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Model Kits GUNDAM & MECHA MODELLING THREAD V2, Share infos, tips & modification here

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Dark Lynx
post Jun 4 2006, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(Fodder Soldier @ Jun 2 2006, 02:13 AM)
to Dark Lynx:
Yes, popular baddie MSs are indeed one of the unique traits of the Gundam models industry. Back when super robot anime was prevalent, the only figures made was the hero robots, since the baddies weren't as significant, being a monster-of-the-week one-time appearance only. But when Mobile Suit Gundam premiered into the mass media, bringing in the 'Realistic Robot' concept along its wake, it revolutionized the toy industry in Japan. With the scale clearly marked, these models can be put together with other similarly scaled military models to create realistic dioramas. This was a very attractive feature to many military model fans. The GunPla MSs demonstrated the imaginative adaptation of development and usage in different combat environments. It also further emphasized the role of MS as weapons (rather than heroes) and encouraged modelers to freely exercise their creativity, thus the realistic mecha concept of GunPla gradually shifted the models away from toys to become display items. Even the baddie robots, which rarely gets released as toys or models, are becoming merchandise, proof that the Gundam anime showcased a sense of equal footing between two opposing sides, sometimes  the 'evil' Zeon side actually getting more support than the 'good' Earth Federation, something not usually seen in previous one-sided mecha anime. And this effect is clearly seen in the selection of GunPla as well.

You want to see series' where the bad guys actually make a difference? Welcome to the Universal Century timeline. Want some real iconic baddies? Let's see; Zaku II, Dom, Zugock, Acguy, Gouf, Gelgoog, Zeong, Kaempfer, Gundam Physalis, Gerbera Tetra, Psyco Gundam, Palace Athene, The O, Quebeley, Zaku III, Jagd Doga, Sazabi, Berga Giros, Vigna Ghina, Zollidea, Shokew, Contio, La la la... Come to think of it, almost every single baddie (non-Gundam and otherwise) in the UC timeline can kick arse, and actually have a unique character attributed to it, hence making them real memorable; unlike the usual non-Gundam baddies in SEED, who are more relegated to background fillers and sometimes just as cannon fodder, being usually impersonalized, thus insignificant. And that's my 2 cents.  smile.gif
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yes i've seen most of the HGUC episodes, pretty cool, love 083 the most , weak earth pilot did the impossible, compared to newtypes or coordinators rclxms.gif
actually in gundam seed they tried to do the same, where seed shows the story from earth federation view and in destiny they show it from zaft view. perhaps its a bad thing about cosmic era, they wanted to potray mobile suits that is so tough to withstand beams (not without an I-field those days tongue.gif ) . Also whats more important is the fight battles, in UC battles are more exciting, one false move and we asked "he's dead?" , character utilizing space environments and surroundings as tactical advantage , also ,not so kiddies trash talk ( example ideology talk between amuro and char ) and best of all, protoganist mobile suits that can actually blow up sweat.gif
er is Gerbera Tetra GP04? which episode that appear one? drool.gif
QUOTE(Godevil @ Jun 2 2006, 02:25 AM)
Yup, I do keep. And the cupboard from MGs too....
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yea my gundam is outside, what worries me is the boxes, i kept them in cupboard , i don't wanna make them flat cry.gif
another question (hardcore) , do u all keep the left over runners ? lol
QUOTE(whoami123 @ Jun 2 2006, 09:19 AM)
UC series is more towards realistic world
that's why I like this series more than other series
the Gundam in UC is not like others so powerful until non other MS can fight
furthermore the Gundam design is more mechanical look  rclxms.gif

In UC series, no side is totally good or bad
it's war between the space colony & earth
not good vs. baddies
so the "good guy" will switch side sometimes
like in Gundam 0079, many people will take Earth Federation as good guys side
but in Gundam Z, Earth Federation become baddies already

To be honest, I don't like Gundam Seed Destiny at all
the first thing I dislike is because too much of MS, especially Gundam type
the anime is more like a Gundam show off more than emphasize on the story itself
Sunrise should make a stop after Gundam Seed finished
GSD is just like dragging the story & let them earn more money only
No more Gundam Seed sequel !
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i love bazookas biggrin.gif and they dun have any in C.E yawn.gif
erm one more thing, in gundam seed, i find it too colourful for my eyes. Some say its new anime quality, i mean, you don't need to blast a rainbow coloured beam from freedom icon_question.gif
yes, i think sunrise should concentrate finishing up the gundam evolve series instead, they did a great job on that thumbup.gif
QUOTE(kamel @ Jun 2 2006, 02:54 PM)
yup i really really starting to felt impatient now..but i went to many shops to find those things..especially the marker..all sold out..too bad for me... cry.gif  cry.gif
or maybe u know anyone that can sell one to me..or you yourself..hehe rolleyes.gif  rolleyes.gif
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i felt your pain too, lol
i was waiting for markers for quite long too juz to finish the touch up i've planned
QUOTE(KidsCode @ Jun 3 2006, 04:01 PM)
Cosmic Region #7004 Destiny Gundam:
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hey thats the gundam i saw in your car , nice icon_rolleyes.gif
QUOTE(kingkong81 @ Jun 3 2006, 10:02 PM)
U can put a little water on the line and rub it off to make a fine line. Or else, u can use tissue paper/cotton bud to 'clean' the mess n make a fine line. Some oso use eraser to rub off the wriggly lines n make it straight n fine. Although, there r many more ways, juz use the 1 that u r more comfortable n produce the best effects.  wink.gif
P/S: U dun 1 ur gundam to look like 80yr old Apek wif all wrinkles on its face  laugh.gif
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i think for certain parts should line it before snapping it.
yet to try it with water, gotta try laugh.gif
i believe gundam eraser marker also uses water as the medium of removal

juz noticed this is the 1000th reply rclxm9.gif

This post has been edited by Dark Lynx: Jun 4 2006, 12:46 PM
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post Jun 5 2006, 12:39 AM

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Ah, back from short holiday; all refreshed and recharged for another day at LYN forums. cool.gif

QUOTE(kamel @ Jun 2 2006, 02:54 PM)
yup i really really starting to felt impatient now..but i went to many shops to find those things..especially the marker..all sold out..too bad for me...
or maybe u know anyone that can sell one to me..or you yourself..hehe
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Oh, most of the shops don't have those kind of tools already? Hmm... anyway, this week I think I'll do another modelhunting excursion to the BB area, and maybe look out for availability of those tools. If I find any, I'll post the info here, 'kay? wink.gif

And there's one thing I'd like to say about my Gundam Marker: Wow. Why? Because this marker performance is just outstanding. I got this one back in early 1998, and after all the panel-lining done on my multiple PlaMos since I got it (not to mention other uses too: CD labeling, book marking and just some plain scribbling, heh) the ink is still going strong. Man, talk about quality durability. You dont' see this kind of product reliability these days, that I'm sure of. I'm loving teh Gundam Marker! thumbup.gif . I always wonder when the ink will finally run out... when it does, I think I'll keep it and won't throw it away, as a sign of respect to its long and faithful service... biggrin.gif

About the lining work, kamel; like kingkong81 said, just don't rush and practice doing the panel-linings. When I did it the first time, I too got messy results; especially on those small, 1/144 Gundam heads, felt like eating those heads in frustration when I didn't get it right, LOL. But soon you'll be able to master your hand movements. Just remember: don't do rush jobs. After all, this hobby teaches us the value of concentration and patience in doing our work. rclxms.gif

QUOTE(Dark Lynx @ Jun 4 2006, 12:26 PM)
perhaps its a bad thing about cosmic era, they wanted to potray mobile suits that is so tough to withstand beams (not without an I-field those days  tongue.gif )  . Also whats more important is the fight battles, in UC battles are more exciting, one false move and we asked "he's dead?" , character utilizing space environments and surroundings as tactical advantage , also ,not so kiddies trash talk ( example ideology talk between amuro and char ) and best of all, protoganist mobile suits that can actually blow up 
er is Gerbera Tetra GP04? which episode that appear one?

yea my gundam is outside, what worries me is the boxes, i kept them in cupboard , i don't wanna make them flat
another question (hardcore) , do u all keep the left over runners ? lol

erm one more thing, in gundam seed, i find it too colourful for my eyes. Some say its new anime quality,  i mean, you don't need to blast a rainbow coloured beam from freedom  icon_question.gif

juz noticed this is the 1000th reply  rclxm9.gif
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Yep, in the UC universe, protagonists' MSs actually get damaged! icon_idea.gif Unlike the always-pristine, stainless steel-grade aimbot that are SEED Gundams. All that laser spam battles, and not a single dent acquired! Unbelievable... whistling.gif . In the UC universe, you can actually see battered, clunky and semi-functioning realisticly-damaged MSs, as seen in 08th MS Team and 0083. That what makes modeling UC MSs so much fun. All that battle damage and weathering. I don't think I've ever seen a weathered Gundam from SEED, it just won't seem right... tongue.gif that's why like whoami123 said, hope Bandai'll make more UC PlaMo as well. UC allows moar creative modeling 'freedom' (LOL at the irony...)

And are you refering to the GP04G Gundam Gerbera? That particular Gundam can be considered an MSV, cause the 0083 anime only showcased up to the GP03S Gundam Stamen. The Gerbera I meant is the red AGX-04 Gerbera Tetra piloted by the awesome Cima Garahau in the last episode of 0083. The Gerbera Tetra is actually the Zeon-styled rebuilt of the abandoned GP04G prototype. nod.gif

Well, I can't keep all my boxcovers as is; I have to open it flat, cause if I don't, my room might look like Litt Tak/DHL warehouse... ohmy.gif . But the plastic runners? Nah, I try to get rid of those (unless it can be used as extra material for some conversion/scratchbuild work), although if I could melt them all down into molds, I could definitely get a lot of extra GunPla, LOL...

And about the flashy rampant colours of SEED MSs? Well, that is pretty much expected for a popular GunPla product line. When the original Gundam first aired, the colouration of the MSs can already be considered a tad bit too colourful for the 'realistic robot' concept. After all, the MS designs have to complement the sales of Gundam models as well, thus the toy-like attractive colours. Not to mention it is also a homage to its predecessor superrobot-era styling of flashy colouration. If it wasn't for the toyline, Tomino-sama would probably use standard military camouflage colours for the MSs, but a range of dust-coloured Gundams models would be pretty boring-looking, right? None of that trademark white-blue-red-yellow.... tongue.gif

And finally we have entered the four-digit realm of posts for this thread! A 1000+ posts! That just shows how strong the presence of all mecha modelers here in LYN thumbup.gif . So keep it up, all!


To Duke Beard, thanks for the better explanation for Godevil's question about the MSiA, HCM Pro and GFF. We too learnt from it. biggrin.gif

To dj898, about the comparison between just assembling and panel-lining, and full airbrush finishing, no doubt the airbrushed treatment is superior. It just all depends on the amount of skills and tools one has at his/her disposal. If possible, go ahead and do the full finishing on the PlaMos; if not, I think properly-done assembly and then just careful panel-lining (and maybe some extra Gundam Markers for extra colours) will do just fine. biggrin.gif And your RX-78-2 seems like it's trying to aggravate your Zeong, LOL. Makes me wanna post funny pictures, too.

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post Jun 5 2006, 07:32 AM

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That Gundam OYW was more of my laziness than anything else. After built several OYW I was at the point didn't want to build another one so when I was asked I tried the minimal work required to get that boy done. tongue.gif

And I totally agree with you on UC MS being more realistic(?). I've done MG Dom with battle damage but like you said it won't look right on Seed MS line. biggrin.gif Hell I've also done MG Zaku II with most of its lef destroyed with few inner frame twisted for diorama and it was a lot of fun trying thing you picked from military modelling guys...

and talk of funny pic here's something I've done in few minutes... he he

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post Jun 5 2006, 09:44 AM

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dj898:
Of course if you want to make your kits looks nice, then you've to paint it doh.gif
what I mean is MG kits' color are well seperated
so although you don't paint it
it still looks not so bad & can be display out

YenS:
Tamiya's one is around RM 7 for the small bottle
Big one bout RM 14
can't remember the exact price
you can get those in ToyCity

If you want to get spray can for coating
you can get the Gunze Sangyo Topcoat series
Gloss - http://www.hlj.com/product/GNZB-501
Semi-gloss - http://www.hlj.com/product/GNZB-502
Flat - http://www.hlj.com/product/GNZB-503
as far as I know Mid Valley's Miniature Hobby, Ampang City Square Hobby HQ got it

Primer is use on kits that made by material other than plastic (like metal, resin)
you'll use it on Gundam plastic kits?
If you want to get those that can cover the base color of your kits
then you should get Mr. Surfacer (also from Gunze Sangyo)
which is a liquid type putty to spray on your kits before put any paints
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Yes but at least do put the top coat to kill off that shine which makes the kit more like toy than model... biggrin.gif
That MG Zeong I posted has not been painted at all apart from the shadow and top coat... If you look at the MG Zeong on dalong.net than you will see the kind of shine I'm talking about.

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QUOTE(dj898 @ Jun 5 2006, 09:57 AM)
Yes but at least do put the top coat to kill off that shine which makes the kit more like toy than model... biggrin.gif
That MG Zeong I posted has not been painted at all apart from the shadow and top coat... If you look at the MG Zeong on dalong.net than you will see the kind of shine I'm talking about.
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Yeah, I agree that should put coating on it biggrin.gif
I didn't put any on my kits because I planned to paint my kits in the future
after I got enough of money to get air-brush & compressor
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post Jun 5 2006, 10:15 AM

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well you can alway sand and reprime for painting tongue.gif
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QUOTE(dj898 @ Jun 5 2006, 10:15 AM)
well you can alway sand and reprime for painting tongue.gif
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That would be double work lah
I prefer to let it unpaint & paint later
since I don't show my kits to anyone except my friends who came to my house
my family members all don't know how to appretiate it
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A comparision between the 2 upcoming mechas...

The MG F91 is horrible, the more I look at it, the more I detest it. The worst, and I repeat, THE WORST problem is the elbow joint. OMG why the heck did BANDAI use the old joint that's so outdated? The Rafflesia stand is indeed unique, but somehow it reminds me of some mutated flower with evil fangs sprouting from the ground, trying to eat the F91 doh.gif
http://www6.ocn.ne.jp/~midori-b/newpic/nes-g0345.htm

However the Amatu is real sweet... Somehow I won't really buy it considering that the gigantic heavy backpack is going to cause problems when posing the kit.
http://www6.ocn.ne.jp/~midori-b/newpic/nes-g0348.htm

Spore GSD Competition: http://gunplainitiative.fotopic.net/c979850.html

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IMO, it doesn't look all that bad. Me thinks the elbow joint is deliberately designed that way. If you look closely at the left arm, the beam shield is huge! The top of the beam shield looks like its colliding with the shoulder amour and would interfer with the "Mini-Wings" of the shoulder armour.

So to overcome this problem, the designers at Bandai probably thought that a rotating elbow joint will allow greater poseability.

Though I do agree with you that the Rafflesia Stand is awful!
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post Jun 5 2006, 02:53 PM

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Applying MG standard in such a small size MS is not an easy task
F91 will be bout the size of common 1/144 scale Gundam
we can't place the final conclusion on the kit itself right now
let's wait till the kit come out & someone can give a review on the kit (like dalong.net)
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post Jun 5 2006, 06:40 PM

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hey, has anyone heard of the special Wing Gundam MG kit? Consists of 2000 parts to fix and is about RM200-300...I heard my friend talk about it blink.gif
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I think the elbow joints are designed to be like tat is it?

I din watch F91 series so i'm not sure, it's an old design after all.....

anyone watched the anime can tell is it??
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post Jun 5 2006, 07:53 PM

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QUOTE(Godevil @ Jun 5 2006, 06:44 PM)
I think the elbow joints are designed to be like tat is it?

I din watch F91 series so i'm not sure, it's an old design after all.....

anyone watched the anime can tell is it??
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no its not about the design old or not, im not sure what others said about old design or new what so ever, but in the anime the elbow doesn't segment to 3 parts like that. Its a small MS with 2 segment on the whole hand only. the lower segment would cover up to the upper segment above the elbow, covering the middle inner frame which we now see it as the '3rd' segment, real ugly..sorry no pic for reference

also the yellow pointers on the head, the middle ones are suppose to be point at roughly 45-60 degree, not arching top and so damn long

another bigger problem would be the body, its not fully linking with the shoulder due to its size, abit lacking, smaller than anime

and i believe the shoulders size is ok but its looking abit higher but its fine

lastly, the part under the belly (lol gundam's belly) isn't fully detailed, they probably miss out some..muhaha so its our job to add in the details

but regardless, guess i'll get this kit, probably the reason why its quite cheap and even comes with a weird stand , maybe some modification will make it cool rclxms.gif
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WOAH~!!!
Astray Gold Frame Amatsu
Velde Buster Gundam

Astray Gold Frame came out in 1/100 size and not 1/144 HG...weird...
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post Jun 6 2006, 01:04 AM

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Just saw that the MG freedom status in HLJ.com is DISCONTINUED.

Is it mean that stop producing oledi?
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QUOTE(Godevil @ Jun 6 2006, 01:04 AM)
Just saw that the MG freedom status in HLJ.com is DISCONTINUED.

Is it mean that stop producing oledi?
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hahaha...not in a million year, dude.

think it mean, bandai won't restock Freedom anytime sooner.
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QUOTE(Godevil @ Jun 6 2006, 01:04 AM)
Just saw that the MG freedom status in HLJ.com is DISCONTINUED.
Is it mean that stop producing oledi?
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I think it just means that HLJ has stopped taking in orders for MG Freedom...I hope tongue.gif
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post Jun 6 2006, 09:17 AM

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I wonder which MG is the most popular one & at the top of the sales biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(whoami123 @ Jun 6 2006, 09:17 AM)
I wonder which MG is the most popular one & at the top of the sales biggrin.gif
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Probably Zeta or Wing...coz they came out long ago.

Anyway...did anyone notice that Velde Buster looks a bit like Batman? laugh.gif

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