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Model Kits GUNDAM & MECHA MODELLING THREAD V2, Share infos, tips & modification here

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kct-86
post Jun 2 2006, 01:53 AM

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OK, after reading through dalong and all that now I get it, why MGs are worth it.
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post Jun 2 2006, 02:13 AM

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Woh, first of all, post replies! biggrin.gif

to medicontherun:
QUOTE(medicontherun @ Jun 1 2006, 03:53 PM)
oo thanks.. they are old.. i know... but... thanks anyway:)
btw may i know how much u bought them for?
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I believe I got this one for RM100. Now I remember, the dark blue VF-19 was the Emerald Force version. Bandai also made a 1/144 scale PlaMo of the Fire Valkyrie, FYI. I assume you like collecting Macross stuff? rclxms.gif If there's anything else relevant to this, feel free to PM me biggrin.gif .

to kamel:
QUOTE(whoami123 @ Jun 1 2006, 09:36 AM)
What is a scalp blade ??  blink.gif
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I think kamel is actually refering to the hobby knife, and not the actual scalp blade that surgeons use to.... blade a scalp? LOL sweat.gif .

I bet kamel is real impatient to fix up his PG Wing Zero, so I think I'll give some info on the tools he might need. So far my most basic tools for GunPla building are these modest three:
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from top to bottom: Gundam Marker [GM01-200], side cutters, hobby knife.

For the side cutters, usually any shop that sells hobby products should have some. And about the hobby knife you can get them at any major hardware store (and they might even have suitable side cutters too).
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Two examples of hobby knife to look out for.

to Godevil:
QUOTE(Godevil @ Jun 1 2006, 12:51 PM)
Wat different between MSIA, HCM Pro and Gundam Fix Figuration ??? sweat.gif  unsure.gif  blush.gif
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Umm, buy one each and compare it yourself? tongue.gif Maybe not.

From what I know, the MSiA (Mobile Suit in Action) is a line of action figure-like Gundam collectibles made to specifically cater the Western taste (seems they're not the modeller type... whistling.gif ).

But the HCM Pro and the GFF figures, I'm not too sure how to explain them... sweat.gif

to Dark Lynx:
QUOTE(Dark Lynx @ Jun 1 2006, 04:21 PM)
yes i have noted those baddies quite popular among modellers too
would actually wanna see a series where the baddies actually triumph hehe
gundam seed destiny is the only series with no actual non-gundam unit! zaku till the end lol.  come on, bring out sazabi vII bandai biggrin.gif
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Yes, popular baddie MSs are indeed one of the unique traits of the Gundam models industry. Back when super robot anime was prevalent, the only figures made was the hero robots, since the baddies weren't as significant, being a monster-of-the-week one-time appearance only. But when Mobile Suit Gundam premiered into the mass media, bringing in the 'Realistic Robot' concept along its wake, it revolutionized the toy industry in Japan. With the scale clearly marked, these models can be put together with other similarly scaled military models to create realistic dioramas. This was a very attractive feature to many military model fans. The GunPla MSs demonstrated the imaginative adaptation of development and usage in different combat environments. It also further emphasized the role of MS as weapons (rather than heroes) and encouraged modelers to freely exercise their creativity, thus the realistic mecha concept of GunPla gradually shifted the models away from toys to become display items. Even the baddie robots, which rarely gets released as toys or models, are becoming merchandise, proof that the Gundam anime showcased a sense of equal footing between two opposing sides, sometimes the 'evil' Zeon side actually getting more support than the 'good' Earth Federation, something not usually seen in previous one-sided mecha anime. And this effect is clearly seen in the selection of GunPla as well.

You want to see series' where the bad guys actually make a difference? Welcome to the Universal Century timeline. Want some real iconic baddies? Let's see; Zaku II, Dom, Zugock, Acguy, Gouf, Gelgoog, Zeong, Kaempfer, Gundam Physalis, Gerbera Tetra, Psyco Gundam, Palace Athene, The O, Quebeley, Zaku III, Jagd Doga, Sazabi, Berga Giros, Vigna Ghina, Zollidea, Shokew, Contio, La la la... Come to think of it, almost every single baddie (non-Gundam and otherwise) in the UC timeline can kick arse, and actually have a unique character attributed to it, hence making them real memorable; unlike the usual non-Gundam baddies in SEED, who are more relegated to background fillers and sometimes just as cannon fodder, being usually impersonalized, thus insignificant. And that's my 2 cents. smile.gif

to kct-86:
QUOTE(kct-86 @ Jun 2 2006, 01:53 AM)
OK, after reading through dalong and all that now I get it, why MGs are worth it.
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Yup, the MG line is the cream of affordable GunPla, so aim for your favourite first and work for it! rclxms.gif


Now, back to the hobby. My topmost post that has the pic of my model standing on its box cover raised a fact in my head. Now I ask the question: Do all of you fellow modelers collect/keep/treasure/horde/whatever their PlaMo boxcover/boxart as well? I do. biggrin.gif

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post Jun 2 2006, 02:25 AM

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Umm, buy one each and compare it yourself?  tongue.gif  Maybe not.
From what I know, the MSiA (Mobile Suit in Action) is a line of action figure-like Gundam collectibles made to specifically cater the Western taste (seems they're not the modeller type...  whistling.gif ).

Ha ha... i can't do tat, tat's why i ask here lo... Any pro here can explain to me?
Wat different between MSIA, HCM Pro and Gundam Fix Figuration ???
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Now, back to the hobby. My topmost post that has the pic of my model standing on its box cover raised a fact in my head. Now I ask the question: Do all of you fellow modelers collect/keep/treasure/horde/whatever their PlaMo boxcover/boxart as well? I do. 

Yup, I do keep. And the cupboard from MGs too....
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post Jun 2 2006, 09:19 AM

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Fodder Soldier:
My basic tool is just a knife cutter & a wire cutter
I don't use the art knife although I have one
maybe I've used to use the normal paper knife cutter
then find it hard to use the art knife rclxub.gif

UC series is more towards realistic world
that's why I like this series more than other series
the Gundam in UC is not like others so powerful until non other MS can fight
furthermore the Gundam design is more mechanical look rclxms.gif

In UC series, no side is totally good or bad
it's war between the space colony & earth
not good vs. baddies
so the "good guy" will switch side sometimes
like in Gundam 0079, many people will take Earth Federation as good guys side
but in Gundam Z, Earth Federation become baddies already

To be honest, I don't like Gundam Seed Destiny at all
the first thing I dislike is because too much of MS, especially Gundam type
the anime is more like a Gundam show off more than emphasize on the story itself
Sunrise should make a stop after Gundam Seed finished
GSD is just like dragging the story & let them earn more money only
No more Gundam Seed sequel !

YenS:
I'm not sure whether it's necessary to put primer before you paint your kits with acryllic paint
acryllic paint can be dillute with water, no need thinner
after you've finished your kit, you can spray a clear coating on it to protect the paint from falling off
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post Jun 2 2006, 09:22 AM

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QUOTE(kct-86 @ Jun 2 2006, 01:53 AM)
OK, after reading through dalong and all that now I get it, why MGs are worth it.
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MG is suitable for lazy people like me who don't paint their kits biggrin.gif
just snap fit & draw some outline on the kit already can make it look nice

In my opinion, lower grade kits are more suitable for pro
it's because you need to modify / paint the kit to make it look nice
MG is just need more cutting on the parts
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post Jun 2 2006, 01:10 PM

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QUOTE(whoami123 @ Jun 2 2006, 10:22 AM)
MG is suitable for lazy people like me who don't paint their kits  biggrin.gif
just snap fit & draw some outline on the kit already can make it look nice

In my opinion, lower grade kits are more suitable for pro
it's because you need to modify / paint the kit to make it look nice
MG is just need more cutting on the parts
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Totally agreed. thumbup.gif
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post Jun 2 2006, 01:43 PM

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And I can't be bothered to paint anything >.> .

Say, for example, if I bought something like the Z+ A1, and wanted to install the space booster from the C1 (which I think fit), how can I get the parts tree containing the said part?

Is there anywhere that have spare parts tree?

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post Jun 2 2006, 02:24 PM

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To Godevil :

MSIA - Like an above poster said, it is basically an action figure. The size is comparable to 1/144 scale HG kit (though Bandai has stated that they are in fact non scale) Older MSIA has very meh-like paint job and poor articulation. Newer MSIA has better paint jobs, more articulation and are more robust. Ideal if you like to play around with your action figures. (If not mistaken I think someone posted pics of Luna's Zaku here)

HCM-Pro - This series are also action figures. The size of these figures are stated at 1/200. These series usually come completely built but they have optional parts (beam rifles and beam sabres are still attached to the trees, so you have to use a cutter to get them out). There is a certain model making element here, nothing to hard for the pro's here. Eg. the stand for the Asshimar needs to be assembled like a HG model. They are also fully coloured and has good articulation as well, though there has been complaints about looseness in the joints, particularly the Force Impulse Gundam. (I think someone posted pics of dancing HCM-Pro's here as well)

GFF - Katoki Hajime produced, these are expensive prebuilt model-like action figures. Their size is roughly comparable to 1/144 size HG kit as well. They feature superior markings and paint-jobs. But it must be noted, GFF are not meant to be played around like regular action figures, if you must play with action figures get the MSIA. Though they have articulation I highly recommend you just display it and not let your 6 year old nephew, son or whoever mess with it. Some GFF sport a 2 in 1 feature eg. you can turn the RX-78-2 (Version KA) into a GM (parts are provided).

You can view these in the HLJ site or go to a toy shop that carries the 3 products to see the difference.

Did I miss anyhing? If anyone wants to add some thing, please do. smile.gif

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post Jun 2 2006, 02:54 PM

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Fodder Soldier:

yup i really really starting to felt impatient now..but i went to many shops to find those things..especially the marker..all sold out..too bad for me... cry.gif cry.gif

or maybe u know anyone that can sell one to me..or you yourself..hehe rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif
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post Jun 2 2006, 05:18 PM

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my opinion gunpla w/o paint sucks regardless of the grades
and a lot of pros choose MG because the size is decent; not too small or too big
it will only be a matter of taste, which grade ppl will choose, not having to do with their skill in plastic models
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may i know where can i find "mr super clear flat" ??

thanks..
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QUOTE(whoami123 @ Jun 2 2006, 11:22 AM)
MG is suitable for lazy people like me who don't paint their kits  biggrin.gif
just snap fit & draw some outline on the kit already can make it look nice

In my opinion, lower grade kits are more suitable for pro
it's because you need to modify / paint the kit to make it look nice
MG is just need more cutting on the parts
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well below is the snap fit with panel lining and few spot painting

http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/8582/img07916ew.jpg

and this is fully painted with weathering as well

http://img79.imageshack.us/img79/8844/53et0077s1uh.jpg

which one looks better @_@

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Cosmic Region #7004 Destiny Gundam:

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post Jun 3 2006, 04:16 PM

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Mid Valley Metrojaya got a Gundam display going on. Some interesting ones were there.
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QUOTE(kct-86 @ Jun 3 2006, 04:16 PM)
Mid Valley Metrojaya got a Gundam display going on. Some interesting ones were there.
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actually is a Seed series competition. Main attraction will be the PG Freedom, really awesome kit.

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QUOTE(kamel @ Jun 2 2006, 02:54 PM)
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or maybe u know anyone that can sell one to me..or you yourself..hehe rolleyes.gif  rolleyes.gif
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U want those gundam marker as showed by Fodder Soldier? I got extra of it. PM me if interested.
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QUOTE(StormV @ Jun 3 2006, 04:31 PM)
actually is a Seed series competition. Main attraction will be the PG Freedom, really awesome kit.
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Yeah, that too.

Destiny Impulse <3.
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QUOTE(whoami123 @ Jun 2 2006, 09:19 AM)
YenS:
I'm not sure whether it's necessary to put primer before you paint your kits with acryllic paint
acryllic paint can be dillute with water, no need thinner
after you've finished your kit, you can spray a clear coating on it to protect the paint from falling off
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erm. from what i understand, primer is supposed to make the surface more "paint-able" like maybe produce a matte-like texture so the acryllic paints can stick to it. necessary or not, i dont know sweat.gif

ooh, so water is fine huh. nice. how much are those bottled Tamiya acryllic paints as featured in dannychoo.com?

and the clear coating.. is it like the Top Coat or Mr Surfacer ones? yeah, that reduces the plasticky feel a lot. and again, where can i find em, what brand and how much?

LOLs so many questions. thx whoami123 for answering my post.

and thx yall in advance.
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Its ok stromV, i just got it today..just came back from kl,sungei wang, got it at this one shop, his got like only 5more...but frustrating,i just try to fine line my force impulse head.n my hand all shaky..its kinda look funny... sad.gif
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QUOTE(kamel @ Jun 3 2006, 08:57 PM)
Its ok stromV, i just got it today..just came back from kl,sungei wang, got it at this one shop, his got like only 5more...but frustrating,i just try to fine line my force impulse head.n my hand all shaky..its kinda look funny... sad.gif
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U can put a little water on the line and rub it off to make a fine line. Or else, u can use tissue paper/cotton bud to 'clean' the mess n make a fine line. Some oso use eraser to rub off the wriggly lines n make it straight n fine. Although, there r many more ways, juz use the 1 that u r more comfortable n produce the best effects. wink.gif

P/S: U dun 1 ur gundam to look like 80yr old Apek wif all wrinkles on its face laugh.gif

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