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jxwang
post Mar 10 2020, 05:52 PM

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How long will dividend be paid following the death of a member? My dad passed away a couple of years back and dividends have been paid so far every year. The last time I visited a branch, the staff there told me that dividend will be paid until a nominee initiates the withdrawal process by submitting the death cert etc, otherwise it will be paid until the member age reaches 100 years old.

KWSP website also lists the below

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    Dividends will continue to be credited into members’ account until the savings are transferred to the Registrar of Unclaimed Monies after 100 years

    Members will continue to enjoy annual dividend up to age 100.

https://www.kwsp.gov.my/-/epf-no-change-to-...e-60-withdrawal

I have some concerns that I just thought about recently.

1. Will JPN one day notify KWSP that my dad is already deceased and thus KWSP will stop dividend payments to his account?

2. If the above never happens, KWSP notes that dividend will continue to be paid until the member reaches 100 years old before it is transferred to the Registrar of Unclaimed Money but some websites pointed me to the UNCLAIMED MONEYS ACT 1965 where an account which has been dormant for 7 years can be transferred to the Registrar of Unclaimed Money at any time. Which one is applicable in this case or do I need to add payment to my dad's account to keep it active?

Appreciate if anyone has some experience on this. My family feel that it is a waste to withdraw the money and to stop benefiting from the dividend payments.
jxwang
post Mar 10 2020, 06:08 PM

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QUOTE(yklooi @ Mar 10 2020, 05:59 PM)
Not sure how much is inside Yr dad's kwsp...
Why not withdraw out n then do self contribution into Yr mum n Yr a/c?
60k pm max
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Quite a sum since my dad have never used his EPF money for anything before even for the house. It'll take years from my entire family contributing 60k to finish it sweat.gif Even if we put the balance in FD in the mean time will probably earn less, so we want to maximize what we can from the EPF.
jxwang
post Mar 10 2020, 07:45 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Mar 10 2020, 07:22 PM)
found this...not sure if it is applicable to non muslim members or muslim members or both
or this clause had been amended...
best if you check it out further....

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&es...XuTIW2iYP4uDF6L
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No longer eligible for the death benefit as at the last time I visited the branch.
jxwang
post Mar 10 2020, 07:50 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Mar 10 2020, 07:46 PM)
the "Green" box...."nomination will be revoked ....."
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Well, guess I have to see if anyone has experienced something similar. The few times I have made inquiries, none of the staff have mentioned this though. Each staff said that the money can be kept till 100 years until death cert is submitted.
jxwang
post Mar 10 2020, 07:58 PM

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QUOTE(MUM @ Mar 10 2020, 07:56 PM)
do a proactive approach or wait for responses is up to you...

but if I am at this current situation, I will just print out that article and go ask the PIC in Kwsp...
else if later kena withdrawal complication then  doh.gif  mad.gif
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Been a few years. Nothing I can do at this point if kena already anyway haha. I'll try to keep in mind the next time I drop by or when I can finally get through their hotline.
jxwang
post Mar 10 2020, 08:08 PM

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https://www.kwsp.gov.my/member/nomination

Their page and information listed a bit confusing though.

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If no application is made within a year

    The nomination is cancelled
    Member's heir may submit an application according to the procedures for withdrawal without nomination
Then in the same page, just a few paragraphs below it says this.

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For Muslim members only, a nomination will only be invalidated if the nominee/administrator fails to make a withdrawal application within one year from the Member’s date of decease


Seems like won't affect the money in the account. Just some more hassle when trying to withdraw. Glanced through the withdrawal without nomination, seems like we have all the required documents to do so. Anyway, just wondering about the status of the dividend payments. I'll worry about the withdrawal another day whistling.gif .
jxwang
post Mar 10 2020, 08:10 PM

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QUOTE(cybpsych @ Mar 10 2020, 07:57 PM)
which exactly are you referring?

the dividend or the death benefit (khairat kematian)?

iirc, dividend will still continue with payout; but the death benefit (khairat kematian) must be applied within 6 months after death.
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The original question, the dividend payments, and whether the account will be listed as dormant account and transferred to Registrar of Unclaimed Money. Another user brought up death benefit which I answered that we are no longer eligible for.

 

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