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post Jan 15 2014, 09:07 AM

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QUOTE(EddyLB @ Jan 15 2014, 08:21 AM)
........... Or is it means for withdrawal of A/c 1 to invest in Unit Trust, the calculation is based on RM196,800 ? And when I reach 55 y/o I still can withdraw all amount and close EPF a/c ?
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yes, Calculation based on RM 196.800 at age 55, if younger....lower rate, (ex, RM 27 000 for age 30) and yes. (until further notice)... tongue.gif
Purpose:
This withdrawal allows you to withdraw part of your savings in Account 1 for investments to increase your retirement fund to support your life after retirement.
You are allowed to invest not more than 20% of the total amount in excess of your Basic Savings in Account 1 through the Appointed Fund Management Institutes approved by the Ministry of Finance.
Basic Savings:
With regards to the second statement from the Purpose section, Basic Savings is defined as;

"A pre-determined savings amount in your Account 1 according to your age to enable you to achieve a minimum savings amount of RM196,800.00 when you are 55 years old. The savings cannot be withdrawn until you are 55 years old."


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post Jan 15 2014, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Jan 15 2014, 11:05 AM)
I thought I read a newspaper report that the overall performance of those who used EPF money for UT investments did not do well (they withdrew too early? Bought the wrong UT? Etc).

Now EPF is encouraging people to use EPF $ to invest in UT? Does not add up.

Yes, I know EPF has too much $ to look after. But ...
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hmm.gif "Now"??
i thought the scheme had started years back......(i think it started in 1996)
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edited..double posting.

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post Jan 15 2014, 11:26 AM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Jan 15 2014, 11:22 AM)
Sorry for the confusion.

I know withdrawal from EPF for UT investment was started many years ago (I used it and luckily for me, I withdrew all UT back to EPF a year or 2 before the 2008 crash).  rclxms.gif Good and happy for you...(what made you made "see" to decide to withdraw before 2008?)

I thought now EPF allows a bigger amount for UT investment. And thus the irrational logic behind it.
rclxub.gif pls elaborate how you see it is "bigger amount? most people would say otherwise notworthy.gif

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post Feb 23 2014, 12:39 PM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Feb 23 2014, 12:37 PM)
Upon 50 yrs old, v can withdraw 1/3 of savings
1/3 is fr (i) A/c 1 or (ii) A/c 2 or (iii) total in A/c 1 & 2
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info in this
http://www.kwsp.gov.my/portal/documents/10...r_2012__BM_.pdf

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post Mar 18 2014, 09:15 AM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Mar 18 2014, 09:10 AM)
On average, each member invested RM39.6k
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rclxms.gif that is why the KLSE is up, up, up,
hmm.gif those banks that has UT links will cont to be up, up,up because of the regular investment from members...
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post Mar 18 2014, 09:23 AM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Mar 18 2014, 09:18 AM)
I think this year will slow down due to higher retirement limit wef 1/1/2014
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hmm.gif maybe gomen trying to slow down the growth of the mkt valuation...currently on high side when compared with the neighbours
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post Apr 11 2015, 08:09 AM

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QUOTE(wil-i-am @ Apr 10 2015, 10:17 PM)
Employees Provident Fund (EPF) mulls realigning withdrawal age to close to 60
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just to add updates onto your info
EPF seeks consultation on withdrawal age.....Saturday, 11 April 2015
THE Employees Provident Fund (EPF) is planning to call for a public consultation as a first step towards raising the permissible age for members to withdraw their retirement savings from the current 55 years to 60 years.

hmm.gif will I be too old for the ...... doh.gif

http://www.thestar.com.my/Business/Busines...-age/?style=biz
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post Apr 11 2015, 09:23 AM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Apr 11 2015, 09:18 AM)
Maybe give the options of redrawal from 55 to 60.

So can cater to different needs and circumstances of people..
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hmm.gif if extent from 55 to 60....5 yrs no $$ withdrawals by the affected contributors....
rclxm9.gif wow,....just imaging the total amount of monies the gomen can accumulate from that in that 5 years.....BETTER cashflow control.....just like when a company extent the payment to suppliers from 30 days to 90 days...
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post Apr 11 2015, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Apr 11 2015, 09:34 AM)
Seeking public consultations, why not just say going to take unit trust, other fund agents and insurance agents to see how to press dry people's money?
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saying that is more "Pleasing" to the contributors ears..... laugh.gif
hmm.gif Later they can says....85% of the public opinions "consulted" says that it is a GOOD moves to raise to 60 yrs.

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post Apr 11 2015, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Apr 11 2015, 11:12 AM)
Sorry, when reach 55, we shall have the right to withdraw part or full.
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isn't that is the current withdrawal policy?
now is better right...at 50 can withdraw part of it...
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post Apr 11 2015, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(supersound @ Apr 11 2015, 12:07 PM)
all the time is 50 can withdraw 1/3.
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in that case,...gomen may shift the goal post by 5 yrs....(all the same but moved by 5 yrs) drool.gif doh.gif
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jun 4 2016, 06:29 PM)
I wonder if non bumi will take up the shariah compliant EPF?  hmm.gif
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I will goto which ever gives me a "perceived BETTER" returns....
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post Jun 4 2016, 06:54 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jun 4 2016, 06:41 PM)
if like that, u needed to wait for the 1st year announcement then only make decision blush.gif

okay. if 1st year better than conventional one. u convert. then the following year, it become lower. then how? u already stuck with them. u cannot go back to conventional one  icon_question.gif
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so you no convert?

okay,...if 1st ~ 3yrs,...you no convert,...."IF" Syariah is 2% pa more....after 3 yrs ,..then you convert,...then like you said..."it become lower. then how? u already stuck with them. u cannot go back to conventional one "... biggrin.gif
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post Feb 6 2018, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Feb 6 2018, 11:19 AM)
2.5% min.

The EPF ensures that your savings are secure and receive reasonable dividends. In fact, it guarantees a minimum of 2.5 Per Cent Dividend annually. To ensure dividend payments, the EPF invests your contribution in approved financial instruments for optimum returns.

URL: http://www.kwsp.gov.my/portal/en/about-epf
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I think the Shariah one don't have minimum one...only the conventional one does
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post Feb 6 2018, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Feb 6 2018, 11:22 AM)
Not sure about Shahriah one since it'll be their first year.
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just found this...
"the syariah EPF scheme is an Islamic compliant scheme which cannot set a minimum dividend rate. "
http://www.malaysianchinesenews.com/2016/0...rovident-funds/

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QUOTE(Noyoudontcare @ Feb 6 2018, 07:30 PM)
Can chinese opt for shariah compliant account?
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read this?.....
INTRODUCTION TO SIMPANAN SHARIAH
https://secure.kwsp.gov.my/shariah/faq.html
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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Feb 7 2018, 09:34 AM)
Is the estate distribution subject to Shariah laws for non muslim account holders?
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read this?
look inside
SHARIAH
https://secure.kwsp.gov.my/shariah/faq.html
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post Dec 19 2018, 03:39 PM

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...... an increase in quarterly total investment income to RM12.88 billion for the first quarter ended 31 March 2018 (Q1 2018), a year-on-year increase of 9.20 per cent from RM11.79 billion recorded during the same period last year.

http://www.kwsp.gov.my/portal/en/news-list...DetailPage=true


an increase in quarterly total investment income to RM12.39 billion for the second quarter ended 30 June 2018 (Q2 2018),

http://www.kwsp.gov.my/portal/en/news-list...DetailPage=true

.......third quarter ended Sept 30, 2018 rose to RM14.61bil, ......
The retirement fund said on Wednesday the income was up 12.82% from RM12.95bil a year ago.
Read more at https://www.thestar.com.my/business/busines...vDDKcjK40Be0.99

1st, 2nd & 3rd quarter up.... thumbup.gif

increase in value term...how much was used for the investment? thus what is the % of ROi? hmm.gif

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QUOTE(prophetjul @ Dec 19 2018, 03:52 PM)
[url=http://www.kwsp.gov.my/portal/en/news-listing-page?

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thanks...
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