i just get the fl-300r because it is compatible with the oly-pen series. got RC function, so i got an extra setting to play with, if i wanted to...
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eh RM500 is a good price. I've only seen 600+. will look it up, thanks! so far, is the flash good? kuat anot?
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eh RM500 is a good price. I've only seen 600+. will look it up, thanks! so far, is the flash good? kuat anot?
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I see wailup already got your flash...

Anyways, a friend is looking for a cheap 12-50mm OM-D kitlens. Anyone letting go of it?
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I see wailup already got your flash...

Anyways, a friend is looking for a cheap 12-50mm OM-D kitlens. Anyone letting go of it?
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epl5 is better with zuiko 17mm f2.8 or lumix 20mm f1.7 ???
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you can try the Nissin flashes that are compatible with four thirds systems? cheap and light i guess. my nissin is quite alright on my e620. having a flash will help speed AF and indoor low light performance and is alot cheaper than getting a fast prime lens. when i got the NIssin in 2011, i think it was around 400. a fasy prime lens, f2.8 or more is at least 1k, check out YL camera website or shasinki site.
i saw a 50m/f2 macro for 4/3 used going for 1.1k on shasinki, really sharp lens and at that price is a steal. but i already a used om zuiko 50mm/f1.8. like everybody, i am on a tight budget so can only dream for now.
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you can try the Nissin flashes that are compatible with four thirds systems? cheap and light i guess. my nissin is quite alright on my e620. having a flash will help speed AF and indoor low light performance and is alot cheaper than getting a fast prime lens. when i got the NIssin in 2011, i think it was around 400. a fasy prime lens, f2.8 or more is at least 1k, check out YL camera website or shasinki site.
i saw a 50m/f2 macro for 4/3 used going for 1.1k on shasinki, really sharp lens and at that price is a steal. but i already a used om zuiko 50mm/f1.8. like everybody, i am on a tight budget so can only dream for now.
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hello everyone, i am an Oly OMD user! great to see the V6 thread! I am currently selling off my 4/3 lens - Olympus 14-54mm mkii + Oly MMF-3, very good results compared to the 12-50mm kit lens... anyone interested please PM me smile.gif

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Hi Guys,

Any suggestions for a camera shop located in KL/PJ (preferably PJ since I stay here) with extremely aggressive pricing on Panasonic M43 lenses?
Have tried the usual suspects in Digital Mall, YL Camera in Jaya 33 etc...
Was wondering if any member has knowledge of better (more cost-effective) shops.

Thinking of shifting some of my Oly primes for a Panasonic fast zoom.
Getting a bit tired of carrying and changing lenses.

Thanks bros.
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Need some advise from m43 user here.
I am still considering which m43 to go for.
Olympus EPL3 now selling RM1499 with 14-42mm but some forumer in LYN selling Rm1359.
Panasonic GF3 RM1350 comes with 14mm & 14-42mm.
In term of image quality , easy of use , durability, functions, which one would have more pros ?
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QUOTE(ekestima @ Apr 2 2013, 05:29 AM)
Need some advise from m43 user here.
I am still considering which m43 to go for.
Olympus EPL3 now selling RM1499 with 14-42mm but some forumer in LYN selling Rm1359.
Panasonic GF3 RM1350 comes with 14mm & 14-42mm.
In term of image quality , easy of use , durability, functions, which one would have more pros ?
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Hi people, I'm new in photoshooting. I have a question. I own a GF2 and I love how the photos turn out using a 50mm 1.8 but I have to stand rather far from the object. I understand that this is a prime lens? I was wondering if there are any lens that can produce the same effect but without me standing very far away from the object?

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Hi people, I'm new in photoshooting. I have a question. I own a GF2 and I love how the photos turn out using a 50mm 1.8 but I have to stand rather far from the object. I understand that this is a prime lens? I was wondering if there are any lens that can produce the same effect but without me standing very far away from the object?

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50mm with a crop factor of 2 (for M43) would be (35mm equivalent) 100mm.
You could try with a 20mm or 25mm.
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how about 20mm F1.7 for prime
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QUOTE(shootingstars83 @ Apr 2 2013, 04:45 PM)
Hi people, I'm new in photoshooting. I have a question. I own a GF2 and I love how the photos turn out using a 50mm 1.8 but I have to stand rather far from the object. I understand that this is a prime lens? I was wondering if there are any lens that can produce the same effect but without me standing very far away from the object?

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50mm 1.8? using a SLR lens with adapter?

if you want somewhat similar, then without doubt the oly 45mm 1.8.
without standing so far, then the pana 25mm 1.4.

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QUOTE(wailup @ Apr 2 2013, 09:04 AM)
im a olympus user. as far as i know. olympus has a little bit of advantage in IMAGE STABILIZATION becoz it's built into the body, hence the lens doesnt required to have it. so oly can use pana / oly lens. panasonic have difficulty in using oly lens becoz pana body no IS. it needs the lens to do the job. but i maybe wrong ya.. coz i bought the oly few years ago.. no idea how have the spec changes till now.
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Yup, I read in dpreview tat olympus hv built in where as Pana is using lens is. If u compare the result oly will have the upper advantage. Tats wat they write la. Need user review then know.
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IS can sometimes be over-rated and used as marketing tool to sell more.
afterall, IS wasnt around donkey years ago...only like last 10yrs only.
ppl have survived for long enough without it.

just stick with basics and u cant go wrong.

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50mm 1.8? using a SLR lens with adapter?

if you want somewhat similar, then without doubt the oly 45mm 1.8.
without standing so far, then the pana 25mm 1.4.
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Apr 2 2013, 06:59 PM)
IS can sometimes be over-rated and used as marketing tool to sell more.
afterall, IS wasnt around donkey years ago...only like last 10yrs only.
ppl have survived for long enough without it.

just stick with basics and u cant go wrong.
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True. But based on my own usage. The 5-axis IBIS of the OM-D is pretty darn good. It can help provide up to between 1-2 stops of advantage.
I've done handheld 1-2 sec exposure and still not bad.
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True. But based on my own usage. The 5-axis IBIS of the OM-D is pretty darn good. It can help provide up to between 1-2 stops of advantage.
I've done handheld 1-2 sec exposure and still not bad.
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ok la, if ur shooting stills.
but needless to say, its not gonna help in shooting ppl.

btw, why does ur nick sound so familiar?
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Apr 2 2013, 08:58 PM)
ok la, if ur shooting stills.
but needless to say, its not gonna help in shooting ppl.

btw, why does ur nick sound so familiar?
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Of course lar... you wanna shoot vidz, use a camcorder smile.gif
Don't use a hammer to chop wood ler *grin*

For shooting people, couple a fast lens to that body then that would be much better.
It's not a full frame, so compromises have to be made.

Hrmm.. my nick? been using it for a loooooong time, since iRC days.


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Of course lar... you wanna shoot vidz, use a camcorder smile.gif
Don't use a hammer to chop wood ler *grin*

For shooting people, couple a fast lens to that body then that would be much better.
It's not a full frame, so compromises have to be made.

Hrmm.. my nick? been using it for a loooooong time, since iRC days.
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QUOTE(Everdying @ Apr 2 2013, 06:59 PM)
IS can sometimes be over-rated and used as marketing tool to sell more.
afterall, IS wasnt around donkey years ago...only like last 10yrs only.
ppl have survived for long enough without it.

just stick with basics and u cant go wrong.
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I think a fast lens make a bigger difference.. IMO. And I have really shaky hands.. dang. Mom tell me don't fap too much I didn't listen.. sigh
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I think a fast lens make a bigger difference.. IMO. And I have really shaky hands.. dang. Mom tell me don't fap too much I didn't listen.. sigh
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ya, nothing wrong with fast lenses...for my nikon stuff I got a couple f2.8 lenses...
usually anything faster and ppl usually buy it for bokeh...like the oly 45mm or expensive 75mm.
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I think a fast lens make a bigger difference.. IMO. And I have really shaky hands.. dang. Mom tell me don't fap too much I didn't listen.. sigh
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I see wailup already got your flash...

Anyways, a friend is looking for a cheap 12-50mm OM-D kitlens. Anyone letting go of it?
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i'm thinking of selling mine. seldom used. condition very good. pls pm me price offered.

btw , im thinking of selling this n buy the oly 17mm/f1.8 lens.

mainly use during holiday trips. any opinions?

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i'm thinking of selling mine. seldom used. condition very good. pls pm me price offered.

btw , im thinking of selling this n buy the oly 17mm/f1.8 lens.

mainly use during holiday trips. any opinions?
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You probably want a zoom lens for travel rather than 1 prime only. If you have an assortment of primes then yeah.

I tried walking around with only the 14mm Panasonic.. was doh.gif when I saw something far I wanted to capture, I couldn't walk closer because, well, I can't walk on water.
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You probably want a zoom lens for travel rather than 1 prime only. If you have an assortment of primes then yeah.

I tried walking around with only the 14mm Panasonic.. was  doh.gif when I saw something far I wanted to capture, I couldn't walk closer because, well, I can't walk on water.
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u got a point there. juz tht i do a lot indoor n lowlight shooting. the kitlens juz doh.gif .

if keep on changing lens , i feel its a bit troublesome especially when moving around.
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thinking of joining u guys, wheres the best place to get an OMD Body only + PL 25mm f1.4..

Best i could find is RM2600-2700 for body only
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thinking of joining u guys, wheres the best place to get an OMD Body only + PL 25mm f1.4..

Best i could find is RM2600-2700 for body only
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try waiting for promos at the lumix stations for the PL25mm f1.4

i got it at 50% off during one of their roadshows at RM1449 only

For body, market price is about RM2.8k, if you can find anywhere cheaper then can straight buy d
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try waiting for promos at the lumix stations for the PL25mm f1.4

i got it at 50% off during one of their roadshows at RM1449 only

For body, market price is about RM2.8k, if you can find anywhere cheaper then can straight buy d
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don't know where the outlets are around KL/Selangor area, but in Penang it's at Gurney Plaza 3rd floor.

they were having 30% sales off the list price of their lenses till last month too.
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don't know where the outlets are around KL/Selangor area, but in Penang it's at Gurney Plaza 3rd floor.

they were having 30% sales off the list price of their lenses till last month too.
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try waiting for promos at the lumix stations for the PL25mm f1.4

i got it at 50% off during one of their roadshows at RM1449 only

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wa, RM1449 is damn cheap! I was thinking of buying a Oly 17mm f1.8, around RM1600. If can get the 25mm f1.4 at that price, i'll skip the 17mm.
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The 17mm 1.8 is only selling for RM1.4k in Penang though.. And yeah I got the 25mm for a very low price. It wasn't even a demo unit, was a new one straight from the box
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does it really make lots of diff if u use oly lens on pana body, coz pana does not have built in body stabilizer?
Or if u use pana ois lens on Oly body u sure get perfect photos coz got stabilizer in both body and lens ?

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Got toxified. Got myself GF5. Hopefully I made the right choice for not getting NEX system.
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QUOTE(incubus_skj @ Apr 7 2013, 08:33 AM)
The 17mm 1.8 is only selling for RM1.4k in Penang though.. And yeah I got the 25mm for a very low price. It wasn't even a demo unit, was a new one straight from the box
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does it really make lots of diff if u use oly lens on pana body, coz pana does not have built in body stabilizer?
Or if u use pana ois lens on Oly body u sure get perfect photos coz got stabilizer in both body and lens ?
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if u see any more promos on the 25mm or 12mm do tell us plz.. biggrin.gif i sanggup travel to penang if can get discount that much lol
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nah you only use the body or the lens IS, they don't work together. oly bodies can both use oly and pana lens without issue, pana bodies will have a harder time with the lack of IS if used with an oly lens
yeah man, will do  biggrin.gif
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thinking of joining u guys, wheres the best place to get an OMD Body only + PL 25mm f1.4..

Best i could find is RM2600-2700 for body only
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How much is the olympus 45mm f1.8? Just got my E-PL3. But i'm much more amazed with the E-P5 as they are able to hold their ground against bigger sensor's competitor. Kudos m43
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How much is the olympus 45mm f1.8? Just got my E-PL3. But i'm much more amazed with the E-P5 as they are able to hold their ground against bigger sensor's competitor. Kudos m43
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need an advice here,

i;m searching a small, video & still and entry dslr, - want to move out from compact segment. Small cause i;m traveling a lot, and don't want to put a lot of weight on my neck.

EPL-5 with twin lens is one of my choice, as rm 26xx at lowyat plaza, it this camera a good choice ?

see lot of oly fan here ...well ...... you now i;m no knowledge on dslr item, all those tech word.
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need an advice here,

i;m searching a small, video & still and entry dslr, - want to move out from compact segment. Small cause i;m traveling a lot, and don't want to put a lot of weight on my neck.

EPL-5 with twin lens is one of my choice, as rm 26xx at lowyat plaza, it this camera a good choice ?

see lot of oly fan here ...well ...... you now i;m no knowledge on dslr item, all those tech word.
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Any one using Prime Lens here ?

Do we need to de any setting to the camera to use this ?

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hope that the launch make the success stories as GF1 and GF2 did...quite down when it released the GF5....

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What kind of prime lens are you using? Shooting in manual or are you using a manual prime lens?

Am using an Olympus G.Zuiko 50mm f1.8, my first manual lens and first additional lens purchase. So far loving it. I like how it really forces you to compose properly, which makes your shots better. Image quality is alright, not so much different from Olympus kit lens (EP3).

The cons though is cause its manual, so it's alot harder (almost impossible) to take shots of moving subjects like street or events. And since mine is an old lens, with not so great coating, it flares/glares easily and ghosts. Even with light from bulbs will cause glares. Ghostings happens very easily when there's excessive light into the lens.
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boss, long time no c, u jump to nikon D800E already?
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need an advice here,

i;m searching a small, video & still and entry dslr, - want to move out from compact segment. Small cause i;m traveling a lot, and don't want to put a lot of weight on my neck.

EPL-5 with twin lens is one of my choice, as rm 26xx at lowyat plaza, it this camera a good choice ?

see lot of oly fan here ...well ...... you now i;m no knowledge on dslr item, all those tech word.
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Still not yet buy. M4/3 rock. D800E so heavy.
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What kind of prime lens are you using? Shooting in manual or are you using a manual prime lens?

Am using an Olympus G.Zuiko 50mm f1.8, my first manual lens and first additional lens purchase. So far loving it. I like how it really forces you to compose properly, which makes your shots better. Image quality is alright, not so much different from Olympus kit lens (EP3).

The cons though is cause its manual, so it's alot harder (almost impossible) to take shots of moving subjects like street or events.  And since mine is an old lens, with not so great coating, it flares/glares easily and ghosts. Even with light from bulbs will cause glares. Ghostings happens very easily when there's excessive light into the lens.
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I meant by those lens like those legacy lens, super takumar, pentax, minolta rokkor. Some user gives good comment but some dont.
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QUOTE(Mowgly @ Apr 15 2013, 11:05 PM)
What kind of prime lens are you using? Shooting in manual or are you using a manual prime lens?

Am using an Olympus G.Zuiko 50mm f1.8, my first manual lens and first additional lens purchase. So far loving it. I like how it really forces you to compose properly, which makes your shots better. Image quality is alright, not so much different from Olympus kit lens (EP3).

The cons though is cause its manual, so it's alot harder (almost impossible) to take shots of moving subjects like street or events.  And since mine is an old lens, with not so great coating, it flares/glares easily and ghosts. Even with light from bulbs will cause glares. Ghostings happens very easily when there's excessive light into the lens.
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Sound hard using manual lens..in theory if you set the focus say to hyperfocal distance everything at the back should be in focus. For moving subject can use shutter speed mode. This is just based on understanding, can try if it works or not.
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QUOTE(ekestima @ Apr 16 2013, 09:07 PM)
I meant by those lens like those legacy lens, super takumar, pentax, minolta rokkor. Some user gives good comment but some dont.
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Mine is also a legacy lens. Full manual Olympus G.Zuiko 50mm f/1.8.

So you mean prime lens as in the legacy lens then?

QUOTE(kenary820 @ Apr 17 2013, 06:32 AM)
Sound hard using manual lens..in theory if you set the focus say to hyperfocal distance everything at the back should be in focus. For moving subject can use shutter speed mode. This is just based on understanding, can try if it works or not.
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Yeah. I've been trying that out actually, the hyperfocal distance. I dont know how to explain, but I find it hard to "follow" the target since there's a very narrow FOV. What I've been doing is setting the focus to a certain distance, and then walk around to keep that same distance for every shot while making slight adjustments on the go. Sort of the same thing lah, just not sure how to explain. hahaha

An example, I got this fairly sharp and focused.
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nice photo, i have an 14mm pancake lens but then saw got forumer selling some prime lens priced reasonably n was thinking of trying them.
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QUOTE(FrostLance @ Apr 7 2013, 10:27 PM)
if u see any more promos on the 25mm or 12mm do tell us plz.. biggrin.gif i sanggup travel to penang if can get discount that much lol
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I suggest buy it earlier so that u can use earlier if it is 100-200 difference.
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QUOTE(NISMOgan @ Apr 15 2013, 10:12 AM)
yes its a very good choice, using same sensor as Olympus OM-D, its a very good choice at its price. You may start from Auto mode and later venture into manual mode. I think u'll like it. Maybe go have a hands on? The only drawback for compact user is its zoom level. the twin kit lens is not able to zoom as far as most of the compacts. You need extra lens to do so. But it all depends on your shooting requirement smile.gif
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yes...same sensor as OM-D, that word pop up in almost every review. Just it lack in video mode, right ? Any news or any promotion available for this EPL-5 currently..... Is that true stuff in penang is more cheap than kl ? how much different. ? Don't mind to buy/order from penang as long the warranty is nation wide ...that what a for friend for, right ...just need to have an address /shop name only...
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QUOTE(Jason @ Apr 16 2013, 01:22 PM)
Interested in EPM2 in white? Considering to let mine go and get an OMD instead...
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thank bro for the offer...since EPL-5 still within my budget, may be I go for it or pana..
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QUOTE(clubman @ Apr 17 2013, 11:51 PM)
yes...same sensor as OM-D, that word pop up in almost every review. Just it lack in video mode, right ? Any news or any promotion  available for this EPL-5 currently..... Is that true stuff in penang is more cheap  than kl ? how much different. ? Don't mind  to buy/order from penang as long the warranty is nation wide ...that what a for friend for, right ...just need to have an address /shop name only...
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You may survey shops at Sg Wang, Digital Mall and Mid Valley, so far I observe they have the lowest retail price.
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noob question here, is the photo quality of prime lens better or cctv lens better. coz i saw some cctv lens price very attractive.
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noob question here, is the photo quality of prime lens better or cctv lens better. coz i saw some cctv lens price very attractive.
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it depends on which prime lens bro, FYI cctv is also a prime lens.
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QUOTE(NISMOgan @ Apr 20 2013, 02:21 AM)
it depends on which prime lens bro, FYI cctv is also a prime lens.
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I think he means the old legacy prime lens. In general i guess. If im guessing correctly, he's basing the prices of legacy primes vs cctv, since cctv is about less than RM200, legacy primes RM200-300.

Ekestima and then it depends on which prime. But i would pick prime over cctv. I have no experience with cctv but if im not mistaken (sifus can correct me here) it hasa fixed aperture and only small part in the center is clear/focused while the rest is blown/blurred out like phone camera lomo effect. Prime is adjustable aperture and blurring depending on your focus so its not so limited.
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QUOTE(Mowgly @ Apr 20 2013, 09:15 AM)
I think he means the old legacy prime lens. In general i guess. If im guessing correctly, he's basing the prices of legacy primes vs cctv, since cctv is about less than RM200, legacy primes RM200-300.

Ekestima and then it depends on which prime. But i would pick prime over cctv. I have no experience with cctv but if im not mistaken (sifus can correct me here) it hasa fixed aperture and only small part in the center is clear/focused while the rest is blown/blurred out like phone camera lomo effect. Prime is adjustable aperture and blurring depending on your focus so its not so limited.
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how I can register my new EPL-5, try out using a function deliver by CD. The webpage give a below, message. In Olympus webpage, mention about extended 1+1 warranty & flash air card, but how to register for this ?

At least at the box, it have a sticker distributed by Olympus Malaysia...

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Like those Minolta Rokkor, Konica, Pentax, Olympus Zuiko, Tamron ?
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Looks familiar. U using micro 4/3 system too ? Might be we can meet up wink.gif
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Looks familiar. U using micro 4/3 system too ? Might be we can meet up wink.gif
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ya, I need to learn fr u, ur photos nice.
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Hi m34 sifus, all this while snapping photos with phone... wanna get in to m34 for its portability and flexibility (interchangeable lens)...

My budget is around RM1400 or so.

Was pitched with Oly E-PL2 and my personal choice GF5. Which one would you guys recommend? Or you guys have something better in mind? Thanks!

Purpose of the camera will be mainly for traveling, scenery, and with some occasional macro shots ( i like bugs too kenary820)..

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QUOTE(GameFr3ak @ Apr 24 2013, 12:59 AM)
Hi m34 sifus, all this while snapping photos with phone... wanna get in to m34 for its portability and flexibility (interchangeable lens)...

My budget is around RM1400 or so.

Was pitched with Oly E-PL2 and my personal choice GF5. Which one would you guys recommend? Or you guys have something better in mind? Thanks!

Purpose of the camera will be mainly for traveling, scenery, and with some occasional macro shots ( i like bugs too kenary820)..
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All these camera practically good, i would suggest you choose the one that feels right in your hand, my chose would be the one that give interface that allow me to work faster ie change the setting faster. Another thing a hot shoe wouls added advantage later on in case you need external flash which is very useful in many conditions. As macro goes, raynox with kitlens would do.
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QUOTE(kenary820 @ Apr 24 2013, 07:03 AM)
All these camera practically good, i would suggest you choose the one that feels right in your hand, my chose would be the one that give interface that allow me to work faster ie change the setting faster. Another thing a hot shoe wouls added advantage later on in case you need external flash which is very useful in many conditions. As macro goes, raynox with kitlens would do.
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Hmm I watched some reviews for GF5, and the GUI is simple and easy enough to change stuff quickly. But hotshoe is not included, only a built in flash.

EPL2 on the other hand, lacks 'features' like artsy filters and what not. But with better grip I guess and better IQ. It also has a hotshoe along with a built in flash.

God damn, I'm torn between the two.
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QUOTE(GameFr3ak @ Apr 24 2013, 07:59 AM)
Hmm I watched some reviews for GF5, and the GUI is simple and easy enough to change stuff quickly. But hotshoe is not included, only a built in flash.

EPL2 on the other hand, lacks 'features' like artsy filters and what not. But with better grip I guess and better IQ. It also has a hotshoe along with a built in flash.

God damn, I'm torn between the two.
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I personally have never used the filters on my Olympus EP-3 tongue.gif
Photoshop and Lightroom has wayyyyy better filters. hahaha

I obviously cant contribute anything since I'd be biased anyway, so good luck! go try the cameras out at the shop side by side if you need to. And bring a friend who knows a thing or two about camera, so at least you dont get cheated by the sales person. haha thumbup.gif
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I personally have never used the filters on my Olympus EP-3  tongue.gif
Photoshop and Lightroom has wayyyyy better filters. hahaha

I obviously cant contribute anything since I'd be biased anyway, so good luck! go try the cameras out at the shop side by side if you need to. And bring a friend who knows a thing or two about camera, so at least you dont get cheated by the sales person. haha  thumbup.gif
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How about this, what do you look for when you wanna buy a new m43 cam ? What would you prioritize when you make comparison between models/brands?

Thanks a heap!
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QUOTE(GameFr3ak @ Apr 24 2013, 12:59 AM)
Hi m34 sifus, all this while snapping photos with phone... wanna get in to m34 for its portability and flexibility (interchangeable lens)...

My budget is around RM1400 or so.

Was pitched with Oly E-PL2 and my personal choice GF5. Which one would you guys recommend? Or you guys have something better in mind? Thanks!

Purpose of the camera will be mainly for traveling, scenery, and with some occasional macro shots ( i like bugs too kenary820)..
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I personally think that you should go for GF5 since what you want is compact. Unless you really need the hot shoe then you might need to reconsider. I personally perfer GF5 cos its newer by few models compared to EPL2, AF is faster, a a bit more "enhancement" over EPL2. Unless you eyeing for EPL5, then i'll suggest EPL5. Personally I own a GF2 and now OM-D smile.gif Still no regrets having my GF2 those years hehe
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QUOTE(NISMOgan @ Apr 24 2013, 09:36 AM)
I personally think that you should go for GF5 since what you want is compact. Unless you really need the hot shoe then you might need to reconsider. I personally perfer GF5 cos its newer by few models compared to EPL2, AF is faster, a a bit more "enhancement" over EPL2. Unless you eyeing for EPL5, then i'll suggest EPL5. Personally I own a GF2 and now OM-D smile.gif Still no regrets having my GF2 those years hehe
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Holycrap OM-D drool.gif I would love other choices if you could throw them at me, but budget is one of my main concern. RM1500 or so only. Could you pitch me a few within the budget so I could research more on them on top of GF5?

And is IQ score of 55 vs 50 a big deal on DXOMark?

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QUOTE(GameFr3ak @ Apr 24 2013, 09:56 AM)
Holycrap OM-D  drool.gif  I would love other choices if you could throw them at me, but budget is one of my main concern. RM1500 or so only. Could you pitch me a few within the budget so I could research more on them on top of GF5?

And is IQ score of 55 vs 50 a big deal on DXOMark?

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erm lately i`m not so updated about the prices bro sorry for that hehe, how about EP3? As i know its quite a leap in from the previous machine. GF5 with twin lens is quite a deal if u dont mind working without hotshoe? GX1 is slightly over ur budget else that would be a perfect one! serious model b4 GX1 was GF1 and 2 but their ISO limitation is quite low, for me acceptable up to 800 only which is quite ok la. I`m a Panny guy previously, just jumped into Olympus so I`m not so sure about its deal too much tongue.gif GF2 is also quite cheap nowadays within your budget.

About DXOMark, I personally did not rely these figures to make decision, usually I read user reviews, look at unedited pic quality and try it for myself hehe.

Maybe Sifus around here can help him about DXO?
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QUOTE(NISMOgan @ Apr 24 2013, 10:41 AM)
erm lately i`m not so updated about the prices bro sorry for that hehe, how about EP3? As i know its quite a leap in from the previous machine. GF5 with twin lens is quite a deal if u dont mind working without hotshoe? GX1 is slightly over ur budget else that would be a perfect one! serious model b4 GX1 was GF1 and 2 but their ISO limitation is quite low, for me acceptable up to 800 only which is quite ok la. I`m a Panny guy previously, just jumped into Olympus so I`m not so sure about its deal too much tongue.gif GF2 is also quite cheap nowadays within your budget.

About DXOMark, I personally did not rely these figures to make decision, usually I read user reviews, look at unedited pic quality and try it for myself hehe.

Maybe Sifus around here can help him about DXO?
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Hey thanks! What I found so far.

GF5 - RM1400 (twin lens)
EPL5 - Olympus E-PL5 ( 14-42MM F3.5-5.6 II R LENS ) RM 2169
EPM2 - no info on price
EP3 - Olympus E-P3 14-42mm kit FOC:8GB SD =RM2180


Sorry for asking too much, what do you think of E-PL3?


Seems like most of them are out of my reach.
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QUOTE(GameFr3ak @ Apr 24 2013, 11:49 AM)
Hey thanks! What I found so far.

GF5 - RM1400 (twin lens)
EPL5 - Olympus E-PL5 ( 14-42MM F3.5-5.6 II R LENS ) RM 2169
EPM2 - no info on price
EP3 - Olympus E-P3 14-42mm kit FOC:8GB SD =RM2180
Sorry for asking too much, what do you think of E-PL3?
Seems like most of them are out of my reach.
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Oops honestly i did not research on EPL3, so cant advise bro sad.gif of cos i would prefer EPL5 most since its same sensor as OM-D tongue.gif but since it exceed your budget, I guess the latest tech vs buck = GF5? hmmmmm or maybe get a 2nd unit if you dont mind?
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Go for gf5 and start enjoy shooting hehe..what body doesnt matter actually..what matter most the lens smile.gif
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QUOTE(NISMOgan @ Apr 24 2013, 12:12 PM)
Oops honestly i did not research on EPL3, so cant advise bro sad.gif of cos i would prefer EPL5 most since its same sensor as OM-D tongue.gif but since it exceed your budget, I guess the latest tech vs buck = GF5? hmmmmm or maybe get a 2nd unit if you dont mind?
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Found one selling at RM1600, (Lens 14-42mm f3.5-5.6 II R , flash FL-LM1 , charger , cable). No more warranty. hmm.gif

QUOTE(kenary820 @ Apr 24 2013, 12:20 PM)
Go for gf5 and start enjoy shooting hehe..what body doesnt matter actually..what matter most the lens smile.gif
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Really or not lol but is hotshoe really an important factor ar? To be honest, I have never really used an actual flash before. If yes, then I might consider E-pl3. If not, I might get GF5.
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QUOTE(GameFr3ak @ Apr 24 2013, 11:49 AM)
Hey thanks! What I found so far.

GF5 - RM1400 (twin lens)
EPL5 - Olympus E-PL5 ( 14-42MM F3.5-5.6 II R LENS ) RM 2169
EPM2 - no info on price
EP3 - Olympus E-P3 14-42mm kit FOC:8GB SD =RM2180
Sorry for asking too much, what do you think of E-PL3?
Seems like most of them are out of my reach.
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Initially I was aiming for Olympus, but when I compare its price wif gf5 I got GF5 due to its price, comes wif twin lens. Ody start shoting and enjoying it. for gf5 u save on buying star filter and soft filter, coz its got built in prog. I bought CPL n +10Macro only.
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QUOTE(ekestima @ Apr 24 2013, 12:33 PM)
Initially I was aiming for Olympus, but when I compare its price wif gf5 I got GF5 due to its price, comes wif twin lens. Ody start shoting and enjoying it. for gf5 u save on buying star filter and soft filter, coz its got built in prog. I bought CPL n  +10Macro only.
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Hey thanks for the feedback. Which Oly were you aiming for ? I'm still liking the GF5 a lot to be honest. I'm a sucker of these 'features'.
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QUOTE(GameFr3ak @ Apr 24 2013, 11:49 AM)
Hey thanks! What I found so far.

GF5 - RM1400 (twin lens)
EPL5 - Olympus E-PL5 ( 14-42MM F3.5-5.6 II R LENS ) RM 2169
EPM2 - no info on price
EP3 - Olympus E-P3 14-42mm kit FOC:8GB SD =RM2180
Sorry for asking too much, what do you think of E-PL3?
Seems like most of them are out of my reach.
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i got my EPL-5 twin lens for 2499 but after add in 8gb class 10 (+rm95) + suns lens (green) filter cup ( +rm280) + screen protecter (free) it pricess goes to 2874 ....and other goodies with not important

the shop claim currently the have EPL3 promotion, single lens below rm 1000 and twin lens will be rm 1600.
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QUOTE(GameFr3ak @ Apr 24 2013, 12:59 AM)
Hi m34 sifus, all this while snapping photos with phone... wanna get in to m34 for its portability and flexibility (interchangeable lens)...

My budget is around RM1400 or so.

Was pitched with Oly E-PL2 and my personal choice GF5. Which one would you guys recommend? Or you guys have something better in mind? Thanks!

Purpose of the camera will be mainly for traveling, scenery, and with some occasional macro shots ( i like bugs too kenary820)..
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I'll choose Oly E-PL3 over GF-5..

E-PL3 pros -

1. In body stabilizer (All lens without optical image stabilizer will benefit from it including the legacy manual ones)
2. Tiltable lcd (For extreme angle shoot)
3. Hot shoe (U will need it sooner or later esp for better macro shoot with external flash) and for mounting EVF..
4. Dedicated manual control button for fast control setting
5. More focus point and faster focus speed
6. Olympus punchy OOC jpeg.. (If dont like to shoot in raw and post processing)

GF5 pros -

1. Touch screen with touch to focus and shoot.. Very handy for point focus
2. A little bit better sensor
3. Built in flash

I even recommended my sis to get the E-PL3.. thumbup.gif

hope this will help.. icon_rolleyes.gif

latest E-PL3 price - Olympus EPL3 ( 14-42MM F3.5-5.6 LENS ) RM 1259 CASH FOC SD 8G @ digitalfm14 (lyn seller.. Shop located next to DigitallMall PJ

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My sister in action shooting macro with her new Olympus E-PL3.. Feel free to drop at her flickr page..smile.gif http://www.flickr.com/photos/94742744@N07/

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QUOTE(reno7 @ Apr 24 2013, 02:44 PM)
I'll choose Oly E-PL3 over GF-5..

E-PL3 pros -

1. In body stabilizer (All lens without optical image stabilizer will benefit from it including the legacy manual ones)
2. Tiltable lcd (For extreme angle shoot)
3. Hot shoe (U will need it sooner or later esp for better macro shoot with external flash) and for mounting EVF..
4. Dedicated manual control button for fast control setting
5. More focus point and faster focus speed
6. Olympus punchy OOC jpeg.. (If dont like to shoot in raw and post processing)

GF5 pros -

1. Touch screen with touch to focus and shoot.. Very handy for point focus
2. A little bit better sensor
3. Built in flash

I even recommended my sis to get the E-PL3..  thumbup.gif

hope this will help..  icon_rolleyes.gif

latest E-PL3 price - Olympus EPL3 ( 14-42MM F3.5-5.6 LENS ) RM 1259 CASH FOC SD 8G @ digitalfm14 (lyn seller.. Shop located next to DigitallMall PJ
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My sister in action taking macro with he new Olympus E-PL3.. Just drop by her flickr page..smile.gif http://www.flickr.com/photos/94742744@N07/

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Very impressive! Did she used a macro lens?
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Very impressive! Did she used a macro lens?
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I lend her my OMD kitlens cause it has macro mode. But now she has the raynox macro converter already. Just attached to her E-PL3 kitlens.. smile.gif
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QUOTE(reno7 @ Apr 24 2013, 03:12 PM)
I lend her my OMD kitlens cause it has macro mode. But now she has the raynox macro converter already. Just attached to her E-PL3 kitlens.. smile.gif
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Nice. Now I'll just have to find some night shots. As I need to take decent night shots.
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QUOTE(GameFr3ak @ Apr 24 2013, 12:28 PM)
Found one selling at RM1600, (Lens 14-42mm f3.5-5.6 II R , flash FL-LM1 , charger , cable). No more warranty.  hmm.gif
Really or not lol but is hotshoe really an important factor ar? To be honest, I have never really used an actual flash before. If yes, then I might consider E-pl3. If not, I might get GF5.
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if u r particular about warranty and the condition, better get new one (at least to me i am particular cos camera and lens is a precision item). About hot shoe, you can mount a electronic view finder, flash, remote shutter, etc. To me if you ask Flash, so for i did not use, cos with proper setting you can take picture in a not so well lit environment. Of cos see how dark is it, plus your hand (steady or not) and also your lens capability. I would say the Ori 14mm f2.5 is quite enough
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Or just buy the GF-5 twin lens kit for the time being and when time and money comes simply upgrade the body later but still keep the good lens from panasonic like the 14mmf2.5.. smile.gif

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Or just buy the GF-5 twin lens kit for the time being and when time and money comes simply upgrade the body later but still keep the good lens from panasonic like the 14mmf2.5.. smile.gif
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yeah agreed with u bro, thats what i do with my GF2 now hahaha, its also a good learning curve
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QUOTE(reno7 @ Apr 24 2013, 03:44 PM)
Or just buy the GF-5 twin lens kit for the time being and when time and money comes simply upgrade the body later but still keep the good lens from panasonic like the 14mmf2.5.. smile.gif
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yeah agreed with u bro, thats what i do with my GF2 now hahaha, its also a good learning curve
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Yeah, it hit me just now when people said that it's all about the 'glass'. Get a decent & affordable body and invest more on lens that'll last a lot longer. I'll either get E-PL3 or GF5 as my starting cam in to M43.

Thanks ALL ! rclxms.gif

Now.... to read about what lens do what... rclxub.gif
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How's Olympus E-PM1 or EPL3 for video? Can it control exposure, aperture, iso and focus during video? And does it overheat?

I hear Panasonic GF5 cant control much.
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How's Olympus E-PM1 or EPL3 for video?  Can it control exposure, aperture, iso and focus during video?  And does it overheat?

I hear Panasonic GF5 cant control much.
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buy..buy..hehe..if you really calculate the body is cheap compare to the lens..so no wory..go to shop buy which feel nice in your hand..camera is just a tool..save money but better lens later.
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kenary820 bro, when is ur next trip to Kuching? If u come here again we can go shooting together with ekestima.. This will be very exciting... happy.gif
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kenary820 bro, when is ur next trip to Kuching? If u come here again we can go shooting together with ekestima.. This will be very exciting...  happy.gif
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duno yet...wonder the exciting part hehe..
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I read some comparison, GF5 seems better for video.
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Alright guys, since I've reduced my list to just 2.

EPL3 RM1399 - (14-42 II, 16gb class 10 and bag) add on RM500 for an extra (40-150mm)

GF5 RM1400 - (twin lens, 14mm & 14-42mm, 8GB + Bag)

Which looks like a better deal ar?
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QUOTE(GameFr3ak @ Apr 24 2013, 10:17 PM)
Alright guys, since I've reduced my list to just 2.

EPL3  RM1399 - (14-42 II, 16gb class 10 and bag) add on RM500 for an extra (40-150mm)

GF5 RM1400 - (twin lens, 14mm & 14-42mm, 8GB + Bag)

Which looks like a better deal ar?
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If u lazy to shoot raw and post processing, go for the oly-good ooc jpeg.. If u like shooting indoors in low light, go for pana.. Or.. get the oly single kitlens and the xtra rm500 can buy 2nd hand pana14mmf2.5..
Just my opinion.. smile.gif
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QUOTE(reno7 @ Apr 24 2013, 10:41 PM)
If u lazy to shoot raw and post processing, go for the oly-good ooc jpeg.. If u like shooting indoors in low light, go for pana.. Or.. get the oly single kitlens and the xtra rm500 can buy 2nd hand pana14mmf2.5..
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Juz try them out urself. I believe everyone starts out wif basic. U can buy urself top notch cam, but if u dun have the technic or knowledge of control the photos will be the same as pns cam.
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QUOTE(GameFr3ak @ Apr 24 2013, 09:26 AM)
How about this, what do you look for when you wanna buy a new m43 cam ?  What would you prioritize when you make comparison between models/brands?

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For me, I got the EP3 because it felt better to me. tongue.gif more technically it was THE or at least one of the fastest AF at that time, fair noise control when ISO was up and it looked way cooler than the EP-Lite series biggrin.gif

I never really compared it to the Lumix, one of the reasons is the screen reso. Lumix on screen was not as sharp/clear as the olympus. Obviously when both are viewed through a PC screen or printed is what counts, but still i wouldnt want to have to remind myself "it looks better on PC" everytime i check my photos on cam after i took them.

As I wanted a DSLR instead of an M43 initially, but i had budget problems, i wanted something as close to a DSLR as possible. Having a hotshoe is definitely a plus since it now makes my EP3 just as versatile as any DSLR. I've just gotten a new lens, my next purchase will be a flash. Especially if you're still in the early stages of photography, having an OPTION is always better than having none.

Side note,
if you could stretch a little and dont mind buying online or from dealers instead, there's an EP3 set going for RM1700 in garage sales. Dealer says its new. Another is going for same price, 2nd hand EP3 with twin lens. Look it up!
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Im feeling Panoramic today.
(disclaimer : view in full screen, looks like crap resized cry.gif )

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Im feeling Panoramic today.
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nice coror, this crop or stitch?
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Date: Saturday, May 11, 2013
Time: 8:30:00 AM - 12:00:00 PM

Session B
Date: Saturday, May 11, 2013
Time: 1:30:00 PM - 5:00:00 PM

Venue: Omni Studio (Lot 18-1, Jalan PJU 7/16, Mutiara Damansara)
GPS Coordinate: 3.159842,101.603537
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post Apr 28 2013, 09:47 PM

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Issit ok if we use Micro SD card for Digiccam ? or we really need to use normal SD card ? Coz considering getting s Micro SD UHS1 (Sandisk Ultra).
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Even the fastest micro-sd is still a bit slow.
If ur shooting burst or raw, I suggest going with faster sdhc/sdxc uhs1 cards.

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Alright I've got the Oly E-PL3, twin lens. Spent the whole night learning the camera with the 14-42 MKIIR lens. Got a hang of it, but have to get used to the settings.

Tested its capability of capturing night landscape without a tripod. Managed to get a decent IQ.

Impressed.
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QUOTE(GameFr3ak @ Apr 29 2013, 07:53 AM)
Alright I've got the Oly E-PL3, twin lens. Spent the whole night learning the camera with the 14-42 MKIIR lens. Got a hang of it, but have to get used to the settings.

Tested its capability of capturing night landscape without a tripod. Managed to get a decent IQ.

Impressed.
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Congratulations.. rclxms.gif Finally u bought the E-PL3.. thumbup.gif
Put Raynox 250 on ur second lens the 40-150mm and u are good to go on macro shooting.. brows.gif

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Taken Sunday evening, went for a photowalk with my kakis. This was just before the storm, slight drizzle had already begun and I quickly got 6 shots to stitch into a big ass panorama. 2 rows, 3 columns.

Excuse the amount of noise, was shooting indoors in very poor lighting just before we got to the roof, so was shooting at ISO 3200. Completely forgot to reset the ISO settings cause I was too excited when I got to the roof. Regrets regrets cry.gif

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post Apr 30 2013, 02:18 PM

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QUOTE(reno7 @ Apr 29 2013, 08:21 PM)
Congratulations..  rclxms.gif  Finally u bought the E-PL3..  thumbup.gif
Put Raynox 250 on ur second lens the 40-150mm and u are good to go on macro shooting..  brows.gif
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Hey thanks man. Have not thought about making any purchase yet. Still figuring the ways to max out both lens before considering. Prolly just gonna get a tripod for night landscapes.

Forcing myself to use Manual as well just to figure out how to balance aperture, ISO and shutter speed for different situation.

I have a simple question (I think), I understand 14-42 is best for landscapes for its wide angle and wide aperture. I've tried on the 40-150, it has great zoom and stuff but I couldn't get a hang of using it under low light condition.

So guys, in what situation would you use 40-150? For zooming? Like birds and animals?
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QUOTE(GameFr3ak @ Apr 30 2013, 02:18 PM)
Hey thanks man. Have not thought about making any purchase yet. Still figuring the ways to max out both lens before considering. Prolly just gonna get a tripod for night landscapes.

Forcing myself to use Manual as well just to figure out how to balance aperture, ISO and shutter speed for different situation.

I have a simple question (I think), I understand 14-42 is best for landscapes for its wide angle and wide aperture. I've tried on the 40-150, it has great zoom and stuff but I couldn't get a hang of using it under low light condition.

So guys, in what situation would you use 40-150? For zooming? Like birds and animals?
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Telephoto zoom lens are usually an outdoor lens.

Can be used for outdoor portraits also. The higher the focal length the nicer and flatter the face.

As for low light there are 3 options to deal with it: Flash (External flash with diffuser), low aperture like F1.8-F2.8, high ISO. Or you can just bring your own light box/lamp and light the place up!
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QUOTE(Rice_Owl84 @ Apr 30 2013, 02:45 PM)
Telephoto zoom lens are usually an outdoor lens. 

Can be used for outdoor portraits also.  The higher the focal length the nicer and flatter the face. 

As for low light there are 3 options to deal with it:  Flash (External flash with diffuser), low aperture like F1.8-F2.8, high ISO.  Or you can just bring your own light box/lamp and light the place up!
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Yeah I kinda noticed the distortion if I use 14-42 for some portraits. For night shots, to my understanding, it is best to keep the ISO as low as possible and compensate with aperture lowest F-value and long shutter speed right?

Not really much a fan of flash, unless maybe as fill in light laugh.gif but still learning notworthy.gif
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post Apr 30 2013, 07:18 PM

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I m oso new in this field. any one used prime lens ? i mean manual lens, those old timer one. add on adapter. thinking of geting one.
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QUOTE(GameFr3ak @ Apr 30 2013, 03:11 PM)
Yeah I kinda noticed the distortion if I use 14-42 for some portraits. For night shots, to my understanding, it is best to keep the ISO as low as possible and compensate with aperture lowest F-value and long shutter speed right?

Not really much a fan of flash, unless maybe as fill in light  laugh.gif  but still learning  notworthy.gif
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ISO as low as possible is true for all situations, night or day, as you'd want to keep the noise to a minimal. But it has to be bumped up if there is low light available.

Hypothetical situation :: In this case lets say your kitlens with the widest (lowest F-value) aperture is f/3.5, and your shutter at that point in time is 1/15sec with ISO at 100. If your subject is moving, 1/15sec wont get you much of a decent shot, cause of the long shutter and movement. So you bump ISO up to say 800 and maybe get a 1/64sec, which of course would be better than before. Of course it will always help if you have a wider aperture like f/1.4. But!....

....If you need depth of field, so small (large f-value) apertures like f/14 may require a shutter speed too long for you to hold with your hands, or moving object. So you'd have to compensate with bumping ISOs. At least from the way I see it, you can never run away from bumping up the ISO unless its a planned shot, like night landscapes with tripods.

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post Apr 30 2013, 11:34 PM

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QUOTE(Mowgly @ Apr 30 2013, 08:15 PM)
ISO as low as possible is true for all situations, night or day, as you'd want to keep the noise to a minimal. But it has to be bumped up if there is low light available.

Hypothetical situation :: In this case lets say your kitlens with the widest (lowest F-value) aperture is f/3.5, and your shutter at that point in time is 1/15sec with ISO at 100. If your subject is moving, 1/15sec wont get you much of a decent shot, cause of the long shutter and movement. So you bump ISO up to say 800 and maybe get a 1/64sec, which of course would be better than before. Of course it will always help if you have a wider aperture like f/1.4. But!....

....If you need depth of field, so small (large f-value) apertures like f/14 may require a shutter speed too long for you to hold with your hands, or moving object. So you'd have to compensate with bumping ISOs. At least from the way I see it, you can never run away from bumping up the ISO unless its a planned shot, like night landscapes with tripods. 

Hope this helps!  thumbup.gif 
any sifus can correct me if i put down anything wrong.  tongue.gif
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Thanks for the info and guidance, especially the hypothetical situation. I'm starting straight from M mode to get a hang of it. What you're saying does make sense but I guess this is where flash comes in handy if i don't wanna add grain to my shot. And am I right that I can speed up the shutter speed with flash so the shot would be sharp and bright?

I've taken loads of photos of random stuff to learn and only these 3 are which I think is acceptable. Please do critique and advise what I should do to improve these shots. Thanks!

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i think better use tripod..

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QUOTE(GameFr3ak @ Apr 30 2013, 11:34 PM)
Thanks for the info and guidance, especially the hypothetical situation. I'm starting straight from M mode to get a hang of it. What you're saying does make sense but I guess this is where flash comes in handy if i don't wanna add grain to my shot. And am I right that I can speed up the shutter speed with flash so the shot would be sharp and bright?

I've taken loads of photos of random stuff to learn and only these 3 are which I think is acceptable. Please do critique and advise what I should do to improve these shots. Thanks!
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or use higher iso.. smile.gif
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QUOTE(reno7 @ May 1 2013, 01:40 AM)
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QUOTE(kenary820 @ May 1 2013, 01:44 PM)
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Amazing!

When? Where? using what? what settings? drool.gif
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E-PL3 price for basic kit is at 1,499 with free bag and 8gig MC. Is this the current price right now or are there cheaper stores?
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QUOTE(Mowgly @ May 2 2013, 02:44 PM)
Amazing!

When? Where? using what? what settings?  drool.gif
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This in Miri, click on the photo can see the setting smile.gif
Thats how flickr works.
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QUOTE(Mowgly @ May 2 2013, 02:44 PM)
Amazing!

When? Where? using what? what settings?  drool.gif
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This in Miri, click on the photo can see the setting smile.gif
Thats how flickr works.
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QUOTE(Mowgly @ May 2 2013, 02:44 PM)
Amazing!

When? Where? using what? what settings?  drool.gif
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This in Miri, click on the photo can see the setting smile.gif
Thats how flickr works.
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QUOTE(Mowgly @ May 2 2013, 02:44 PM)
Amazing!

When? Where? using what? what settings?  drool.gif
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This in Miri, click on the photo can see the setting smile.gif
Thats how flickr works.
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QUOTE(kenary820 @ May 2 2013, 08:32 PM)
This in Miri, click on the photo can see the setting smile.gif
Thats how flickr works.
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I know can check on flickr,
But bro...

"– No camera info
Error loading EXIF : Permission denied"

How?
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QUOTE(Mowgly @ May 3 2013, 09:06 AM)
I know can check on flickr,
But bro...

"– No camera info
Error loading EXIF : Permission denied"

How?
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woops..sowry..
Exif: Pana 14mm, f5.6, 1/25s, iso400
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Bro looks like the dof too shallow, I would like to suggest get all in focus get as much details as you can and pp kaw2 add fire hehe
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QUOTE(kenary820 @ May 4 2013, 03:27 PM)
Bro looks like the dof too shallow, I would like to suggest get all in focus get as much details as you can and pp kaw2 add fire hehe
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Thanks for the comments @kenary820!! I really appreciate that. Since my shutter speed is already at its minimum (1/80) in handheld I can't stand still for even much longer to take a sharper picture. I use a cheap LED light for this picture and ISO at 200. Maybe I will try a much 'detail' picture next time!
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QUOTE(merajey @ May 4 2013, 07:02 PM)
Thanks for the comments @kenary820!! I really appreciate that. Since my shutter speed is already at its minimum (1/80) in handheld I can't stand still for even much longer to take a sharper picture. I use a cheap LED light for this picture and ISO at 200. Maybe I will try a much 'detail' picture next time!
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This can be done on the table right, pile up your books as camera stand if you don't have tripod. Hope it works hehe..
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505 Mont Kiara Sunset
The sky flaunted its beauty, but everyone else was too busy watching tv.

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QUOTE(Mowgly @ May 6 2013, 08:01 PM)
505 Mont Kiara Sunset
The sky flaunted its beauty, but everyone else was too busy watching tv.

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hmm..seems like some vibration affecting the photo sweat.gif
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QUOTE(kenary820 @ May 6 2013, 09:46 PM)
hmm..seems like some vibration affecting the photo sweat.gif
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actually, in the real file none. dont know why flickr's upload make it look like got vibration. i also notice. sigh... kenot la like this. sad.gif
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E-PL3 price for basic kit is at 1,499 with free bag and 8gig MC. Is this the current price right now or are there cheaper stores?
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Yes, I bought mine one at YL pudu , rm1290 inclucded bag n 8gig MC.
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guys, im thinking of upgrading to OMD from my old GF1.. do u think it is better to buy OMD with kit lens or just the body? I have in my arsenal a pana 20mm and a 14-42mm.. might consider a samyang 7.5mm in the near future.. just how good is the oly 12-50mm compared to my pana 14-42mm? thanks smile.gif
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QUOTE(yop da great @ May 8 2013, 03:17 AM)
guys, im thinking of upgrading to OMD from my old GF1.. do u think it is better to buy OMD with kit lens or just the body? I have in my arsenal a pana 20mm and a 14-42mm.. might consider a samyang 7.5mm in the near future.. just how good is the oly 12-50mm compared to my pana 14-42mm? thanks smile.gif
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Better get the body only and save some budget for the samyang.. The 12-50 cannot beat the 14-42 in terms on sharpness... smile.gif.. Or u can wait for the upcoming ep5.. More features than omd only without built in evf...

http://m43blog.com/wp-content/uploads/2013...mpus_ep5_08.jpg

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what is the market price for FL-600R??
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Last I check RM950...should be around that now.
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Hi, I'm new here. I would like to seek some professional advice on lens adapters.

I have a GF3 and my sister have a AF-S Nikkor 70-200mm lens. Any recommendation on what adapters should I get so I could use that lens on my micro 4/3?

Does the adapter for J1 works on a GF3?

Thanks.
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QUOTE(faidz85 @ May 8 2013, 09:41 AM)
Last I check RM950...should be around that now.
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Seremban..the shop that quoted me that is DY Divine which is in Digital Mall PJ.

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QUOTE(Akidora @ May 8 2013, 10:57 AM)
Hi, I'm new here. I would like to seek some professional advice on lens adapters.

I have a GF3 and my sister have a AF-S Nikkor 70-200mm lens. Any recommendation on what adapters should I get so I could use that lens on my micro 4/3?

Does the adapter for J1 works on a GF3?

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hi bro i`m not professional but the J1 adapter sure not compatible with GF3.
U need to get another for m43 to Nikkor lenses, then it will only focus manually.
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QUOTE(reno7 @ May 8 2013, 09:18 AM)
Better get the body only and save some budget for the samyang.. The 12-50 cannot beat the 14-42 in terms on sharpness... smile.gif.. Or u can wait for the upcoming ep5.. More features than omd only without built in evf...

http://m43blog.com/wp-content/uploads/2013...mpus_ep5_08.jpg
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it looks nice! but price sure high rocket.. maybe i'll just snatch omd when the ep5 has come to the market.. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(mont0417 @ May 7 2013, 07:38 PM)
Yes, I bought mine one at YL pudu , rm1290 inclucded bag n 8gig MC.
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Is this with official Olympus warranty? Hmmm does anyone know where I can buy through CC installment?
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QUOTE(ianthensome @ May 8 2013, 05:00 PM)
Is this with official Olympus warranty? Hmmm does anyone know where I can buy through CC installment?
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20mm? poison...runaway hehe
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Next time I go to KL u can ask me to buy on behalf of u if its soo poisoning smile.gif

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Guys, anyone going to the Olympus PEN event this sat? biggrin.gif
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Guys, anyone going to the Olympus PEN event this sat? biggrin.gif
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ME! Session B smile.gif
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Same! I didnt realize it was a Prod unveiling, i thought it would be something like Canon with talks and tips, and opportunity to take pics. lol

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I am thinking to get into m4/3 for shooting macro. My hand felt really pain after holding my dslr for long time during shooting macro and i had some problem balancing the camera, not sure why. with a budget around 1.5k, can i get a body + lens that is capable of shooting macro?
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I am thinking to get into m4/3 for shooting macro. My hand felt really pain after holding my dslr for long time during shooting macro and i had some problem balancing the camera, not sure why. with a budget around 1.5k, can i get a body + lens that is capable of shooting macro?
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very hard bro with 1.5k to get both. unless its not a native lens still possible.
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QUOTE(Mowgly @ May 9 2013, 12:09 PM)
Same! I didnt realize it was a Prod unveiling, i thought it would be something like Canon with talks and tips, and opportunity to take pics. lol
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Saturday Session, so I guess, should be "A" kua...
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I am thinking to get into m4/3 for shooting macro. My hand felt really pain after holding my dslr for long time during shooting macro and i had some problem balancing the camera, not sure why. with a budget around 1.5k, can i get a body + lens that is capable of shooting macro?
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The native macro lens itself is already rm1.5k to rm2.4k..
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QUOTE(mingyuyu @ May 9 2013, 09:22 PM)
I am thinking to get into m4/3 for shooting macro. My hand felt really pain after holding my dslr for long time during shooting macro and i had some problem balancing the camera, not sure why. with a budget around 1.5k, can i get a body + lens that is capable of shooting macro?
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QUOTE(reno7 @ May 10 2013, 12:52 PM)
The native macro lens itself is already rm1.5k to rm2.4k..
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Just show him what he can get for his budget and see if he likes it:

Olympus E-PL3 14-42mm single lens kit RM 1,190.00
Meike FC100 Macro LED Ring Flash RM 180.00
Macro Tubes For M43 RM 55.00
Flexible Tripod 3Kg (Gorillapod Knockoff) RM 55.00

RM 1,480.00

You can also option to upgrade for Olympus E-PL3 14-42mm + 40-150mm twin lens kit for RM 1790. You can also check out panasonic GF3/5 and maybe you want that 14mm pancake lens too from the twin kit sets. Another option is Raynox instead of macro tubes.

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whaa it is surely tempting.. but i think performance wise, still same as OMD.. only improvement is the shutter speed that could go up to 1/8000. Do u think its worth to pay the extra bucks for wifi and some other gadgets? hmmm not sure if I should wait for ep5 or just buy the now cheaper omd hmm.gif
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QUOTE(yop da great @ May 10 2013, 05:49 PM)
whaa it is surely tempting.. but i think performance wise, still same as OMD.. only improvement is the shutter speed that could go up to 1/8000. Do u think its worth to pay the extra bucks for wifi and some other gadgets? hmmm not sure if I should wait for ep5 or just buy the now cheaper omd  hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Rice_Owl84 @ May 10 2013, 04:06 PM)
Just show him what he can get for his budget and see if he likes it:

Olympus E-PL3 14-42mm single lens kit  RM 1,190.00
Meike FC100 Macro LED Ring Flash          RM 180.00
Macro Tubes For M43                                  RM 55.00
Flexible Tripod 3Kg (Gorillapod Knockoff)      RM 55.00

                                                                RM 1,480.00

You can also option to upgrade for Olympus E-PL3 14-42mm + 40-150mm twin lens kit for RM 1790.  You can also check out panasonic GF3/5 and maybe you want that 14mm pancake lens too from the twin kit sets.  Another option is Raynox instead of macro tubes.
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Comparing the panasonic and olympus, which system is better? they are quite similar right?
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QUOTE(mingyuyu @ May 10 2013, 05:59 PM)
Comparing the panasonic and olympus, which system is better? they are quite similar right?
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Both system have its pros and cons..

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QUOTE(mingyuyu @ May 10 2013, 05:59 PM)
Comparing the panasonic and olympus, which system is better? they are quite similar right?
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They share the same m43 system at 2x crop factor. They can use each other's lenses and have no problem with each others' lens AF.

People say Olympus has the edge becuase they have IS in their body. Olympus has built in sensor image stabilization which is a bonus edge feature when using prime lenses. For Panasonic this is not a big problem. Panasonic zoom lenses come with IS and prime lenses are fast enough to not need it.

The difference are the camera features for each model.

Let's compare GF5 twin kit lens with Epl3 twin kit lens:

-GF5 is more suitable as a travel camera. Built in flash and pancake lens means you can make this whole package pocketable. This is basically a travel m43 on the go. (Built in flash, pan cake lens)

-Epl3 twin set has more covered focal range with that telephoto zoom lens. It has a hot shoe to get more serious flash lighting. Its more versatile but its no pcoketable. But is small enough to not take up half your back pack like a DSLR. (Hot shoe, Telephoto Zoom)


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QUOTE(mingyuyu @ May 9 2013, 09:22 PM)
I am thinking to get into m4/3 for shooting macro. My hand felt really pain after holding my dslr for long time during shooting macro and i had some problem balancing the camera, not sure why. with a budget around 1.5k, can i get a body + lens that is capable of shooting macro?
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Lazy to shoot raw, get the oly for its punchy ooc jpeg.. Epl3 kit flash is not too big either.. smile.gif
I've posted the comparisons between the two cameras earlier in the post.. https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2731512/+200#

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QUOTE(reno7 @ May 10 2013, 07:14 PM)
Lazy to shoot raw, get the oly for its punchy ooc jpeg.. Epl3 kit flash is not too big either.. smile.gif
I've posted the comparisons between the two cameras earlier in the post.. https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2731512/+200#
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I am going to shoot raw because I know how powerful a raw file is tongue.gif how about the IQ? won't differ by a lot right? the sensor in the epl3 isn't the same as the epl5? yeah, the hot shoe would be a big advantage compared to gf5.
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QUOTE(mingyuyu @ May 10 2013, 08:28 PM)
I am going to shoot raw because I know how powerful a raw file is tongue.gif how about the IQ? won't differ by a lot right? the sensor in the epl3 isn't the same as the epl5? yeah, the hot shoe would be a big advantage compared to gf5.
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A Versus Canon perspective of describing what the IQ might look like on EPL3 and EPL5:

GF5/Epl3 is a 12Mp has similar IQ to Canon G15. GF3 was described to be like a LX5 that can change lens. If you don’t ever plan to build m43 system/lenses you might be better off having an enthusiast compact that can fit in your pocket. A canon G15 can add macro lens filter and be very macro capable.

GF6 and EPL5 is a 16Mp that has IQ similar to Canon EOS crop sensor cameras. EPL5 is using OMD’s 16Mp sensor. This sensor was described to be equivalent to Canon’s DSLR crop sensor. It’s a new powerful sensor but these also cost similar to DSLR price range. M43 lenses are also just as expensive as DSLR lenses. These are the cameras that make EOS M look so damn slow. EOS fails at Live view AF while M43 has a fast accurate Live View AF.

Epl3 vs epl5 quite a difference in performance but so is the price (close to RM 1000 in price difference). You pay for what you get.

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Attended the "OLYMPUS NEW premiums PEN - Touch & Try Event (11th May 2013 - Session A)" this morning.
Overall okay event, showcasing the new Olympus PEN E-P5.

There was a presso on the new PEN, some hands-on booths to play around with the E-P5, a small technology showcase on the IBIS and SWD functions.
Ming Thein was also there to give a brief talk on M4/3rds and the new PEN in general.
He also did a brief demo product shoot of the E-P5 with an E-P5 (of course) with straight OOC capture and printing.
Results were quite good.

You can check out some pics taken at the event below...
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i want let go vivitar macro 55mm and minolta mc pf 58mm f1.4, all minolta mount
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back from Olympus EP-5 event, really really amazed by the 5-axis stabilization and the wireless features that has to offered by the new camera though too bad it doesn't has a built-in vf but have to buy one for RM400+

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Hello everyone, I am selling my newly released (just arrived Malaysia last week) - Panasonic Lumix G VARIO 14-42mm f/3.5-5.6 II HD Lens FOC Hoya UV filter. The build quality of this lens is comparable with Pany 12-35mm and it's sooooooooooooo tiny. Interested please have a look at smile.gif

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2808648
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Nak tanya sifus... how do you all get correct WB ? Grass? white card?
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QUOTE(GameFr3ak @ May 12 2013, 12:23 PM)
Nak tanya sifus... how do you all get correct WB ? Grass? white card?
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Easiest way is using Lightroom and adjust it manually there.. smile.gif
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QUOTE(reno7 @ May 12 2013, 12:42 PM)
Easiest way is using Lightroom and adjust it manually there.. smile.gif
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lol okay.. I've already knew that just thought u all got some magic trick biggrin.gif

and btw are there any wide conversion lens for the olly kit lens 14-42 mkii?
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After the Olympus PEN EP-5 Touch & Try Event, especially after the Image stabilization demo comparison between EP-3 and OM-D.... I am now so sad for my EP-3. sad.gif

Go to an EP-5 event, end up wanting an OM-D.
I want an OM-D.
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QUOTE(Mowgly @ May 12 2013, 01:02 PM)
After the Olympus PEN EP-5 Touch & Try Event, especially after the Image stabilization demo comparison between EP-3 and OM-D.... I am now so sad for my EP-3. sad.gif

Go to an EP-5 event, end up wanting an OM-D.
I want an OM-D.
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My E-PL3 is not even a month old. cry.gif

anyone knows where to get WCON-P01 wide angle converter?

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QUOTE(GameFr3ak @ May 12 2013, 12:43 PM)
lol okay.. I've already knew that just thought u all got some magic trick  biggrin.gif

and btw are there any wide conversion lens for the olly kit lens 14-42 mkii?
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Original for oly kitlens can get at http://shashinki.com/shop/olympus-wcon-wid...nly-p-8280.html

Or if u want more powerful converter, get the raynox super wide angle converter.. A bit pricey but can convert 14mm to 9mm..
The olympus wcon-p01 can only convert 14mm to 11mm only.. smile.gif
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QUOTE(Mowgly @ May 12 2013, 01:02 PM)
After the Olympus PEN EP-5 Touch & Try Event, especially after the Image stabilization demo comparison between EP-3 and OM-D.... I am now so sad for my EP-3. sad.gif

Go to an EP-5 event, end up wanting an OM-D.
I want an OM-D.
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Want mine 2nd hand hehehe.... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(reno7 @ May 12 2013, 09:31 PM)
Original for oly kitlens can get at http://shashinki.com/shop/olympus-wcon-wid...nly-p-8280.html

Or if u want more powerful converter, get the raynox super wide angle converter.. A bit pricey but can convert 14mm to 9mm..
The olympus wcon-p01 can only convert 14mm to 11mm only.. smile.gif
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Thanks man.. how much approx for raynox wide?
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QUOTE(reno7 @ May 12 2013, 09:32 PM)
Want mine 2nd hand hehehe.... tongue.gif
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whats the market price for 2nd hand OMD? Interested in getting one as i'm thinking to sell my dslr gears.
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QUOTE(reno7 @ May 12 2013, 09:32 PM)
Want mine 2nd hand hehehe.... tongue.gif
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Tempting! drool.gif

Let me kumpul duit first! Haha. What's the going rate for new and 2nd hand for OM-D now anyway?

The EP-5 had the world's first 1/8000s shutter speed in m43, am hoping there's gonna be an upgrade version of the OMD that will have this feature.
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Guys, nak tanya..

In street photography which involves moving objects (people) in low light condition (night time with some night market lights). How do you go about that handheld?

You bump the ISO up? (noise+)
You slow down the shutter speed? (camera shake, movement blur)

What mode would you use?

Thanks sifus
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QUOTE(s7ran9er @ May 11 2013, 11:08 PM)
back from Olympus EP-5 event, really really amazed by the 5-axis stabilization and the wireless features that has to offered by the new camera though too bad it doesn't has a built-in vf but have to buy one for RM400+

Got these:
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After the Olympus PEN EP-5 Touch & Try Event, especially after the Image stabilization demo comparison between EP-3 and OM-D.... I am now so sad for my EP-3. sad.gif

Go to an EP-5 event, end up wanting an OM-D.
I want an OM-D.
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SAME HERE! hahaha even i own an OM-D i`m not aware its capability is up to that extend! really impressed.

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QUOTE(GameFr3ak @ May 13 2013, 08:27 AM)
Guys, nak tanya..

In street photography which involves moving objects (people) in low light condition (night time with some night market lights). How do you go about that handheld?

You bump the ISO up? (noise+)
You slow down the shutter speed? (camera shake, movement blur)

What mode would you use?

Thanks sifus
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Hi bro for me, personally my opinion is depends on what feeling you want in your pics. to tell story that the people is movie, use slow shutter speed. To freeze movement either increase ISO or set your lens to the brightest (or get a brighter lens tongue.gif)

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QUOTE(NISMOgan @ May 13 2013, 09:48 AM)
Hi bro for me, personally my opinion is depends on what feeling you want in your pics. to tell story that the people is movie, use slow shutter speed. To freeze movement either increase ISO or set your lens to the brightest (or get a brighter lens tongue.gif)
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Thanks man, let's say if I wanna capture a old lady pushing a cart (so she's moving) and I wanna freeze all her movement. And it's during night time with only some street lights and some night market lights.

So in my current understand, I need to : -

with 14mm (28mm equivalent)

- so 1/30 to have no camera shake and to freeze movement, I need to have 1/80?
- due to the fast shutter speed, I need to bump up the ISO to compensate the low light
- to increase light input, I need to lower the F value (lowest 3.5 on kit lens)

Am I correct on above?

And when you said get a "brighter lens", you mean a fast lens (with low F number right?) rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(GameFr3ak @ May 13 2013, 10:07 AM)
Thanks man, let's say if I wanna capture a old lady pushing a cart (so she's moving) and I wanna freeze all her movement. And it's during night time with only some street lights and some night market lights.

So in my current understand, I need to : -

with 14mm (28mm equivalent)

- so 1/30 to have no camera shake and to freeze movement, I need to have 1/80?
- due to the fast shutter speed, I need to bump up the ISO to compensate the low light
- to increase light input, I need to lower the F value (lowest 3.5 on kit lens)

Am I correct on above?

And when you said get a "brighter lens", you mean a fast lens (with low F number right?)  rclxms.gif
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Ok bro i just sharing my non-pro opinion here smile.gif

to answer 3 question above generally, point number 1 yup, if let say 1/30 is fast enough for you, 1/80 is even a safer number. Point number 2, i think you have typo? to compensate slow shutter wpeed with high ISO? Yes, from point number 1, let say u feel 1/80 is not not enough to freeze the moment, you can use hihger ISO so that can boost further up your shutter speed, say to 1/200.

And for "brighter lens" means a fast lens with low F number you are correct bro smile.gif

Btw bro u using M mode to shoot?
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QUOTE(NISMOgan @ May 13 2013, 12:04 PM)
Ok bro i just sharing my non-pro opinion here smile.gif

to answer 3 question above generally, point number 1 yup, if let say 1/30 is fast enough for you, 1/80 is even a safer number. Point number 2, i think you have typo? to compensate slow shutter wpeed with high ISO? Yes, from point number 1, let say u feel 1/80 is not not enough to freeze the moment, you can use hihger ISO so that can boost further up your shutter speed, say to 1/200.

And for "brighter lens" means a fast lens with low F number you are correct bro smile.gif

Btw bro u using M mode to shoot?
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Hey thanks bro. I'm not all that familiar with all the terminology but I have some general sense of understanding in this, so excuse my erm terms tongue.gif

But I'm not sure if I've used a wrong term here. Cause in my understanding, to capture movement we need fast shutter speed, this is generally okay during the day with ample light so I could let the ISO at its lowest (correct?).

But in my scenario, low light + movement. So I need to have fast shutter speed to freeze movement and up the ISO to compensate the fast shutter speed. Am I wrong ? sad.gif

Ah, so people often say brighter/faster lens = low f number. I get it now. Thanks!

And yes, I'm forcing myself to use M as I'm learning. I got below results (which are below average sigh). They all have the same common problem, they're underexposed.

Exposure: 0.033 sec (1/30) (I guess this should be slower since my subjects are static but I worry about camera shake)
Aperture: f/3.5
Focal Length: 14 mm
ISO Speed: 200 (since I shouldn't lower the shutter speed as I might get camera shake, I think I should up the ISO correct?)

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2 stops = ISO 800 will do the job
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QUOTE(GameFr3ak @ May 13 2013, 12:28 PM)
Hey thanks bro. I'm not all that familiar with all the terminology but I have some general sense of understanding in this, so excuse my erm terms  tongue.gif

But I'm not sure if I've used a wrong term here. Cause in my understanding, to capture movement we need fast shutter speed, this is generally okay during the day with ample light so I could let the ISO at its lowest (correct?).

But in my scenario, low light  + movement. So I need to have fast shutter speed to freeze movement and up the ISO to compensate the fast shutter speed. Am I wrong ?  sad.gif

Ah, so people often say brighter/faster lens = low f number. I get it now. Thanks!

And yes, I'm forcing myself to use M as I'm learning. I got below results (which are below average sigh). They all have the same common problem, they're underexposed.

Exposure:  0.033 sec (1/30) (I guess this should be slower since my subjects are static but I worry about camera shake)
Aperture:  f/3.5
Focal Length:  14 mm
ISO Speed:  200 (since I shouldn't lower the shutter speed as I might get camera shake, I think I should up the ISO correct?)

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Hi bro yes u r generally right. Daylight with low ISO plus high shutter speed works to freeze the subject. Additionally, if you would like to show the subject is moving, you need to use panning smile.gif

Yeap your 2nd statment is right generally too! low light, high ISO to compensate the fast shutter speed.
its ok bro u just got your camera not long, no one can master it suddenly right? smile.gif

In your picture, yes u r right, u should up the ISO smile.gif

Perhaps if you dont like high ISO maybe ISO 400 plus a slower shutter speed if your hand is stable enough? at 14mm shake should be quite minimal smile.gif or like Olga sifu said, 800 ISO if you can accept.
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QUOTE(OlgaC4 @ May 13 2013, 12:35 PM)
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You're right..

Exposure: 0.033 sec (1/30)
Aperture: f/3.5
Focal Length: 14 mm
ISO Speed: 200

Keeping my shutter speed, upping ISO 2 stops to ISO 800, would make my photos a lot better. Or I could get a faster lens.
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QUOTE(NISMOgan @ May 13 2013, 02:43 PM)
Hi bro yes u r generally right. Daylight with low ISO plus high shutter speed works to freeze the subject. Additionally, if you would like to show the subject is moving, you need to use panning smile.gif

Yeap your 2nd statment is right generally too! low light, high ISO to compensate the fast shutter speed.
its ok bro u just got your camera not long, no one can master it suddenly right? smile.gif

In your picture, yes u r right, u should up the ISO smile.gif

Perhaps if you dont like high ISO maybe ISO 400 plus a slower shutter speed if your hand is stable enough? at 14mm shake should be quite minimal smile.gif or like Olga sifu said, 800 ISO if you can accept.
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I get it now. I tried on a simulator where it shows my scenario perfectly. A moving subject + lowlight condition. It's hard to achieve sharp noiseless photo with 3.5 aperture.

Too high of ISO gave more noise, too slow of shutter speed gave movement blur. To get in between, I lower my aperture to 2.8, lower my ISO to 400 and maintain my shutter speed.

I guess this is why you sifus pay big $$ for fast/bright lens huh
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QUOTE(GameFr3ak @ May 13 2013, 02:57 PM)
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I get it now. I tried on a simulator where it shows my scenario perfectly. A moving subject + lowlight condition. It's hard to achieve sharp noiseless photo with 3.5 aperture.

Too high of ISO gave more noise, too slow of shutter speed gave movement blur. To get in between, I lower my aperture to 2.8, lower my ISO to 400 and maintain my shutter speed.

I guess this is why you sifus pay big $$ for fast/bright lens huh
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hehe not 100% actually its quite flexible, erm say get a good camera body where its high ISO noise is still very good looking? hehe its just that fast lens gives u even more flexibility and good bokeh. What camera r u using bro? I think most of the modern m43 nowadays ISO 400 is nothing hehe btw i`m also a very very "ISO stingy" guy. i know how u feel tongue.gif
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hehe not 100% actually its quite flexible, erm say get a good camera body where its high ISO noise is still very good looking? hehe its just that fast lens gives u even more flexibility and good bokeh. What camera r u using bro? I think most of the modern m43 nowadays ISO 400 is nothing hehe btw i`m also a very very "ISO stingy" guy. i know how u feel tongue.gif
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lol spot on; on the "ISO stingy". I'm a very very picky person when it comes to pixel spotting. I just got my E-PL3. I haven't really did much indoor shots with low lights, so that was my first. I need to fix the WB and the exposure. And I should read my surrounding more. As I'm in a library, movements are minimal, I guess I could go lower and up the ISO to around 800.
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lol spot on; on the "ISO stingy". I'm a very very picky person when it comes to pixel spotting. I just got my E-PL3. I haven't really did much indoor shots with low lights, so that was my first. I need to fix the WB and the exposure. And I should read my surrounding more. As I'm in a library, movements are minimal, I guess I could go lower and up the ISO to around 800.
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haha ic, EP-3 no problem la on higher ISO hehe...
btw the auto WB could not satisfy u? I agree my GF2 Auto WB is better than my OM-D but i can live with it after some time hehee
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haha ic, EP-3 no problem la on higher ISO hehe...
btw the auto WB could not satisfy u? I agree my GF2 Auto WB is better than my OM-D but i can live with it after some time hehee
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It's actually E-PL3 (though not much diff I guess tongue.gif ). The problem is, I didn't use auto doh.gif it's too warm or too cold..

Bro and sifus, what would be your ideal lens for some nice day light street photography? Candid
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QUOTE(GameFr3ak @ May 13 2013, 03:53 PM)
It's actually E-PL3 (though not much diff I guess tongue.gif ). The problem is, I didn't use auto  doh.gif it's too warm or too cold..

Bro and sifus, what would be your ideal lens for some nice day light street photography? Candid
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I use EP-3 tongue.gif

With lens im not so familiar, as m43 lenses are very very expensive. So now still using kit lens and legancy 50mm f1.8 olympus. But I would always use wide angle for street photography. I shoot street from the hips, so i need wide FOV to capture whole bodies without risk of missing out the subjects head brows.gif


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I experimented with Double Exposure to blend 2 photos together in PS. I feel like something is missing, like tak ngam. Just wanna get more feedback to see what is wrong or what to improve. What do you guys think?

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I use EP-3  tongue.gif

With lens im not so familiar, as m43 lenses are very very expensive. So now still using kit lens and legancy 50mm f1.8 olympus. But I would always use wide angle for street photography. I shoot street from the hips, so i need wide FOV to capture whole bodies without risk of missing out the subjects head  brows.gif
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QUOTE(GameFr3ak @ May 13 2013, 03:53 PM)
It's actually E-PL3 (though not much diff I guess tongue.gif ). The problem is, I didn't use auto  doh.gif it's too warm or too cold..

Bro and sifus, what would be your ideal lens for some nice day light street photography? Candid
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Day light will be easy just any kitlens will do.. Night street photography will be a little bit tricky.. U will need the fast primes for that or u wil need to bump up iso.. smile.gif
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Day light will be easy just any kitlens will do.. Night street photography will be a little bit tricky.. U will need the fast primes for that or u wil need to bump up iso.. smile.gif
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I experimented with Double Exposure to blend 2 photos together in PS. I feel like something is missing, like tak ngam. Just wanna get more feedback to see what is wrong or what to improve. What do you guys think?

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wanted to ask, is there any cheap and affordable fast primes in m4/3 system? for example in Canon there's the cheap 50mm and the same thing to Nikon.

I am asking this because this will be important if i want to change system since fast prime is a must for me.
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wanted to ask, is there any cheap and affordable fast primes in m4/3 system? for example in Canon there's the cheap 50mm and the same thing to Nikon.

I am asking this because this will be important if i want to change system since fast prime is a must for me.
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Not sure if the prime is cheap..but its range between 1k-2.5k

This shot with kitlens 14mm not so fast f2.5

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Not sure if the prime is cheap..but its range between 1k-2.5k

This shot with kitlens 14mm not so fast f2.5

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Nothing like the Nifty Fifty in the m43 world. I do hear about Legacy and classic lens being cheap but I just don't see this much in Malaysia. So I don't really know much about these old lenses. But these classics are suppose to be what makes m43 a strong system.

As for the cheapest 1st hand prime lenses in the m43 are the Sigma primes, which are F2.8. 19mm, 30mm, 60mm. And they should all cost less than RM1k. B&H are selling them Sigmas at 150-250 USD.


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QUOTE(Rice_Owl84 @ May 13 2013, 11:44 PM)
Nothing like the Nifty Fifty in the m43 world.  I do hear about Legacy and classic lens being cheap but I just don't see this much in Malaysia.  So I don't really know much about these old lenses.  But these classics are suppose to be what makes m43 a strong system. 

As for the cheapest 1st hand prime lenses in the m43 are the Sigma primes, which are F2.8.  19mm, 30mm, 60mm.  And they should all cost less than RM1k.  B&H are selling them Sigmas at 150-250 USD.
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A legacy lens not a cheap option either you still need the adapter, again without evf there is no fun doing manual. Agreed the sigma probably among the cheapest, importantly it does do the job.
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QUOTE(Rice_Owl84 @ May 13 2013, 11:44 PM)
Nothing like the Nifty Fifty in the m43 world.  I do hear about Legacy and classic lens being cheap but I just don't see this much in Malaysia.  So I don't really know much about these old lenses.  But these classics are suppose to be what makes m43 a strong system. 

As for the cheapest 1st hand prime lenses in the m43 are the Sigma primes, which are F2.8.  19mm, 30mm, 60mm.  And they should all cost less than RM1k.  B&H are selling them Sigmas at 150-250 USD.
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Thanks for the info but what's B&H?
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An online shop http://www.bhphotovideo.com/.

I don't buy from them, but use them for price reference so I know whether or not I'm really over paying for something.

I'm also quite hesitant to going for a m43 system until I find a lens and accessories shop in KL that provide a good price.
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An online shop http://www.bhphotovideo.com/.

I don't buy from them, but use them for price reference so I know whether or not I'm really over paying for something. 

I'm also quite hesitant to going for a m43 system until I find a lens and accessories shop in KL that provide a good price.
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I don't know about a shop with good price, but I buy my EM-5 kit, extra battery and Oly 17mm f1.8 from YL Camera. They accept trade-in too, but of course selling online will have higher price.

Now I'm trying to sell off my Nikon DSLR to fund for my m43 system.
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Guys, would it be good if I invest for a fast prime (20 or 25mm with around F1.5) for low light street and indoor shots?

This will be in addition with my existing 14-42mm(day light and night landscapes with tripod) & 40-150mm (zoom).

Yay or Nay?
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Guys, would it be good if I invest for a fast prime (20 or 25mm with around F1.5) for low light street and indoor shots?

This will be in addition with my existing 14-42mm(day light and night landscapes with tripod) & 40-150mm (zoom).

Yay or Nay?
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to us its sure a yay! rclxms.gif
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to us its sure a yay!  rclxms.gif
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lol thanks man. Deep down inside I wanted to get it, I just wanted a push from the back to go get it lol. But am I entirely correct that my current lens set are not allowing me to capture sharp pics on a moving subject in low light / night time condition?
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lol thanks man. Deep down inside I wanted to get it, I just wanted a push from the back to go get it lol. But am I entirely correct that my current lens set are not allowing me to capture sharp pics on a moving subject in low light / night time condition?
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ehhhh it can la bro, its just harder smile.gif
also it depends how dark was it tho hehe
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QUOTE(NISMOgan @ May 14 2013, 11:41 AM)
ehhhh it can la bro, its just harder smile.gif
also it depends how dark was it tho hehe
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I know can la lol but for moving subjects.. it's gonna be noisy like fug if i wanna capture with minimum movement blur cry.gif I've already spent a lot of my time snapping my cat with my 14-42 3.5 with low indoor light at around 8pm.. there's really not much light other than some ceiling lights..

If i wanna freeze the cat's movement, it'll be around 1600 ISO or 3200 ISO to compensate the lack of light rclxub.gif


well i missed one big point... a built in flash with a nice diffuser might remedy this aye ? laugh.gif

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Simplicity is the best policy  biggrin.gif
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I know what you mean. Abit too many things going on right? like its too busy.

QUOTE(mingyuyu @ May 13 2013, 10:27 PM)
wanted to ask, is there any cheap and affordable fast primes in m4/3 system? for example in Canon there's the cheap 50mm and the same thing to Nikon.

I am asking this because this will be important if i want to change system since fast prime is a must for me.
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Like everyone said, there's no cheap ones made specifically for m43 system. But there are legacy lens, or older steel made lenses which were for the older film/rangefinder cameras. Its purely manual. I have one Olympus G.Zuiko 50mm f1.8, which does reasonably well. If you dont mind manual, you can try it out. Look for a member here named Sevenor. bought mine from him, he should be able to help you.


This was using the 50mm f1.8. If i remember correctly at f5.6. I feel its sharpest at 4-5.6.

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QUOTE(GameFr3ak @ May 14 2013, 11:47 AM)
I know can la lol but for moving subjects.. it's gonna be noisy like fug if i wanna capture with minimum movement blur  cry.gif  I've already spent a lot of my time snapping my cat with my 14-42 3.5 with low indoor light at around 8pm.. there's really not much light other than some ceiling lights..

If i wanna freeze the cat's movement, it'll be around 1600 ISO or 3200 ISO to compensate the lack of light  rclxub.gif
well i missed one big point... a built in flash with a nice diffuser might remedy this aye ?  laugh.gif
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yeap flash does the trick as well, but there is another thing to learn to control the flash hahaha.... for me i still din like taking with flash (maybe due to bulky and broken pocket issue) biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(NISMOgan @ May 14 2013, 01:38 PM)
yeap flash does the trick as well, but there is another thing to learn to control the flash hahaha.... for me i still din like taking with flash (maybe due to bulky and broken pocket issue)  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
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Ya I tested once in the noon where I shot a portrait of a person within a room with thick dark curtain. So there's really very minimal lights. I tested one without any diffuser and one with a piece of white paper in front of it.. the result is superb and natural biggrin.gif

Your cam doesnt come with a built in flash ka?

But I guess I'll need to mcgyver various diffuser for various conditions rclxms.gif
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Ya I tested once in the noon where I shot a portrait of a person within a room with thick dark curtain. So there's really very minimal lights. I tested one without any diffuser and one with a piece of white paper in front of it.. the result is superb and natural biggrin.gif

Your cam doesnt come with a built in flash ka?

But I guess I'll need to mcgyver various diffuser for various conditions  rclxms.gif
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yeap difusser wors very nicely but our ori flash have limited distance haha, my GF2 can bounce off low ceiling but my new cam cannot biggrin.gif too bad la....
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QUOTE(NISMOgan @ May 14 2013, 02:00 PM)
yeap difusser wors very nicely but our ori flash have limited distance haha, my GF2 can bounce off low ceiling but my new cam cannot biggrin.gif too bad la....
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I guess I'll be up close enough for night shots haha I don't really have much field experience so I can only imagine lol my last trip to the nice PPAS library already proven that I need to learn more with the shitty underexposed pics

anywhere interdasting in KL for photoshoot ar? like a nice church with lotsa indoor details one.. ada kah?
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QUOTE(Nogol @ May 14 2013, 09:13 AM)
I don't know about a shop with good price, but I buy my EM-5 kit, extra battery and Oly 17mm f1.8 from YL Camera. They accept trade-in too, but of course selling online will have higher price.

Now I'm trying to sell off my Nikon DSLR to fund for my m43 system.
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How much the price of the 17mmf1.8 at YL? I went there last weekend but don't dare to ask.. I saw quite a few units in the shelf.. sweat.gif
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How much the price of the 17mmf1.8 at YL? I went there last weekend but don't dare to ask.. I saw quite a few units in the shelf..  sweat.gif
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Nothing spectacular, just a test shot with my 40-150mm at max.

Exposure: 0.017 sec (1/60)
Aperture: f/8
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ISO Speed: 200
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QUOTE(GameFr3ak @ May 14 2013, 11:47 AM)
I know can la lol but for moving subjects.. it's gonna be noisy like fug if i wanna capture with minimum movement blur  cry.gif  I've already spent a lot of my time snapping my cat with my 14-42 3.5 with low indoor light at around 8pm.. there's really not much light other than some ceiling lights..

If i wanna freeze the cat's movement, it'll be around 1600 ISO or 3200 ISO to compensate the lack of light  rclxub.gif
well i missed one big point... a built in flash with a nice diffuser might remedy this aye ?  laugh.gif
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i dun understand why you wanna shoot cat in the low light? always shoot in a good light, not enough light then you might need a speedlight. when you are not in the restricted area, just use the speedlight if required. people even use speedlight in broad daylight. my point is always check light against the shutter speed you want.
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How much the price of the 17mmf1.8 at YL? I went there last weekend but don't dare to ask.. I saw quite a few units in the shelf..  sweat.gif
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For YL, you can refer to their website for price http://ylcamera.com.my/. Call and ask if they have stock, etc. I don't remember how much I bought the 17 f1.8, I bought a bunch of stuffs and asked for discount. (Lens, B+W filter, and extra battery for my EM5)

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I might be going to YL this week to check them out.  How's their 2nd hand selection for m43 and dslr lenses?
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QUOTE(Nogol @ May 14 2013, 05:49 PM)
For YL, you can refer to their website for price http://ylcamera.com.my/. Call and ask if they have stock, etc. I don't remember how much I bought the 17 f1.8, I bought a bunch of stuffs and asked for discount. (Lens, B+W filter, and extra battery for my EM5)
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Some of the prices in their website seems to be outdated..
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Hey guys, I'm kind of a newbie here, thinking of getting the EPL3 but I don't know which one to pick, the basic kit or the twin lens. Can somebody tell me what the 14-42mm is for? And the 40-150mm?

I normally like to shoot people and landscapes. Not so much on the macro stuff.
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QUOTE(kenary820 @ May 14 2013, 05:29 PM)
i dun understand why you wanna shoot cat in the low light? always shoot in a good light, not enough light then you might need a speedlight. when you are not in the restricted area, just use the speedlight if required. people even use speedlight in broad daylight. my point is always check light against the shutter speed you want.
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I did it to learn the limit of what I could take handheld low light movement with my camera and lens. I'll be snapping a lot of human subject indoors with limited source of light. I'll check out more on speedlight and flashes. Thanks man.
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Some of the prices in their website seems to be outdated..
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Have to do some research and compare prices.

What other shops do you compare the price to?

I need to keep track of some shops so I can compare prices. Planning to get 60mm f2.8 macro next biggrin.gif

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Get the twin lens if you're not sure what lens you want, that way you get more to explore, and sell off and buy new lens if you find it's not for you. Plus, getting the twin lens kit will be cheaper if you buy the lens separate.

14-42 will suit your needs more, because it is wide enough to shoot landscapes.
40-150mm is a zoom lens, too tele for you to shoot a person that's 5 steps in front of you.
both lens can be used to shoot people and landscapes, depending on how you use them.
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QUOTE(GameFr3ak @ May 14 2013, 08:41 PM)
I did it to learn the limit of what I could take handheld low light movement with my camera and lens. I'll be snapping a lot of human subject indoors with limited source of light. I'll check out more on speedlight and flashes. Thanks man.
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The hotel lobby sometimes looks bright, but when you meter --> mostly I notice only give you 1/4s - 1/10s at f4. What you need is to know what your limit for steady hand, and what the min shutter speed to compensate human movement. Blur because of camera shake vs human movement is two different thing, which one still useable in most condition. If you do function flash is way to go, it give contrast and subject standout.
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QUOTE(kenary820 @ May 14 2013, 10:12 PM)
The hotel lobby sometimes looks bright, but when you meter --> mostly I notice only give you 1/4s - 1/10s at f4. What you need is to know what your limit for steady hand, and what the min shutter speed to compensate human movement. Blur because of camera shake vs human movement is two different thing, which one still useable in most condition. If you do function flash is way to go, it give contrast and subject standout.
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Hey thanks for the tips. I've just tested some shots with the default flash + a diy diffuser. The result was great (IMO).

The photo was shot at night with low indoor lights. I've tested shots with movement as well. Near zero movement blur, very satisfied.

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That's gonna be my next test, to test at what speed I need to be to compensate human movement. I've read a lot about minimum shutter speed for different focal length. For 14mm, I need to be at 1/30 (no 28). And I figure I need at around 1/125 to minimize movement blur.

And I totally agree that movement blur > camera shake. And flash is the way to go. But if I throw flash out of the equation, is a lens with F1.4 gonna save me? It's gonna give 2-3 stops I think?

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QUOTE(GameFr3ak @ May 14 2013, 10:38 PM)
And I totally agree that movement blur > camera shake. And flash is the way to go. But if I throw flash out of the equation, is a lens with F1.4 gonna save me? It's gonna give 2-3 stops I think?

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Can't find any articles about this. But you can try to simulate what a F1.4 can do for you. Shoot at F3.5 at max ISO 3200 and see if that captures what you want, ignore the noise and see if it got the brightness and the picture you want. Well that picture you can take at ISO 400 f1.4. Though its not accurate but something like that simulates what a wide aperture can do for you.

Oh and don't forget F1.4 can really blur your background with its shallow DOF. It can really blur things. I shot a couple and the girl's face was super sharp but the boy's face was quite blurry.

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Sharing a few snaps from my recent trip to Redang. Mighty impressed with E-M5's dynamic range.

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Sharing a few snaps from my recent trip to Redang. Mighty impressed with E-M5's dynamic range.

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I wonder if the rumours about the new OM-D is true. Release in sept 2013 it seems.
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QUOTE(kenary820 @ May 13 2013, 11:04 PM)
Not sure if the prime is cheap..but its range between 1k-2.5k

This shot with kitlens 14mm not so fast f2.5

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QUOTE(Rice_Owl84 @ May 15 2013, 09:54 AM)
Can't find any articles about this.  But you can try to simulate what a F1.4 can do for you.  Shoot at F3.5 at max ISO 3200 and see if that captures what you want, ignore the noise and see if it got the brightness and the picture you want.  Well that picture you can take at ISO 400 f1.4.  Though its not accurate but something like that simulates what a wide aperture can do for you. 

Oh and don't forget F1.4 can really blur your background with its shallow DOF.  It can really blur things.  I shot a couple and the girl's face was super sharp but the boy's face was quite blurry.
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Just got home and did a quick test out of curiosity. With same shutter speed I observe same brightness between these settings F3.5@ISO3200 and F1.4@ISO800.
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hm... guess i should stick to my dslr then  sad.gif no money for prime lenses.
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QUOTE(Rice_Owl84 @ May 15 2013, 09:54 AM)
Can't find any articles about this.  But you can try to simulate what a F1.4 can do for you.  Shoot at F3.5 at max ISO 3200 and see if that captures what you want, ignore the noise and see if it got the brightness and the picture you want.  Well that picture you can take at ISO 400 f1.4.  Though its not accurate but something like that simulates what a wide aperture can do for you. 

Oh and don't forget F1.4 can really blur your background with its shallow DOF.  It can really blur things.  I shot a couple and the girl's face was super sharp but the boy's face was quite blurry.
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no need to be sad..i shooting kitlens in auto mode with m43..
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but if i wanted to buy m4/3 i would change my whole system instead. i cant justify the price of lenses of m4/3 as i am just a student
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if you need it for macro..get used body, 40-150 and a raynox. add a manual flash..total damage less than 1500.
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So there is a puffer pop up flash diffuser for specifically for Olympus. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1OOeNonxrk . Anyone know a shop that has this (THE VER. MADE FOR M43!)?

This would be a key igredient to deciding on buy an Olympus or not.

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QUOTE(Rice_Owl84 @ May 15 2013, 08:44 PM)
So there is a puffer pop up flash diffuser for specifically for Olympus. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1OOeNonxrk  .  Anyone know a shop that has this (THE VER. MADE FOR M43!)?

This would be a key igredient to deciding on buy an Olympus or not.
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I don't like to use built-in camera flash. Consumes battery, can't bounce the light.

Only use it when really necessary with no external flash.
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QUOTE(Mowgly @ May 13 2013, 06:26 PM)
I use EP-3  tongue.gif

With lens im not so familiar, as m43 lenses are very very expensive. So now still using kit lens and legancy 50mm f1.8 olympus. But I would always use wide angle for street photography. I shoot street from the hips, so i need wide FOV to capture whole bodies without risk of missing out the subjects head  brows.gif
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not really all pricey la unless olympus n panasonic then yes loh....

but u can go for sigma if u attempt wide angle..
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QUOTE(Rice_Owl84 @ May 15 2013, 07:01 PM)
Just got home and did a quick test out of curiosity.  With same shutter speed I observe same brightness between these settings F3.5@ISO3200 and F1.4@ISO800.
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Hey thanks for the test man. So yeah that means with 1.4 I could use lower ISO thus lower noise. But I'll try using the flash with some DIY diffuser if this works then I'll save my $ for something else.. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(subrok007 @ May 16 2013, 09:40 AM)
not really all pricey la unless olympus n panasonic then yes loh....

but u can go for sigma if u attempt wide angle..
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The problem is bro, most of the lens available for m43 are range from 1k and above. Our kitlens itself also 1k. So in that aspect I would consider expensive because we dont have many option for 3rd party lens like DSLR, which can come at about 1/3 the price.

Olympus 12mm f/2 wide angle lens also 2.5k+ (Shashinki 2.6k). rclxub.gif

In terms of availability of lens compared to DSLR market, m43 still very limited to the big companies. So monopolize the price lor. at least thats what i think la. smile.gif
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Tempted to get Olympus E-P5 but I'm wondering if the replacement for OM-D is around the corner... hmm.gif
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Digital stuff always go obsolete after a year or so.

That being said I'm considering to let go my EPM2 and get the new E-P5..LOL.. yes its the same sensor but the body so much nicer.
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There's ALWAYS something around the corner. Buy it when you need to use it, not when something new is out.

Digital stuff always go obsolete after a year or so.

That being said I'm considering to let go my EPM2 and get the new E-P5..LOL.. yes its the same sensor but the body so much nicer.
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Mowgly

you have the point.. yes compare to DSLR market, m43 lens really expensive almost above rm1k.. only sigma lens are lower rm1k but not much choice lor..

hopefully aftermarket can come up with competitive la.. biggrin.gif
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But if you compare DSLR good lens, to M43's good lens, same focal lenght, example Canon or Nikon's 24-70mm f2.8 to Panasonic's 12-35mm f2.8 IS, DSLR is still more expensive.
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New m43 user here. Just got my Panasonic GX1 yesterday and working on getting the lenses now smile.gif

Long time (D)SLR and I would say m43 are cheaper on the long run. Lets not just talk about the lenses but the capacity needed to store them safely and also the extensive care you need if you have expensive tele primes like I do.

Though a 35-100mm f/2.8 cost you around RM3600 but at least it is RM4500 cheaper than Nikon 70-200mm VR II AF-S. I have tested that lens yesterday and it feels and handles like my Nikon 80-200mm AF-S with a smaller price tag.

Not to mention you save lots in the storage investment too. I had like RM6000 worth of cases just to lug my gears around but with m43, all I have to get is Think Tank Mirrorless Mover that cost you below RM500.

In the long run in term of investment, m43 are the most cost saving and have nearly a complete range of lenses. Though I am still dreaming only if they would come out a 200mm f/4 prime tele, I would be a happier person tongue.gif
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New m43 user here. Just got my Panasonic GX1 yesterday and working on getting the lenses now smile.gif

Long time (D)SLR and I would say m43 are cheaper on the long run. Lets not just talk about the lenses but the capacity needed to store them safely and also the extensive care you need if you have expensive tele primes like I do.

Though a 35-100mm f/2.8 cost you around RM3600 but at least it is RM4500 cheaper than Nikon 70-200mm VR II AF-S. I have tested that lens yesterday and it feels and handles like my Nikon 80-200mm AF-S with a smaller price tag.

Not to mention you save lots in the storage investment too. I had like RM6000 worth of cases just to lug my gears around but with m43, all I have to get is Think Tank Mirrorless Mover that cost you below RM500.

In the long run in term of investment, m43 are the most cost saving and have nearly a complete range of lenses. Though I am still dreaming only if they would come out a 200mm f/4 prime tele, I would be a happier person tongue.gif
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Good reminder! I still love how cute the Oly 150mm looks but down side is the MMF2 adapters doesnt support AF for the lens. Maybe I am wrong but that is what I was told about. Still, hope I can get use to m43 after years in full frame. hehe..
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QUOTE(onscreen @ May 17 2013, 04:20 PM)
Good reminder! I still love how cute the Oly 150mm looks but down side is the MMF2 adapters doesnt support AF for the lens. Maybe I am wrong but that is what I was told about. Still, hope I can get use to m43 after years in full frame. hehe..
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WHAO!!!! a downgrade from FF to m43 ?!?!? as a m43 user i`m proud of u !! hehe
anyway what made u downgrades? price? size?

erm so far as i know all 43 and m43 is compatible vice versa with AF. Hmmmmm need to confirm this tho.....
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One of my inspiration source is this : http://micromotorsport.wordpress.com/

I take motorsports mostly and some events thrown here and there and as days goes by, I start to find that a smaller camera body will do wonders and lighten up my carriage weight as well as be more "concealed".

I even started to see a few press shooters on mirrorless doing motorsports got me to initiate my research about it. That is how I got myself in love with GX1, for its size and no-nonsense button placement and mode changes.

Pricing isn't a concern as long as you know what to buy and what not to buy biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(onscreen @ May 17 2013, 04:20 PM)
Good reminder! I still love how cute the Oly 150mm looks but down side is the MMF2 adapters doesnt support AF for the lens. Maybe I am wrong but that is what I was told about. Still, hope I can get use to m43 after years in full frame. hehe..
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Using 4/3 lenses on a m4/3 body with the adapter still support af but not as fast as native lens for m4/3.. smile.gif

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QUOTE(NISMOgan @ May 17 2013, 04:39 PM)
WHAO!!!! a downgrade from FF to m43 ?!?!? as a m43 user i`m proud of u !! hehe
anyway what made u downgrades? price? size?

erm so far as i know all 43 and m43 is compatible vice versa with AF. Hmmmmm need to confirm this tho.....
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Most DSLR users usually don't downgrade, but need a travel camera or something more mobile for the casual outing.

My eyes are still on M43 studying that system all because of Blackmagic Pocket Cine Camera will be using the M43 system. Now I would probably just buy the lens and skip Panasonic/Olympus cameras but they price their basic lens so high that getting camera+twin kit sets are even cheaper and far more worth it.

MFT system is growing with these brands also being involved:
Blackmagic with their pocket cine camera - Being highly observed by videographers. Double the attention for the MFT system because Panasonic GH3 is quite reputable in the video world too.
Sigma - Making cheap alternative F2.8 primes for MFT. Let's hope Sigma brings in their famous F1.4 primes too!
Tamron - VC technology in a telephotozoom is being introduced to this system. VC tech is supposedly the best Image stabilization tech in the camera world.
Samyang - Cheap Ulra Wide Fisheye lens (manual only), as you know fisheye is always super expensive but samyang has a very affordable lens in this category.

So I'm planning ahead to get a base incase:
-I go for the blackmagic.
-Need a more smaller/mobile camera.
-A secondary camera (Using two cameras on the spot is better than changing lens on the spot.)

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my sis has an E-PL1, and I'm thinking of taking it to use, stock lens is ok for outdoor, but low light cannot focus, so can anyone intro me a lens for it

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QUOTE(Rice_Owl84 @ May 18 2013, 01:42 PM)
Most DSLR users usually don't downgrade, but need a travel camera or something more mobile for the casual outing. 

My eyes are still on M43 studying that system all because of Blackmagic Pocket Cine Camera will be using the M43 system.  Now I would probably just buy the lens and skip Panasonic/Olympus cameras but they price their basic lens so high that getting camera+twin kit sets are even cheaper and far more worth it. 

MFT system is growing with these brands also being involved:
Blackmagic with their pocket cine camera - Being highly observed by videographers.  Double the attention for the MFT system  because Panasonic GH3 is quite reputable in the video world too. 
Sigma - Making cheap alternative F2.8 primes for MFT.  Let's hope Sigma brings in their famous F1.4 primes too!
Tamron - VC technology in a telephotozoom is being introduced to this system.  VC tech is supposedly the best Image stabilization tech in the camera world.   
Samyang - Cheap Ulra Wide Fisheye lens (manual only), as you know fisheye is always super expensive but samyang has a very affordable lens in this category. 

So I'm planning ahead to get a base incase:
-I go for the blackmagic. 
-Need a more smaller/mobile camera. 
-A secondary camera (Using two cameras on the spot is better than changing lens on the spot.)
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WOW! i`m so happy to see m43 is growing again!
Now i have homework to do on this Blackmagic!
At 1st glance it looks like they are targeting on videographers? hmmm

QUOTE(noobandroid @ May 20 2013, 09:34 AM)
my sis has an E-PL1, and I'm thinking of taking it to use, stock lens is ok for outdoor, but low light cannot focus, so can anyone intro me a lens for it
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Pana-Leica 25mm f1.4 ! laugh.gif
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Pana-Leica 25mm f1.4 !  laugh.gif
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EPL-1, 45mm f1.8. tongue.gif
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Camera E-PL3
Focal Length 14mm
Exposure 1/40
F Number f/3.5
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Camera make OLYMPUS IMAGING CORP.
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Exposure Bias 0.3 EV

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And guys, what's your take on wide angle adapter?

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And guys, what's your take on wide angle adapter?
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QUOTE(reno7 @ May 21 2013, 07:46 AM)
Raynox DCR-731 wideangle converter thumbup.gif

http://www.raynox.co.jp/english/dcr/dcr731/index.htm
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this reno tak habi2 poison! rclxms.gif
Do you know roughly how much can we get for our 14mm? hehe

DCR-732 comes with 3-adapter rings for 37mm, 43mm and 46mm filter sizes

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QUOTE(NISMOgan @ May 21 2013, 09:06 AM)
this reno tak habi2 poison!  rclxms.gif
Do you know roughly how much can we get for our 14mm? hehe

DCR-732 comes with 3-adapter rings for 37mm, 43mm and 46mm filter sizes
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This model is x0.7 magnification so for 14mm u will get 14mmx0.7=9.8mm.. biggrin.gif For OMD kitlens 12mm can get 8.4mm
Mitmivec is selling for rm4++.. nod.gif

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QUOTE(reno7 @ May 21 2013, 09:33 AM)
This model is x0.7 magnification so for 14mm u will get 14mmx0.7=9.8mm..  biggrin.gif For OMD kitlens 12mm can get 8.4mm
Mitmivec is selling for rm4++..  nod.gif
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oh thanks bro for your reply, this is good at least for poor ppl like who cant own the 7-14mm tongue.gif
is this t he widest they have? As i see their site, other than fisheye, this is the widest right?
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oh thanks bro for your reply, this is good at least for poor ppl like who cant own the 7-14mm tongue.gif
is this t he widest they have? As i see their site, other than fisheye, this is the widest right?
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The widest is 0.5x magnification but damn expensive already, but still not as expensive as the 7-14mm tongue.gif .. Do u think 9mm is wide enough?
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The widest is 0.5x magnification but damn expensive already, but still not as expensive as the 7-14mm  tongue.gif .. Do u think 9mm is wide enough?
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ermmmm i think should be ok cos my max is 14mm now only biggrin.gif
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Hi! There is a local group on FB, purely for M43 user, although many of them are on Lumix. Please feel free to give some opinion and comment at the page. Welcome to join them

https://www.facebook.com/groups/lumixpotw/
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QUOTE(reno7 @ May 21 2013, 07:46 AM)
Raynox DCR-731 wideangle converter thumbup.gif

http://www.raynox.co.jp/english/dcr/dcr731/index.htm
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lol thanks man. any idea how much roughly it's gonna cost?
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my sis has an E-PL1, and I'm thinking of taking it to use, stock lens is ok for outdoor, but low light cannot focus, so can anyone intro me a lens for it
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17mm F1.8. that's a new lens from olympus. since it's F1.8. shd be quite good at low light.
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Just bought Panasonic GF3+14mm pancake. This is going to be a nice travel/mobile camera. And really nice to know that once I get an adapter I can use my canon lenses. And nifty fifty is light so can also be added to my travel inventory.

Testing out my GF3 with my 50mm F1.8:

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2nd pic was using macro tube with the 50mm F1.8. Just need to get that EF to MFT adapter to take these pics more easily.

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QUOTE(qoo @ May 21 2013, 10:37 AM)
Hi! There is a local group on FB, purely for M43 user, although many of them are on Lumix. Please feel free to give some opinion and comment at the page. Welcome to join them

https://www.facebook.com/groups/lumixpotw/
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QUOTE(NISMOgan @ May 21 2013, 10:19 AM)
ermmmm i think should be ok cos my max is 14mm now only biggrin.gif
oh is the 0.5 barrel distortion should be very visible then? hmmmmm poisonous !!! vmad.gif
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Around rm4++..
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Around rm4++..
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Bro. have you personally tried the raynox? any sample photos? thinking of getting the olympus wcon. can stretch budget a little more if the quality is good.
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Bro. have you personally tried the raynox? any sample photos? thinking of getting the olympus wcon. can stretch budget a little more if the quality is good.
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I'm sorry i haven't test it yet.. sad.gif My sister has the wcon.. Image is ok.. But the problem is it cannot mount on other lenses except the oly 14-42 kitlens..
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Panasonic is coming up with a 150mm f2.8 by next year drool.gif
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Raynox DCR-731 wideangle converter thumbup.gif

http://www.raynox.co.jp/english/dcr/dcr731/index.htm
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The Raynox is very tempting to buy. I thought of saving up to get wide angle lens, but this looks good enough for me.
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why no body try olympus wide angle converter?? but only applicable to 37mm filter tongue.gif
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why no body try olympus wide angle converter?? but only applicable to 37mm filter tongue.gif
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I doesn't even has a thread.. It just like attaching a lens hood .. Cannot screw in to other lens even the thread is 37mm.. example like oly 45mm still cannot use the wcon even though its front thread is 37mm also..

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why no body try olympus wide angle converter?? but only applicable to 37mm filter tongue.gif
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I doesn't even has a tread.. It just like attaching a lens hood .. Cannot screw in to other lens even the thread is 37mm.. example like  oly 45mm still cannot use the wcon even though its front tread is 37mm also..
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lagi teruk is it only can accept the 14-42 II version. My old Oly EPL-1 14-42 also cannot use sweat.gif
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lagi teruk is it only can accept the 14-42 II version. My old Oly EPL-1 14-42 also cannot use  sweat.gif
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oh because its used bayonet mount la... doh.gif

yes raynox way to go...

just now check 25mm price.. dafuq its RM3050?? so expensive meh in penang?? some quote RM2999 also..
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Hi guys. Im selling my canon system to get into convenience of m43 system. Im quite a traveller and a dslr on my neck always stressd me out. Based on your experience, did changing system change your picture quality as well? Im afraid of losing something most importance along with the weight. Currently im using 7d n my walkaround lens is 24-70mm 2.8l. Thanks.
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oh because its used bayonet mount la... doh.gif

yes raynox way to go...

just now check 25mm price.. dafuq its RM3050?? so expensive meh in penang?? some quote RM2999 also..
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Wait For their promotion.. Heard can get as low as 2.5k.. I'm also still hunting for this lens to complete my primes collection..

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Hi guys. Im selling my canon system to get into convenience of m43 system. Im quite a traveller and a dslr on my neck always stressd me out. Based on your experience, did changing system change your picture quality as well? Im afraid of losing something most importance along with the weight. Currently im using 7d n my walkaround lens is 24-70mm 2.8l. Thanks.
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You will loose bokeh(shallow dof), dynamic range and focus speed in low light.. Just my 2 cents.. smile.gif
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Wait For their promotion.. Heard can get as low as 2.5k.. I'm also still hunting for this lens to complete my primes collection..
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Bought one second-hand for 1.55k (on LYN), you need to be patient, wait and hunt around smile.gif
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QUOTE(ceghiamin @ May 22 2013, 06:36 PM)
Hi guys. Im selling my canon system to get into convenience of m43 system. Im quite a traveller and a dslr on my neck always stressd me out. Based on your experience, did changing system change your picture quality as well? Im afraid of losing something most importance along with the weight. Currently im using 7d n my walkaround lens is 24-70mm 2.8l. Thanks.
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Panasonic saves their raw under a different format that can't be used and edited on Canon Digital Photo Professional. And I don't like Panasonic's Photo studio software. Not too sure if olympus also saves under another raw format too.

Actually I also probably need to check if Adobe or some other photoshop software can edit m43's raw.
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Wait For their promotion.. Heard can get as low as 2.5k.. I'm also still hunting for this lens to complete my primes collection..
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Wait For their promotion.. Heard can get as low as 2.5k.. I'm also still hunting for this lens to complete my primes collection..
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currently your primes collection lineup are???

RM2.5k still expensive leh... sweat.gif

ceghiamin i would say u wont loose bokeh la panasonic 25mm F1.4 ma brows.gif

i can say is the pros side is u gain lightweight camera, performance on par with or exceed some level of DSLR wink.gif


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Wait For their promotion.. Heard can get as low as 2.5k.. I'm also still hunting for this lens to complete my primes collection..
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I got it for RM1,450 during their roadshow wor brows.gif

Brand New In Box somemore
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Hi guys. Im selling my canon system to get into convenience of m43 system. Im quite a traveller and a dslr on my neck always stressd me out. Based on your experience, did changing system change your picture quality as well? Im afraid of losing something most importance along with the weight. Currently im using 7d n my walkaround lens is 24-70mm 2.8l. Thanks.
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Well if you use an OM-D or EP5 with primes like the Oly 17mm 1.8 or Pana 25mm 1.4 you won't be losing anything much.

Bokeh and speed are still great for these lenses

Pana also has the 12-35mm 2.8 but I don't have one so I can't vouch for its quality..
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QUOTE(Rice_Owl84 @ May 22 2013, 07:40 PM)
Panasonic saves their raw under a different format that can't be used and edited on Canon Digital Photo Professional.  And I don't like Panasonic's Photo studio software.  Not too sure if olympus also saves under another raw format too.

Actually I also probably need to check if Adobe or some other photoshop software can edit m43's raw.
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Lightroom 4.4 support pana and oly raw..
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currently your primes collection lineup are???
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I got it for RM1,450 during their roadshow wor brows.gif

Brand New In Box somemore
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QUOTE(Rice_Owl84 @ May 22 2013, 07:40 PM)
Panasonic saves their raw under a different format that can't be used and edited on Canon Digital Photo Professional.  And I don't like Panasonic's Photo studio software.  Not too sure if olympus also saves under another raw format too.

Actually I also probably need to check if Adobe or some other photoshop software can edit m43's raw.
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Lightroom 4.4 support pana and oly raw..
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photoshop elements 11 also can
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QUOTE(incubus_skj @ May 22 2013, 09:27 PM)
Well if you use an OM-D or EP5 with primes like the Oly 17mm 1.8 or Pana 25mm 1.4 you won't be losing anything much.

Bokeh and speed are still great for these lenses

Pana also has the 12-35mm 2.8 but I don't have one so I can't vouch for its quality..
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Omd em5 is on my list and going primes is an absolute. Thanks for the suggestion. I will include 75 into my list as well. Cant wait to try them without stressing my neck.; )
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Omd em5 is on my list and going primes is an absolute. Thanks for the suggestion. I will include 75 into my list as well. Cant wait to try them without stressing my neck.; )
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haha yeah the 75mm is touted to be the best ever lens for the m43 system. Too bad I already have the 35-100 2.8 so the 75mm is kinda redundant for me sweat.gif
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Just bought some random Zomei 52mm wide angle converter + step up ring for 14-42mm......

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hey guys, i come across this raynox DCR250 which selling RM260 brand new.. is it good deal??
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QUOTE(incubus_skj @ May 23 2013, 03:54 PM)
haha yeah the 75mm is touted to be the best ever lens for the m43 system. Too bad I already have the 35-100 2.8 so the 75mm is kinda redundant for me  sweat.gif
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Really expensive lens you got there cry.gif . Btw, another question from me. If I have to own a manual lens eg: voigtlander 17mm 0.95, does without focus peaking hinder me from getting consistently sharp image?
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Really expensive lens you got there cry.gif . Btw, another question from me. If I have to own a manual lens eg: voigtlander 17mm 0.95, does without focus peaking hinder me from getting consistently sharp image?
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Haven't used a manual myself, but if you want focus peaking maybe you should take a look at the EP-5 instead? But it has no built in EVF though..
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hey guys, i come across this raynox DCR250 which selling RM260 brand new.. is it good deal??
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rm260 is ok.. I got it for rm250..
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Just bought some random Zomei 52mm wide angle converter + step up ring for 14-42mm......

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How much u bought the zomei? where? Can u post some of your shots with this filter? Wanna check the quality.. tks smile.gif

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Haven't used a manual myself, but if you want focus peaking maybe you should take a look at the EP-5 instead? But it has no built in EVF though..
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Or wait for the new OMD heheh brows.gif Focus peaking, wifi, pdaf...
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How much u bought the zomei? where?
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ca try lelong.com i think i saw there.
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Any advise between em5 end ep5..?
Quite identical...
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Any advise between em5 end ep5..?
Quite identical...
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em5 only advantage in weather sealed body and built in evf else lost to ep5 new features.. I still waiting for em6 brows.gif

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em5 only advantage in weather sealed body and built in evf else lost to ep5 new features.. I still waiting for em6  brows.gif
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Em6, rumors is on Sept...
Sure sky high price...
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Em6, rumors is on Sept...
Sure sky high price...
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Panasonic is coming up with a 150mm f2.8 by next year drool.gif
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Em6, rumors is on Sept...
Sure sky high price...
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Woah i miss out so much! 150mm!! time to sell my 300mm f/2.8 biggrin.gif kekeke
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Em6, rumors is on Sept...
Sure sky high price...
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Wow, just tot of having em5. Now am I need to wait to try in the big brother? :-O
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ok balik from Lata Berembun short trip...some pics to spam....

sad.....my EPL1 mode dial seems rosak oledi...after kit lens rosak...now oledi 100% walk around with 20MM

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interested to get Olympus zuiko 14-54mm f2.8-3.5 mkII ...anyone using it for EPL1?

how's the focus speed?
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QUOTE(Mowgly @ May 27 2013, 03:17 PM)
Olympus PEN EP-3
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rm260 is ok.. I got it for rm250..
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not a big different la....

btw, have u all set noise reduction setting to ON? or let it default mean OFF ??

my EPL2 quite noise when ISO bump to 1600 onwards...
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QUOTE(subrok007 @ May 27 2013, 03:29 PM)
not a big different la....

btw, have u all set noise reduction setting to ON? or let it default mean OFF ??

my EPL2 quite noise when ISO bump to 1600 onwards...
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QUOTE(Mowgly @ May 27 2013, 03:31 PM)
Photoshop Noise reduction! tongue.gif
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Lightroom NR rclxms.gif

Anyway I set to normal in camera setting..

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interested to get Olympus zuiko 14-54mm f2.8-3.5 mkII ...anyone using it for EPL1?

how's the focus speed?
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Should be ok... Not as fast as the natives one.. smile.gif

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QUOTE(reno7 @ May 27 2013, 05:23 PM)
Lightroom NR  rclxms.gif

Anyway I set to normal in camera setting..
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mine also set normal only...

which flash gun u all use? nissin di466?? or FL600R?? any other alternatively instead of olympus and nissin?

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YongNuo flash is cheap.

But I don't know which model to get with m43. I had the YN580II with my Nikon D7000.
If I put that on my EM5, it feels a bit off balance.
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i saw YN560III can use for olympus but didnt mentioned model.. dunno compatible o not...

yes most important is CHEAP compare FL600R damn expensive..
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mine also set normal only...

which flash gun u all use? nissin di466?? or FL600R?? any other alternatively instead of olympus and nissin?
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I use Nissin di466.. Got is very cheap 2nd hand.. Atm I use mostly for macro only.. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(subrok007 @ May 29 2013, 04:26 PM)
i saw YN560III can use for olympus but didnt mentioned model.. dunno compatible o not...

yes most important is CHEAP compare FL600R damn expensive..
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The Yongnuo is manual setting only..

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Shot by 45mm F2.0
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Guys, I'm thinking to get another lens for my m43 system. Now I have the oly 12-50 kit lens, and oly 17mm f1.8.

I plan to get the oly 60mm f2.8 macro. You guys know where I can get it cheap?
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QUOTE(Nogol @ May 31 2013, 11:45 AM)
Guys, I'm thinking to get another lens for my m43 system. Now I have the oly 12-50 kit lens, and oly 17mm f1.8.

I plan to get the oly 60mm f2.8 macro. You guys know where I can get it cheap?
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now the market price of this lens is about RM1.5k to RM1.6k if i not mistaken.. soon or later might get 1 to shoot shoot.. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(reno7 @ May 30 2013, 10:20 PM)
Oh my dream lens...  lust.gif
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this lens is superb but got 1 issue is clicking sound of the aperture blade during in house or room shooting..

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post May 31 2013, 11:52 AM

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where you get your price reference?

actually i can't decide to get the 60mm macro lens first, or the 45mm f1.8 because the 45mm is cheaper.

do you think olympus will come out a 25mm f1.4 lens?
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The price i get is Penang market via phone tongue.gif

actually 60mm can shoot in any mode of photography, it means to macro but not necessary only for macro ma. only the downside compare 45mm is F1.8 and longer Focal Length, the rest is about same.. can shoot landscape, street or watever. The Pro is dedicate macro lo.. hmm.gif 120mm i think shoot in landscape is quite tight ady..

hopefully olympus come out with 25mm F1.2 then awesome liao..
olympus quite expensive is compare to panasonic.. it didnt bundle with hoods and lens storage.. compare with panasonic like 25mm does. even the 12mm F2.0 expensive lens also no bundle. quite sad..

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Wah everyone buy dedicated m43 lenses. Under budget, I buy manual/legacy lenses also I happy tongue.gif

Although true, if oly comes up with a 25mm/28mm prime, I think I would pick it up. Now looking at the Oly 12mm prime, might just be a near future investment. rclxms.gif

Here's to my Olympus OM 50mm f1.8!

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I don't want manual/legacy lens because size and weight.

or maybe i just haven't got the chance to try one on my camera, so i don't feel like getting manual/legacy lens.
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hi guys.. im using epl2 at the moment and am looking for SD card. which one is the best?
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QUOTE(subrok007 @ May 30 2013, 09:42 PM)
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Oo my, sure gonna get this. I just decided to get OMD-EM5 and 17mm f1.8. Oo no, I just did put an order from Bintang BBPlaza last friday. Am I making a wise decision guys? For a street price, I got 2800 for the body and 1440 for the lens. Is that a good offer?

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Hi guys,

I m planning to get either the oly or panny...

currently was offered RM1.9k for either EPL-5 + 1440 or GX1 - 1442 + 14 2.8

Any reason i shouldnt go for either one of them?

I m a fan of prime lens, often shoot with 50 1.4 when i use my D700, so this is gonna be my travel cam. But i still need a versatile prime on the range of 35mm (at 35mm equiv.) preferably faster lens.

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QUOTE(ceghiamin @ Jun 3 2013, 07:42 PM)
Oo my, sure gonna get this. I just decided to get OMD-EM5 and 17mm f1.8. Oo no, I just did put an order from Bintang BBPlaza last friday. Am I making a wise decision guys? For a street price, I got 2800 for the body and 1440 for the lens. Is that a good offer?
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yay man, u making good decision rclxms.gif looking at the price, quite reasonable.. nod.gif
olympus prime lens always above 1k and no lens hood included also.. cry.gif

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QUOTE(Mr. Z @ Jun 3 2013, 08:15 PM)
Hi guys,

I m planning to get either the oly or panny...

currently was offered RM1.9k for either EPL-5 + 1440 or GX1 - 1442 + 14 2.8

Any reason i shouldnt go for either one of them?

I m a fan of prime lens, often shoot with 50 1.4 when i use my D700, so this is gonna be my travel cam. But i still need a versatile prime on the range of 35mm (at 35mm equiv.) preferably faster lens.
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i will choose oly because of body image stabilization instead of lens....

then u shouldn't go wrong with leica 25mm F1.4.... fast enough tongue.gif
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shot using my OM-D's, 7-14mm and 25mm

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Are pics 1 and 2 cropped? And at what mm were they shot at? Am considering getting a wide angle, just wanna see how wide it can go. 7mm seems excessively wide though.
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QUOTE(Mowgly @ Jun 4 2013, 11:01 AM)
Are pics 1 and 2 cropped? And at what mm were they shot at? Am considering getting a wide angle, just wanna see how wide it can go. 7mm seems excessively wide though.
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Shot at 16:9 and 7mm, didn't crop them

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Shot at 16:9 and 7mm, didn't crop them
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QUOTE(subrok007 @ Jun 3 2013, 11:01 PM)
i will choose oly because of body image stabilization instead of lens....

then u shouldn't go wrong with leica 25mm F1.4.... fast enough  tongue.gif
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I also choose the Oly E-PL5 becos of IBIS and better image sensor same as OMD ones(better dynamic range and lower noise in high iso).. Not to forget the tiltable lcd and punchier oly ooc jpeg colour.. Prime lens can be bought later.. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(reno7 @ Jun 4 2013, 06:52 PM)
I also choose the Oly E-PL5 becos of IBIS and better image sensor same as OMD ones(better dynamic range and lower noise in high iso).. Not to forget the tiltable lcd and punchier oly ooc jpeg colour.. Prime lens can be bought later..  thumbup.gif
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Hmm.... thts a tough choice...

Like the E-PL5, but I m quite attracted at the low price of GX1... hmm.gif

Any other options besides this? trying to keep my cost at less than 2k and hopefully comes with primes


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guys, now I plan to get a 2nd hand m43 for spare / travel cam..
budget enuf for ep-2 or gf3 ..any advice?

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QUOTE(Mr. Z @ Jun 5 2013, 06:41 PM)
Hmm.... thts a tough choice...

Like the E-PL5, but I m quite attracted at the low price of GX1...  hmm.gif

Any other options besides this? trying to keep my cost at less than 2k and hopefully comes with primes
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2k comes with prime can be only the 14mm bro, GX1 not bad at all too! u can go ad hands on and see which u like maybe.

QUOTE(JeFf_90 @ Jun 5 2013, 11:14 PM)
guys, now I plan to get a 2nd hand m43 for spare / travel cam..
budget enuf for ep-2 or gf3 ..any advice?
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the 2 have some quite major difference namely no hot shoe and mono mic in gf3. while Oly i`m not so quite sure. It depends on ur need i would say?
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Anyone went to the Harvery Norman warehouse sales last weekend?

I bought my OMD + 12-50mm kitlens in the sales for RM2399.

i was actually targeting the EPL3 as they were throwing the price for RM799 with kit lens but last minute the guy suddenly offered me the OMD for RM2399. biggrin.gif

I also got Olympus TG-820 weatherproof for only RM200. biggrin.gif

Still learning how to use the OMD as M43 is very different from my D7000.
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QUOTE(Fusion @ Jun 6 2013, 10:31 AM)
Anyone went to the Harvery Norman warehouse sales last weekend?

I bought my OMD + 12-50mm kitlens in the sales for RM2399.

i was actually targeting the EPL3 as they were throwing the price for RM799 with kit lens but last minute the guy suddenly offered me the OMD for RM2399.  biggrin.gif

I also got Olympus TG-820 weatherproof for only RM200.  biggrin.gif

Still learning how to use the OMD as M43 is very different from my D7000.
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Is the warehouse sale still on?
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QUOTE(Fusion @ Jun 6 2013, 10:31 AM)
Anyone went to the Harvery Norman warehouse sales last weekend?

I bought my OMD + 12-50mm kitlens in the sales for RM2399.

i was actually targeting the EPL3 as they were throwing the price for RM799 with kit lens but last minute the guy suddenly offered me the OMD for RM2399.  biggrin.gif

I also got Olympus TG-820 weatherproof for only RM200.  biggrin.gif

Still learning how to use the OMD as M43 is very different from my D7000.
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OH MYYYYY, is it storewide or? its damn cheap !!! lucky u....
So the sales suppose to be gone right?

btw how come it differ oso much from your D7000? should be interface only but the function wise more or less the same right?

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the warehouse sales was only for 3 days and they had an auction thing going on during the auction...the guy on the MIC would just auction things at the price that he likes....i saw him selling off a 65" samsung LED (Retail 14999) for only RM1k

http://www.shoppingnsales.com/2013/05/31/3...warehouse-sale/

it was in Citta Mall's B1 Carpark and its hot and stuffy.... sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif

the OMD's interface is very different with so much more function when compares to the D7000

by the way, anyone knows how much is the Olympus 17mm@F1.8 lens and where to get d m43 to C mount lens adapter?

i have several c mount CCTV megapixel lens with me and it want to try it out with the OMD.

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QUOTE(Fusion @ Jun 6 2013, 11:27 AM)
the warehouse sales was only for 3 days and they had an auction thing going on during the auction...the guy on the MIC would just auction things at the price that he likes....i saw him selling off a 65" samsung LED (Retail 14999) for only RM1k

http://www.shoppingnsales.com/2013/05/31/3...warehouse-sale/

it was in Citta Mall's B1 Carpark and its hot and stuffy.... sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif

the OMD's interface is very different with so much more function when compares to the D7000

by the way, anyone knows how much is the Olympus 17mm@F1.8 lens and where to get d m43 to C mount lens adapter?

i have several c mount CCTV megapixel lens with me and it want to try it out with the OMD.
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hopefully they create warehouse sale in penang.... else OMD now still expensive with kit lens.. cry.gif

FYI, Olympus 17mm F1.8 now selling around RM1.5k if i not mistaken.. nod.gif
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sounds like the best warehouse sale ever! I would go crazy if I'm there. Then I'll be eating bread for the rest of the month or few months.

Played with a new friend's 45mm f1.8 few days ago. Like the sharpness and bokeh.

I regret not playing with his 25mm f1.4, was rushing to somewhere else.

@subrok007 I bought my 17mm f1.8 around that price too.
next lens i'm planning to get is 60mm f2.8 macro.
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QUOTE(Fusion @ Jun 6 2013, 10:31 AM)
Anyone went to the Harvery Norman warehouse sales last weekend?

I bought my OMD + 12-50mm kitlens in the sales for RM2399.

i was actually targeting the EPL3 as they were throwing the price for RM799 with kit lens but last minute the guy suddenly offered me the OMD for RM2399.  biggrin.gif

I also got Olympus TG-820 weatherproof for only RM200.  biggrin.gif

Still learning how to use the OMD as M43 is very different from my D7000.
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That's a really really good price! shocking.gif
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i have one 14mm f2.5 and 45-200mm , planing to get one wide lens and considering the 12-50mm but heard my friend said that 14mm and 12-50 is not much different. But 7-14 really expansive.
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