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post Feb 17 2013, 11:41 PM, updated 13y ago

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Sony Xperia Z & Sony Xperia ZL


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Android 4.1 Jellybean
1.5GHz Snapdragon S4 pro quad-core
2GB ram
5" 1080p 443ppi Sony HDreality screen LED-backlit LCD with
Dragontrail™
Sony OptiContrast™
Sony Mobile Bravia Engin 2 ™
13 megapixel Sony Exmor RS sensor HDR still photo & HDR video
Pulsed LED camera Flash
Sony Clear Audio+™ with Clear Bass™, Xloud™, Clear Stereo+™, S-Master Digital Amplification™
Wifi Miracast™
WiFi a/b/g/n with WiFi Direct™
2.1 megapixel Exmor R front camera
Skeleton Frame Structure
4G LTE+ & 3G HSPA+
Bluetooth 4.0
HD voice™
MHL™
MicroSDXC
NFC support
Pressure Sensor
10point multi-touch
aGPS and GLONASS
2330 mAh /2370 mAh battery with Fast charging
Infrared IrDA remote functionality
Ingress Protection IP55 certified
Waterproof & Dustproof IP57 certified
SAR value 0.55 watt/kg

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post Feb 17 2013, 11:58 PM

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I don't get it. Why would they launch 2 similar phones when they could have just launched one? Unless the other one is gonna cost cheaper, then it'd be understandable

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Thanks for the effort, TS.

Noob question here, full retail price means with or without data plan?
And also, you may want to include review from local such as soyacincau and lowyat.net?
http://www.lowyat.net/2013/01/17/3690/vide...uick-drop-test/
but one comment about drop test, if you drop it on rough surface such as tar surface, it's very different story lol.
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QUOTE(SyathibiyMegat @ Feb 17 2013, 11:58 PM)
I don't get it. Why would they launch 2 similar phones when they can just launch one? Unless the other one is gonna cost cheaper, then it'd be understandable
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similar spec but with slight differences of features & design to capture more consumers
see 1st post more info spoiler for the differences
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QUOTE(toda_III @ Feb 18 2013, 12:01 AM)
Thanks for the effort, TS.

Noob question here, full retail price means with or without data plan?
And also, you may want to include review from local such as soyacincau and lowyat.net?
http://www.lowyat.net/2013/01/17/3690/vide...uick-drop-test/
but one comment about drop test, if you drop it on rough surface such as tar surface, it's very different story lol.
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i need to go play fireworks 1st, later will continue edit laugh.gif
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post Feb 18 2013, 12:07 AM

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wow not yet sell already V2.. i got feeling this gonna be phone of the year
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QUOTE(SyathibiyMegat @ Feb 17 2013, 11:58 PM)
I don't get it. Why would they launch 2 similar phones when they can just launch one? Unless the other one is gonna cost cheaper, then it'd be understandable
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Sony works in the mysterious way. Even differentiating Japanese and International version, Western and Asian market (the T and TX case) was beyond me.

I guess the absent of dedicated camera button on the Z was done on purpose to improve the selling point on ZL.
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QUOTE(ujelly @ Feb 17 2013, 04:50 PM)
just by accumulating the post that you made here show that you are hurt, if you think the statement are "factual" then why say that to TS, instead you say TS your english is weak, playxboxwill your programming weak even with printscreen  doh.gif , well the more you post, the more it show you are insensible & retarded, who know little to none about IT.
Wtf my post has to do with programming?
Printscreen? I didnt even showed my programming code there
Im just saying the samsung thread is not helpful as sony and iphone thread. Get it??? Or u are the one who retard dont know how to read
These samsung fanboy just destroying this thread.look at how rude they are.
Go hangout at your samseng thread .this is SONY OFFICIAL XPZ thread

Sorry to everyone here. I will ignored after this to keep this thread clean
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QUOTE(playxboxwii @ Feb 18 2013, 12:15 AM)
Wtf my post has to do with programming?
Printscreen? I didnt even showed my programming code there
Im just saying the samsung thread is not helpful as sony and iphone thread. Get it??? Or u are the one who retard dont know how to read
These samsung fanboy just destroying this thread.look at how rude they are.
Go hangout at your samseng thread .this is SONY OFFICIAL XPZ thread

Sorry to everyone here. I will ignored after this to keep this thread clean
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ujelly is on your side la bro. he just gave example of the statement the guy made to you, not that he is saying it to you.
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post Feb 18 2013, 12:26 AM

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oh wait...
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can't wait this 20 febuary~~

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QUOTE(Neo|ofGeo @ Feb 18 2013, 12:29 AM)
Oi!
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can't wait this 20 febuary~~
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i thought 20 feb for europe only
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great review biggrin.gif
i dont like purple color but purple xperia z looks very nice drool.gif
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Nice work TS.

March 6 may be a press review and not launching date too....
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v2 already congrats rclxms.gif

hopefully there won't be any hate post or name calling, if there's any difference in opinion, lets agree to agree and have a healthy discussion smile.gif

hopefully LTE for xperia z works since its 2600 mhz, one of the main reason i didn't get htc butterfly tongue.gif
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sony acc also looks great...why sony MY didnt put at least one of it...aiyaaa
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from the 1st page...zl didnt support 4G malaysia?
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when launching here.?
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QUOTE(kakikubesi @ Feb 18 2013, 01:02 AM)
from the 1st page...zl didnt support 4G malaysia?
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LTE for malaysia is supported for xperia zl according to here

http://developer.sonymobile.com/2013/01/24...ia-smartphones/

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QUOTE(kakikubesi @ Feb 18 2013, 01:02 AM)
from the 1st page...zl didnt support 4G malaysia?
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sry type wrong ady, xperia ZL variant 2 support malaysia 4G laugh.gif
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After reading review from GMSarena & PhoneArena, the camera performance is just average & below expectation. sad.gif sad.gif
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QUOTE(yayiyu99 @ Feb 18 2013, 08:01 AM)
After reading review from GMSarena & PhoneArena, the camera performance is just average & below expectation. sad.gif  sad.gif
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actually all android phones camera are lousy.......
the best are still camera from nokia and maybe iphones.....
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QUOTE(Neo|ofGeo @ Feb 18 2013, 12:29 AM)
Oi!
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oh wait...
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can't wait this 20 febuary~~
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20feb? SG right?

QUOTE(nasiayam @ Feb 18 2013, 12:49 AM)
v2 already congrats  rclxms.gif

hopefully there won't be any hate post or name calling, if there's any difference in opinion, lets agree to agree and have a healthy discussion  smile.gif

hopefully LTE for xperia z works since its 2600 mhz, one of the main reason i didn't get htc butterfly  tongue.gif
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you all can enjoy LTE..me here in penang don have LTE yet, and even all carriers is giving s***ty connection on 3G.. sad.gif
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Hopefully this device will available on time, while we still at this V2
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I am considering this phone but if the price is more than 2k, i might opt out for M7 or S4.
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QUOTE(OptimusStar @ Feb 18 2013, 09:49 AM)
I am considering this phone but if the price is more than 2k, i might opt out for M7 or S4.
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M7 is rm 3k and s4 rm 4k. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(ainuddin @ Feb 18 2013, 09:56 AM)
M7 is rm 3k and s4 rm 4k.  tongue.gif
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even the current butterfly i saw the other day is already 2.4K.. i think m7 is going to be more expensive..
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A video we have been waiting..but still didn't answer our question..
Amanz didn't explore the box.. sleep.gif
First look by Amanz

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Yer why both black n white also so nice. Hard to choose lo.

Btw gsmarena gt xpz review d nod.gif

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QUOTE(jeff10012003 @ Feb 18 2013, 10:30 AM)
A video we have been waiting..but still didn't answer our question..
Amanz didn't explore the box.. sleep.gif
First look by Amanz

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After look this video white not really look nice ler.. cos front black all then back white seems not really integrate the colour. S3 white style nicer.
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QUOTE(WintersuN @ Feb 18 2013, 11:41 AM)
After look this video white not really look nice ler.. cos front black all then back white seems not really integrate the colour. S3 white style nicer.
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agreed actually..i booked mine in black.. the only pros regarding white and purple, is that you will see less fingerprints..
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TS i think the the first post you should correct from "aGPS with Glonass" to "aGPS and Glonass" reason being these are two very different systems.

Sorry just nitpicking tongue.gif
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QUOTE(jeff10012003 @ Feb 18 2013, 11:49 AM)
agreed actually..i booked mine in black.. the only pros regarding white and purple, is that you will see less fingerprints..
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Where did you book it from? I wanted to preorder as well to ensure I get a XZ by 6th March, a basic phone is too..basic,ugh..

Anyway,booked from KL?
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HK pre order free dock & screen protector
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Xperia Z Review GSMArena
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z-review-887.php

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QUOTE(alfredtwl @ Feb 18 2013, 01:14 PM)
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HK pre order free dock & screen protector
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How much bro? All together include shipping and tax if any?
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How much bro? All together include shipping and tax if any?
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just sharing tongue.gif . for me will wait local set. hope MY got free dock also biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(lonelywolf90 @ Feb 18 2013, 12:29 PM)
Where did you book it from? I wanted to preorder as well to ensure I get a XZ by 6th March, a basic phone is too..basic,ugh..

Anyway,booked from KL?
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click the Xperia Z on my siggy to see my preorder.. smile.gif and it's in penang..

QUOTE(alfredtwl @ Feb 18 2013, 02:20 PM)
just sharing  tongue.gif . for me will wait local set. hope MY got free dock also  biggrin.gif
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i hope amanz will do review for the item in box in the next vid..

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got response from amanz...no docking in box.. sad.gif

https://www.facebook.com/AmanzNetwork/posts/166884920126715
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seeing the box
for me the hopes is still there for the dock

cause when you see the unboxing reviews done
almost all consist of the same dimensional packaging

just by the look of the package in the amanz video
knew the dock is not included there

even the UK reviewer got the same type of package
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i met this guy in xda forum - topic Xperia Z IPS Screen discussion [LOOKS PROMISING [VIDEO UPDATED 18/02] refer link below.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2108274

he made a video to make sure how bad the viewing angle of the screen is, but actually quite the opposite, it was very good actually. check out the video below.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoNQcM8T4c8


i wana mentioned 1 thing here, after i read the comment section, he claimed that the display had the protector sheet removed by the sony store. and from the video, we can c the sony logo still present. i even asked him was he certain about it then he reply to me
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I spoke to the people in Sony Center and they confirmed that they took the screen protector off. I think that the issue with Sony logo coming off was only on pre-production models so I wouldn't worry about that too much.


so can we conclude that the production unit will have the logo printed on the body instead of the protector sheet? however personally im still not convince until sum1 will make a drop test or scratch test of the production unit, im sure they will take off the sheet and then the mystery will unveiled itself whether the logo is on the body or the sheet.


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QUOTE(jeff10012003 @ Feb 18 2013, 03:28 PM)
got response from amanz...no docking in box.. sad.gif

https://www.facebook.com/AmanzNetwork/posts/166884920126715
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just wish MY got some pre-order offer, example 1st batch free dock. tongue.gif
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just wish MY got some pre-order offer, example 1st batch free dock.  tongue.gif
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First batch will get a free rubber duck...not dock..lolz. tongue.gif
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just wish MY got some pre-order offer, example 1st batch free dock.  tongue.gif
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sony take my money! tongue.gif
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First batch will get a free rubber duck...not dock..lolz. tongue.gif
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haha.... maybe rubber duck offer from DG ... yellow colour one tongue.gif
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Feb 18 2013, 12:05 AM)
similar spec but with slight differences of features & design to capture more consumers
see 1st post more info spoiler for the differences
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I know. But what's the point of launching ZL when Z is gonna be more attractive? Besides, ZL itself indicates that it should be the one which has the better specs. No?

QUOTE(toda_III @ Feb 18 2013, 12:13 AM)
Sony works in the mysterious way. Even differentiating Japanese and International version, Western and Asian market (the T and TX case) was beyond me.

I guess the absent of dedicated camera button on the Z was done on purpose to improve the selling point on ZL.
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But I don't see any Japanese nor International variation here for both models. Do you?

I don't get it. Why not just focus on the selling of Z? I have a slightest thinking that ZL won't be a success
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QUOTE(SyathibiyMegat @ Feb 18 2013, 05:45 PM)
I know. But what's the point of launching ZL when Z is gonna be more attractive? Besides, ZL itself indicates that it should be the one which has the better specs. No?
But I don't see any Japanese nor International variation here for both models. Do you?

I don't get it. Why not just focus on the selling of Z? I have a slightest thinking that ZL won't be a success
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Japanese version of Xperia Z has slightly different UI (most notifiable on the lockscreen), and infrared remote sensor (to make the phone function as remote control, for TVs, DVDs, not sure about Astro box, maybe TS knows better). It has NTT docomo logo in front too.

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QUOTE(SyathibiyMegat @ Feb 18 2013, 05:45 PM)
I know. But what's the point of launching ZL when Z is gonna be more attractive? Besides, ZL itself indicates that it should be the one which has the better specs. No?
But I don't see any Japanese nor International variation here for both models. Do you?

I don't get it. Why not just focus on the selling of Z? I have a slightest thinking that ZL won't be a success
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actually all depends on the pricing of the ZL model. if the price different is big compare to Z, i will definitely go for ZL. i believe there r few members here also waiting for ZL.

reason? :

1. i dun like glass back of the Z.
2. i dun need water proof and dust proof, will happily exclude it for cheaper price.
3. dun like the covers on all the ports, annoying to me.
4. physical camera button always useful.
5. smaller size, but not so significant, only smaller by a bit.

unless sony is going to Premium the Z model like iphone strategy, if not, more variant of model will attract more customer and sell more unit, ideally.
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QUOTE(SyathibiyMegat @ Feb 18 2013, 05:45 PM)
I know. But what's the point of launching ZL when Z is gonna be more attractive? Besides, ZL itself indicates that it should be the one which has the better specs. No?
But I don't see any Japanese nor International variation here for both models. Do you?

I don't get it. Why not just focus on the selling of Z? I have a slightest thinking that ZL won't be a success
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but i c xperia ZL, it is better looking thn xperia Z laugh.gif
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Feb 18 2013, 06:09 PM)
but i c xperia ZL, it is better looking thn xperia Z  laugh.gif
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I think some if not most girls won't like ZL's camera position. laugh.gif
the camera will be at their chin level haha. Sony didn't think about this trivial marketing strategy. laugh.gif

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QUOTE(toda_III @ Feb 18 2013, 06:17 PM)
I think some if not most girls won't like ZL's camera position.  laugh.gif
the camera will be at their chin level haha. Sony didn't think about this trivial marketing strategy.  laugh.gif
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actually won't ler, if u use Nokia n9 front camera b4, thn u will knw ady  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(uzary @ Feb 18 2013, 04:11 PM)
i met this guy in xda forum - topic Xperia Z IPS Screen discussion [LOOKS PROMISING [VIDEO UPDATED 18/02] refer link below.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2108274

he made a video to make sure how bad the viewing angle of the screen is, but actually quite the opposite, it was very good actually. check out the video below.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoNQcM8T4c8
i wana mentioned 1 thing here, after i read the comment section, he claimed that the display had the protector sheet removed by the sony store. and from the video, we can c the sony logo still present. i even asked him was he certain about it then he reply to me

so can we conclude that the production unit will have the logo printed on the body instead of the protector sheet? however personally im still not convince until sum1 will make a drop test or scratch test of the production unit, im sure they will take off the sheet and then the mystery will unveiled itself whether the logo is on the body or the sheet.
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QUOTE(choonwai11 @ Feb 18 2013, 06:05 PM)
actually all depends on the pricing of the ZL model. if the price different is big compare to Z, i will definitely go for ZL. i believe there r few members here also waiting for ZL.

reason? :

1. i dun like glass back of the Z.
2. i dun need water proof and dust proof, will happily exclude it for cheaper price.
3. dun like the covers on all the ports, annoying to me.
4. physical camera button always useful.
5. smaller size, but not so significant, only smaller by a bit.

unless sony is going to Premium the Z model like iphone strategy, if not, more variant of model will attract more customer and sell more unit, ideally.
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glass back = more fragile + finger print magnet
water and dust proof = not a must for me, just like bonus
covering ports = yes, indeed quite annoying each time need to charge, unless sony design some locking mechanism for those opened flaps.
physical camera button = indeed useful on some occasion. also like bonus if have
smaller size = VERY IMPORTANT TO ME... i don't quite like huge phone
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QUOTE(choonwai11 @ Feb 18 2013, 06:05 PM)
actually all depends on the pricing of the ZL model. if the price different is big compare to Z, i will definitely go for ZL. i believe there r few members here also waiting for ZL.

reason? :

1. i dun like glass back of the Z.
2. i dun need water proof and dust proof, will happily exclude it for cheaper price.
3. dun like the covers on all the ports, annoying to me.
4. physical camera button always useful.
5. smaller size, but not so significant, only smaller by a bit.

unless sony is going to Premium the Z model like iphone strategy, if not, more variant of model will attract more customer and sell more unit, ideally.
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QUOTE(uzary @ Feb 18 2013, 04:11 PM)
i met this guy in xda forum - topic Xperia Z IPS Screen discussion [LOOKS PROMISING [VIDEO UPDATED 18/02] refer link below.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2108274

he made a video to make sure how bad the viewing angle of the screen is, but actually quite the opposite, it was very good actually. check out the video below.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoNQcM8T4c8
i wana mentioned 1 thing here, after i read the comment section, he claimed that the display had the protector sheet removed by the sony store. and from the video, we can c the sony logo still present. i even asked him was he certain about it then he reply to me

so can we conclude that the production unit will have the logo printed on the body instead of the protector sheet? however personally im still not convince until sum1 will make a drop test or scratch test of the production unit, im sure they will take off the sheet and then the mystery will unveiled itself whether the logo is on the body or the sheet.
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Actually there's a screen protector on top of the shatterproof sheet..so there's 2 layers...Maybe they took off just the screen protector?It's hard to say...
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New review i think..
sorry if already posted..
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z-review-887.php

Opps,sorry,just notice it was posted already..

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Xperia Z in toilet bowl. sweat.gif

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPM8OR6W6WE
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Something to think on. Imagine if this solution is sprayed on Z

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wait for oledphobic SP?  unsure.gif  tongue.gif

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wow this is cool. i wonder how muc is it, myb can do some business with it, say RM50-100 per phone. brows.gif iinm, from the FAQ, it stated, the coating can last 2-8 months.
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QUOTE(jeff10012003 @ Feb 18 2013, 03:05 PM)
click the Xperia Z on my siggy to see my preorder.. smile.gif and it's in penang..
i hope amanz will do review for the item in box in the next vid..
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Thanks for the pre-order info

That shop's boss is one of my former friend. Will text her for more info laugh.gif
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Thanks for the pre-order info

That shop's boss is one of my former friend. Will text her for more info  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(jeff10012003 @ Feb 19 2013, 02:57 PM)
Such a small world we're having here. Everyone's related to everyone somehow. tongue.gif
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Anyway, saw your receipt and it shows due date to be at 23rd of Feb.

Are you going to get it at that date? brows.gif
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Anyway, saw your receipt and it shows due date to be at 23rd of Feb.

Are you going to get it at that date?  brows.gif
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QUOTE(jeff10012003 @ Feb 19 2013, 03:30 PM)
already checked with them the other day..nope, be getting it the same as everyone, on 6 march cry.gif
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Do you know if the package includes the dock as well?

Was thinking of getting a phone and saw this at the right time laugh.gif
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QUOTE(jeff10012003 @ Feb 19 2013, 03:30 PM)
already checked with them the other day..nope, be getting it the same as everyone, on 6 march cry.gif
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Do you know if the package includes the dock as well?

Was thinking of getting a phone and saw this at the right time  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(uzary @ Feb 19 2013, 03:35 PM)
bro, got any freebies such as wireless speaker or wireless headset for pre order? dock included too?
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i posted the other day regarding amanz reply on docking..it wont be included... Thanks Sony! (https://www.facebook.com/AmanzNetwork/posts/166884920126715)

Regarding freebies, for my preorder as I'm not ordering from Sony Center, I will only be receiving flip case and screen protector.. I asked Sony Center in QB, they say no preorder.. it seems our market is really really not looked into at all.. vmad.gif

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QUOTE(jeff10012003 @ Feb 19 2013, 03:41 PM)
i posted the other day regarding amanz reply on docking..it wont be included... Thanks Sony! (https://www.facebook.com/AmanzNetwork/posts/166884920126715)

Regarding freebies, for my preorder as I'm not ordering from Sony Center, I will only be receiving flip case and screen protector.. I asked Sony Center in QB, they say no preorder.. it seems our market is really really not looked into at all..  vmad.gif
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So if I don't pre order, I can just walk in to Sony Center at 6th March and say 'I want to buy a Xperia Z'? laugh.gif

Wonder if Sony Center will have freebies or not drool.gif
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QUOTE(Corrupted Spirits @ Feb 19 2013, 03:46 PM)
So if I don't pre order, I can just walk in to Sony Center at 6th March and say 'I want to buy a Xperia Z'?  laugh.gif

Wonder if Sony Center will have freebies or not  drool.gif
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Supposedly, ya.. biggrin.gif
I really hope there are freebies..

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QUOTE(jeff10012003 @ Feb 19 2013, 03:49 PM)
Supposedly, ya..  biggrin.gif
I really hope there are freebies..
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But if Sony Center is giving freebies, then you must be at lost cause you ordered from M-Fone?

Or you're going to forfeit your deposit? tongue.gif
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Xperia Z in toilet bowl. sweat.gif


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But if Sony Center is giving freebies, then you must be at lost cause you ordered from M-Fone?

Or you're going to forfeit your deposit?  tongue.gif
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They informed me already, if the due date is already passed and the phone is still not here, I can collect back my deposit.. So I'll try to check with other Sony Center if they do have plans to give freebies.. However I still doubt they will give freebies.. Sony Mobile My and Sony Malaysia on FB didn't mention a tiny detail regarding sales on the phone, except the various not-helping-photos and the question how bad do we want the phone..
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QUOTE(jeff10012003 @ Feb 19 2013, 03:57 PM)
They informed me already, if the due date is already passed and the phone is still not here, I can collect back my deposit.. So I'll try to check with other Sony Center if they do have plans to give freebies.. However I still doubt they will give freebies.. Sony Mobile My and Sony Malaysia on FB didn't mention a tiny detail regarding sales on the phone, except the various not-helping-photos and the question how bad do we want the phone..
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Do let us know if any Sony Center in Penang is planning on giving freebies.

I remembered Sony Center in Gurney gave freebies for Sony Tablet when it was released. Too bad I was a little to late for the promotion and had to buy that 'free' tablet cover
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Anyone at Singapore and interested with Singtel package, you can get it soon with freebies.

https://www.singtelshop.com/xperiaz/?utm_so...ampaign=xperiaz
  • FREE Sony NFC speakers SRS-BTV5
  • FREE Xperia Z Official Guide & Workshop Voucher

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Feb 19 2013, 04:03 PM)
Anyone at Singapore and interested with Singtel package, you can get it soon with freebies.

https://www.singtelshop.com/xperiaz/?utm_so...ampaign=xperiaz

  • FREE Sony NFC speakers SRS-BTV5
  • FREE Xperia Z Official Guide & Workshop Voucher

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They already started giving freebies.. both sony malaysia site and celcom not even mentioning anything.. sad.gif
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QUOTE(jeff10012003 @ Feb 19 2013, 04:10 PM)
They already started giving freebies.. both sony malaysia site and celcom not even mentioning anything.. sad.gif
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Then better wait S4 compare spec adi.
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http://gizmodo.com/5982478/the-best-smartphone-camera

The Best Smartphone Camera (Apple iPhone 5, Nokia Lumia 920, Samsung Galaxy S III, Google Nexus 4, and the newly announced Blackberry Z10)

What about xperia z???? sad.gif

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Feb 19 2013, 04:11 PM)
Yalo, Malaysia so silent...
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QUOTE(stevenryl86 @ Feb 19 2013, 04:13 PM)
Release date? March?

Then better wait S4 compare spec adi.
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Release date? March?

Then better wait S4 compare spec adi.
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6th March

But in mobile world, you can't compare much. If you wait for S4 spec, then by the time S4 is going on sale, there will be another phone with a better spec that are going to be released. Then you are going to compare S4 with that. And the process will go on and on laugh.gif
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Im on S3 now planning to change either s4 or xperia Z

if S4 have a physical button i gonna quit for s4 and go for xperia Z
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QUOTE(nasiayam @ Feb 19 2013, 04:14 PM)
http://gizmodo.com/5982478/the-best-smartphone-camera

The Best Smartphone Camera (Apple iPhone 5, Nokia Lumia 920, Samsung Galaxy S III, Google Nexus 4, and the newly announced Blackberry Z10)

What about xperia z????  sad.gif

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QUOTE(Corrupted Spirits @ Feb 19 2013, 04:16 PM)
6th March

But in mobile world, you can't compare much. If you wait for S4 spec, then by the time S4 is going on sale, there will be another phone with a better spec that are going to be released. Then you are going to compare S4 with that. And the process will go on and on  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(jeff10012003 @ Feb 19 2013, 03:41 PM)
i posted the other day regarding amanz reply on docking..it wont be included... Thanks Sony! (https://www.facebook.com/AmanzNetwork/posts/166884920126715)

Regarding freebies, for my preorder as I'm not ordering from Sony Center, I will only be receiving flip case and screen protector.. I asked Sony Center in QB, they say no preorder.. it seems our market is really really not looked into at all..  vmad.gif
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myb if sony doing a road show, they will throw some cool freebies with it. iinm when bro ninja bought his xperia tablets s at the road show, a lot of things were bundle together, and he can buy the keyboard case for a discounted price too.
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quite questionable as to why..maybe they didn't get a unit of testing?
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QUOTE(jeff10012003 @ Feb 19 2013, 03:57 PM)
They informed me already, if the due date is already passed and the phone is still not here, I can collect back my deposit.. So I'll try to check with other Sony Center if they do have plans to give freebies.. However I still doubt they will give freebies.. Sony Mobile My and Sony Malaysia on FB didn't mention a tiny detail regarding sales on the phone, except the various not-helping-photos and the question how bad do we want the phone..
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but from sony center or local shops like senQ will be cheaper? Cos last time i buy from sony center my walkman seem like they dun give diskaun
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but from sony center or local shops like senQ will be cheaper? Cos last time i buy from sony center my walkman seem like they dun give diskaun
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We can only wait until 6 march to know regarding pricing.. smile.gif

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We can only wait until 6 march to know regarding pricing.. smile.gif
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but from sony center or local shops like senQ will be cheaper? Cos last time i buy from sony center my walkman seem like they dun give diskaun
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I think all shops will be selling at RRP.

The differences I think will be in the freebies they provide laugh.gif
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6th March

But in mobile world, you can't compare much. If you wait for S4 spec, then by the time S4 is going on sale, there will be another phone with a better spec that are going to be released. Then you are going to compare S4 with that. And the process will go on and on  laugh.gif
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I am waiting for tonight HTC announcement. Then 14/March - S IV announcement before decide. smile.gif

Ya, new phone keep coming up, but after the S IV announcement, another cycle was for year end already, nothing related anymore.

Now every year is 2 cycle new phone announcement. I always ops for 1st cycle. Hehe...
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I am waiting for tonight HTC announcement. Then 14/March - S IV announcement before decide. smile.gif

Ya, new phone keep coming up, but after the S IV announcement, another cycle was for year end already, nothing related anymore.

Now every year is 2 cycle new phone announcement. I always ops for 1st cycle. Hehe...
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how about the rumors google moto X phone?.. drool.gif
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Dunno lei, Motorola... hmmm.......... I never buy any moto in my life before. Unless it superb cool, or else pass by even is Android 5.0 .... haha
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too bad not in asia market any more, but still looking forward for X phone.
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QUOTE(choonwai11 @ Feb 19 2013, 05:42 PM)
i used 6 motorola phones, not the best hardware and software, but build quality 1st class. support very weak in malaysia, including software upgrade very weak.

too bad not in asia market any more, but still looking forward for X phone.
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Motorola always solid build, just it software never please me, so until never use yet.

I believe X phone sure solid, it only probably announcing on May, so push that to 2nd cycle la.. hehe
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QUOTE(WintersuN @ Feb 19 2013, 04:39 PM)
i mean generally la.. is it more worth to buy in sony center or outside shop?
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I remember getting my xperia arc in the 1st or 2nd week when its launched in malaysia at my usual telephone shop..

The rrp was 2199 iinm but the shop sell me ori set for 1950 only..and it includes all the freebies that sony promised..

I think it depends on the situation..but wont you be surveying abit especially when you are gonna buy something this expensive to compare price 1st? tongue.gif
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jellybean 4.2.2 + new kernal version 3.6 for xperia Z is coming soon laugh.gif

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QUOTE(ck.chunkeat @ Feb 19 2013, 06:13 PM)
I remember getting my xperia arc in the 1st or 2nd week when its launched in malaysia at my usual telephone shop..

The rrp was 2199 iinm but the shop sell me ori set for 1950 only..and it includes all the freebies that sony promised..

I think it depends on the situation..but wont you be surveying abit especially when you are gonna buy something this expensive to compare price 1st? tongue.gif
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Thanks for your answer.. this is my first time buying sony's smartphone..so i don't know how to answer.. smile.gif
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jellybean 4.2.2 + new kernal version 3.6 for xperia Z is coming soon laugh.gif

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i think this might only be alpha build..


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wow DoomLord already found a way to root Z..awesome
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saw the post.. i think ours will not be locked bootloader, so we can root directly.. rclxm9.gif

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saw the post.. i think ours will not be locked bootloader, so we can root directly..  rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(jeff10012003 @ Feb 19 2013, 08:15 PM)
Thanks for your answer.. this is my first time buying sony's smartphone..so i don't know how to answer.. smile.gif
ya..saw it at xperia blog, too..quite surprised with the update, cause even now samsung just starting to roll out 4.1.2..
i think this might only be alpha build..
saw the post.. i think ours will not be locked bootloader, so we can root directly..  rclxm9.gif
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i think so, but hopefully sony is able to release the update in 1 month time
bcauz they say they want 2 do it
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i think so, but hopefully sony is able to release the update in 1 month time
bcauz they say they want 2 do it
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HTC One leak is out, It was mention using Qualcomm Snapdragon 600 chipset with four Krait 300 cores, 2nd device using latest Qualcomm Snapdragon 600. Another was LG Optimus G Pro.

Means XPERIA Z no longer in my list. Hehe! smile.gif

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Feb 19 2013, 10:27 PM)
HTC One leak is out, It was mention using Qualcomm Snapdragon 600 chipset with four Krait 300 cores, 2nd device using latest Qualcomm Snapdragon 600. Another was LG Optimus G Pro.

Means XPERIA Z no longer in my list. Hehe! smile.gif
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waiting 2 c motorola phone X thn
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geng, but kinda disappointed a bit, bcauz is hoping to c snapdragon 800  laugh.gif
waiting 2 c motorola phone X thn
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Motorola Phone X only announcing on May, it was for 2nd cycle, too late for me. Haha!
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want 2 the power of snapdragon 800 mar

it is hard to chase new tech n always buy new stuff lar, like u c htc n sony
like few months new devices ady laugh.gif

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Fast fast sony, change the xperia z chipset to snapdragon 600 so can fight with htc one tongue.gif
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QUOTE(nasiayam @ Feb 20 2013, 12:42 AM)
Fast fast sony, change the xperia z chipset to snapdragon 600 so can fight with htc one  tongue.gif
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how strong is snapdragon 600 compared to the s4 pro snapdragon?
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htc one manage to score near 12000 in the quadrant benchmark below

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=floH0ASIglU

xperia z only manage a bit over 8000

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ad1FIk9IA4A

since both benchmark is not run under same circumstances, hard to make a good comparison, but a difference of 4000???? surely snapdragon 600 is a lot faster than s4 pro

if htc one is launch end of march, that will surely give sony a run for its money

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QUOTE(junsheng @ Feb 19 2013, 10:47 PM)
if buy phone, i'm not going to wait lar, just want 2 c they use new snapdragon 800 or not only  laugh.gif
want 2 the power of snapdragon 800 mar

it is hard to chase new tech n always buy new stuff lar, like u c htc n sony
like few months new devices ady  laugh.gif
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QUOTE(nasiayam @ Feb 20 2013, 01:07 AM)
htc one manage to score near 12000 in the quadrant benchmark below

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=floH0ASIglU

xperia z only manage a bit over 8000

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ad1FIk9IA4A

since both benchmark is not run under same circumstances, hard to make a good comparison, but a difference of 4000???? surely snapdragon 600 is a lot faster than s4 pro

if htc one is launch end of march, that will surely give sony a run for its money
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Lol, 12000 and 8000 for xz? Demm, i comming from xperia arc, only 1200 quadrant score.. Xtually i being wondering, isnt it kinda overkill oredy for smartphone? N not to mentioned the rumored octa cores from s4.. sweat.gif

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Lol, 12000 and 8000 for xz? Demm, i comming from xperia arc, only 1200 quadrant score.. Xtually i being wondering, isnt it kinda overkill oredy for smartphone? N not to mentioned the rumored octa cores from s4.. sweat.gif
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XZ and Butterfly have same performance since both use S4 Pro.
Butterfly quadrant also 8K. Bur both lose to One though doh.gif
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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Feb 20 2013, 01:11 AM)
I only buy one phone per year. So will choose the most I like. Not only spec, design was count as well. smile.gif an screen quality &smoothness will be my main concern.
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QUOTE(waveweaver @ Feb 20 2013, 01:17 AM)
XZ and Butterfly have same performance since both use S4 Pro.
Butterfly quadrant also 8K. Bur both lose to One though doh.gif
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If not much different, then Qualcomm can close shop already. He he.
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QUOTE(waveweaver @ Feb 20 2013, 01:17 AM)
XZ and Butterfly have same performance since both use S4 Pro.
Butterfly quadrant also 8K. Bur both lose to One though doh.gif
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if they cannot design a better processor,
they can close shop fire all their architecture n follow original arm 15 design instead laugh.gif
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M7 no lte, no sd slot ... Most likely will get XZ . Hmmm or  shld I wait for s4 . Decision decision
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how strong is snapdragon 600 compared to the s4 pro snapdragon?
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snapdragon 600 is just a rename of s4 pro .
APQ8064T vs APQ8064

I would say the performance different cannot be notice in real life .
About 15% faster .
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this z and zl coming real soon!!.
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huh which variation u mean?
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i tot u mean xperia Z or xperia ZL 4g version laugh.gif

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i tot u mean xperia Z or xperia ZL 4g version laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Feb 19 2013, 10:27 PM)
HTC One leak is out, It was mention using Qualcomm Snapdragon 600 chipset with four Krait 300 cores, 2nd device using latest Qualcomm Snapdragon 600. Another was LG Optimus G Pro.

Means XPERIA Z no longer in my list. Hehe! smile.gif
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HTC One looks like a good phone, but stupidly, they did not give a MicroSD slot. That is extremely important for me.

After having experience file transfer with a few phones that has an internal memory only, I will never buy one. Too much of a hit or miss when it comes to connecting and mounting the memory to a computer, slow transfer, can not queue multiple files etc.

That aside, I don't understand why Sony can not come out with a 32GB model.
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ok, next, flush the toilet  brows.gif
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spoil my mood lar laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Areas Elysian @ Feb 20 2013, 10:19 AM)
HTC One looks like a good phone, but stupidly, they did not give a MicroSD slot. That is extremely important for me.

After having experience file transfer with a few phones that has an internal memory only, I will never buy one. Too much of a hit or miss when it comes to connecting and mounting the memory to a computer, slow transfer, can not queue multiple files etc.

That aside, I don't understand why Sony can not come out with a 32GB model.
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i think there might be a problem with ur phone ady
bcauz nomally can transfer multiple files 1, transfer won't be so slow even with fsync on ar

or maybe it is restricted in the system? hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Areas Elysian @ Feb 20 2013, 10:19 AM)
HTC One looks like a good phone, but stupidly, they did not give a MicroSD slot. That is extremely important for me.

After having experience file transfer with a few phones that has an internal memory only, I will never buy one. Too much of a hit or miss when it comes to connecting and mounting the memory to a computer, slow transfer, can not queue multiple files etc.

That aside, I don't understand why Sony can not come out with a 32GB model.
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why not just use cloud service? i duno i duno have a andriod device before hehe...
but what i heard cloud service is nice...especially dropbox... although i only use dropbox in PC only tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Areas Elysian @ Feb 20 2013, 10:19 AM)
HTC One looks like a good phone, but stupidly, they did not give a MicroSD slot. That is extremely important for me.

After having experience file transfer with a few phones that has an internal memory only, I will never buy one. Too much of a hit or miss when it comes to connecting and mounting the memory to a computer, slow transfer, can not queue multiple files etc.

That aside, I don't understand why Sony can not come out with a 32GB model.
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deja vu... Xperia S, anyone? tongue.gif

QUOTE(Agito666 @ Feb 20 2013, 10:29 AM)
why not just use cloud service? i duno i duno have a andriod device before hehe...
but what i heard cloud service is nice...especially dropbox... although i only use dropbox in PC only  tongue.gif
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for those with a decent broadband package+unifi at home, can la use cloud service..
im only using Upax and only P1 20GB at home..so cloud is not a choice for me..
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Xperia Z just smoke by HTC One, jump ship to HTC One.

Xperia Z real deal is just the water/dust resist.

TFT screen always have issues
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No expansion slot for memory is a big drawback. To cloud advocates, try justifying keeping TV/Anime series on cloud.
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QUOTE(redlyfs @ Feb 20 2013, 11:12 AM)
No expansion slot for memory is a big drawback. To cloud advocates, try justifying keeping homemade 3gp series on cloud.
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Feb 20 2013, 10:26 AM)
i think there might be a problem with ur phone ady
bcauz nomally can transfer multiple files 1, transfer won't be so slow even with fsync on ar

or maybe it is restricted in the system?  hmm.gif
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Nothing wrong with the phone. It is just the limitation of internal memories. Internal memory uses MTP or Media Transfer Protocol, which has two drawbacks: the inability to have more than 1 simultanious transfer, and it is slower when transfering large files when compared to MSC (USB Mass Storage Device).

QUOTE(Agito666 @ Feb 20 2013, 10:29 AM)
why not just use cloud service? i duno i duno have a andriod device before hehe...
but what i heard cloud service is nice...especially dropbox... although i only use dropbox in PC only  tongue.gif
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As good as cloud services are, they don't offer much quotas. For simple transfers and all, I agree, it is an alternative, but still, compare the difference:
Dropbox: Select photo -> Set to upload to Dropbox -> Sync Dropbox on PC -> View photo on PC
MSC: Plug phone to computer -> Open DCIM folder and view photo on PC

You can't argue with the simplicity and speed of MSC. What if I need to transfer a file to a client who does not have Dropbox on his PC/Laptop?

QUOTE(stevenryl86 @ Feb 20 2013, 10:57 AM)
Xperia Z just smoke by HTC One, jump ship to HTC One.

Xperia Z real deal is just the water/dust resist.

TFT screen always have issues
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How is the Xperia Z smoked? Same RAM, same GPU, just a little slower on the CPU side.

Enjoy your internal 32/64GB memory. I'll be enjoying my 64GB and later end of the year, 128GB MicroSD memory.

TFT screen always have issues? Do you know how silly that statement is? Google what is TFT, and you would realise that the HTC One uses TFT as well. smile.gif
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QUOTE(stevenryl86 @ Feb 20 2013, 10:57 AM)
Xperia Z just smoke by HTC One, jump ship to HTC One.

Xperia Z real deal is just the water/dust resist.

TFT screen always have issues
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Spec-wise, yes. Storage wise, meh.
Having all your data in there with no removable storage could be a problem when one second your phone decided to commit harakiri.. happened to me once.

QUOTE(redlyfs @ Feb 20 2013, 11:12 AM)
No expansion slot for memory is a big drawback. To cloud advocates, try justifying keeping TV/Anime series on cloud.
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even if the phone is equipped with 32gb/64gb internal, i do agree it wont be enough..

QUOTE(junsheng @ Feb 20 2013, 11:13 AM)
corrected 4 the lulz laugh.gif
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still 3gp? i already watching mkv.. brows.gif
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QUOTE(Areas Elysian @ Feb 20 2013, 11:16 AM)
Nothing wrong with the phone. It is just the limitation of internal memories. Internal memory uses MTP or Media Transfer Protocol, which has two drawbacks: the inability to have more than 1 simultanious transfer, and it is slower when transfering large files when compared to MSC (USB Mass Storage Device).
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QUOTE(jeff10012003 @ Feb 20 2013, 11:20 AM)
Spec-wise, yes. Storage wise, meh.
Having all your data in there with no removable storage could be a problem when one second your phone decided to commit harakiri.. happened to me once.
even if the phone is equipped with 32gb/64gb internal, i do agree it wont be enough..
still 3gp? i already watching mkv..  brows.gif
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QUOTE(jeff10012003 @ Feb 20 2013, 10:52 AM)
deja vu... Xperia S, anyone? tongue.gif
for those with a decent broadband package+unifi at home, can la use cloud service..
im only using Upax and only P1 20GB at home..so cloud is not a choice for me..
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i using streamyx 1mbps only tongue.gif
duno i never use cloud service hehe. cable all the way.

QUOTE(Areas Elysian @ Feb 20 2013, 11:16 AM)

As good as cloud services are, they don't offer much quotas. For simple transfers and all, I agree, it is an alternative, but still, compare the difference:
Dropbox: Select photo -> Set to upload to Dropbox -> Sync Dropbox on PC -> View photo on PC
MSC: Plug phone to computer -> Open DCIM folder and view photo on PC

You can't argue with the simplicity and speed of MSC. What if I need to transfer a file to a client who does not have Dropbox on his PC/Laptop?
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if you mean photos then i really use MSC method lulz. never use dropbox cloud hehe, only use dropbox in PC to PC

still stuck with n8 tho sweat.gif
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SnapDragon 600 is using 32-bit dual-channel LPDDR3

S4 for Xperia Z is only Dual-channel 533 MHz (8.5 GB/sec)

RAM difference / clock difference

At this stage of tech/wireless internet etc, you need a SD card? Cloud Storage your best friend

I'm using 16gb it overkill for me. Yes different ppl different usage though

HTC One 32gb is another over kill -.-
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Feb 20 2013, 11:23 AM)
i using streamyx 1mbps only  tongue.gif
duno i never use cloud service hehe. cable all the way.
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QUOTE(stevenryl86 @ Feb 20 2013, 11:26 AM)
SnapDragon 600 is using 32-bit dual-channel LPDDR3

S4 for Xperia Z is only Dual-channel 533 MHz (8.5 GB/sec)

RAM difference / clock difference

At this stage of tech/wireless internet etc, you need a SD card? Cloud Storage your best friend

I'm using 16gb it overkill for me. Yes different ppl different usage though

HTC One 32gb is another over kill -.-
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Regarding cloud storage, i think having a sd card expandable is muc better than cloud because of 2 reasons, 1- our internet speed. 2- data consumed. Yes i know the speed of our broadband from telco today can be very fast, my iphone 5 speedtest is at 6.6mbps. Also when lte come, it will be muc faster however, need to consider area of coverage. Not all area i able to get the max speed for my phone. And also, let say we keep all our anime/movie on cloud, imagined how much data we will use to watch it. Also, in a area without a good internet coverage/or no internet, cloud is impossible to access.
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QUOTE(stevenryl86 @ Feb 20 2013, 11:26 AM)
SnapDragon 600 is using 32-bit dual-channel LPDDR3

S4 for Xperia Z is only Dual-channel 533 MHz (8.5 GB/sec)

RAM difference / clock difference

At this stage of tech/wireless internet etc, you need a SD card? Cloud Storage your best friend

I'm using 16gb it overkill for me. Yes different ppl different usage though

HTC One 32gb is another over kill -.-
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Technologically, cloud storage is good.

But it's still subject to internet availability, the fact that most mobile data plans have quotas, and most cloud storage are very limited with more storage to be purchased on a per month basis.

Like you say, different people, different usage. 16gb, just install one big name 3D game on your phone and it's already 2-3gb used. GPS map data for SEA countries + Australia will already take up a good 1.5GB.. add a few more applications/programs with some videos/music/photos, you can easily see all that disappear.

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Thanks for the info regarding the RAM difference. That would mean that while both XPZ and HTC One theoretically can have the same amount of data in the RAM, the HTC One would be able to pull them out faster from the clock difference, as well as process it faster.

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Eheheh ^^; I also play PSX games on phone. Not to mention music. My 32GB sd card is always in the red. ROMs alone 12GB ( PSX, GBA, NES, SNES, NGP etc etc ), Android games 10GB, Music 8GB, the rest of space main main with TV series ones I watched and have yet watched.
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QUOTE(redlyfs @ Feb 20 2013, 11:56 AM)
Eheheh ^^; I also play PSX games on phone. Not to mention music. My 32GB sd card is always in the red. ROMs alone 12GB ( PSX, GBA, NES, SNES, NGP etc etc ), Android games 10GB, Music 8GB, the rest of space main main with TV series ones I watched and have yet watched.
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Eheheh ^^; I also play PSX games on phone. Not to mention music. My 32GB sd card is always in the red. ROMs alone 12GB ( PSX, GBA, NES, SNES, NGP etc etc ), Android games 10GB, Music 8GB, the rest of space main main with TV series ones I watched and have yet watched.
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Can ask wat kind of pS games can play on the phone r? LIke FF13, Strett fighter and stuff? Need to pay to download r? How much cost?
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Can ask wat kind of pS games can play on the phone r? LIke FF13, Strett fighter and stuff? Need to pay to download r? How much cost?
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ps1 games can..
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Can ask wat kind of pS games can play on the phone r? LIke FF13, Strett fighter and stuff? Need to pay to download r? How much cost?
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Play using emulator. You download a Play Station emulator (paid app, I think) and then you get the iso of the game. It's only PS1/PSX games from memory. There is no Play Station 2 emulators out there? (someone correct me, I haven't done this in ages). So for example, Final Fantasy VII, you would need the iso for all 3 discs on your phone. Playing on the other hand will be via on-screen keypad. Of course, if you want to go all out you can connect a USB/Bluetooth Play Station styled controller and map the keys to it. LOL
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Play using emulator. You download a Play Station emulator (paid app, I think) and then you get the iso of the game. It's only PS1/PSX games from memory. There is no Play Station 2 emulators out there? (someone correct me, I haven't done this in ages). So for example, Final Fantasy VII, you would need the iso for all 3 discs on your phone. Playing on the other hand will be via on-screen keypad. Of course, if you want to go all out you can connect a USB/Bluetooth Play Station styled controller and map the keys to it. LOL
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y muz download apps? I tot the phone got dunno wat playstation network preload? That is not the app to play PS games?
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Not to mention when using cloud based storage also does consumes battery when uploading files , especially large ones.
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y muz download apps? I tot the phone got dunno wat playstation network preload? That is not the app to play PS games?
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Play Station Mobile

It's not an ability to play PSX/PS1 games.

More info:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_Mobile
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_PlayS...on_Mobile_games
http://www.playstation.com/psm/index_e.html
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y muz download apps? I tot the phone got dunno wat playstation network preload? That is not the app to play PS games?
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Some more even if u want to use PSM for the phone, u will still need to download the app from here..
Official preinstalled version is only available in US and Canada..
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Nothing wrong with the phone. It is just the limitation of internal memories. Internal memory uses MTP or Media Transfer Protocol, which has two drawbacks: the inability to have more than 1 simultanious transfer, and it is slower when transfering large files when compared to MSC (USB Mass Storage Device).
As good as cloud services are, they don't offer much quotas. For simple transfers and all, I agree, it is an alternative, but still, compare the difference:
Dropbox: Select photo -> Set to upload to Dropbox -> Sync Dropbox on PC -> View photo on PC
MSC: Plug phone to computer -> Open DCIM folder and view photo on PC

You can't argue with the simplicity and speed of MSC. What if I need to transfer a file to a client who does not have Dropbox on his PC/Laptop?
How is the Xperia Z smoked? Same RAM, same GPU, just a little slower on the CPU side.

Enjoy your internal 32/64GB memory. I'll be enjoying my 64GB and later end of the year, 128GB MicroSD memory.

TFT screen always have issues? Do you know how silly that statement is? Google what is TFT, and you would realise that the HTC One uses TFT as well. smile.gif
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The S600 performance was one ahead over S4 Pro. It not slightly different.

Sony is TFT LCD & HTC is Super LCD 3 LCD.

TFT & Super LCD 3 is LCD type and Super LCD 3 quality was much much way better than TFT.

Your statement was totally wrong, not HTC and Sony also TFT, is both also LCD but different type.

Above 2 part already completely smoke Xperia Z. Xperia Z still win in having water and dusk proof but both not really important compare to LCD quality and performance.

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I can't believe Sony can finally go head to head with HTC this year. I could care less for S4, yet another platiscky design phone.
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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Feb 20 2013, 03:15 PM)
The S600 performance was one ahead over S4 Pro. It not slightly different.

Sony is TFT LCD & HTC is Super LCD 3 LCD.

TFT & Super LCD 3 is LCD type and Super LCD 3 quality was much much way better than TFT.

Your statement was totally wrong, not HTC and Sony also TFT, is both also LCD but different type.

Above 2 part already completely smoke Xperia Z. Xperia Z still win in having water and dusk proof but both not really important compare to LCD quality and performance.
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S600 is a new generation improvement over the S4 Pro. If it's not ahead, something is wrong.

Regarding your statement on the LCD... I can only facepalm..

Your statement of both being LCD is correct. Even my Casio watch is a LCD.

What I am correcting is the term TFT being used. Did you know that the Super LCD is still a TFT technology? It's just pretty much marketing speak, just like how Samsung calls their LED backlit LCD the LED TV... until you get people thinking that LED TV is a whole new screen technology over LCD.. =\

As for smoking the Xperia Z, yes and no. Depends on the user. For people like you who buys phones based on benchmarks and viewing the screen from the corners.. maybe. But I intend to actually use my phone, and I view my phone with it facing directly at me. And I also need big storage for all my data, removable ones. Not internal ones that are limited to MTP. So no, to me, the HTC One does not smoke the Xperia Z.
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i still like xperia z even though htc is much more faster, there will always be a faster phone tomorrow smile.gif samsung s4 coming soon, that will surely blow the competition away again

no micro sd slot is a big letdown for me, i will consider cloud storage when the carriers ul/dl speed improves or at least when the lte speed is suffice

i wonder if lte on htc one supports the band than we use in malaysia, no details from htc website yet on that

personally i like the design of xperia z very much, with the launch of htc one hopefully we can get a good price for xperia z from sony tongue.gif
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QUOTE(Areas Elysian @ Feb 20 2013, 03:49 PM)
S600 is a new generation improvement over the S4 Pro. If it's not ahead, something is wrong.

Regarding your statement on the LCD... I can only facepalm..

Your statement of both being LCD is correct. Even my Casio watch is a LCD.

What I am correcting is the term TFT being used. Did you know that the Super LCD is still a TFT technology? It's just pretty much marketing speak, just like how Samsung calls their LED backlit LCD the LED TV... until you get people thinking that LED TV is a whole new screen technology over LCD.. =\

As for smoking the Xperia Z, yes and no. Depends on the user. For people like you who buys phones based on benchmarks and viewing the screen from the corners.. maybe. But I intend to actually use my phone, and I view my phone with it facing directly at me. And I also need big storage for all my data, removable ones. Not internal ones that are limited to MTP. So no, to me, the HTC One does not smoke the Xperia Z.
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ya, even amoled also use tft technology inside rclxms.gif

for me all my movies, anime and tv shows use a lot of space, sd card easier and faster to transfer, i have note 2 and also nexus 4, so i know sd card transfer much easier and faster
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ya, even amoled also use tft technology inside  rclxms.gif

for me all my movies, anime and tv shows use a lot of space, sd card easier and faster to transfer, i have note 2 and also nexus 4, so i know sd card transfer much easier and faster
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U are right no matter it is SLCD, IPS, TN, ASV, PLS all are TFT based.
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With USB OTG, watching anime, movies is even easier....transferring very large files into a phone still takes a while though. Besides, how many times do we have to watch those that it deserves a space in our SDcard. A few favorites maybe but not anything more.
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QUOTE(Areas Elysian @ Feb 20 2013, 03:49 PM)
S600 is a new generation improvement over the S4 Pro. If it's not ahead, something is wrong.

Regarding your statement on the LCD... I can only facepalm..

Your statement of both being LCD is correct. Even my Casio watch is a LCD.

What I am correcting is the term TFT being used. Did you know that the Super LCD is still a TFT technology? It's just pretty much marketing speak, just like how Samsung calls their LED backlit LCD the LED TV... until you get people thinking that LED TV is a whole new screen technology over LCD.. =\

As for smoking the Xperia Z, yes and no. Depends on the user. For people like you who buys phones based on benchmarks and viewing the screen from the corners.. maybe. But I intend to actually use my phone, and I view my phone with it facing directly at me. And I also need big storage for all my data, removable ones. Not internal ones that are limited to MTP. So no, to me, the HTC One does not smoke the Xperia Z.
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Sorry, I make mistake on that part.

All LCD was TFT, just S-LCD was an evolution of TN based TFT-LCD.

Sony never mention using which type of TFT-LCD. But from review, it was not really yet comparable with any manufacturer use.

I haven't seen yet XPERIA Z screen, but from current XPERIA V, in normal general look, it never better than current HTC Butterfly which base on S-LCD as well. My eye was popping out when I first seen the Butterfly but not any XPERIA phone in market.

Sony every year did same mistake, the way it announcing it phone base on spec was in wrong timing.

I am pretty sure the wow effect of XPERIA Z will not as stunning sales at it suppose due to it again's wrong timing.


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QUOTE(soitsuagain @ Feb 20 2013, 04:18 PM)
With USB OTG, watching anime, movies is even easier....transferring very large files into a phone still takes a while though. Besides, how many times do we have to watch those that it  deserves a space in our SDcard. A few favorites maybe but not anything more.
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For me it is not really about the space in a SD card. It's the convenience and speed.

I remember my Xperia S always having issues being detected by the computer. I would try restarting the phone, restarting the computer, trying on another computer etc and still not have it appear. Now, add to the fact that your client wants some photos from you on the spot. When I did a quick search for the problem online, I was not the only one. There were many other phones out there using internal memory having issues with MTP. It was a hit or miss really.

I never had any issues, on the other hand, with MSC on the Acro S or Note II. Any computer I plug them into, they just work like a USB drive.

QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Feb 20 2013, 04:21 PM)
Sorry, I make mistake on that part.

All LCD was TFT, just S-LCD was an evolution of TN based TFT-LCD.

Sony never mention using which type of TFT-LCD. But from review, it was not really yet comparable with any manufacturer use.

I haven't seen yet XPERIA Z screen, but from current XPERIA V, in normal general look, it never better than current HTC Butterfly which base on S-LCD as well. My eye was popping out when I first seen the Butterfly but not any XPERIA phone in market.

Sony every year did same mistake, the way it announcing it phone base on spec was in wrong timing.

I am pretty sure the wow effect of XPERIA Z will not as stunning sales at it suppose due to it again's wrong timing.
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No worries. Yeah, it is rather confusing considering the fact that Sony NEVER mentions any details to what they use. Not only their screen technology, but even the glass used. Just mentioned scratch proof.. no official details from them stating Corning's Gorilla or Dragontail etc.

Also, agreed on the screen on Sony's being below the competition, but still better than the AMOLED on the S3 (PenTile.. yuck..) and potentially the S4 is rumored to use PenTile as well..

But what I am glad is finally, a manufacturer that has the brains to place the speakers on the front. I always found it silly to have the speakers on the side or the back when watching videos.

Sony always have been behind on specs, but their screens, while average, always had good resolution (more important for me, clarity > colour to an extend), and personally, I prefer their design as well.

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For me it is not really about the space in a SD card. It's the convenience and speed.

I remember my Xperia S always having issues being detected by the computer. I would try restarting the phone, restarting the computer, trying on another computer etc and still not have it appear. Now, add to the fact that your client wants some photos from you on the spot. When I did a quick search for the problem online, I was not the only one. There were many other phones out there using internal memory having issues with MTP. It was a hit or miss really.

I never had any issues, on the other hand, with MSC on the Acro S or Note II. Any computer I plug them into, they just work like a USB drive.
No worries. Yeah, it is rather confusing considering the fact that Sony NEVER mentions any details to what they use. Not only their screen technology, but even the glass used. Just mentioned scratch proof.. no official details from them stating Corning's Gorilla or Dragontail etc.

Also, agreed on the screen on Sony's being below the competition, but still better than the AMOLED on the S3 (PenTile.. yuck..) and potentially the S4 is rumored to use PenTile as well..

But what I am glad is finally, a manufacturer that has the brains to place the speakers on the front. I always found it silly to have the speakers on the side or the back when watching videos.

Sony always have been behind on specs, but their screens, while average, always had good resolution (more important for me, clarity > colour to an extend), and personally, I prefer their design as well.
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I really hope Samsung don't use AMOLED, especially PenTile. But I am sure it will be. Impossible Samsung pick SLCD3 which from Sharp.

Yalo, speaker shall put at front, not back or side.

I always love SONY design, SONY design the best and most pretty in outer look and even their own customize apps.

Too bad SONY always make me on hold due to it screen and spec. Most important the screen la. It always behind others.

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Feb 20 2013, 04:21 PM)
Sorry, I make mistake on that part.

All LCD was TFT, just S-LCD was an evolution of TN based TFT-LCD.

Sony never mention using which type of TFT-LCD. But from review, it was not really yet comparable with any manufacturer use.

I haven't seen yet XPERIA Z screen, but from current XPERIA V, in normal general look, it never better than current HTC Butterfly which base on S-LCD as well. My eye was popping out when I first seen the Butterfly but not any XPERIA phone in market.

Sony every year did same mistake, the way it announcing it phone base on spec was in wrong timing.

I am pretty sure the wow effect of XPERIA Z will not as stunning sales at it suppose due to it again's wrong timing.
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erm... to compare V to butterfly is abit unfair la bcos V is only 720p while butterfly is 1080p... sure big difference...

but i do agree that SLCD does have better picture quality than the "unknown screen type" on xperia phone
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QUOTE(ckchan @ Feb 20 2013, 04:59 PM)
erm... to compare V to butterfly is abit unfair la bcos V is only 720p while butterfly is 1080p... sure big difference...

but i do agree that SLCD does have better picture quality than the "unknown screen type" on xperia phone
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I mean the color reproduction, angle and etc, not the details.

I find XPERIA V color a bit wash out, it not as solid like S-LCD3 or S-AMOLED +, S-AMOLED + just color too saturate, but general still better than panel use by Sony.

For me, the best panel still IPS, S-LCD3 and S-AMOLED +

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From the eprice HK, and they refer from information provide by sony HK, xperia Z front glass uses Dragontail and back glass uses Gorilla

http://www.eprice.com.hk/mobile/talk/4551/...-z-L36h-review/

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From the eprice HK, and they refer from information provide by sony HK, xperia Z front glass uses Dragontail and back glass uses Gorilla

http://www.eprice.com.hk/mobile/talk/4551/...-z-L36h-review/
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wub.gif the model

http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&i...7=4237&id8=4188

Samsung galaxy S4 also using Qualcomm Snapdragon 600 APQ8064T thumbup.gif
Above for America version, samsung always using their own processor for Asia version

but I like sony design sad.gif

Why Sony always slowpoke yawn.gif

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QUOTE(wkkm007 @ Feb 20 2013, 06:12 PM)
wub.gif the model

http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&i...7=4237&id8=4188

Samsung galaxy S4 also using Qualcomm Snapdragon 600 APQ8064T  thumbup.gif
Above for America version, samsung always using their own processor for Asia version

but I like sony design sad.gif

Why Sony always slowpoke yawn.gif
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For international version they use Exynos.
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http://www.engadget.com/2013/02/20/sony-xperia-z-review/

engadget review of xperia z
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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Feb 20 2013, 03:15 PM)
The S600 performance was one ahead over S4 Pro. It not slightly different.

Sony is TFT LCD & HTC is Super LCD 3 LCD.

TFT & Super LCD 3 is LCD type and Super LCD 3 quality was much much way better than TFT.

Your statement was totally wrong, not HTC and Sony also TFT, is both also LCD but different type.

Above 2 part already completely smoke Xperia Z. Xperia Z still win in having water and dusk proof but both not really important compare to LCD quality and performance.
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I must correct this .
TFT is the way to build the circuit which is a very general term .
SUPER LCD 3 is also TFT LCD . You statement is totally wrong .


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoNQcM8T4c8
From this video , xperia z should be unnamed IPS display . The viewing angle reach 170' .

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I wonder will we be seing a tegra 4 phone at this mwc or not? Seems no company wan to use nvidia chipset.
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They are currently too slow to the market with the Tegra 4. They are also slow to the all-in-one mobile LTE chipset, which could also be the reason why they're slow. Think about it, if you're a phone company, would you take Qualcomm where you only get one chipset that can handle CPU + GPU + LTE, or go with Tegra 3 and have a 2nd chip for LTE?

At least the Tegra 3 was one of the first if not the first quads out there, being announced and released sometime Q4 2011?

Since then, we have had Samsung and Qualcomm with their quads around 1H 2012 and now 1Q 2013 we have Qualcomm with their Snapdragon 600 series and the rumored Samsung "octa-core."

By the way, I put a quote on the "octa-core" because it's not really octa-core. Just like how nVidia advertises their Tegra 3 as a 4+1, Samsung should also advertise theirs as a 4+4, because the extra cores are companion cores, and not designed to run parallel. What does this mean? It means when it comes to multi-core processing, you either use the 4 A15 cores or the 4 A7 cores.

Edit: Typed in wrong year, 1Q 2013, not 2012.. LOL.. sweat.gif

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But for obvious marketing reason, octa is a better name. Same case wher current led tv isnt a led tv at all, only a backlit led lcd tv. But this infos only people like us knows, but for mass market n general people, they only buy anythg without knowing ir care.

Htc one iinm marketed their phone at 4mp, that is a risky move eventho the reality it was a 12-13mp camera. Iinm a 4mpX3
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QUOTE(uzary @ Feb 21 2013, 10:55 AM)
But for obvious marketing reason, octa is a better name. Same case wher current led tv isnt a led tv at all, only a backlit led lcd tv. But this infos only people like us knows, but for mass market n general people, they only buy anythg without knowing ir care.

Htc one iinm marketed their phone at 4mp, that is a risky move eventho the reality it was a 12-13mp camera. Iinm a 4mpX3
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Sadly, yeah.. there should be some regulations out there to control all these marketing names, seriously.

Regarding HTC One, they can't market it as 12-13mp. Even though the technology would have 12 mpix on the sensors (4mp RED, 4mp GREEN, 4mp BLUE) because the final file output is only 4mp after merging the three colours, RGB.
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QUOTE(uzary @ Feb 21 2013, 10:55 AM)
But for obvious marketing reason, octa is a better name. Same case wher current led tv isnt a led tv at all, only a backlit led lcd tv. But this infos only people like us knows, but for mass market n general people, they only buy anythg without knowing ir care.

Htc one iinm marketed their phone at 4mp, that is a risky move eventho the reality it was a 12-13mp camera. Iinm a 4mpX3
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That's why HTC always emphsize on the "ultrapixel" in all their spec and promotion.

and i don't quite understand why u said it is actually 12-13mp? i thought all photos taken with HTC One is of 4mp photo size (2464x1632) ? Can HTC One take a photo with the 12mp (4290x2800 )?
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QUOTE(Areas Elysian @ Feb 21 2013, 11:06 AM)
Sadly, yeah.. there should be some regulations out there to control all these marketing names, seriously.

Regarding HTC One, they can't market it as 12-13mp. Even though the technology would have 12 mpix on the sensors (4mp RED, 4mp GREEN, 4mp BLUE) because the final file output is only 4mp after merging the three colours, RGB.
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Oic, no wonder htc made uo the name ultrapixel so dat consumer wont be swayed away by the 4mp, imo the camera quality is quite good however as i mentioned earlier, general consumer will only c a bigger number isbetter such octa 8 cores, or 13mp camera. Htc playing a dangerous game here.
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That's why HTC always emphsize on the "ultrapixel" in all their spec and promotion.

and i don't quite understand why u said it is actually 12-13mp? i thought all photos taken with HTC One is of 4mp photo size (2464x1632) ? Can HTC One take a photo with the 12mp (4290x2800 )?
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I guess im wrong tongue.gif . I read elsewhere saying it was 4mp x 3 but then elysian explain it was actually 4 red 4 blue n 4 green
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I must correct this .
TFT is the way to build the circuit which is a very general term .
SUPER LCD 3 is also TFT LCD . You statement is totally wrong .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoNQcM8T4c8
From this video , xperia z should be unnamed IPS display . The viewing angle reach 170' .
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I wonder will we be seing a tegra 4 phone at this mwc or not? Seems no company wan to use nvidia chipset.
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QUOTE(djlah @ Feb 21 2013, 11:39 AM)
yes, ZTE will be first brand using tegra 4. seems like nvidia not getting very good order from phone vendor. snapdragon strategic looks good and better, 600, 800. and now 400 and 200 for low entry phone.
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i think serve them right. i used to be nvidia fan with pc graphic card, but im really devastated with their tegra 2. i hv it on my sony tablet s, it performance is totally sux. it cant even play a 720p rip properly. i knew their tegra 3 performed muc better, however it was also iinm ranked last in last year quad core battle.
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my last nvidia pc graphic card is 8600GT, no more support after that, feel that nvidia rebrand too much for mid-range to low end cards, compare amd radeaon although amd did as well but mostly on OEM only or few low end cards. Second, notebook graphics sux to max during 8300M era, denied quality issue n no recall. when they come to mobile smartphone business, tegra 2 also give me bad experience on flashing, nvflash command cannot enter sequentially in short n will get device not detect or ready after 1 command sent, have to enter 1 command n wait 2/3seconds before continue again. nvidia CEO also pondan, tegra 2 sales not doing good or met his forecast/goal, he blame Android eco-system weak/bad doh.gif

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Nvidia Tegra - never interesting on it. Seems most manufacturer also.
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http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/02/20/xperi...-week-in-japan/

Docomo Xperia Z sells 140k units in first week in Japan.
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QUOTE(Areas Elysian @ Feb 21 2013, 11:06 AM)
Sadly, yeah.. there should be some regulations out there to control all these marketing names, seriously.

Regarding HTC One, they can't market it as 12-13mp. Even though the technology would have 12 mpix on the sensors (4mp RED, 4mp GREEN, 4mp BLUE) because the final file output is only 4mp after merging the three colours, RGB.
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sensor typesony exmor rsony exmor rsHTC foveon sensor nokia 808lumia 920
size[diagonal]1/3.2" [0.31"]1/3 [0.33"]1/3 [0.33"]1/1.2" [0.83"]1/3 [0.33"]
pixel unit size1.751.1221.41.4
total magapixel8134418
lens aperture2.42.42.02.42.0

actually it is, 4MP (1.33MP red + 1.33MP green + 1.33 MP blue) bcauz a photo is combination of RGB
same as Sigma SD14, the 14 MP (4.7 MP red + 4.7 MP green + 4.7 MP blue) tat use foveon sensor
if it is 4MP * rgb thn HTC will advertise it as 12MP + camera ady & it will create 12 MP + sample RGB photos

HTC say to Engadget ["We'll take four million 2µm pixels over eight million 1.1µm pixels any day, but we think it's going be an uphill battle for HTC to educate the average consumer"] in here & their youtube
they mean their camera take 4mp of 2 microns vs 8mp of 1.13 microns thus able to capture more light
their photo details, clear, sharpness will be better as 8mp, which is not true

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i wonder when sony mobile malaysia will actually at least announced the price of xperia z? even the latest htx one has announced the price albeit only be selling by the end of april. bb z10 price also has been announced. seriously sony mobile my is doh.gif doh.gif

p/s i heard/read somewhere the reason why the price isnt announced yet is because sony malaysia still in a discussion about the final price. i hope it is price below htc one tho.
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i wonder when sony mobile malaysia will actually at least announced the price of xperia z? even the latest htx one has announced the price albeit only be selling by the end of april. bb z10 price also has been announced. seriously sony mobile my is doh.gif  doh.gif

p/s i heard/read somewhere the reason why the price isnt announced yet is because sony malaysia still in a discussion about the final price. i hope it is price below htc one tho.
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How much is the HTC One going for?

Also, regarding the pixel, I am just assuming from what the other poster mentioned that's all. I remember reading that there are a few method of camera imaging sensor technologies and what not, and I was assuming that's all. Thanks for the correction.
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I think the price would be around RM2200 to RM2400, stock might only available on 3rd week of MARCH.
the March 6th event might be only announcement when available and how much is the price for XPERIA Z only.
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Cortex-A15 & ARMv7-A compatible(custom);
Swift,Krait,Tegra4,Exynos5,A9600,OMAP5

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Smartphone/Tablet processor Teread;War begain;, Swift,Krait,Tegra4,Exynos5,A9600,OMAP5
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QUOTE(James831 @ Feb 21 2013, 06:51 PM)
I think the price would be around RM2200 to RM2400, stock might only available on 3rd week of MARCH.
the March 6th event might be only announcement when available and how much is the price for XPERIA Z only.
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This thread slowing down due to HTC One announcement cool2.gif
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Guys, saw this at sony center jb bukit indah. Too bad i in a hurry, nv speak too the sales person for more details.
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Same price as HTC One.
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more then 2k..but what package will have?
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Guys, saw this at sony center jb bukit indah. Too bad i in a hurry, nv speak too the sales person for more  details.
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wow expensive... I think gonna wait few months for the price to drop b4 buy
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Dragontrail glass in front and Gorilla glass at the back.
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QUOTE(WintersuN @ Feb 21 2013, 08:16 PM)
wow expensive... I think gonna wait few months for the price to drop b4 buy
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The actual price shud be more or less like RM2299...

It cant be too pricey else nobody want to buy
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QUOTE(chkhoo76 @ Feb 21 2013, 09:22 PM)
The actual price shud be more or less like RM2299...

It cant be too pricey else nobody want to buy
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Agree, i think the price is relevant. It was the same price as htc one n htc butterfly. Altho htc one feature a newer proc, but it is only 4.7". Xz got 5" and also water n dust proof. So the price imo is fair. Hope they will throw some good stuff wit it, still hope got dock, also if possible a wireless speaker or headset. With pakej belia, the phone is only 2099. I think myb the phone was supposed to be price at 2099 but since najib gave that 200 rebate, the price went up. Blaimed najib for that tongue.gif

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QUOTE(uzary @ Feb 21 2013, 09:44 PM)
Agree, i think the price is relevant. It was the same price as htc one n htc butterfly. Altho htc one feature a newer proc, but it is only 4.7". Xz got 5" and also water n dust proof. So the price imo is fair. Hope they will throw some good stuff wit it, still hope got dock, also if possible a wireless speaker or headset. With pakej belia, the phone is only 2099. I think myb the phone was supposed to be price at 2099 but since najib gave that 200 rebate, the price went up. Blaimed najib for that tongue.gif
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Yep, wondering what's going to be shipped in the box. I'm hoping the dock, battery life isn't going to be great so I'll probably need a dock both at work and at home. If there's a dock in the box, then I'm a happy man. No issues getting an additional one. I just hope I can get the purple version locally.

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QUOTE(WintersuN @ Feb 21 2013, 08:16 PM)
wow expensive... I think gonna wait few months for the price to drop b4 buy
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U hv to anticipate the price will be more or less at this price tag. Do u seriously think this phone will be less than 2k?

No offense, i'll speak in general, sometime i hate people whining about the phone is late into the market, then once the phone hit the market, those who were whining still dun buy the phone, gave various of reasons like the phone is too expensive, or a newer phone with better spec will come up, or gona to wait for "insert brand" phone to released an so on.

My point is, if u decide to buy watever phone u want, be prepared, save money n but as soon as u able to afford it. Dun play the waiting game. It will be never ending wait. Technology always move very fast.
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QUOTE(uzary @ Feb 21 2013, 09:54 PM)
U hv to anticipate the price will be more or less at this price tag. Do u seriously think this phone will be less than 2k?

No offense, i'll speak in general, sometime i hate people whining about the phone is late into the market, then once the phone hit the market, those who were whining still dun buy the phone, gave various of reasons like the phone is too expensive, or a newer phone with better spec will come up, or gona to wait for "insert brand" phone to released an so on.

My point is, if u decide to buy watever phone u want, be prepared, save money n but as soon as u able to afford it. Dun play the waiting game. It will be never ending wait. Technology always move very fast.
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U r right!! But initially i already plan get ZL see how much they price
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Dang, I like the Z, but I also like the ZL. Hard to choose.
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Z rm2299? wow...i guess ZL would be rm1999? tongue.gif

rm2299 then i would consider htc one biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(WintersuN @ Feb 21 2013, 09:59 PM)
U r right!! But initially i already plan get ZL see how much they price
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Zl shud be cheaper i guess. Shud be at least 200-300 different. Altho i wont be suprise if sony price it at only 100 less. After all zl carried the same spec as Z absent the water n dust proof feat n few others.


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the price same as i buy my current sony phone -XPERIA ARC 2 years ago.
still acceptable price for me.
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QUOTE(uzary @ Feb 21 2013, 09:54 PM)
U hv to anticipate the price will be more or less at this price tag. Do u seriously think this phone will be less than 2k?

No offense, i'll speak in general, sometime i hate people whining about the phone is late into the market, then once the phone hit the market, those who were whining still dun buy the phone, gave various of reasons like the phone is too expensive, or a newer phone with better spec will come up, or gona to wait for "insert brand" phone to released an so on.

My point is, if u decide to buy watever phone u want, be prepared, save money n but as soon as u able to afford it. Dun play the waiting game. It will be never ending wait. Technology always move very fast.
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well said!

but i am more interested in zl, still no news about it and wonder how much it'll be
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Z rm2299? wow...i guess ZL would be rm1999? tongue.gif

rm2299 then i would consider htc one biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(refnulf @ Feb 21 2013, 10:00 PM)
Dang, I like the Z, but I also like the ZL. Hard to choose.
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my friend just sent me this !

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QUOTE(WintersuN @ Feb 21 2013, 10:09 PM)
dun really like HTC One design.. maybe i see S4 design how first.. SO far SOny design is nice to me
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For me htc one design isnt bad at all. I kinda like it as it looks so muc like bb z10 design which i kinda impress wit the design. However for me XZ way more sexier n elegant. This is glass vs aluminum, both premium material but both got cons. Glass no matter how hard it is, its nature is it will break/crack on hard impact. Aluminum, scratch easily.

Regarding samsung or to b precise their incoming flagship, the S4, most anti samsung/ hater including me always mock their material that is plastic or cheap plastic tongue.gif, but i kinda hav the feeling samsung might surprises all of us wit it state of the art design n also premium material. But i hope not hehehe.

Wateva it is XZ is my true love of 2013, just hope it wont hav any issue or problem like sod on XV or the yellow tinted screen on XS. I never be an early adopter b4 this, gues i need some advice wether is it fine to buy the first batch or better wait for a second batch?
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QUOTE(theWeird_Weird @ Feb 21 2013, 10:18 PM)
my friend just sent me this !

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Omg omg.. Demm la, here in terengganu no sony centre anywhere. Need more info regarding pre order tho, like what goodies or freebies come wit it.
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Omg omg.. Demm la, here in terengganu no sony centre anywhere. Need more info regarding pre order tho, like what goodies or freebies come wit it.
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my friend say first 1000 customer might be can get the earphone worth rrp 1199 wor.
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my friend say first 1000 customer might be can get the earphone worth rrp 1199 wor.
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I really hope Samsung don't use AMOLED, especially PenTile. But I am sure it will be. Impossible Samsung pick SLCD3 which from Sharp.

Yalo, speaker shall put at front, not back or side.

I always love SONY design, SONY design the best and most pretty in outer look and even their own customize apps.

Too bad SONY always make me on hold due to it screen and spec. Most important the screen la. It always behind others.
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QUOTE(theWeird_Weird @ Feb 21 2013, 10:18 PM)
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Ahh, won't our low yat dealers also have stock when it arrives on our shores?

Call the sony centre tomorrow to confim this!


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QUOTE(refnulf @ Feb 21 2013, 11:17 PM)
Ahh, won't our low yat dealers also have stock when it arrives on our shores?

Call the sony centre tomorrow to confim this!
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No sony centre in terengganu sad.gif tomorrow going to sony centre in kuantan to check.
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my friend say first 1000 customer might be can get the earphone worth rrp 1199 wor.
tapi not so sure yet. need confirm with her first  tongue.gif
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r u sure 1199? or 199?
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r u sure 1199? or 199?
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QUOTE(waveweaver @ Feb 22 2013, 01:04 AM)
Earset or headphone..cost till RM1199..lolz
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but kind doubtful they will give it 4 free laugh.gif
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Guys, saw this at sony center jb bukit indah. Too bad i in a hurry, nv speak too the sales person for more  details.
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the newer htc one is 2299, not so competitive if xpz is 2299

2099-2199 will be the sweet spot biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(nasiayam @ Feb 22 2013, 02:32 AM)
the newer htc one is 2299, not so competitive if xpz is 2299

2099-2199 will be the sweet spot  biggrin.gif
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Yeah.. because both the XPERIA Z and HTC One will be launching and on sale at the exact same time right?

The price of the XPERIA Z is not going to be lower once the HTC starts selling ya?

The XPERIA Z has at least 1-2 months lead advantage. In two weeks time, you get to buy the XPERIA Z for RM 2,299.. however, if you want the HTC One, even at RM 10,000 you won't be able to get one.
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QUOTE(uzary @ Feb 21 2013, 10:28 PM)
Omg omg.. Demm la, here in terengganu no sony centre anywhere. Need more info regarding pre order tho, like what goodies or freebies come wit it.
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tipula.. where can get freebie that is 50% of the phone price doh.gif
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Check out the pre-order bonus bundle that's going on in UK. They are giving out free high end headphones worth £299 for their first 1000 customers.

http://www.uswitch.com/mobiles/news/2013/0...ree_headphones/
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Check out the pre-order bonus bundle that's going on in UK. They are giving out free high end headphones worth £299 for their first 1000 customers.

http://www.uswitch.com/mobiles/news/2013/0...ree_headphones/
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I was hoping it would have been the wireless one.

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I was hoping it would have been the wireless one.
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AFAIK only Sony UK is having this offer. France it's free NFC wireless speakers. I don't recall if other countries/areas have any freebies.

Just to set the record straight, I was just letting WintersuN know that it is possible to have freebies at 50% or near 50% value of the phone. I was and am not saying that we will be getting any freebies in Malaysia.
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QUOTE(Areas Elysian @ Feb 22 2013, 12:05 PM)
AFAIK only Sony UK is having this offer. France it's free NFC wireless speakers. I don't recall if other countries/areas have any freebies.

Just to set the record straight, I was just letting WintersuN know that it is possible to have freebies at 50% or near 50% value of the phone. I was and am not saying that we will be getting any freebies in Malaysia.
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I will b happy enough if sony malaysia bundle the dock together wit it. A free wireless speaker will b a bonus.
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QUOTE(Areas Elysian @ Feb 22 2013, 08:54 AM)
Check out the pre-order bonus bundle that's going on in UK. They are giving out free high end headphones worth £299 for their first 1000 customers.

http://www.uswitch.com/mobiles/news/2013/0...ree_headphones/
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Woo..so it's headphone NOT earset that comes free with the package biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Areas Elysian @ Feb 22 2013, 12:05 PM)
AFAIK only Sony UK is having this offer. France it's free NFC wireless speakers. I don't recall if other countries/areas have any freebies.

Just to set the record straight, I was just letting WintersuN know that it is possible to have freebies at 50% or near 50% value of the phone. I was and am not saying that we will be getting any freebies in Malaysia.
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starhub, M1 -->Free Wireless Headset BTN200M
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QUOTE(waveweaver @ Feb 22 2013, 12:12 PM)
Woo..so it's headphone NOT earset that comes free with the package biggrin.gif
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I think the in box earphone still bundle together. The headphone is a gift. Btw the earphone is quite good i believe.
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I think the in box earphone still bundle together. The headphone is a gift. Btw the earphone is quite good i believe.
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Correct.

Sony MH-EX300AP is the bundled earphone, which is still a pretty good. That one is confirmed to come with all XPERIA Z world wide.

Headphone is just a one time special offer in UK>

I would prefer to have a dock bundled though. I have my own AKG portable noise canceling headphones. If I want quality I have my Denons.
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I went to the Sony Center at The Gardens. They know nothing when I ask them whether the dock will be included and etc.

According to them, no news on freebies that comes with pre order. Sound like me it's a simple and plain pre order that guarantee the availability when it arrives.

Doesn't sound like a sincere marketing move from Sony
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RIP sony.
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htc one come to papa;D
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Btw u shud hang out here --------> http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2708421/+400

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then go to one thread

and here ppl say sony guys is the antagonizer
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Contacted Ikano Sony Centre and they said that they're accepting pre-orders since yesterday. Package they're not 100% confirmed but the docking is definitely included.

Not sure if there will be any freebies and they will charge 40% first since they don't have a final price yet.
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QUOTE(refnulf @ Feb 22 2013, 01:28 PM)
Contacted Ikano Sony Centre and they said that they're accepting pre-orders since yesterday. Package they're not 100% confirmed but the docking is definitely included.

Not sure if there will be any freebies and they will charge 40% first since they don't have a final price yet.
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QUOTE(refnulf @ Feb 22 2013, 01:28 PM)
Contacted Ikano Sony Centre and they said that they're accepting pre-orders since yesterday. Package they're not 100% confirmed but the docking is definitely included.

Not sure if there will be any freebies and they will charge 40% first since they don't have a final price yet.
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i choose to believe you! biggrin.gif

charge 40% first? what does that mean?
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They giving the docking, thats great news.
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QUOTE(nasiayam @ Feb 22 2013, 02:00 PM)
i choose to believe you! biggrin.gif

charge 40% first? what does that mean?
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That's what the guy told me, I hope it's true of course. I wouldn't mind skipping on a freebie for pre-order if the dock comes standard in the package.

Now not too sure if I should pre-order or just wait first. 40% means they're going to estimate it's costing 2200 or whatever, then just charge 40% of that amount. Then once the final price is released, they'll charge the rest once you come to collect the phone.

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QUOTE(refnulf @ Feb 22 2013, 02:06 PM)
That's what the guy told me, I hope it's true of course. I wouldn't mind skipping on a freebie for pre-order if the dock comes standard in the package.

Now not too sure if I should pre-order or just wait first. 40% means they're going to estimate it's costing 2200 or whatever, then just charge 40% of that amount. Then once the final price is released, they'll charge the rest once you come to collect the phone.
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i see, even if we assume if will cost 2k only, that amounts to 800 shocking.gif

as much as i love to get the phone, i'll wait for at least the price/package is confirmed before jumping into it

i believe we'll get more info from sony as we get closer to 6th of march smile.gif
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QUOTE(refnulf @ Feb 22 2013, 01:28 PM)
Contacted Ikano Sony Centre and they said that they're accepting pre-orders since yesterday. Package they're not 100% confirmed but the docking is definitely included.

Not sure if there will be any freebies and they will charge 40% first since they don't have a final price yet.
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For Penang, I tried contacting all Sony Center. Queensbay Mall and Gurney Plaza both have no definitive info regarding pricing and in box item, even no preorder yet. However upon contacting the branch in Jalan Perak and she confidently say that the price will be RM1999. Do note that I double confirm with her and she is confident that the price is that. I ask regarding in box and preorder, she don't have the answer. Regarding the preorder, she took my contact number and say if there is any preorder, she will get in touch with me.

hmm.gif so many pricing, one at 2299(previous post), one untrusted-but-i-want-to-share is RM2599 and Jalan Perak branch is Rm1999..

I think in the end, there is actually no official pricing yet..
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Funny that every Sony Center gives different answer.

I just went to the one in KLCC, there is no definite pricing or the package that comes along. I only left my contact there for them to contact me when Xperia Z hits Malaysia.

On the list I already can see a few person interested to get it.

As for myself, I would want to get from Telco (Maxis) if possible or my friend who works in Sony IT Team (Potential Staff Discount)

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sad...
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QUOTE(jeff10012003 @ Feb 22 2013, 02:35 PM)
For Penang, I tried contacting all Sony Center. Queensbay Mall and Gurney Plaza both have no definitive info regarding pricing and in box item, even no preorder yet. However upon contacting the branch in Jalan Perak and she confidently say that the price will be RM1999.  Do note that I double confirm with her and she is confident that the price is that. I ask regarding in box and preorder, she don't have the answer. Regarding the preorder, she took my contact number and say if there is any preorder, she will get in touch with me.

hmm.gif  so many pricing, one at 2299(previous post), one untrusted-but-i-want-to-share is RM2599 and Jalan Perak branch is Rm1999..

I think in the end, there is actually no official pricing yet..
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if its 1999, its a good deal even without the docking

that website selling htc butterfly for 2700, so i think their price don't really reflect the malaysia retail price
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QUOTE(Blast_Cyrus @ Feb 22 2013, 02:39 PM)
Funny that every Sony Center gives different answer.

I just went to the one in KLCC, there is no definite pricing or the package that comes along. I only left my contact there for them to contact me when Xperia Z hits Malaysia.

On the list I already can see a few person interested to get it.

As for myself, I would want to get from Telco (Maxis) if possible or my friend who works in Sony IT Team (Potential Staff Discount)
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Best la...staff discount... cry.gif

QUOTE(GP mad man @ Feb 22 2013, 02:39 PM)
sad...
can see SG telco start showing XZ in their website while MY here see nothing sad.gif
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QUOTE(nasiayam @ Feb 22 2013, 02:43 PM)
if its 1999, its a good deal even without the docking

that website selling htc butterfly for 2700, so i think their price don't really reflect the malaysia retail price
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You saw my reply at Sony Mobile MY is it.. tongue.gif somebody posted this price earlier, so I bash back saying before posting that false price, check other prices first and compare with malaysia price before posting.. now everyone start to spread that false price around..haih..
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someone in forum doing pre-order for xperia Z. Contacted the seller yesterday. His price is RM 2,299
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QUOTE(LazyKurosaki @ Feb 22 2013, 02:47 PM)
someone in forum doing pre-order for xperia Z. Contacted the seller yesterday. His price is RM 2,299
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link please?
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QUOTE(LazyKurosaki @ Feb 22 2013, 02:48 PM)
Sony Center JB? aren't they the one mentioned in previous post?
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Sony Center JB? aren't they the one mentioned in previous post?
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no official pricing, no point to talk much...
according to GSMarena, japan alone sold 140,000 unit while France sold out on the 1st batch.
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want to ask, what is the common inner problem sony phones have usually? hmm?

like samsung S3, note 2 is the SD card destroyer. lulz

like HTC wise is battery always not enough, and One X is many problem in first batch?

then sony got what lulz? software side? they last time announce open source for sony phone right? but that one is ICS right?
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QUOTE(jeff10012003 @ Feb 22 2013, 02:51 PM)
Sony Center JB? aren't they the one mentioned in previous post?
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Nope, i saw in Bukit indah sony, while the seller is from sony center century garden.
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Sony taiwan pre order with price TWD 21,900 in RM is 2290, when pre order only free earphone carrying case and 5000mah mobile battery pack only

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QUOTE(jeff10012003 @ Feb 22 2013, 02:46 PM)
Best la...staff discount...  cry.gif
ya..still with E dual.. Malaysia have poor updates..
You saw my reply at Sony Mobile MY is it.. tongue.gif somebody posted this price earlier, so I bash back saying before posting that false price, check other prices first and compare with malaysia price before posting.. now everyone start to spread that false price around..haih..
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hehe, yup saw some1 posted that 2599 website price in the sony mobile fb, as long as sony haven't confirm, i will take it with a pinch of salt, especially devices within the same range cost 2299

yesterday i termasuk the epal store tongue.gif 16gb aipong5 no contract cost 2199 only, i molest it kau kau brows.gif was really surprised it to be so thin at 7.6mm, but xperia z is 7.9mm, so 0.3mm don't make a difference, so looking forward to holding xperia z on my hand wub.gif

but all these 2299 pre order, i assume they expect it to go head-to-head with htc one price which is 2299 as well



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The ringing tone is something to consider. Not much of a problem for the voice and music as it is only an 8dB drop and it is loud enough as it is even if I lowered sown the volume to 75%. But the ringing tone is a whopping 16.4 dB drop from my Arc. I got this score from GSMarena. This might cause a lot of miss call if I am not in the same room with my phone.

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QUOTE(nasiayam @ Feb 22 2013, 03:26 PM)
hehe, yup saw some1 posted that 2599 website price in the sony mobile fb, as long as sony haven't confirm, i will take it with a pinch of salt, especially devices within the same range cost 2299

yesterday i termasuk the epal store tongue.gif 16gb aipong5 no contract cost 2199 only, i molest it kau kau  brows.gif  was really surprised it to be so thin at 7.6mm, but xperia z is 7.9mm, so 0.3mm don't make a difference, so looking forward to holding xperia z on my hand  wub.gif

but all these 2299 pre order, i assume they expect it to go head-to-head with htc one price which is 2299 as well
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Feb 22 2013, 02:58 PM)
want to ask, what is the common inner problem sony phones have usually? hmm?

like samsung S3, note 2 is the SD card destroyer. lulz

like HTC wise is battery always not enough, and One X is many problem in first batch?

then sony got what lulz? software side? they last time announce open source for sony phone right? but that one is ICS right?
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Sony did some problems of its own like xperia v infamous SOD, sleep of death where the phone non responding after it sleep. N first batch xperia s got that yellow tint appearing on screen when the temperature is high.
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QUOTE(choonwai11 @ Feb 22 2013, 02:59 PM)
Nope, i saw in Bukit indah sony, while the seller is from sony center century garden.
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i see.. my mistake then.. smile.gif

QUOTE(nasiayam @ Feb 22 2013, 03:26 PM)
hehe, yup saw some1 posted that 2599 website price in the sony mobile fb, as long as sony haven't confirm, i will take it with a pinch of salt, especially devices within the same range cost 2299

yesterday i termasuk the epal store tongue.gif 16gb aipong5 no contract cost 2199 only, i molest it kau kau  brows.gif  was really surprised it to be so thin at 7.6mm, but xperia z is 7.9mm, so 0.3mm don't make a difference, so looking forward to holding xperia z on my hand  wub.gif

but all these 2299 pre order, i assume they expect it to go head-to-head with htc one price which is 2299 as well
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yes..that was what i heard before..
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tis 1 just released in US only wor, so fast sell in malaysia laugh.gif
if they gip free, thn i will buy it lor

the spec is really good

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but 24 Ω only, will be a bit too loud if use with amp laugh.gif
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QUOTE(soitsuagain @ Feb 22 2013, 03:38 PM)
The ringing tone is something to consider. Not much of a problem for the voice and music as it is only an 8dB drop and it is loud enough as it is even if I lowered sown the volume to 75%. But the ringing tone is a whopping 16.4 dB drop from my Arc. I got this score from GSMarena. This might cause a lot of miss call if I am not in the same room with my phone.
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i read somewhere that the lower volume maybe due to the feature of the waterproofing of the phone, need to cover the speaker so water doesn't go in

same as the lack of camera button so water doesn't go in from the space around the button

so far the few concern about the phone is the viewing angle, screen quality, speaker loudness, battery... from the xda dev forum, the feedback from those who have just bought the phone is quite good, i guess in the end its up to each individual whether the device is good enough for them

personally, xperia z strikes the balance between the criteria i look for in a smartphone: specs, camera, design and dev community(sony has been quite helpful in the dev community and voted oem of 2012 by xda dev! rclxms.gif )

just my dua kupang smile.gif

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want to ask, what is the common inner problem sony phones have usually? hmm?

like samsung S3, note 2 is the SD card destroyer. lulz

like HTC wise is battery always not enough, and One X is many problem in first batch?

then sony got what lulz? software side? they last time announce open source for sony phone right? but that one is ICS right?
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SD problem is actually not samsung s3 or note 2 problem,
bcauz android is not designed to support hot-swappable SD card,
especially whn u r using ntfs/fat32/exfat file system,
use ext4 file system with fsync on lar 2 be safe, but have to install ext4 driver,
i think samsung remove tat from the original android

sony is unable to detect home wifi, especially those unifi's wifi modem
bcauz some of the new modem tat custom firmware by TM does no follow malaysia SKMM wifi rules
so u will need to set wifi bandwidth to 20 mhz, set wifi channel from 1-11 not more thn tat laugh.gif

open source 4 driver, driver 4 building custom android OS lor, like camera driver or wifi driver etc

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If Xperia Z and HTC one comes at the same price of 2299,then Xperia Z have another thing to lose out.. sad.gif
The internal memory of 16gb vs 32 gb...

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Sony did some problems of its own like xperia v infamous SOD, sleep of death where the phone non responding after it sleep. N first batch xperia s got that yellow tint appearing on screen when the temperature is high.
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oh, yellow tint from iphone 4 last time i hear is due to the screen glue is not enough dry and they urge to release to market fast fast and then when you turn on the screen and kena the burn mark so you will have a yellow tint...that is what i hear from iphone last time. not sure relate or not.

QUOTE(junsheng @ Feb 22 2013, 04:02 PM)
SD problem is actually not samsung s3 or note 2 problem,
bcauz android is not designed to support hot-swappable SD card,
especially whn u r using ntfs/fat32/exfat file system,
use ext4 file system with fsync on lar 2 be safe, but have to install ext4 driver,
i think samsung remove tat from the original android

sony is unable to detect home wifi, especially those unifi's wifi modem
bcauz some of the new modem tat custom firmware by TM does no follow malaysia SKMM wifi rules
so u will need to set wifi bandwidth to 20 mhz, set wifi channel from 1-11 not more thn tat  laugh.gif

open source 4 driver, driver 4 building custom android OS lor, like camera driver or wifi driver etc
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owh talk about that this reminds me my office laptop cant connect my home wifi line either. it can detect but when connect for first time it will ask for WEP password but weird it straight show cant connect and it never ask me wifi password first rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(soitsuagain @ Feb 22 2013, 04:05 PM)
I think is loud enough here. Just the ringing tone.


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nothing to compare, so can't really judge it hmm.gif

the video below is a comparison with s3, not as loud as s3, but the user reported improvement after reboot


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I was totally sold for this phone, until I have two friends using Sony phone kept telling me not too or wait for a while first.

Both of them claim the built quality is not good enough, and the HTC One is sexy too XD

I'm more keen to Xperia Z though, want to lay my hands on it!
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QUOTE(Blast_Cyrus @ Feb 22 2013, 04:27 PM)
I was totally sold for this phone, until I have two friends using Sony phone kept telling me not too or wait for a while first.

Both of them claim the built quality is not good enough, and the HTC One is sexy too XD

I'm more keen to Xperia Z though, want to lay my hands on it!
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coming from a xperia arc,I love sony's phone..Eventhough i like HTC one but i dont really like its ui..not to mention im not so familiar with htc's custom development..
While on the other hand im sure sony will have custom development and roms for sure..

And i would definitely not getting it first batch(learnt from my lesson for getting xperia arc first batch).
I will wait for a while before deciding to get the xperia z and at the mean time i could wait for a price drop.. biggrin.gif
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Sony Centre Century Garden guy said no dock in the package!
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QUOTE(refnulf @ Feb 22 2013, 04:48 PM)
Sony Centre Century Garden guy said no dock in the package!
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Xperia Z will be available in here by March right?
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Just came back from sony centre at east coast mall kuantan. I asked them regarding the xperia z and they told me it will only arrived in june. I was like wtf, n then i asked them who told them that n they said sony themselve. I was really shocking.gif and facepalm.
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If Xperia Z and HTC one comes at the same price of 2299,then Xperia Z have another thing to lose out.. sad.gif
The internal memory of 16gb vs 32 gb...
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but Z gain back a huge advantage by having microSD card
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QUOTE(nasiayam @ Feb 22 2013, 05:26 PM)
nothing to compare, so can't really judge it  hmm.gif

the video below is a comparison with s3, not as loud as s3, but the user reported improvement after reboot


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Read the comment of the video, there was an explanation given later.

The Xperia Z had undergo a water resistance test before the speaker, which result in the speaker performance temporary not so loud. Plus, someone pointed out the xloud function had been turned off
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After so many different reviews..
I've decided to not look at any reviews anymore and will just wait for the real thing to come out and judge for myself.. tongue.gif
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Okay here's the better one , the previous one the uploader did state that the XZ just took a bath that's why it was so soft.



Also , the 2nd angry birds test wasn't legit , the speaker was just beside the gs3 , causing the sound to be "muffled"
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QUOTE(ck.chunkeat @ Feb 22 2013, 04:30 PM)
coming from a xperia arc,I love sony's phone..Eventhough i like HTC one but i dont really like its ui..not to mention im not so familiar with htc's custom development..
While on the other hand im sure sony will have custom development and roms for sure..

And i would definitely not getting it first batch(learnt from my lesson for getting xperia arc first batch).
I will wait for a while before deciding to get the xperia z and at the mean time i could wait for a price drop.. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(uzary @ Feb 22 2013, 05:30 PM)
Just came back from sony centre at east coast mall kuantan. I asked them regarding the xperia z and they told me it will only arrived in june. I was like wtf, n then i asked them who told them that n they said sony themselve. I was really shocking.gif and facepalm.
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QUOTE(teckyang97 @ Feb 22 2013, 06:18 PM)
This is android,don't like the ui?change how you like,this is not iPhone you know
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QUOTE(soonlee33 @ Feb 22 2013, 06:32 PM)
what do u expect bro kuantan ma  smile.gif
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Yup, when i asked another promoter, he told me it will arrived in May. I was like another facepalm. One said in june n another said in may. I guess these promoters really dont know anything.

Anyway, i saw a xperia mobile store just opposite the sony centre, i dropped by n asked the salesman bout xperia z, he said can pre order with him with rm200 deposit. He said the phone will arrived end of this month, he will hold bout 40-50 units in stock. He also said no dock included. Didnt place any order tho due to his arrogant attitude n kinda very selfish too. I also forgot to ask how much is the price of the phone. tongue.gif
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i know,but at the same price,htc one get 16gb of space extra. tongue.gif
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and best of all can swap the memory cards when it run out of space brows.gif


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QUOTE(ck.chunkeat @ Feb 22 2013, 05:52 PM)
i know,but at the same price,htc one get 16gb of space extra. tongue.gif
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But htc one is only 4.7" screen tho it wont differ much from xz 5" due to the on screen button. But dont forget xz is waterproof.
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QUOTE(ck.chunkeat @ Feb 22 2013, 04:30 PM)
coming from a xperia arc,I love sony's phone..Eventhough i like HTC one but i dont really like its ui..not to mention im not so familiar with htc's custom development..
While on the other hand im sure sony will have custom development and roms for sure..

And i would definitely not getting it first batch(learnt from my lesson for getting xperia arc first batch).
I will wait for a while before deciding to get the xperia z and at the mean time i could wait for a price drop.. biggrin.gif
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Me too coming from arc. Xperia Z will be my first Sony (no ericsson) phone.btw im just wondering what is the issue with arc first batch? My arc dont sure which batch but for sure not the first batch as i bought it on august 2011, ap set.

Btw just to share a bit, just when i went to sony centre, i looked a xperia v display, the screen is quite stunning already. Im sure xperia z will be much more stunning. Oo really cant wait.
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QUOTE(uzary @ Feb 22 2013, 07:21 PM)
But htc one is only 4.7" screen tho it wont differ much from xz 5" due to the on screen button. But dont forget xz is waterproof.
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yesterday i tengah makan with friends when the one of our drinks tertumpah on the table, suddenly everyone go to save their phone on the table phone from drowning tongue.gif if xperia z let it swim only rclxms.gif

looking forward to troll my friends with a waterproof phone biggrin.gif

QUOTE(uzary @ Feb 22 2013, 07:29 PM)
Me too coming from arc. Xperia Z will be my first Sony (no ericsson) phone.btw im just wondering what is the issue with arc first batch? My arc dont sure which batch but for sure not the first batch as i bought it on august 2011, ap set.

Btw just to share a bit, just when i went to sony centre, i looked a xperia v display, the screen is quite stunning already. Im sure xperia z will be much more stunning. Oo really cant wait.
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yesterday i went to the sony store as well, i think the xperia series quality build is really good and elegant, didn't really catch my eyes last time due to so-so specs only

i checked out note 2 nearby as well, too plasticky for me tongue.gif

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QUOTE(uzary @ Feb 22 2013, 07:29 PM)
Me too coming from arc. Xperia Z will be my first Sony (no ericsson) phone.btw im just wondering what is the issue with arc first batch? My arc dont sure which batch but for sure not the first batch as i bought it on august 2011, ap set.

Btw just to share a bit, just when i went to sony centre, i looked a xperia v display, the screen is quite stunning already. Im sure xperia z will be much more stunning. Oo really cant wait.
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Hmm,so far the only thing i can remember is the arc will turn off by itself when its in my pocket...After awhile it's fixed by its own,maybe fixed by software update,not sure.. tongue.gif

Also,the video recording is a little bad as the audio and video is not in sync..

Not to mention theres the hairline crack at the sensors...

Last but not least,the chrome paint part which will fall off after some time(about a year) which makes it looks ugly.. doh.gif

And i bought the phone ori set on 1-4-2011 at a price of 1950.. sweat.gif
So expensive and it depreciates sooo fast...dropped a few hundred after 1 or 2 months.. cry.gif

Think this time if im gonna buy it,will compare with htc one and samsung s4 1st. Im a sony fan,but if the xperia z is smoked too far behind by htc/samsung then i will not get the xperia z..Also,i will definitely get ap set and wait awhile for the price to drop a little first..

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I'm actually excited about the Z and I can't wait to see it dunk underwater in beer!

I'm hoping that's possible of course smile.gif

But I'll give it a while before I buy it, won't join the pre-order.
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QUOTE(eugenetwh @ Feb 21 2013, 11:08 PM)
Is the preorder available at every sony centre nation wide or just those stated below the ads ? rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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i got this from my friend which is working under this sony centre so the rest of the sony centres im not sure smile.gif

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r u sure 1199? or 199?
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i try check with the friend about the stuff included in package.
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QUOTE(nasiayam @ Feb 22 2013, 07:29 PM)
yesterday i tengah makan with friends when the one of our drinks tertumpah on the table, suddenly everyone go to save their phone on the table phone from drowning  tongue.gif if xperia z let it swim only  rclxms.gif

looking forward to troll my friends with a waterproof phone  biggrin.gif
yesterday i went to the sony store as well, i think the xperia series quality build is really good and elegant, didn't really catch my eyes last time due to so-so specs only

i checked out note 2 nearby as well, too plasticky for me tongue.gif
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QUOTE(ck.chunkeat @ Feb 22 2013, 07:46 PM)
Hmm,so far the only thing i can remember is the arc will turn off by itself when its in my pocket...After awhile it's fixed by its own,maybe fixed by software update,not sure.. tongue.gif

Also,the video recording is a little bad as the audio and video is not in sync..

Not to mention theres the hairline crack at the sensors...

Last but not least,the chrome paint part which will fall off after some time(about a year) which makes it looks ugly.. doh.gif

And i bought the phone ori set on 1-4-2011 at a price of 1950.. sweat.gif
So expensive and it depreciates sooo fast...dropped a few hundred after 1 or 2 months.. cry.gif

Think this time if im gonna buy it,will compare with htc one and samsung s4 1st. Im a sony fan,but if the xperia z is smoked too far behind by htc/samsung then i will not get the xperia z..Also,i will definitely get ap set and wait awhile for the price to drop a little first..
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I bought my arc bout 1200 or 1400 i cant remember, but an ap set. Until now i love my arc however due to its single core proc n very low internal memory, my arc lag frequently n i unable to update most of the apps. Build quality is good altho it is plastic mostly. But i did has that hairline crack at the sensor area. My chrome paint is still like new as i protected it wit tpu case ever since i bought the phone. The arc looks very sexy without the case but it feels too fragile, i always feel insecure when it is naked, so i sacrificed the sexiness for better protection.
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i know,but at the same price,htc one get 16gb of space extra. tongue.gif
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y? i think it is always better to save your files in microSD instead of internal memory. who knows your device may fail any time and when send for warranty, all data may be wipe out in internal memory cause need to reset device. in any case, your files in microSD card won't be touched at all
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QUOTE(ckchan @ Feb 22 2013, 09:46 PM)
err... for me, smaller internal memory does not matter much as long as it have microSD card slot.

y? i think it is always better to save your files in microSD instead of internal memory. who knows your device may fail any time and when send for warranty, all data may be wipe out in internal memory cause need to reset device. in any case, your files in microSD card won't be touched at all
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i got this from my friend which is working under this sony centre so the rest of the sony centres im not sure  smile.gif

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QUOTE(eugenetwh @ Feb 22 2013, 10:15 PM)
I shall call my usual sony centre tomorrow. Haha  rclxms.gif  rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(uzary @ Feb 22 2013, 09:36 PM)
I bought my arc bout 1200 or 1400 i cant remember, but an ap set. Until now i love my arc however due to its single core proc n very low internal memory, my arc lag frequently n i unable to update most of the apps. Build quality is good altho it is plastic mostly. But i did has that hairline crack at the sensor area. My chrome paint is still like new as i protected it wit tpu case ever since i bought the phone. The arc looks very sexy without the case but it feels too fragile, i always feel insecure when it is naked, so i sacrificed the sexiness for better protection.
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haha,ive thrown away my clear tpu case as it has grown yellowish over time and the paint still fall off despite the case...
But i have to admit,my sony survived many falls due to my carelessness...tongue.gif
Still,theres many cracks on the front cover other than the hairline crack on the sensor and the back cover suffered some paint chipped off..

Not sure this have anything to do with sony's build quality or not.. tongue.gif
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Just hv a chat wit my bestfren, he is using lumia920. We cant wait to hv a low light camera shoot out contest. Ofcoz im well aware lumia920 has the upperhand during lowlight however i did mentioned to him that if he troll me too muc when he got the better pic, i'll challenge him in a water proof contest. Hahaha laugh.gif waterproof feature indeed got a beauty of its own.
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i wonder now Exmor RS handle the low light photograph... because the sun mentioned L920 can shoot can pull longer shutter speed because of that. that's why you see L920 shot all landscape type lol... never see people moving in pasar malam those moving type of shot. i want see this type of shot of 3 phone tongue.gif

XZ, L920, and HTC ONE
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Xperia Z's camera is quite good but not as expected(because our expectation for sony's sensor is really high)
And the HTC One's ultrapixel, i have heard of the camera does quite well in low light, as it absorb 3 times more light than normal sensor, but it sacrifices the daylight performances..and the pixel is relatively low(4mp)
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I wonder how good is this phone camera compared to HTC One?
I believe currently in the Android market this phone has the best camera, but HTC One ultrapixel is kinda interesting.
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QUOTE(OptimusStar @ Feb 22 2013, 11:58 PM)
I wonder how good is this phone camera compared to HTC One?
I believe currently in the Android market this phone has the best camera, but HTC One ultrapixel is kinda interesting.
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u can look at 3rd 4th post abt xperia Z review from many different site,
i still haven't put it all up yet but there r ady plenty of review n hands on to read laugh.gif

complete xperia z review
http://www.engadget.com/2013/02/20/sony-xperia-z-review/
http://reviews.cnet.co.uk/mobile-phones/so...eview-50010121/
http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z-review-887p9.php

if u would like to knw HTC one camera also, well i can put the links here
http://www.gsminsider.com/2013/02/htc-one-...iew-camera.html
http://crave.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/htc-one-vs...ested-50010488/

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lol,i still dont know why others bashed me when i mention bout htc one's camera might be able to beat xperia z's camera before htc one is launched...eventhough im on sony's side...
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lol,i still dont know why others bashed me when i mention bout htc one's camera might be able to beat xperia z's camera before htc one is launched...eventhough im on sony's side...
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yesterday i tengah makan with friends when the one of our drinks tertumpah on the table, suddenly everyone go to save their phone on the table phone from drowning  tongue.gif if xperia z let it swim only  rclxms.gif

looking forward to troll my friends with a waterproof phone  biggrin.gif
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I am currently using the Acro S... you should see the amount of times things gets spilled on it or someone accidentally splatter food or other dirties on my phone.. they would be like... "Oh s**t, so sorry!" and what not in a very panicked state.. while myself on the other hand, extremely calm, and the would be like wtf?.. LOL
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Nvm,im cool. biggrin.gif

1 and a half week to go till launch date!! rclxm9.gif

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yes but they are a little too offensive imo.. tongue.gif
Nvm,im cool. biggrin.gif

1 and a half week to go till launch date!! rclxm9.gif
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It's well known bout this thread here. If you look at One thread, you'll find that they don't even bother whether their One camera or XZ camera is better/superior. For them they gonna buy the phone because they like it. End of story hmm.gif
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QUOTE(waveweaver @ Feb 23 2013, 01:24 AM)
It's well known bout this thread here. If you look at One thread, you'll find that they don't even bother whether their One camera or XZ camera is better/superior. For them they gonna buy the phone because they like it. End of story hmm.gif
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will it bend? that is the question  shocking.gif


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the whole chassis is bending, wouldn't it have any effect on the chips inside?
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the whole chassis is bending, wouldn't it have any effect on the chips inside?
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exmor r vs exmor rs

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lenssapphire(5 groups 5 elements)sony(5 groups 5 elements)
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QUOTE(nasiayam @ Feb 23 2013, 03:52 AM)
the whole chassis is bending, wouldn't it have any effect on the chips inside?
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I think no problem as iphone 5 also bend but still work perfectly.
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I tried ordering from Sony KLCC but they just ask for my contact details. No preorder yet for KLCC
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Feb 23 2013, 05:05 AM)
exmor r vs exmor rs

phoneiphone 5xperia Z
camera sensorSony exmor rSony exmor rs
imaging moduleSony unknown modelSony IU135F3-Z
lenssapphire(5 groups 5 elements)sony(5 groups 5 elements)
F-numberF2.4F2.2

camera mode, auto, hdr off, stabilization on

[redacted]

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Horrible, nearly non-existent stabilisation on the Xperia Z. Fingers crossed this is beta software at work.

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My HTC One X just died today. Screen shattered and cant turn on. Faster launch it here ! I need a new phone badly. Haha.. Hopefully Sony doesnt disappoint me.
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My HTC One X just died today. Screen shattered and cant turn on. Faster launch it here ! I need a new phone badly. Haha.. Hopefully Sony doesnt disappoint me.
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SONY Malaysia updated their website with Xperia Z coming soon
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but at least after bending it, the glass goes back to it's original shape. unlike aluminium, after bending it, it just stayed there as it is.
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Anyone pre-order already from Sony Centre?
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SC Aeon Cheras Selatan

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QUOTE(ckchan @ Feb 23 2013, 01:35 PM)
scary... yes.
but at least after bending it, the glass goes back to it's original shape. unlike aluminium, after bending it, it just stayed there as it is.
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Feb 23 2013, 05:05 AM)
exmor r vs exmor rs

phoneiphone 5xperia Z
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imaging moduleSony unknown modelSony IU135F3-Z
lenssapphire(5 groups 5 elements)sony(5 groups 5 elements)
F-numberF2.4F2.2

camera mode, auto, hdr off, stabilization on


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Night shot - iPhone 5 win
Color reproduction - iPhone 5 win
Details - iPhone 5 win
Image stabilize - iPhone 5, as they was an error on Xperia Z


Smoothness - Xperia Z win
Day time - I give to Xperia Z as they is some over expose issue on iPhone 5


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so far, Tan Electronics accepts pre-order. They already have pre order POPs in their stores.

Tan Electronics stores:

Jalan TAR
Sony Center The Gardens
Sony Center Ikano Power Center
SC Aeon Taman Equine
SC Aeon Cheras Selatan
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I see. Thanks for the info~ Will checkout Ikano later.
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so far, Tan Electronics accepts pre-order. They already have pre order POPs in their stores.

Tan Electronics stores:

Jalan TAR
Sony Center The Gardens
Sony Center Ikano Power Center
SC Aeon Taman Equine
SC Aeon Cheras Selatan
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Any price quote?

i am ready to pre-order if there's any
plus do you have contacts number for them?
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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Feb 23 2013, 02:29 PM)
Night shot - iPhone 5 win
Color reproduction - iPhone 5 win
Details - iPhone 5 win
Image stabilize - iPhone 5, as they was an error on Xperia Z
Smoothness - Xperia Z win
Day time - I give to Xperia Z as they is some over expose issue on iPhone 5
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somehow i prefer Z's WB laugh.gif
and auto exposure seems like Z is little faster hmm.gif
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Any price quote?

i am ready to pre-order if there's any
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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Feb 23 2013, 02:29 PM)
Night shot - iPhone 5 win
Color reproduction - iPhone 5 win
Details - iPhone 5 win
Image stabilize - iPhone 5, as they was an error on Xperia Z
Smoothness - Xperia Z win
Day time - I give to Xperia Z as they is some over expose issue on iPhone 5
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night shot : i think it is xperia z at 2:02, whn u over expose at the other end

Details : it is also xperia z, as they always refocus, n u will notice sharper tree n plants

smoothness : i will give it to iphone 5, bcauz xperia z always refocus whn u r moving,
but in iphone 5 u will notice huge exposure change whn u r moving around (slow exposure detection)
but still xperia z refocusing will disturb the users much more

colour reproduction : i think tis will depends on the users preference,
if me i will focus more on the colour depth more, which both of them suk
but nothing much can expect from a phone tat use a small camera sensor laugh.gif

i think exmor r is quite good still can compete with exmor rs in normal lightning condition
whn shooting in normal camera mode, excluding HDR & scenery mode in xperia z

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Horrible, nearly non-existent stabilisation on the Xperia Z. Fingers crossed this is beta software at work.
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there is one thing holding me back to choose this

sony officially stated xperia z supports up to 32GB microsd

and there are ppl report 64GB is supported by formatting the microsd into FAT32 format, Japan docomo version supports exfat format, sony jp got pay microsoft license for exfat

i wonder how's malaysia version xperia z?
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QUOTE(squall0833 @ Feb 23 2013, 03:55 PM)
there is one thing holding me back to choose this

sony officially stated xperia z supports up to 32GB microsd

and there are ppl report 64GB is supported by formatting the microsd into FAT32 format, Japan docomo version supports exfat format, sony jp got pay microsoft license for exfat

i wonder how's malaysia version xperia z?
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XPeria Z support up to 32GB.
But it can accept 64GB provided the sdcard use Fat32 format. Default format for 64GB sdcard is exFat. Just reformat it into Fat32 and you're good to go biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(waveweaver @ Feb 23 2013, 04:03 PM)
XPeria Z support up to 32GB.
But it can accept 64GB provided the sdcard use Fat32 format. Default format for 64GB sdcard is exFat. Just reformat it into Fat32 and you're good to go biggrin.gif
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but FAT32 maximum file size only 4GB sad.gif

thats why it bothers me


i cannot put file bigger than 4GB sad.gif
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QUOTE(squall0833 @ Feb 23 2013, 04:19 PM)
but FAT32 maximum file size only 4GB sad.gif

thats why it bothers me
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QUOTE(squall0833 @ Feb 23 2013, 04:19 PM)
but FAT32 maximum file size only 4GB sad.gif

thats why it bothers me
i cannot put file bigger than 4GB sad.gif
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format it as ext4 if u don't want to hotswap
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2161214

Read the first few post,they say the "washed out colors" of the screen is because thats the color of the wallpaper,its gray and not fully black...
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Feb 23 2013, 04:55 PM)
format it as ext4 if u don't want to hotswap
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Hotswap mean we cant simply take out the sd card n replace with another right? Correct me if im wrong.
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A user review : he did touch on the colors of the display
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QUOTE(kingvui78 @ Feb 23 2013, 01:18 PM)
SONY Malaysia updated their website with Xperia Z coming soon
http://www.sony.com.my/productcategory/mob-phone
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FINALLY....

QUOTE(jonrwg @ Feb 23 2013, 03:14 PM)
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A user review : he did touch on the colors of the display
He mentioned and demo delete of the installed bloatware is possible


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Good preview, gues the black level aint that black enough. Not really an issue for me tho.
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FINALLY....
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format it as ext4 if u don't want to hotswap
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u sure xperia z can format the 64GB external card into ext4 format?
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u sure xperia z can format the 64GB external card into ext4 format?
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Hotswap mean we cant simply take out the sd card n replace with another right? Correct me if im wrong.
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can, but the SD card [ext 4 file system] tat u take out cannot be supported
with most of the windows computer unless u install ext4 driver

linux use ext4, windows use ntfs & exfat,
in linux only support file integrity with their own file system, example ext4
ntfs & exfat or fat32 does not, thus u may get file corruption,
so i recommend format sd card with ext4
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but still, I prefer xperia zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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A user review : he did touch on the colors of the display
He mentioned and demo delete of the installed bloatware is possible


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QUOTE(jeff10012003 @ Feb 23 2013, 07:34 PM)
FINALLY....
confirmed is it?
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Oh ya!! I almost forgot another problem i had with my xperia arc..
Hope its better in xperia Z...
The problem is the touchscreen...If you press one spot on the screen then press another spot very quickly,it will be registered as a swipe..also,the screen will kind of like shake around even when your finger is touching the screen but didnt move...(I dont know how to explain this second problem.. sweat.gif )

Still,what i want to say is that my current smart phone is almost 2 years old and the touch screen is not very good compared to the iphone 4 which was released earlier than xperia arc..i can say that iphone touch screen is sooo smooth that it totally smoked xperia's touch screen...So i want to know whether xperia z faces this problem or not..how smooth will the touch screen be?
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QUOTE(eugenetwh @ Feb 23 2013, 09:40 PM)
My usual sony centre's boss told me most probably coming next week... she told me no need to preorder. LOL tongue.gif  tongue.gif

however, the price she say not yet confirm... might be ranging from 1999-2199  hmm.gif
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Wah, arriving so fast?
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I think her next week meant 2 weeks from now i think. sweat.gif sweat.gif

You know, when you are still a kid. Your mommy won't let you have ice cream until u finish your homework or stuff? But the waiting somehow makes it better... That's how im feeling now biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
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u sure xperia z can format the 64GB external card into ext4 format?
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QUOTE(eugenetwh @ Feb 23 2013, 10:10 PM)
I think her next week meant 2 weeks from now i think.  sweat.gif  sweat.gif

You know, when you are still a kid. Your mommy won't let you have ice cream until u finish your homework or stuff? But the waiting somehow makes it better... That's how im feeling now  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif
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I don't mind waiting a few more weeks, but I think I've already decided.

HTC One is one butt ugly phone but the Z is nice.
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I don't mind waiting a few more weeks, but I think I've already decided.

HTC One is one butt ugly phone but the Z is nice.
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QUOTE(benny888 @ Feb 23 2013, 07:11 PM)
A user review : he did touch on the colors of the display
He mentioned and demo delete of the installed bloatware is possible


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Thanks for the video. It can't be pure black in 100% brightness because this was TFT LCD not AMOLED. That part not important, no one suppose use in brightness 100%, not even more than 50%.

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My friend which working under the tan electronics sony centre told me that the dock is only coming with the preorder package.

:/ I hope that's not true
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QUOTE(theWeird_Weird @ Feb 23 2013, 11:15 PM)
My friend which working under the tan electronics sony centre told me that the dock is only coming with the preorder package.

:/ I hope that's not true
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It COULD still come as freebies as previous sony flagships all comes with freebies to attract buyers to buy and after a few weeks or 1/2 months,the price will drop and there will be no freebies...

So in other words we are paying for the freebies..tongue.gif

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Based on the leaked spec of s4, other then the a bit faster proc, i think xz will do well this tym. I knew it quad core is the limit so far for mobile phone. As long as xz is using quad, i already happy enough. What i can c from the latest proc such as snapdragon 600 is a higher benchmark score. In term of daily usage or performance i think we wont c much different.
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QUOTE(uzary @ Feb 23 2013, 11:21 PM)
Based on the leaked spec of s4, other then the a bit faster proc, i think xz will do well this tym. I knew it quad core is the limit so far for mobile phone. As long as xz is using quad, i already happy enough. What i can c from the latest proc such as snapdragon 600 is a higher benchmark score. In term of daily usage or performance i think we wont c much different.
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Yes,and on top of that,with sony's support for the custom dev,im sure we can get much more from the phone. smile.gif

Still,the Touchless gestures for screen navigation rumoured in S4 might be something interesting that might snatch away market share from htc and sony..

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Wait, the dock is coming with the pre-order only?

I wonder how much the dock is when sold separately?

from UK prices, looks like it's about RM100+

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QUOTE(refnulf @ Feb 23 2013, 11:36 PM)
Wait, the dock is coming with the pre-order only?

I wonder how much the dock is when sold separately?

from UK prices, looks like it's about RM100+
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Yea,should be around that price..
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QUOTE(ck.chunkeat @ Feb 23 2013, 09:50 PM)
Oh ya!! I almost forgot another problem i had with my xperia arc..
Hope its better in xperia Z...
The problem is the touchscreen...If you press one spot on the screen then press another spot very quickly,it will be registered as a swipe..also,the screen will kind of like shake around even when your finger is touching the screen but didnt move...(I dont know how to explain this second problem.. sweat.gif )

Still,what i want to say is that my current smart phone is almost 2 years old and the touch screen is not very good compared to the iphone 4 which was released earlier than xperia arc..i can say that iphone touch screen is sooo smooth that it totally smoked xperia's touch screen...So i want to know whether xperia z faces this problem or not..how smooth will the touch screen be?
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QUOTE(eugenetwh @ Feb 23 2013, 09:40 PM)
My usual sony centre's boss told me most probably coming next week... she told me no need to preorder. LOL tongue.gif  tongue.gif

however, the price she say not yet confirm... might be ranging from 1999-2199  hmm.gif
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QUOTE(eugenetwh @ Feb 23 2013, 10:02 PM)
Ipoh town...
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Nice to hear about this. Ipoh at where? I also from ipoh.
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QUOTE(benny888 @ Feb 23 2013, 07:11 PM)
A user review : he did touch on the colors of the display
He mentioned and demo delete of the installed bloatware is possible

» Click to show Spoiler - click again to hide... «

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wow uncle benny are you back with Sony?

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Back from Ikano Sony Centre. They definitely have started pre-order. But price and release date not confirmed. And they also have no idea what accessories will be included with standard package. At the moment, price is RM2299, and to pre-order, down payment is RM200.

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QUOTE(Ninja @ Feb 24 2013, 12:09 AM)
Back from Ikano Sony Centre. They definitely have started pre-order. But price and release date not confirmed. And they also have no idea what accessories will be included with standard package. At the moment, price is RM2299, and to pre-order, down payment is RM200.
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Wah, why he give me wrong info when I called Friday?

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Yeah, that's what I'm wondering also. Maybe I asked the wrong staff. LoL.
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Need opinion from u guys, will xz sell like hot cake? i not sure shud i pre order or buy on the spot once it sell?
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Need opinion from u guys, will xz sell like hot cake? i not sure shud i pre order or buy on the spot once it sell?
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hmm,imo,hot cake or not,we should still wait for the 1st batch guinea pigs to go test it 1st.. tongue.gif
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wow,just checked htc one thread..htc zoe have awesome features!!
always smile,object remove,one sequence shot mode.. hope these feature are portable and will come to xperia Z rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(jonrwg @ Feb 23 2013, 07:58 PM)
Well according to my friend working in Sony.  biggrin.gif
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So price range currently is 1999-2299.. thank god i already put 200 on my pre order..i'be been saving and currently have enough for the phone+ accessories.. biggrin.gif

QUOTE(eugenetwh @ Feb 23 2013, 09:40 PM)
My usual sony centre's boss told me most probably coming next week... she told me no need to preorder. LOL tongue.gif  tongue.gif

however, the price she say not yet confirm... might be ranging from 1999-2199  hmm.gif
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better to put in 2299...as that is currently rumored price, too..

QUOTE(Ninja @ Feb 24 2013, 12:09 AM)
Back from Ikano Sony Centre. They definitely have started pre-order. But price and release date not confirmed. And they also have no idea what accessories will be included with standard package. At the moment, price is RM2299, and to pre-order, down payment is RM200.

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QUOTE(ck.chunkeat @ Feb 24 2013, 01:09 AM)
wow,just checked htc one thread..htc zoe have awesome features!!
always smile,object remove,one sequence shot mode.. hope these feature are portable and will come to xperia Z rclxms.gif
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htc Zoe is IMO one hell of a great features.. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(ck.chunkeat @ Feb 24 2013, 01:09 AM)
wow,just checked htc one thread..htc zoe have awesome features!!
always smile,object remove,one sequence shot mode.. hope these feature are portable and will come to xperia Z rclxms.gif
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always smile is available in xperia phone long ago it is called smile detection

object remove sony also got, but dono under what name in google play store
u will need to buy it, there r more like motiongraph etc
look at sony google play account for extra camera app tat bring stop motion,
time lapse, video editing, video convert & more, but these u have to pay for it tongue.gif

search 4 these term in google play, so tat u can see more sony app
Sony Digital Network
SONY MOBILE DEVELOPER WORLD
SONY MOBILE COMMUNICATIONS
SONY ELECTRONICS ASIA PACIFIC
SONY CORPORATION

there r few more & some not available in asia
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Feb 24 2013, 01:40 AM)
always smile is available in xperia phone long ago it is called smile detection

object remove sony also got, but dono under what name in google play store
u will need to buy it, there r more like motiongraph etc
look at sony google play account for extra camera app tat bring stop motion,
time lapse, video editing, video convert & more, but these u have to pay for it  tongue.gif

search 4 these term in google play, so tat u can see more sony app
Sony Digital Network
SONY MOBILE DEVELOPER WORLD
SONY MOBILE COMMUNICATIONS
SONY ELECTRONICS ASIA PACIFIC
SONY CORPORATION

there r few more & some not available in asia
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kk,wll check it out when i got the time. tongue.gif
thanks!!
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QUOTE(benny888 @ Feb 23 2013, 07:11 PM)
A user review : he did touch on the colors of the display
He mentioned and demo delete of the installed bloatware is possible


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xperia z launcher has super easy uninstall mode, one level beyond the 2011-2012 xperias app drawer uninstall, and he went for harder method to uninstall? Perhaps he just want to force stop it before uninstall, but why?
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report in, I from penang, I too exited like u guys, cant wait until it launch day. anyway anybody ask sony mobile at prangin mall? last time I bring a friend there to buy acro s , they give a lot of free gift, the salesman name is eric.
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QUOTE(mic747eal18 @ Feb 24 2013, 09:47 AM)
report in, I from penang, I too exited like u guys, cant wait until it launch day. anyway anybody ask sony mobile at prangin mall? last time I bring a friend there to buy acro s , they give a lot of free gift, the salesman name is eric.
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also from penang here, where got sony mobile at prangin mall?
do you mean the SE shop/ service center at 4th floor?
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Guys a lil birdie told me 1 telco will be launching XZ on march 14 .... smile.gif
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also from penang here, where got sony mobile at prangin mall?
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not at 4th floor, is at ground floor beside the shop selling apple accessories.
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QUOTE(redrum77 @ Feb 24 2013, 10:52 AM)
Guys a lil birdie told me 1 telco will be launching XZ on march 14 .... smile.gif
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Can be said to be around next week after 6th march..cause 6th march is only the launching in Malaysia... sad.gif
QUOTE(mic747eal18 @ Feb 24 2013, 10:58 AM)
not at 4th floor, is at ground floor beside the shop selling apple accessories.
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Should I get it from here or in UK? Coz i will be going back to UK for my convo in a week time. Opinion?
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Should I get it from here or in UK? Coz i will be going back to UK for my convo in a week time. Opinion?
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Should I get it from here or in UK? Coz i will be going back to UK for my convo in a week time. Opinion?
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if u can get the free headset offered in uk, i think it worth it. however the only problem i think would be the warranty.
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if you plan to staying at Malaysia than u get it from here. If work at UK than just buy it at there. This will solve your warranty issue in the future time.
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if u can get the free headset offered in uk, i think it worth it. however the only problem i think would be the warranty.
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I'm working in msia currently but so far all my phones i bought nvr been send for warranty before (touch wood). laugh.gif
I shall play the phone in the store first. See what freebies they gonna give.
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This or HTC one.. Hahaiizz..
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i suppose u mean noise cancellation during calls
yes, almost all smart phone like android, iphone & windows phone have tis feature
until now, still haven't seen a device without tis feature

if u mean noise cancellation over music playback u will need a supported headphone
unlike sony walkman
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QUOTE(monocle @ Feb 24 2013, 12:46 PM)
This or HTC one.. Hahaiizz..
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Think to yourself, spec matters, or usability better?
For me, I made my mind once, and not going back on it.
Compare both phones thoroughly, consider what will be missing after you purchased your phone.
Like One, the viewing angle is good, the camera might be good( i still cannot say as sample pictures release still cannot satisfy my eyes) and performance wise, it's the best to date.
For me, One is a dealbreaker as I like to swap between all three of my 32gb mSD cards, OTG is not an option for me so far. Some more I'm the type to go on activities, usually swimming, so Z can help me on that. I can even pair with my Olympus Tough camera to shoot underwater! biggrin.gif

This are some of factors for me that made my mind on Z..
What's yours.. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Feb 24 2013, 01:00 PM)
i suppose u mean noise cancellation during calls
yes, almost all smart phone like android, iphone & windows phone have tis feature
until now, still haven't seen a device without tis feature

if u mean noise cancellation over music playback u will need a supported headphone
unlike sony walkman
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Pre order at paradigm didn't pay anything . Once stock arrived they will call
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Pre order at paradigm didn't pay anything . Once stock arrived they will call
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Where and what is this place ??
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I went to Sony Wings store in The Curve earlier and they don't have a pre-order. They said that they will take names/contact information and call when the item arrives. First come first serve, etc.

Sony Centre in Ikano had a pre-order up and they will take your name, contact number and the colour of the phone you want. Then they ask for RM200 for deposit and issue you with a receipt for the deposit with the phone information. Call you when it arrives so you can go and collect. So I asked him a few questions earlier and he said he has NO exact price for the phone, NO idea about what's in the box, and NO idea about the freebies that are coming with the pre-order.

Eventually he said just give him RM50 for the pre-order so I did that. Now just wait till mid of March for the phone to arrive. No issues if you want to cancel the pre-order, just go back and collect the deposit. If use cc, then you'll lose 2% from the deal because they'll return cash during cancellation.

So summary is, no idea what's going on but I need a phone as my current phone is dying smile.gif So just grab this in the next few weeks icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(jeff10012003 @ Feb 24 2013, 01:02 PM)
Think to yourself, spec matters, or usability better?
For me, I made my mind once, and not going back on it.
Compare both phones thoroughly, consider what will be missing after you purchased your phone.
Like One, the viewing angle is good, the camera might be good( i still cannot say as sample pictures release still cannot satisfy my eyes) and performance wise, it's the best to date.
For me, One is a dealbreaker as I like to swap between all three of my 32gb mSD cards, OTG is not an option for me so far. Some more I'm the type to go on activities, usually swimming, so Z can help me on that. I can even pair with my Olympus Tough camera to shoot underwater! biggrin.gif

This are some of factors for me that made my mind on Z..
What's yours.. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(teckyang97 @ Feb 24 2013, 06:20 PM)
FYI,all Sony water resistant phone is not designed for swimming even ip57,its design for accidental damage,raining,and bathing
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Think it will survive swimming..theres a video demo from soyacincau where he brings it along for swimming and demo-ed the underwater camera feature..and as long as you dont brings it too deep as the deeper underwater it goes,the higher the water pressure..What i think is that the phone will survive at 1m depth for more than 30min but will not survive 30min at a deeper depth,e.g. maybe 5m?
Just theory though,no hard evidence to support this..

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread...=2147051&page=2

Some replies from someone over at the xda..
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IP = Ingress Protection

5 = Dust protected
Desc - Ingress of dust is not entirely prevented, but it must not enter in sufficient quantity to interfere with the satisfactory operation of the equipment; complete protection against contact

7 = Immersion up to 1 m
Desc:
Ingress of water in harmful quantity shall not be possible when the enclosure is immersed in water under defined conditions of pressure and time (up to 1 m of submersion).

Test Routine:
Test duration: 30 minutes
Immersion at depth of at least 1 m measured at bottom of device, and at least 15 cm measured at top of device


The reason why it's not 8 because for you to be able to get IP58 is


8 = Immersion beyond 1 m
Desc: The equipment is suitable for continuous immersion in water under conditions which shall be specified by the manufacturer. Normally, this will mean that the equipment is hermetically sealed. However, with certain types of equipment, it can mean that water can enter but only in such a manner that it produces no harmful effects.

Test Routine:
Test duration: continuous immersion in water
Depth specified by manufacturer

and to get the IP67

6 = Dust tight

Desc: No ingress of dust; complete protection against contact


The highest level is IP68 which requires a dust tight and is capable of staying underwater for an unlimited time. Like submarines.

But this isn't dust tight because of the open ports. And also this can't emerge underwater for an unlimited time because the body isn't airtight and moisture can develop inside the case if submerged longer.



So.......... It is only stated to last 30minutes underwater because that's the criteria level of IP rules is not very specific enough.

So sony only have 2 choices for this... Either go with the rule to state the device that it can be submerged 1meter for 30 minutes or state that it can be submerged down below the water for centuries

So to summarize it all the 30minutes 1 meter is not the device limitation but just the certification's description.

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QUOTE(teckyang97 @ Feb 24 2013, 06:20 PM)
FYI,all Sony water resistant phone is not designed for swimming even ip57,its design for accidental damage,raining,and bathing
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Yeah, would be nice to be able to grab the phone if it rings and I'm in the shower. Things like that makes a lot of difference smile.gif
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QUOTE(ck.chunkeat @ Feb 24 2013, 07:01 PM)
Think it will survive swimming..theres a video demo from soyacincau where he brings it along for swimming and demo-ed  the underwater camera feature..and as long as you dont brings it too deep as the deeper underwater it goes,the higher the water pressure..What i think is that the phone will survive at 1m depth for more than 30min but will not survive 30min at a deeper depth,e.g. maybe 5m?
Just theory though,no hard evidence to support this..

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread...=2147051&page=2

Some replies from someone over at the xda..
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That's not my point,i bring my acro s for swimming also,but the phone is NOT designed to do that,that's all i can say
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Questions... It says... 1m submersion for 30mins.... So after 25mins i remove it from water.... will the time left for future submersion will only be 5mins or will it reset back?

Follow up... if it resets back... how long do i have to wait to submerge it again?

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QUOTE(eugenetwh @ Feb 24 2013, 09:01 PM)
Questions... It says... 1m submersion for 30mins.... So after 25mins i remove it from water.... will the time left for future submersion will only be 5mins or will it reset back?

Follow up... if it resets back... how long do i have to wait to submerge it again?

sudden realisation sweat.gif sweat.gif
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It needs to be dried, then you can submerge it for another 30mins for not more than 1m
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QUOTE(Stitchie @ Feb 24 2013, 09:25 PM)
It needs to be dried, then you can submerge it for another 30mins for not more than 1m
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QUOTE(eugenetwh @ Feb 24 2013, 09:01 PM)
Questions... It says... 1m submersion for 30mins.... So after 25mins i remove it from water.... will the time left for future submersion will only be 5mins or will it reset back?

Follow up... if it resets back... how long do i have to wait to submerge it again?

sudden realisation sweat.gif sweat.gif
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that is if u want ur phone to survive, there r tones of video in utube
tat ppl r summering their xperia waterproof phone more thn those written in safety instruction

just make sure the port cover is tight after each 30 mins
work 4 my xperia V

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QUOTE(junsheng @ Feb 24 2013, 09:42 PM)
that is if u want ur phone to survive, there r tones of video in utube
tat ppl r summering their xperia waterproof phone more thn those written in safety instruction

just make sure the port cover is tight after each 30 mins
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As much as i have faith in Sony... I would not challenge the safety guidelines... smile.gif

Not gonna risk damaging mine. sweat.gif sweat.gif
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QUOTE(eugenetwh @ Feb 24 2013, 09:50 PM)
As much as i have faith in Sony... I would not challenge the safety guidelines...  smile.gif

Not gonna risk damaging mine.  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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You know what? Since they have propagated the feature, when you do it within the limits stated and something untoward happens, just send in for a warranty claim. But of course, you do not know the ramifications and may have to spend time in ensuring you come out unscathed.
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QUOTE(PeeEl @ Feb 24 2013, 10:15 PM)
You know what? Since they have propagated the feature, when you do it within the limits stated and something untoward happens, just send in for a warranty claim. But of course, you do not know the ramifications and may have to spend time in ensuring you come out unscathed.
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how can they be sure if the phone wasnt submerged into the water for more than 1m or for more than 30mins?
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QUOTE(Stitchie @ Feb 24 2013, 10:20 PM)
how can they be sure if the phone wasnt submerged into the water for more than 1m or for more than 30mins?
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Actually can,but just not recommended only
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QUOTE(Stitchie @ Feb 24 2013, 10:20 PM)
how can they be sure if the phone wasnt submerged into the water for more than 1m or for more than 30mins?
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i meant i will submerge it bt not over the specified guidelines... Not Overly deep n overly long
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QUOTE(teckyang97 @ Feb 24 2013, 10:24 PM)
Actually can,but just not recommended only
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At the end of the day, the certification is just an organisation coming in to say "Yes, we have tested it and can confirm that under lab conditions, it can be submerged under water @ xx meters for xx minutes". That's all.

The device may be able to last double that period, double that depth or even both together. We will never know. It has just been certified for a set value.

Same thing with computer processors. Why you buy them, they are set at a specific clock speed. Of course you could always overclock it and what not to get a higher clock speed for higher performance. But the reason they set a default speed is just their official guarantee.

Edit: Typo

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new sony xperia is coming, announcing in MWC next week laugh.gif
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It a mid range. Anyway I wish tablet Z come together with xperia z.
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QUOTE(robertlee @ Feb 24 2013, 11:00 PM)
It a mid range. Anyway I wish tablet Z come together with xperia z.
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Tomorrow mwc event we might c an international version of xperia tablet z. Somehow i hope sony will use a snapdrgon 600 proc rather than the s4 pro in the tablet z for the international version.
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Anyway, I think will do Liquidpel treatment on Xperia Z . Double water protection.

http://www.facebook.com/liquipelmy
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QUOTE(robertlee @ Feb 24 2013, 11:05 PM)
Anyway, I think will do Liquidpel treatment on Xperia Z . Double water protection.

http://www.facebook.com/liquipelmy
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Then i think this phone can be WATERPROOF already

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I check out the case for xperia z, however havent found any that look nice, all seems to make the phone looks much bigger n bulky, also spoilt the beauty of the phone. But i always feels insecure without a case. How many of u using ur phone naked?
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QUOTE(uzary @ Feb 24 2013, 11:17 PM)
I check out the case for xperia z, however havent found any that look nice, all seems to make the phone looks much bigger n bulky, also spoilt the beauty of the phone. But i always feels insecure without a case. How many of u using ur phone naked?
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no case and screen protector for me. too bulky with case, then for wt i buy a sexy, slim phone.....
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no case and screen protector for me. too bulky with case, then for wt i buy a sexy, slim phone.....
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Yup..same here.
Use the phone naked when it's new and shinny. Show off its beauty while we can. Once the phone have scratches here and there..then only we put on some casing to hide those scratches.
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QUOTE(uzary @ Feb 24 2013, 11:17 PM)
I check out the case for xperia z, however havent found any that look nice, all seems to make the phone looks much bigger n bulky, also spoilt the beauty of the phone. But i always feels insecure without a case. How many of u using ur phone naked?
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Will be using the phone naked.

Highly likely will not be able to slide into the dock if you have a case on it.
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Will be using the phone naked.

Highly likely will not be able to slide into the dock if you have a case on it.
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Agreed... Besides, the main selling point in terms of design is the full glass back/front/side. Putting on casing for z will certainly ruin the beauty of this phone.
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Just back from sg went to funan and tested out the z
First impression when holding the phone ... iphone5 feeling with 5" display lol so slim and sleek.
Super responsive. However didn't manage to test the camera in low light area. Price is 988sgd
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QUOTE(soonlee33 @ Feb 25 2013, 12:23 AM)
Just back from sg went to funan and tested out the z
First impression when holding the phone ... iphone5 feeling with 5" display lol so slim and sleek.
Super responsive. However didn't manage to test the camera in low light area. Price is 988sgd
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Wow, $988 x 2.5012 = RM2,471... laptop pricing liao.
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Wow, $988 x 2.5012 = RM2,471... laptop pricing liao.
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Wow, $988 x 2.5012 = RM2,471... laptop pricing liao.
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i think it was cheap for Singaporean, say if their executive basic salary is 2.5k sing dollar, the phone is still less than 1k. but here for us, if the price is rm2299, salary rm2.5k, remaining balance only rm200 sweat.gif doh.gif
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QUOTE(uzary @ Feb 25 2013, 12:35 AM)
i think it was cheap for Singaporean, say if their executive basic salary is 2.5k sing dollar, the phone is still less than 1k. but here for us, if the price is rm2299, salary rm2.5k, remaining balance only rm200  sweat.gif  doh.gif
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Need to eat Maggie mee for that whole month.. laugh.gif
But atleast can stare at the new shinny phone during lunchtime while eating Maggie...bwahaha
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QUOTE(waveweaver @ Feb 25 2013, 12:52 AM)
Need to eat Maggie mee for that whole month.. laugh.gif
But atleast can stare at the new shinny phone during lunchtime while eating Maggie...bwahaha
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i really hope we get a dock, so no need to spend extra for the dock. coz i thinking og getting this bluetooth headset,

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QUOTE(eugenetwh @ Feb 24 2013, 09:01 PM)
Questions... It says... 1m submersion for 30mins.... So after 25mins i remove it from water.... will the time left for future submersion will only be 5mins or will it reset back?

Follow up... if it resets back... how long do i have to wait to submerge it again?

sudden realisation sweat.gif sweat.gif
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someone else's replies from xda..

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(IP)(5)(7)

IP = Ingress Protection

5 = Dust protected
Desc - Ingress of dust is not entirely prevented, but it must not enter in sufficient quantity to interfere with the satisfactory operation of the equipment; complete protection against contact

7 = Immersion up to 1 m
Desc:
Ingress of water in harmful quantity shall not be possible when the enclosure is immersed in water under defined conditions of pressure and time (up to 1 m of submersion).

Test Routine:
Test duration: 30 minutes
Immersion at depth of at least 1 m measured at bottom of device, and at least 15 cm measured at top of device


The reason why it's not 8 because for you to be able to get IP58 is


8 = Immersion beyond 1 m
Desc: The equipment is suitable for continuous immersion in water under conditions which shall be specified by the manufacturer. Normally, this will mean that the equipment is hermetically sealed. However, with certain types of equipment, it can mean that water can enter but only in such a manner that it produces no harmful effects.

Test Routine:
Test duration: continuous immersion in water
Depth specified by manufacturer

and to get the IP67

6 = Dust tight

Desc: No ingress of dust; complete protection against contact


The highest level is IP68 which requires a dust tight and is capable of staying underwater for an unlimited time. Like submarines.

But this isn't dust tight because of the open ports. And also this can't emerge underwater for an unlimited time because the body isn't airtight and moisture can develop inside the case if submerged longer.



So.......... It is only stated to last 30minutes underwater because that's the criteria level of IP rules is not very specific enough.

So sony only have 2 choices for this... Either go with the rule to state the device that it can be submerged 1meter for 30 minutes or state that it can be submerged down below the water for centuries

So to summarize it all the 30minutes 1 meter is not the device limitation but just the certification's description.

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QUOTE(uzary @ Feb 24 2013, 11:17 PM)
I check out the case for xperia z, however havent found any that look nice, all seems to make the phone looks much bigger n bulky, also spoilt the beauty of the phone. But i always feels insecure without a case. How many of u using ur phone naked?
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Check out this one. The 3 on top. Stylish Leather Case, Frosted Shield, Multi Colour Shield. Looks pretty nice.
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QUOTE(waveweaver @ Feb 24 2013, 11:28 PM)
Yup..same here.
Use the phone naked when it's new and shinny. Show off its beauty while we can. Once the phone have scratches here and there..then only we put on some casing to hide those scratches.
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the phone scratch resistant icon_idea.gif

will keep beauty forever unless u drop it from 14 floor tongue.gif
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QUOTE(uzary @ Feb 24 2013, 11:17 PM)
I check out the case for xperia z, however havent found any that look nice, all seems to make the phone looks much bigger n bulky, also spoilt the beauty of the phone. But i always feels insecure without a case. How many of u using ur phone naked?
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I already bought my casing a niilkin leather flip case even before phone is here
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QUOTE(uzary @ Feb 25 2013, 12:35 AM)
i think it was cheap for Singaporean, say if their executive basic salary is 2.5k sing dollar, the phone is still less than 1k. but here for us, if the price is rm2299, salary rm2.5k, remaining balance only rm200  sweat.gif  doh.gif
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yeah... that's y i say s'porean have better spending power than m'sian. it's only our s**t govt always converting the currency to compare and always say m'sia is still very cheap in many things...
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the phone scratch resistant icon_idea.gif

will keep beauty forever unless u drop it from 14 floor tongue.gif
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Yes it is..BUT it not scratch proof unless somehow it's using diamond plated screen in which i highly doubt...lolz doh.gif

There's no such thing as beauty forever. Soone or later micro scratch will appear especially on glass the back cover tongue.gif
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for the first time ever,

a phone that I'm not going to use cases but transparent protector if available

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i used sony ericsson aino naked, but i put it in a pouch. thinking of using pouch for z too.
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Its not so easy to get scratches on glass, especially tempered glass.
Glass is harder than metal..
unless it's dropped on a really hard floor(like rock) with sharp edges.

Im using my xperia p naked, and the aluminium back got scratched by the floor.

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