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usucx
post Nov 8 2013, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(lowkl @ Nov 8 2013, 12:40 PM)
To get the version number, you can try this:
- with the car completely off, depress the OK button on the Information Display control (right side of the steering wheel) then while depressed, press the START button (with or without depressing the brake). This will enter the Self-Diagnostic mode.

- use the up and/or down arrow keys on the Information Display control to navigate the various info & test screens, until you see 'NVM EEPROM' and a number below; that should be the software version number.
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post Nov 8 2013, 03:00 PM

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QUOTE(cOMMANDER pRASNTH @ Nov 8 2013, 02:14 PM)
That's good news indeed - I take Trio Mantap has already been given the latest transmission calibration update that everyone's been waiting for. I was there 2 saturdays ago and spoke to Lau - he mentioned the update (stable) wasn't available yet back then.

Just FYI

http://www.fordservicecontent.com/Ford_Con...tsb13-09-04.htm
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so you had yours applied with the new update and asked them to check for possible leakage?
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post Nov 8 2013, 05:33 PM

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will there be a new facelift for Fofo coming soon or I should buy it now?
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post Nov 8 2013, 06:10 PM

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QUOTE(hihihehe @ Nov 8 2013, 05:33 PM)
will there be a new facelift for Fofo coming soon or I should buy it now?
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Expected facelift would be in '15 ...
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post Nov 8 2013, 10:21 PM

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QUOTE(lowkl @ Nov 6 2013, 03:57 PM)
Ummm... actually, from this forum & the Facebook group of Focus Mk3 users, there are very few instances whereby owners have such unbearable problems with the transmission system to the point of being forced to go back to the SC repeatedly.

Yes, the common "complaint" is the juddering in certain conditions and the grinding sound in certain other conditions. However, these are really characteristics that do not really impair the overall driving experience to the point that anyone really curses and swears never to look at another Ford again. In fact the juddering can be thought of as coming from driving habits based on all the years of driving jap cars. You might as well be complaining about how a manual car judders when you release the clutch too early/too fast.

There was some progress on a fix for this, but the last firmware update got screwed up, so the advice is not to try an upgrade until the new version ships in.

There are other problems which are REALLY of concern, for me most notably the higher occurrence of battery failure which is not good for such a new car. But since this is covered by the warranty AND by sheer luck it hasn't happened to me (selfish I know), I'm not going to let it impair my exhilarating experience so far of driving a Focus Mk3.

NB: I went to check out the Honda CRV yesterday.... OMG the trim quality is so poor compared to the Focus! I know this is not comparing like with like, but seriously for a RM150K car, this is unforgivable.
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But of course....have u seen the quality of the CRZ and the new CIVIC too? Unexpectedly bad.....part of the reason why I have the Focus now
usucx
post Nov 9 2013, 08:25 PM

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QUOTE(SP|D3RMaN @ Nov 7 2013, 05:19 PM)
Bro.
Keep us updated to it.
Thanks.
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Guys,
After the software upgrade, no more juddering from the car. Somehow the car increase the acceleration pace during low gear. Just a light pedal press from idle to moving you will feel the difference. Also a red light stripe is turned on near the sunglasses compartment during night time.
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post Nov 10 2013, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(usucx @ Nov 9 2013, 08:25 PM)
Guys,
After the software upgrade, no more juddering from the car. Somehow the car increase the acceleration pace during low gear. Just a light pedal press from idle to moving you will feel the difference. Also a red light stripe is turned on near the sunglasses compartment during night time.
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Good news! rclxms.gif But how's fuel consumption? Anybody else already went for the upgrade?
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post Nov 10 2013, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(usucx @ Nov 9 2013, 08:25 PM)
Guys,
After the software upgrade, no more juddering from the car. Somehow the car increase the acceleration pace during low gear. Just a light pedal press from idle to moving you will feel the difference. Also a red light stripe is turned on near the sunglasses compartment during night time.
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May I check with you, what is the software version of your ride as of now?
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post Nov 10 2013, 03:49 PM

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QUOTE(lowkl @ Nov 8 2013, 12:40 PM)
To get the version number, you can try this:
- with the car completely off, depress the OK button on the Information Display control (right side of the steering wheel) then while depressed, press the START button (with or without depressing the brake). This will enter the Self-Diagnostic mode.

- use the up and/or down arrow keys on the Information Display control to navigate the various info & test screens, until you see 'NVM EEPROM' and a number below; that should be the software version number.
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Tried already, but could not get into diagnostics mode after pressing OK right buttom and START button simultaneously.... am i doing it wrong?

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post Nov 10 2013, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(usucx @ Nov 10 2013, 03:49 PM)
Tried already, but could not get into diagnostics mode after pressing OK right buttom and START button simultaneously.... am i doing it wrong?
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Don't step on brake pedal when pressing steering right ok button and start button simultaneously. Let's free your both legs.
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post Nov 10 2013, 08:16 PM

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I notice from the thread here that some owners are experiencing judder with the transmission at >10,000km mileage. Is the judder more serious than when the vehicle is at 2,000km to say 5,000km mileage? Reason I asked this question is the juddering in my vehicle has reduced considerably to the point that it can be considered a non-issue. The mileage is currently at 2,300km.

For those who experience judder in the transmission, is the vehicle in D or S? I notice that the vehicle judder or rather jerk is more prominent in S than in D. In D the changes in gear under normal acceleration are quite smooth. Only in hard acceleration the shudder/jerk is stronger.

I recently had a bit of time shifting between D and S on the highways. With Sports mode, I find instant power delivery in mid-speed acceleration is terrific. However, the time taken to reach higher speeds appear to be longer than in D. In normal Drive(D), the accceleration to top speed seems to be more effortless. The needle on the speedometer just keeps going and going when the pedal is depressed whereas in Sports mode the acceleration from mid to top speed appears to be more restrained.

In summary, in my limited experience, I think Sports mode is only useful in low to mid-speed acceleration, and if one wants to reach a higher speed of say 170km/h or 180km/h it is more appropriate to leave the vehicle in D. Sports mode is useful when there is need to overtake a vehicle at speeds of say 70km/h or 80km/h.
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post Nov 11 2013, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Nov 10 2013, 08:16 PM)
I notice from the thread here that some owners are experiencing judder with the transmission at >10,000km mileage. Is the judder more serious than when the vehicle is at 2,000km to say 5,000km mileage? Reason I asked this question is the juddering in my vehicle has reduced considerably to the point that it can be considered a non-issue. The mileage is currently at 2,300km.

For those who experience judder in the transmission, is the vehicle in D or S? I notice that the vehicle judder or rather jerk is more prominent in S than in D. In D the changes in gear under normal acceleration are quite smooth. Only in hard acceleration the shudder/jerk is stronger.

I recently had a bit of time shifting between D and S on the highways. With Sports mode, I find instant power delivery in mid-speed acceleration is terrific. However, the time taken to reach higher speeds appear to be longer than in D. In normal Drive(D), the accceleration to top speed seems to be more effortless. The needle on the speedometer just keeps going and going when the pedal is depressed whereas in Sports mode the acceleration from mid to top speed appears to be more restrained.

In summary, in my limited experience, I think Sports mode is only useful in low to mid-speed acceleration, and if one wants to reach a higher speed of say 170km/h or 180km/h it is more appropriate to leave the vehicle in D. Sports mode is useful when there is need to overtake a vehicle at speeds of say 70km/h or 80km/h.
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When is S mode, if you do not use the manual shift buttons on the knob, i noticed, its locked max at 5th gear. even if you speeding above 120 you can see the rpm already above 3k. the moment you press then plus button you can see it moves to 6th gear and your get to drive faster. thats what my observation is. i usually when need a kick i use s mode only up till 110 then i'll move it to D.

about the judder, i'm reaching 8k now. its no longer an issue.. maybe i've adapted the method to prevent it or the transmission gets better as with the mileage.

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post Nov 11 2013, 10:45 AM

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QUOTE(thanish @ Nov 11 2013, 10:03 AM)
When is S mode, if you do not use the manual shift buttons on the knob, i noticed, its locked max at 5th gear. even if you speeding above 120 you can see the rpm already above 3k. the moment you press then plus button you can see it moves to 6th gear and your get to drive faster. thats what my observation is. i usually when need a kick i use s mode only up till 110 then i'll move it to D.

about the judder, i'm reaching 8k now. its no longer an issue.. maybe i've adapted the method to prevent it or the transmission gets better as with the mileage.
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Thanks for the reply. Much appreciated.

Yes, in S mode, it seems like the transmission is locked at certain gears, depending on the speed. I didn't particularly pay attention but when I switched to S mode, the display is showing S4 or S5, can't remember. it's locked at that gear, and even when the pedal is depressed, the transmission won't upshift to a higher gear and the rpms continue to shoot up(without a gear upshift). I did press the + button on the gear lever and only at that instance the transmission upshifts to S6(presumably 6th gear which is the highest gear).

The vehicle does achieve a higher speed when the + button is pressed and the transmission upshifts from 5th gear to 6th(highest gear). After that, I notice the acceleration seems to be more controlled or restrained, as if the vehicle is not very eager to reach higher speed. Perhaps there is a speed limit for S6 in Sports mode? Not too sure. When I noticed the acceleration in S6 (Sports mode) seems to have reached a plateau, in other words the speeds getting stagnant at around 160km/h and not going up much, I switched from S to D and felt that the acceleration at that point was more effortless as the speed gets higher and higher.

Haven't got much opportunity to reconfirm on my observations as a lot of clear road on the highways is required.

As for teh judder, good to hear it's not an issue. Similarly I don't feel any serious issue with the judder anymore as the mileage is above 2,000km. When it was below 1,000km, the seriousnesss in the judder/jerks in low speeds shifting between 1st and 2nd gear does worry me a bit. But now, not anymore. I am little surprised some owners are still complaining on this judder when the vehicle is above 10,000km.
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post Nov 11 2013, 10:53 AM

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Forgot to mention. Personally I feel the +/- manual shifting buttons on the gear lever of the Ford Focus are not very useful or practical, and I understand some criticism on the design of it vs. paddle shifters on the steering wheel. If the controls are paddle shifters on the steering wheel, it would be much more convenient and fun, more practical.

The way I see it, only shifting between S and D are useful. The +/- controls on the gear knob are not very useful, to me. Others may feel differently.
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post Nov 11 2013, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Nov 11 2013, 10:53 AM)
Forgot to mention. Personally I feel the +/- manual shifting buttons on the gear lever of the Ford Focus are not very useful or practical, and I understand some criticism on the design of it vs. paddle shifters on the steering wheel. If the controls are paddle shifters on the steering wheel, it would be much more convenient and fun, more practical.

The way I see it, only shifting between S and D are useful. The +/- controls on the gear knob are not very useful, to me. Others may feel differently.
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agree... i tried multiple times but still could not find a rhythm to it. one factor to this i believe because... the engine is quite until the RPM is really high which then you able to hear the engine rev sound, so its difficult to know if need to press the + button without looking at the screen (where is usually indicate to change to higher gear). Usually when manual you can know by hearing the sound of the engine and its time to shift to higher gear. worst if the stereo is on and can't hear the engine noise at all.
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QUOTE(SportyHandling @ Nov 11 2013, 10:45 AM)
Thanks for the reply. Much appreciated.

Yes, in S mode, it seems like the transmission is locked at certain gears, depending on the speed. I didn't particularly pay attention but when I switched to S mode, the display is showing S4 or S5, can't remember. it's locked at that gear, and even when the pedal is depressed, the transmission won't upshift to a higher gear and the rpms continue to shoot up(without a gear upshift). I did press the + button on the gear lever and only at that instance the transmission upshifts to S6(presumably 6th gear which is the highest gear).

The vehicle does achieve a higher speed when the + button is pressed and the transmission upshifts from 5th gear to 6th(highest gear). After that, I notice the acceleration seems to be more controlled or restrained, as if the vehicle is not very eager to reach higher speed. Perhaps there is a speed limit for S6 in Sports mode? Not too sure. When I noticed the acceleration in S6 (Sports mode) seems to have reached a plateau, in other words the speeds getting stagnant at around 160km/h and not going up much,  I switched from S to D and felt that the acceleration at that point was more effortless as the speed gets higher and higher.

Haven't got much opportunity to reconfirm on my observations as a lot of clear road on the highways is required.

As for teh judder, good to hear it's not an issue. Similarly I don't feel any serious issue with the judder anymore as the mileage is above 2,000km. When it was below 1,000km, the seriousnesss in the judder/jerks in low speeds shifting between 1st and 2nd gear does worry me a bit. But now, not anymore. I am little surprised some owners are still complaining on this judder when the vehicle is above 10,000km.
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that's very useful to know. I haven't tried to reach 160 with S mode. Reaching 120 in S mode, the rev sound, RPM meter indicator and the live oil consumption indicator pushes me to quickly switch to D (hahaha). should try and see.
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going for my 1st service and software upgrade today. Hope i still get back my good mileage.
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QUOTE(thanish @ Nov 11 2013, 11:51 AM)
agree... i tried multiple times but still could not find a rhythm to it. one factor to this i believe because... the engine is quite until the RPM is really high which then you able to hear the engine rev sound, so its difficult to know if need to press the + button without looking at the screen (where is usually indicate to change to higher gear). Usually when manual you can know by hearing the sound of the engine and its time to shift to higher gear. worst if the stereo is on and can't hear the engine noise at all.
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Yes, after I tried a few times, I give up. Maybe others can get used to the manual shifting buttons, but for me, I just can't get a hang of it. Personally I believe both S and D have covered all driving conditions. As a matter of fact, D is good for all driving conditions, S for more power on tap in more demanding conditions such as going up a steep slope up Genting Highlands, or the need to overtake a big truck or bus on small 2 lanes single carriageways eg. road connecting Bidor to Tapah town.

QUOTE(thanish @ Nov 11 2013, 11:56 AM)
that's very useful to know. I haven't tried to reach 160 with S mode. Reaching 120 in S mode, the rev sound, RPM meter indicator and the live oil consumption indicator pushes me to quickly switch to D (hahaha). should try and see.
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Hah, perhaps the speed was lower than 160km/h. At that specific speed, the needle on the speedometer is not going up any higher even though force is exerted on the pedal. Even though the speed goes up, the acceleration is at a slow pace. And the rpms are high. Hence, I believe S mode is only useful for low to mid-end acceleration say from 0 to 120km/h. In order to continue accelerating to higher speeds, we need to switch out from S mode to D.
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Urgh... the wait is killing me.... My FoFo is not ready yet... SA says Puspakom system slow.. Dang...
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Which SA offers the best discount now? Cant think of any other car to get except the FoFo.

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