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Serious How much dowries you would give, share your expirience

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post Jan 17 2013, 05:08 PM

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lucky i married a filipina, 0 dowry required smile.gif
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post Jan 17 2013, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(Alvin330000421 @ Jan 17 2013, 01:15 PM)
Cainis wedding really waste of money. In the end who benefit? The restaurants, the wedding photographer, the MC you hire, the wedding planner and the wedding dress designer. Its totally a mafia extortion scheme.

If I get married, I just want to drive my future waifu to putrajaya, with family, relatives and friends for the signing ceremony.

No tea ceremony and hell no stupid dinner banquet.
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QUOTE(freestyler87 @ Jan 17 2013, 01:20 PM)
bro,
i have a same thinking with u , but when u really facing this, its totally a different case, you cant control due to
2 family come together...
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well, if 2 families can agree to simple wedding, then okay.

if one family insist simple, another family insist traditional, then will haz problems.

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post Jan 17 2013, 05:28 PM

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My mum will scream my future husband's head off if he ask how much dowry she needs.
She hated the fact that I'm going to marry soon.

Asking about dowry price makes her feel like she is selling me off.
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post Jan 17 2013, 06:39 PM

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QUOTE(cc980024 @ Jan 17 2013, 05:01 PM)
TS, is your wife/gf problem for not helping you to negotiate with her mum.
Usually a mother will be understanding if the daughter have a real talk with her regarding your financial ability. ... problem is.. your gf did talk or not? She even thinking to help you pay out instead of negotiating.. that is "stupid".

Last time, I told my mum that my hubby only manage to save $5K and we will give all to her as dowry. For the wedding expenses, he will have to borrow from his father. Indirectly telling my mum that my hubby got no more extra $ to give. My mum understood and due to that, she even help me prepare all the angpao for open door, children, etc. And my parents pay for the girl side wedding dinner themselves.
And the cost of the jewelry my mum given me and my hubby (a ring for the son-in-law) total already cost RM4K++.
But the one of the condition my mum mention is.. the RM5K must be totally his $. I should not sponsor any. If calculate.. my mum given it back to us in other form.

TS, discuss with your gf and do a proper talk to your future MIL. I believe normal mother is not $ sucker. But of coz, if she really is $ sucker.. then forget it. 

Fyi, my wedding was 7yrs ago.. RM5K.
My younger sister wedding 5yrs ago.. RM8K.

Unless the girl parents never request in the first place. They requested RM10K actually is quite normal price.
Thats your choice, chosen chinese girl. Is the custom to pay.. unless they dun 1.
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At 1st my dad ask how much my future MIL want, then MIL said " we make decision " (so call cincai )
so my dad said 5k, and my GF said add 1k more to let her mom buy stuff
and my dad agree...

the day after, my gf told me her mom want 10k... and i shocked ! 1st day said cincai, now want 10k, i called MIL asked
can deduct abit? she told me some one (neighbor or ppl she know) married get 10k... and i said,
ppl son might be CEO , im only an Executive level... cannot compare... and she giggle and said im so young... ( FYI im 25, her daughter 27 )
and i said young doesnt meant cannot do anything..

she said every thing price rise...
end up she said we talk about it after she discuss with her husband... so we end the call...

and my gf told me recently due to her brother need money for the school tuition fees,
and im more angry, where can mix 2 things together... trying to take this chance to cut throat?

end up my gf said " nvm then , u paid 5k, i will pay the rest...( from her own saving ) "

suddenly i feel like i dont understand my gf anymore... is she the one that i knew from the day start?
we been together for 3years, being honest with her in everything....

fyi, i have 30k saving
she have 14k saving

any suggestion how?
i dont want end up we married in future i ban her family from my list...




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post Jan 17 2013, 06:44 PM

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QUOTE(freestyler87 @ Jan 17 2013, 06:39 PM)
At 1st my dad ask how much my future MIL want, then MIL said " we make decision " (so call cincai )
so my dad said 5k, and my GF said add 1k more to let her mom buy stuff
and my dad agree...

the day after, my gf told me her mom want 10k... and i shocked ! 1st day said cincai, now want 10k, i called MIL asked
can deduct abit? she told me some one (neighbor or ppl she know) married get 10k... and i said,
ppl son might be CEO , im only an Executive level... cannot compare... and she giggle and said im so young... ( FYI im 25, her daughter 27 )
and i said young doesnt meant cannot do anything..

she said every thing price rise...
end up she said we talk about it after she discuss with her husband... so we end the call...

and my gf told me recently due to her brother need money for the school tuition fees,
and im more angry, where can mix 2 things together... trying to take this chance to cut throat?

end up my gf said " nvm then , u paid 5k, i will pay the rest...( from her own saving ) "

suddenly i feel like i dont understand my gf anymore... is she the one that i knew from the day start?
we been together for 3years, being honest with her in everything....

fyi, i have 30k saving
she have 14k saving

any suggestion how?
i dont want end up we married in future i ban her family from my list...
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Try to negotiate for installment plan with 0% Interest, and brainwash them more on the benefit/happyness of having a grandchildren as compared to monetary compensation.
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post Jan 17 2013, 06:46 PM

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Is her mother calling the shots in the family? Remember that could be your fiance in the future.

The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.
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post Jan 17 2013, 06:47 PM

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because of this happen,
i feel like the girl i know for 3 years suddenly change... really scary...

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QUOTE(freestyler87 @ Jan 17 2013, 06:39 PM)
At 1st my dad ask how much my future MIL want, then MIL said " we make decision " (so call cincai )
so my dad said 5k, and my GF said add 1k more to let her mom buy stuff
and my dad agree...

the day after, my gf told me her mom want 10k... and i shocked ! 1st day said cincai, now want 10k, i called MIL asked
can deduct abit? she told me some one (neighbor or ppl she know) married get 10k... and i said,
ppl son might be CEO , im only an Executive level... cannot compare... and she giggle and said im so young... ( FYI im 25, her daughter 27 )
and i said young doesnt meant cannot do anything..

she said every thing price rise...
end up she said we talk about it after she discuss with her husband... so we end the call...

and my gf told me recently due to her brother need money for the school tuition fees,
and im more angry, where can mix 2 things together... trying to take this chance to cut throat?

end up my gf said " nvm then , u paid 5k, i will pay the rest...( from her own saving ) "

suddenly i feel like i dont understand my gf anymore... is she the one that i knew from the day start?
we been together for 3years, being honest with her in everything....

fyi, i have 30k saving
she have 14k saving

any suggestion how?
i dont want end up we married in future i ban her family from my list...
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if can nego the dowries then those saving can use on wedding dinner and etc mah ..
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post Jan 17 2013, 06:49 PM

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i dont want because of few year savings, finished in 1 day... and after the wedding the rest of the day is on debts...

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post Jan 17 2013, 06:51 PM

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QUOTE(freestyler87 @ Jan 17 2013, 06:49 PM)
i dont want because of few year savings, finished in 1 day... and after the wedding the rest of the day is on debts...
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well give it a good thought.
i started my merrid life with debts since i no savings.
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QUOTE(freestyler87 @ Jan 17 2013, 06:47 PM)
because of this happen,
i feel like the girl i know for 3 years suddenly change... really scary...
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Trust me, they always change. Learn how to identify the red flags and decide.
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post Jan 18 2013, 09:37 AM

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you guys only marriage , wait till you reach renovation , house etc....

There was this topic in girls club a long time ago, saying whether it's better to be a guy or girl. The girls said being a guy is better because they don't have to deal with period and pregnancy. LOL. They obviously never thought further of the financial responsibility they need to hold if they were a guy. And they don't realise this financial responsibilty can have inflation. The amount of work now to own a house, pay for the car, pay for the gf lifestyle, marriage etc is going to be way higher than it was 20 years ago.


As for TS, this is a good time to know your in laws character. It's going to be harder to buy a house and all now compared to last time so if your in laws are so calculative, you have to ask yourself if your wife is going to be the same next time. If your in laws are like that but your wife is not, that is still ok, but if both your in laws and wife is like that, well the blame is on you for choosing such a wife.




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post Jan 18 2013, 09:38 AM

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Play Deal or No Deal with your future mother in law.
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post Jan 18 2013, 09:47 AM

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QUOTE(cc980024 @ Jan 17 2013, 05:01 PM)
TS, is your wife/gf problem for not helping you to negotiate with her mum.
Usually a mother will be understanding if the daughter have a real talk with her regarding your financial ability. ... problem is.. your gf did talk or not? She even thinking to help you pay out instead of negotiating.. that is "stupid".

Last time, I told my mum that my hubby only manage to save $5K and we will give all to her as dowry. For the wedding expenses, he will have to borrow from his father. Indirectly telling my mum that my hubby got no more extra $ to give. My mum understood and due to that, she even help me prepare all the angpao for open door, children, etc. And my parents pay for the girl side wedding dinner themselves.
And the cost of the jewelry my mum given me and my hubby (a ring for the son-in-law) total already cost RM4K++.
But the one of the condition my mum mention is.. the RM5K must be totally his $. I should not sponsor any. If calculate.. my mum given it back to us in other form.

TS, discuss with your gf and do a proper talk to your future MIL. I believe normal mother is not $ sucker. But of coz, if she really is $ sucker.. then forget it. 

Fyi, my wedding was 7yrs ago.. RM5K.
My younger sister wedding 5yrs ago.. RM8K.

Unless the girl parents never request in the first place. They requested RM10K actually is quite normal price.
Thats your choice, chosen chinese girl. Is the custom to pay.. unless they dun 1.
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"The custom to pay"
But I don't see women following the old "3 obedience and 4 virtues" thing eh?
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post Jan 18 2013, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(freestyler87 @ Jan 17 2013, 06:39 PM)
At 1st my dad ask how much my future MIL want, then MIL said " we make decision " (so call cincai )

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lessons, when opposite party say "cincai" quickly made up a figure and start wrote the cheque rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(Zephyr_Mage @ Jan 18 2013, 09:47 AM)
"The custom to pay"
But I don't see women following the old "3 obedience and 4 virtues" thing eh?
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Yes, tat is the thing that pulling everyone's leg.. but you guys can still decide not to marry them. Decision is still in your hand.
Is good if the gf standby you to fight off or nego the dowry part.. if she is those kind who sided her parents more than future husband, so either leave her or take it. Is still the man's call.
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QUOTE(cc980024 @ Jan 18 2013, 10:03 AM)
Yes, tat is the thing that pulling everyone's leg.. but you guys can still decide not to marry them. Decision is still in your hand.
Is good if the gf standby you to fight off or nego the dowry part.. if she is those kind who sided her parents more than future husband, so either leave her or take it. Is still the man's call.
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people take 20+ years to raise their daughter, for sure have to have geh. of course the price must be reasonable la.
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QUOTE(cc980024 @ Jan 18 2013, 10:03 AM)
Yes, tat is the thing that pulling everyone's leg.. but you guys can still decide not to marry them. Decision is still in your hand.
Is good if the gf standby you to fight off or nego the dowry part.. if she is those kind who sided her parents more than future husband, so either leave her or take it. Is still the man's call.
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My point is, it's all about the face.
If it's all about the custom, why even the need to set a high price?

QUOTE(7chai @ Jan 18 2013, 10:05 AM)
people take 20+ years to raise their daughter, for sure have to have geh. of course the price must be reasonable la.
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Raising a son is free?
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post Jan 18 2013, 10:14 AM

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TS, from what you explained of the sudden change of your 5K offer becoming 10K request. Is kinda irritating.
I agreed with the rest here, your gf parents is putting their family cost on you, that is certainly wrong.
You should discuss with your gf to make the situation right with her family.

Your gf can still contribute 5K, but not as part of the dowry. Dowry is the wedding related expenses that you give her parents.. so it will stil be 5K. As for the brother's tuition fee that they may intend to earn from there.. your gf can sponsor her 5K to the brothers. Tell her to discuss with her mum.. using her daughter mother talk.

If this is still not agreeable, I suggest you to postpone the wedding plan to another 1 year. Telling them you need to save another 5K. Although you have 30K now but that is for buying stuff to building the new family (furnitures, wedding pics, etc.).

Besides that, 25yrs old is still young for a guy to get married. Although your gf already 27yrs old, but that does not seem old yet. Both of you can wait another 3yrs at least. Why tied yourself up so fast?
3yrs down the road, probably lesser burden from her family and they may get less demanding.

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