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post Mar 7 2020, 12:11 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Mar 7 2020, 11:12 AM)
some did it not for with the tax relief in mind but to have a place to try to grow their money better than FD
(with min 2.5% with EPF,,,,,,,with the current global economic challenges,....the FD rates are forecasted to be getting lower and lower.....)
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sorry. i didnt get wat u mean.
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post Mar 7 2020, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(MNet @ Mar 7 2020, 12:11 PM)
sorry. i didnt get wat u mean.
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biggrin.gif that could be the purpose

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post Mar 7 2020, 08:12 PM

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Any idea if EPF reduction is auto op in or I have to submit a form to maintain my contribution. I do not wish for them to decrease my EPF contribution.
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post Mar 7 2020, 08:14 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Mar 7 2020, 08:12 PM)
Any idea if EPF reduction is auto op in or I have to submit a form to maintain my contribution. I do not wish for them to decrease my EPF contribution.
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You need to fill a form to maintain 11%.
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post Mar 7 2020, 08:18 PM

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QUOTE(Havoc Knightmare @ Mar 7 2020, 08:14 PM)
You need to fill a form to maintain 11%.
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post Mar 7 2020, 08:45 PM

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It seems you're better off doing the 4% as self contribution, if you employer drags your EPF contribution to the middle of following month (cutoff date)

E.g. Apr 2020 first month take effect

Employer submits your share of 11%:
- salary 25th of Apr
- employer submits 11% mid of May - dividend for 1 day of May and full month subsequently

Self contribute 4%, employer submits your share of 7%:
- salary 25th of Apr
- self contribute 4% before end of Apr - dividend for 1 day of Apr and full month subsequently
- employer submits 7% mid of May - dividend for 1 day of May and full month subsequently

Do correct me if I'm wrong
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post Mar 7 2020, 09:36 PM

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any idea if the form is out to sign for the 11% stay? cuz i ask my hr yesterday they say form not out yet
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post Mar 7 2020, 10:39 PM

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QUOTE(macystar @ Mar 7 2020, 09:36 PM)
any idea if the form is out to sign for the 11% stay? cuz i ask my hr yesterday they say form not out yet
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https://www.kwsp.gov.my/documents/20126/147...+PEKERJA%29.pdf

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QUOTE(cybpsych @ Mar 7 2020, 10:39 PM)
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thanks for the updates
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post Mar 10 2020, 05:52 PM

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How long will dividend be paid following the death of a member? My dad passed away a couple of years back and dividends have been paid so far every year. The last time I visited a branch, the staff there told me that dividend will be paid until a nominee initiates the withdrawal process by submitting the death cert etc, otherwise it will be paid until the member age reaches 100 years old.

KWSP website also lists the below

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    Dividends will continue to be credited into members’ account until the savings are transferred to the Registrar of Unclaimed Monies after 100 years

    Members will continue to enjoy annual dividend up to age 100.

https://www.kwsp.gov.my/-/epf-no-change-to-...e-60-withdrawal

I have some concerns that I just thought about recently.

1. Will JPN one day notify KWSP that my dad is already deceased and thus KWSP will stop dividend payments to his account?

2. If the above never happens, KWSP notes that dividend will continue to be paid until the member reaches 100 years old before it is transferred to the Registrar of Unclaimed Money but some websites pointed me to the UNCLAIMED MONEYS ACT 1965 where an account which has been dormant for 7 years can be transferred to the Registrar of Unclaimed Money at any time. Which one is applicable in this case or do I need to add payment to my dad's account to keep it active?

Appreciate if anyone has some experience on this. My family feel that it is a waste to withdraw the money and to stop benefiting from the dividend payments.
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post Mar 10 2020, 05:59 PM

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QUOTE(jxwang @ Mar 10 2020, 05:52 PM)
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Appreciate if anyone has some experience on this. My family feel that it is a waste to withdraw the money and to stop benefiting from the dividend payments.
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Not sure how much is inside Yr dad's kwsp...
Why not withdraw out n then do self contribution into Yr mum n Yr a/c?
60k pm max
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post Mar 10 2020, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Mar 10 2020, 05:59 PM)
Not sure how much is inside Yr dad's kwsp...
Why not withdraw out n then do self contribution into Yr mum n Yr a/c?
60k pm max
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Quite a sum since my dad have never used his EPF money for anything before even for the house. It'll take years from my entire family contributing 60k to finish it sweat.gif Even if we put the balance in FD in the mean time will probably earn less, so we want to maximize what we can from the EPF.
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QUOTE(jxwang @ Mar 10 2020, 06:08 PM)
Quite a sum since my dad have never used his EPF money for anything before even for the house. It'll take years from my entire family contributing 60k to finish it  sweat.gif Even if we put the balance in FD in the mean time will probably earn less, so we want to maximize what we can from the EPF.
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120k per annum and the rest in fd.. Then repeat every year... Fd vs epf variance abt 2%...you do Yr math to see how much variance lost per year x number of years to finish transfer to Yr mum n Yr a/c.

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post Mar 10 2020, 07:22 PM

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QUOTE(jxwang @ Mar 10 2020, 05:52 PM)
How long will dividend be paid following the death of a member? My dad passed away a couple of years back and dividends have been paid so far every year. The last time I visited a branch, the staff there told me that dividend will be paid until a nominee initiates the withdrawal process by submitting the death cert etc, otherwise it will be paid until the member age reaches 100 years old.

KWSP website also lists the below
https://www.kwsp.gov.my/-/epf-no-change-to-...e-60-withdrawal

I have some concerns that I just thought about recently.

1. Will JPN one day notify KWSP that my dad is already deceased and thus KWSP will stop dividend payments to his account?

2. If the above never happens, KWSP notes that dividend will continue to be paid until the member reaches 100 years old before it is transferred to the Registrar of Unclaimed Money but some websites pointed me to the UNCLAIMED MONEYS ACT 1965 where an account which has been dormant for 7 years can be transferred to the Registrar of Unclaimed Money at any time. Which one is applicable in this case or do I need to add payment to my dad's account to keep it active?

Appreciate if anyone has some experience on this. My family feel that it is a waste to withdraw the money and to stop benefiting from the dividend payments.
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found this...not sure if it is applicable to non muslim members or muslim members or both
or this clause had been amended...
best if you check it out further....

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&es...XuTIW2iYP4uDF6L




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QUOTE(jxwang @ Mar 10 2020, 05:52 PM)
How long will dividend be paid following the death of a member? My dad passed away a couple of years back and dividends have been paid so far every year. The last time I visited a branch, the staff there told me that dividend will be paid until a nominee initiates the withdrawal process by submitting the death cert etc, otherwise it will be paid until the member age reaches 100 years old.

KWSP website also lists the below
https://www.kwsp.gov.my/-/epf-no-change-to-...e-60-withdrawal

I have some concerns that I just thought about recently.

1. Will JPN one day notify KWSP that my dad is already deceased and thus KWSP will stop dividend payments to his account?

2. If the above never happens, KWSP notes that dividend will continue to be paid until the member reaches 100 years old before it is transferred to the Registrar of Unclaimed Money but some websites pointed me to the UNCLAIMED MONEYS ACT 1965 where an account which has been dormant for 7 years can be transferred to the Registrar of Unclaimed Money at any time. Which one is applicable in this case or do I need to add payment to my dad's account to keep it active?

Appreciate if anyone has some experience on this. My family feel that it is a waste to withdraw the money and to stop benefiting from the dividend payments.
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check here >> https://www.kwsp.gov.my/member/withdrawals/full/death
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post Mar 10 2020, 07:45 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Mar 10 2020, 07:22 PM)
found this...not sure if it is applicable to non muslim members or muslim members or both
or this clause had been amended...
best if you check it out further....

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&es...XuTIW2iYP4uDF6L
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No longer eligible for the death benefit as at the last time I visited the branch.
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post Mar 10 2020, 07:46 PM

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QUOTE(jxwang @ Mar 10 2020, 07:45 PM)
No longer eligible for the death benefit as at the last time I visited the branch.
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the "Green" box...."nomination will be revoked ....."

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post Mar 10 2020, 07:50 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Mar 10 2020, 07:46 PM)
the "Green" box...."nomination will be revoked ....."
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Well, guess I have to see if anyone has experienced something similar. The few times I have made inquiries, none of the staff have mentioned this though. Each staff said that the money can be kept till 100 years until death cert is submitted.
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QUOTE(jxwang @ Mar 10 2020, 07:50 PM)
Well, guess I have to see if anyone has experienced something similar. The few times I have made inquiries, none of the staff have mentioned this though. Each staff said that the money can be kept till 100 years until death cert is submitted.
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do a proactive approach or wait for responses is up to you...

but if I am at this current situation, I will just print out that article and go ask the PIC in Kwsp...
else if later kena withdrawal complication then doh.gif mad.gif

Each staff said that the money can be kept till 100 years until death cert is submitted......bcos it really is...
EPF members aged 75 to 100 to continue receiving dividends
http://english.astroawani.com/malaysia-new...dividends-58470


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post Mar 10 2020, 07:57 PM

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QUOTE(jxwang @ Mar 10 2020, 07:45 PM)
No longer eligible for the death benefit as at the last time I visited the branch.
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QUOTE(jxwang @ Mar 10 2020, 07:50 PM)
Well, guess I have to see if anyone has experienced something similar. The few times I have made inquiries, none of the staff have mentioned this though. Each staff said that the money can be kept till 100 years until death cert is submitted.
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which exactly are you referring?

the dividend or the death benefit (khairat kematian)?

iirc, dividend will still continue with payout; but the death benefit (khairat kematian) must be applied within 6 months after death.

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