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 Sony Xperia Z & Xperia ZL Official Thread V2, 5", 4core, 2GBram, 13mp, LTE, waterproof

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post Feb 18 2013, 10:41 PM

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QUOTE(choonwai11 @ Feb 18 2013, 06:05 PM)
actually all depends on the pricing of the ZL model. if the price different is big compare to Z, i will definitely go for ZL. i believe there r few members here also waiting for ZL.

reason? :

1. i dun like glass back of the Z.
2. i dun need water proof and dust proof, will happily exclude it for cheaper price.
3. dun like the covers on all the ports, annoying to me.
4. physical camera button always useful.
5. smaller size, but not so significant, only smaller by a bit.

unless sony is going to Premium the Z model like iphone strategy, if not, more variant of model will attract more customer and sell more unit, ideally.
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glass back = more fragile + finger print magnet
water and dust proof = not a must for me, just like bonus
covering ports = yes, indeed quite annoying each time need to charge, unless sony design some locking mechanism for those opened flaps.
physical camera button = indeed useful on some occasion. also like bonus if have
smaller size = VERY IMPORTANT TO ME... i don't quite like huge phone
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post Feb 20 2013, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Feb 20 2013, 04:21 PM)
Sorry, I make mistake on that part.

All LCD was TFT, just S-LCD was an evolution of TN based TFT-LCD.

Sony never mention using which type of TFT-LCD. But from review, it was not really yet comparable with any manufacturer use.

I haven't seen yet XPERIA Z screen, but from current XPERIA V, in normal general look, it never better than current HTC Butterfly which base on S-LCD as well. My eye was popping out when I first seen the Butterfly but not any XPERIA phone in market.

Sony every year did same mistake, the way it announcing it phone base on spec was in wrong timing.

I am pretty sure the wow effect of XPERIA Z will not as stunning sales at it suppose due to it again's wrong timing.
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erm... to compare V to butterfly is abit unfair la bcos V is only 720p while butterfly is 1080p... sure big difference...

but i do agree that SLCD does have better picture quality than the "unknown screen type" on xperia phone
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post Feb 21 2013, 11:11 AM

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QUOTE(uzary @ Feb 21 2013, 10:55 AM)
But for obvious marketing reason, octa is a better name. Same case wher current led tv isnt a led tv at all, only a backlit led lcd tv. But this infos only people like us knows, but for mass market n general people, they only buy anythg without knowing ir care.

Htc one iinm marketed their phone at 4mp, that is a risky move eventho the reality it was a 12-13mp camera. Iinm a 4mpX3
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That's why HTC always emphsize on the "ultrapixel" in all their spec and promotion.

and i don't quite understand why u said it is actually 12-13mp? i thought all photos taken with HTC One is of 4mp photo size (2464x1632) ? Can HTC One take a photo with the 12mp (4290x2800 )?
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post Feb 21 2013, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(uzary @ Feb 21 2013, 09:54 PM)
U hv to anticipate the price will be more or less at this price tag. Do u seriously think this phone will be less than 2k?

No offense, i'll speak in general, sometime i hate people whining about the phone is late into the market, then once the phone hit the market, those who were whining still dun buy the phone, gave various of reasons like the phone is too expensive, or a newer phone with better spec will come up, or gona to wait for "insert brand" phone to released an so on.

My point is, if u decide to buy watever phone u want, be prepared, save money n but as soon as u able to afford it. Dun play the waiting game. It will be never ending wait. Technology always move very fast.
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well said!

but i am more interested in zl, still no news about it and wonder how much it'll be
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post Feb 22 2013, 05:31 PM

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QUOTE(ck.chunkeat @ Feb 22 2013, 04:15 PM)
If Xperia Z and HTC one comes at the same price of 2299,then Xperia Z have another thing to lose out.. sad.gif
The internal memory of 16gb vs 32 gb...
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but Z gain back a huge advantage by having microSD card
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QUOTE(ck.chunkeat @ Feb 22 2013, 05:52 PM)
i know,but at the same price,htc one get 16gb of space extra. tongue.gif
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err... for me, smaller internal memory does not matter much as long as it have microSD card slot.

y? i think it is always better to save your files in microSD instead of internal memory. who knows your device may fail any time and when send for warranty, all data may be wipe out in internal memory cause need to reset device. in any case, your files in microSD card won't be touched at all
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QUOTE(freakenstein @ Feb 23 2013, 02:27 AM)
Gotta admit , thats scary..
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scary... yes.
but at least after bending it, the glass goes back to it's original shape. unlike aluminium, after bending it, it just stayed there as it is.
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QUOTE(teckyang97 @ Feb 23 2013, 02:01 PM)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOapwFHhaBM...be_gdata_player
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post Feb 24 2013, 11:46 PM

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QUOTE(Areas Elysian @ Feb 24 2013, 11:29 PM)
Will be using the phone naked.

Highly likely will not be able to slide into the dock if you have a case on it.
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Agreed... Besides, the main selling point in terms of design is the full glass back/front/side. Putting on casing for z will certainly ruin the beauty of this phone.
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post Feb 25 2013, 09:26 AM

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QUOTE(uzary @ Feb 25 2013, 12:35 AM)
i think it was cheap for Singaporean, say if their executive basic salary is 2.5k sing dollar, the phone is still less than 1k. but here for us, if the price is rm2299, salary rm2.5k, remaining balance only rm200  sweat.gif  doh.gif
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yeah... that's y i say s'porean have better spending power than m'sian. it's only our s**t govt always converting the currency to compare and always say m'sia is still very cheap in many things...
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QUOTE(waveweaver @ Feb 25 2013, 09:22 PM)
Wow..butthurt already rclxub.gif
You can bad mouth any other brand available but feel butthurt when i posted one sentence..?
Sony fans really worst than others..even below ifags. doh.gif

Ohh..and before you flame me further..let me tell you that i never bad mouth Xperia Z phone or any other phone. All phone have its good and bad..pro and cons.
For me all phones are good and okay. It's just their fans that was bad.
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Bro, true that you never bad mouth abt other brand.... But that sentence of yours bad mouth about the forumers in this thread la... It's like u r picking a fight.... If others want to complain, just let them be la. Like some of them said, this is sony thread, at least they di not complain to other thread...
Appreciate you managed to stayed neutral all these while and contribute alot of ideas and opinion. Others want to complain, let them be... In fact some of them are just voicing their opinion.... At the end, this open forum....
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post Feb 25 2013, 10:10 PM

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QUOTE(junsheng @ Feb 25 2013, 10:06 PM)
smaller version coming soon, but with different design, xperia SP dua core krait pro
another xperia L they estimated it is going to be 7" not sure atm  laugh.gif
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Is Xperia L previously known as Doga?
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post Feb 26 2013, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(uzary @ Feb 26 2013, 02:41 PM)
dunno this is a good news or bad news, Xperia Z might be using a 2 different panel.

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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread...2155145&page=20

http://www.pocketpc.ch/sony-xperia-z/18288...n-displays.html

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not again??? same issue with xperia tx???
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QUOTE(uzary @ Feb 26 2013, 02:55 PM)
for TX case, is it software or hardware?
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for TX, it's said there's 2 screen type, a/c and b. type b having better contrast.
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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Feb 26 2013, 03:32 PM)
Ya, what ever seen from own eye is the most accurate, that the reason I never pre-order anything.

Mobile Phone was not something limited edition where you can't get after finish sold. I don't see the point for pre-order unless you want to be the superb 1st hand user getting it. Then different story.
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yeah... but yes, some people really do that. some rather pay a higher premium price to get it from overseas. some rather line up for hours or even days jjust so to get it first hand.... me no understand why... rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(teckyang97 @ Feb 26 2013, 05:30 PM)
Yup,I'm willing to pay RM1750 for nexus 4 due to the specs and everything,nexus 7 i pay RM950 16GB in early days,now can easily get RM600,but i still have no regret
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QUOTE(Andrewtst @ Feb 26 2013, 05:33 PM)
Ya, same as my Nexus 10 32GB, I paid SGP $680 = RM 1,715.00 but I no regret, I know actual price was only USD $499 = RM 1,560. But ok la, no choice and I no regret till now. smile.gif
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i envy u guys have extra cash to spend on buying gadgets at premium price... sweat.gif
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QUOTE(refnulf @ Feb 27 2013, 09:56 AM)
Samsung is indeed the king of android devices at the moment, we all know that and they've come up with some very good devices. But having one company monopolise market share is always a bad thing, which is why companies like HTC, Sony, etc have to step up and provide phones that can compete against Samsung. Healthy competition benefits the consumers, and Google too!
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monopoly... bad... really bad for consumer... shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Feb 27 2013, 10:11 AM)
just wonder, what makes you choose certain brand of phone over google nexus 4?

because i just know nexus 4 have nearly same processor power+ 2gb ram?
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gotta post this in HTC ONE thread too lulz, see what is the standing out point hehe.
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err... for me, performance of the device is important. but judging from all current and latest phone spec, the performance gap is minor i think, especially in real life usage. all the benchmark score, just for showing only.
true la some phone start up facebook or whatsapp 0.5sec faster... but what is there for me to lose?

another thing is the design of the phone. it's one aspect that really differentiate one phone from another

nexus 4? great device at affordable price. but lack of sd card and LTE turns me away as my next phone to ugrade
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QUOTE(refnulf @ Feb 27 2013, 12:01 PM)
True, plus I believe that we're going to hit a wall real soon in regards to processors in our smartphones. At least till they can come up with improved battery technology. Battery technology hasn't changed much in many years and it doesn't scale at all with processor technology. Too powerful processor also no use, you'll find yourself constantly recharging the phone. Soon we'll be up to 2 hour screen time with each phone biggrin.gif

I don't like the Nexus 4. Just not a fan of the design. Not a fan of the S3s either. The XZ has been the phone that has wow'ed me and grabbed my attention.
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this is so so true. battery tech have not change/improve much when compared to other technical spec of the phone
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QUOTE(Eugene91 @ Mar 3 2013, 10:08 AM)
Xperia P, T, V and Z display comparison

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wow... all these comparison... it really makes the Z screen looks ridiculously washout. i mean, most xperia does have screen washout issue when directly compared to other brand. but now, this latest Z is even worst than all previous xperia models

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