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 Proton Prevé V17, steady as she goes

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mohdshafie00
post Mar 20 2013, 07:24 PM

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QUOTE(testtube8 @ Mar 20 2013, 05:27 PM)
Just receive my IAFM+ CVT yesterday.

So sad just now was driving got a small stone hit the windscreen then now got a small mark on it.... sad.gif

sifus wta how to change the timing at the radio?
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if it is just a small mark can patch up using filler. go to dr cermin or such sure they have. cost might be around rm50-rm100 depends on how big it is.
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post Mar 20 2013, 07:24 PM

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QUOTE(hong3831 @ Mar 20 2013, 07:22 PM)
Attempting car loan for CFE. Wish can get approved~
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all the best rclxms.gif thumbup.gif
hong3831
post Mar 20 2013, 07:27 PM

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Just wonder anyone change thier HU to another brand? can work with steering control?
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post Mar 20 2013, 07:33 PM

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QUOTE(bat76 @ Mar 20 2013, 04:35 PM)
I have the same problem as yours since early this year. Went to SC, they couldn't fix it. They suggested me to send the HU to Bosch Penang for an inspection. No temporary replacement while waiting for my HU to be inspected, so I refused their suggestion.

No solution until now...  sad.gif
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Mine was fixed after changing antenna. LOL

For those interested in HU, you can see
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.5...17057559&type=1
PAPAGO GPS tongue.gif Only for Proton Preve.

This post has been edited by edwinkbs: Mar 20 2013, 07:34 PM
matS
post Mar 20 2013, 07:36 PM

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QUOTE(milkyTom5 @ Mar 19 2013, 05:22 PM)
Has anybody come across the following problem?

Half way driving the car, suddenly u feel a slight jerk, then ur car loss power, engine didnt die, press pedal still got rev sound, but car wont accerelate and speed keep dropping, engine faulty indicator light appear.

Need to stop the car, wait a while, restart engine then only can drive again, it happen randomly.

It happened when I was in Singapore, when I'm back to JB (I stay in KL), I checked with proton, they reflash all the software in the car, but after 1 week the problem happen again, I went to SS13 SC, they remove the trouble code, the problem come back again 3 hours after i take my car from the SC. I am kinda frustrated now....
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hi,
only check engine lit up?
what about cvt and esc warning light?
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post Mar 20 2013, 07:39 PM

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QUOTE(edwinkbs @ Mar 20 2013, 07:33 PM)
Mine was fixed after changing antenna. LOL

For those interested in HU, you can see
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.5...17057559&type=1
PAPAGO GPS tongue.gif Only for Proton Preve.
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looks good ~
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post Mar 20 2013, 09:08 PM

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QUOTE(Darkcloudz @ Mar 20 2013, 05:35 PM)
oh my! windscreen is costly man!
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Windscreen isn't costly, to replace a windscreen on CFE is just RM800 inclusive of labour.
IAFM+ variant would be cheaper
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post Mar 20 2013, 09:10 PM

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QUOTE(sanadi @ Mar 20 2013, 03:22 PM)
Yes, but this is FREE! Nothing is added or removed. Not as good as grounding cable perhaps, but if it is good enough, then it is good enough.

If it is not enough then you can add grounding cable.

I prefer to try the free options first.
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Well I believe when someone try something better, they will hardly look back.
I doubt many people will want to try that everytime they ignite the engine, its a good try none the less. wink.gif
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post Mar 20 2013, 09:14 PM

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QUOTE(CooShyRee @ Mar 20 2013, 03:26 PM)
any of u guys upgraded the HU 2 a better unit??? i know it voids warranty, but i do feel the current one is somewat lacking in features, also such a waste of space wit such a small screen in that quite big compartment. im not a preve owner, but i tested the HU, n feel it could be very much improved wit a better unit..
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It does not void warranty if it being done correctly.
The method to upgrade HU to a better unit is to purchase power socket converter of Bosch to the HU brand you desire. Eg. Pioneer, Alpine, etc

That particular socket may cost you around RM80 to RM100 each, it does not involve any wire temper.
This is safest method to upgrade your HU without voiding the warranty. Everything is just plug and play.
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post Mar 20 2013, 10:21 PM

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QUOTE(allenultra @ Mar 20 2013, 09:14 PM)
It does not void warranty if it being done correctly.
The method to upgrade HU to a better unit is to purchase power socket converter of Bosch to the HU brand you desire. Eg. Pioneer, Alpine, etc

That particular socket may cost you around RM80 to RM100 each, it does not involve any wire temper.
This is safest method to upgrade your HU without voiding the warranty. Everything is just plug and play.
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thanks your info. whole preve is good for me,just the HU a little bit let down. will consider if manage to get this car.
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post Mar 20 2013, 10:27 PM

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QUOTE(arthur88 @ Mar 17 2013, 03:27 PM)
then u will notice at last bar, it goes empty quite fast...first bar is not accurate..cannot measure like that...
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Thought it is because of more air to fuel ratio in fuel tank and boisterous driving style encorages vapourisation?
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post Mar 20 2013, 11:32 PM

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hi milky, normally they only erase trouble code if the engine@cvt sign appear when there is no fault with the car, maybe due to some glitches between sensors@ bugs. Normally they just reset it to default. But in ur case, u r having some problems, and they shud investigate the fault by referring to the trouble code. Ask them also to check the ecu connector and bracket. I'm not sure whther they r reflashing@just reset the ecu using padt. If reflash, they have to use laptop.

Please send to any prtn@eon branch for futher checking, not authorised dealer coz they normally dont have the faclities or enough expertise on trouble code.

On bosch hu, previously there are 2 oem for prtn, bosch(blaunpunkt) n clarion, but mainly is clarion. So, they actually try to use bosch coz many like gen2, savvy, persona, exora n saga using clarion, so, try something diff n great bargain offer by bosch since they r also supplying the esp, tc,abs, ebd sytems on preve.

U r right about clutch based cvt versus torque converter cvt. Same as single clutch(amt), dual clutch at versus torque conv at, which torque conv based still the smoothest operator among all.

When developing cfe n especially iafm+ variant which derived from cfe development, one of the way to make the engine efficient is to reduce@minimise powerloss through optimising operating temperature n using clutch based cvt besides other things such as 32bit ecu n torque based where as still many other manufacturers still opt for 16bit ecu to reduce cost especially on low end variant n na engine. There r still some soft turbo equip cars using 16 bit ecu. Less powerloss, more efficient n will translate better fc.

But since cvt based gbox make it easier to overrev than normal at, it seems the feedback from consumers, even its better than previous engine, but still not something to beat.

So, i think, if any prtn staff hear this, maybe try to do what other manufacturer do right now, power of mind, by using econ indicator. It does prove it manage to make the fc more efficient coz drivers' right foot is well control, as famously quote, fc is depend on right foot. I hope that they can come out with that in future product.

If any has driven any campro, campro iafm@cps engine based, it takes time to reach normal operating temperature compare to cfe n iafm+ during morning start. I heard also punch is continue doing their rnd in software dept to make the clutch work as efficient as any torque conv based. Hope fully they continue to release latest update on cvt adaptation which they r doing it for the hatch version.

But i hope that everybody remember that preve is a heavy car. Iafm+ couple with a manual version for saga,is actually better than cvt counterpart on overall performance, but for preve, between manual n cvt iafm+, cvt has an edge due to infinite ratio, so, the gbox easier to adapt it ratio with weight n etc, but for manual, u need to keep it at strategic powerband before shifting.

Jerking@rocking is exhibit at low speed, but it will be less through times, but still there. Hopefully punch will provide special solution, i think on hardware part to make it as good as torque conv. I heard honda n nissan, will coming out with cvt clutch based in the future.
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the only advice i can give to those involve in heavy traffic n stop n go situation, if dont need to speed beyond 60kmh, just rev not more than 1.6k rpm cuz between 1-1.6k rpm, it is being programmed to facilitate slow movement, n useful for heavy traffic.

N for slow cruising or less traffic, more than 60kmh but not more than 90kmh. Rev beyond 1.6k rpm, but not more than 1.9k rpm. Not only to avoid turbo from operating, but also cvt will change it character to become more agressive start from 2k rpm n above.

Speed below 90kmh, aerodynamic of the car dont play big part, thats why knowing how to handle the throttle can help a bit on fc. Speed beyond 90kmh, aerodynamic start playing it part, thats why even rev beyond 2k rpm, it wont hurt much coz aero helping out in reducing the fc n the throttle position@pressure is maintain at a point for a long time, there is no need extra energy which needed in stop n go situation coz not only aero, also rolling also help the engine from work hard to move the car.

The energy needed to move the car when stagnant is higher than when its already rolling. That is why, letting the car roll on itself after stop at traffic light@complete stop before throttling, does help in reducing fc. Not only due to rolling, it also can avoid overev(can also affect fc even not that much) due to clutch action.

This is eco indicator on ur own :-). Hopefully this help.
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QUOTE(bat76 @ Mar 20 2013, 07:13 PM)
Hi guys,

I bought my CFE Premium in June last year. For the past 3 weeks I feel my car becomes bumpier. Tyre pressure is OK (+2 of recommended pressure). What are the reasons for a car to become bumpier?
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Check the lining and condition of the tyre. Maybe worn out, pebble or stones stuck in the tyre or the steel belting in the tyre is out? It was reported that our stock champiro tyre could be old stock and hence could reach the end of shelf life.....
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post Mar 21 2013, 12:17 PM

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QUOTE(mat79 @ Mar 20 2013, 11:48 PM)
the only advice i can give to those involve in heavy traffic n stop n go situation, if dont need to speed beyond 60kmh, just rev not more than 1.6k rpm cuz between 1-1.6k rpm, it is being programmed to facilitate slow movement, n useful for heavy traffic.

N for slow cruising or less traffic, more than 60kmh but not more than 90kmh. Rev beyond 1.6k rpm, but not more than 1.9k rpm. Not only to avoid turbo from operating, but also cvt will change it character to become more agressive start from 2k rpm n above.

Speed below 90kmh, aerodynamic of the car dont play big part, thats why knowing how to handle the throttle can help a bit on fc. Speed beyond 90kmh, aerodynamic start playing it part, thats why even rev beyond 2k rpm, it wont hurt much coz aero helping out in reducing the fc n the throttle position@pressure is maintain at a point for a long time, there is no need extra energy which needed in stop n go situation coz not only aero, also rolling also help the engine from work hard to move the car.

The energy needed to move the car when stagnant is higher than when its already rolling. That is why, letting the car roll on itself after stop at traffic light@complete stop before throttling, does help in reducing fc. Not only due to rolling, it also can avoid overev(can also affect fc even not that much) due to clutch action.

This is eco indicator on ur own :-). Hopefully this help.
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thanks mat79 for ur advice.. will try to remember this on my daily driving as i always stuck in jam.. thumbup.gif
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post Mar 21 2013, 12:23 PM

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QUOTE(Gigabit @ Mar 21 2013, 09:00 AM)
Check the lining and condition of the tyre. Maybe worn out, pebble or stones stuck in the tyre or the steel belting in the tyre is out? It was reported that our stock champiro tyre could be old stock and hence could reach the end of shelf life.....
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The manufacture week of the tire is printed on the sidewall, you can check it yourself
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post Mar 21 2013, 02:02 PM

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QUOTE(edwinkbs @ Mar 20 2013, 07:33 PM)
Mine was fixed after changing antenna. LOL

For those interested in HU, you can see
http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.5...17057559&type=1
PAPAGO GPS tongue.gif Only for Proton Preve.
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What antenna did you change to? By the way what is the headlamp projector, high beam and fog light bulb type for preve?
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QUOTE(JJTam @ Mar 21 2013, 02:02 PM)
What antenna did you change to? By the way what is the headlamp projector, high beam and fog light bulb type for preve?
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of course the same one. changed @ SC.
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post Mar 21 2013, 03:48 PM

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QUOTE(JJTam @ Mar 21 2013, 02:02 PM)
What antenna did you change to? By the way what is the headlamp projector, high beam and fog light bulb type for preve?
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high beam and low beam H7,fog light HB4
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QUOTE(Gigabit @ Mar 21 2013, 09:00 AM)
Check the lining and condition of the tyre. Maybe worn out, pebble or stones stuck in the tyre or the steel belting in the tyre is out? It was reported that our stock champiro tyre could be old stock and hence could reach the end of shelf life.....
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Shelf life should be 4 or 5 years. The moment you start using the tyres will be the active life of the tyres which should be good for 2 to 4 years depending on type and compound so theoretically thos whould not be an issue since Preve only manufactured 2012 and tyres are 2012 as well.

Dampers always feel more comfortable when the car has been on the hoist for a period cos the cavitation pressure released. Drive for a while and same as before it went up the hoist. As the pressure build up in the damper and as it wears, the dampers becomes harder. If using sports dampers or coilovers, you will notice it more

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