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Frenly
post Jan 15 2010, 07:24 AM

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Anyone here working as an IT engineer in Oil and Gas - Techip? How the working enviroment over there ?

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post Jan 15 2010, 08:34 AM

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QUOTE(neo_sharky @ Jan 14 2010, 09:20 PM)
err. i dont know bout that. luckily i asked first. haha
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Remember. They are doing u a favor, not the other way around. U simply need fulfill the uni's quota and get it done with.
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post Jan 15 2010, 05:43 PM

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QUOTE(LeechFever @ Jan 15 2010, 08:34 AM)
Remember. They are doing u a favor, not the other way around. U simply need fulfill the uni's quota and get it done with.
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Only Malaysia's company is thinking that way. In Australia, they'll give you the rate of the real engineers during your intern. Anyway, different country mah!:D
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post Jan 15 2010, 06:37 PM

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QUOTE(thugs @ Jan 15 2010, 05:43 PM)
Only Malaysia's company is thinking that way. In Australia, they'll give you the rate of the real engineers during your intern. Anyway, different country mah!:D
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Regardless, I still stand by my point that they are doing you a favor since let's just say you practically have zero experience and it is a risk to let a newbie to handle a project. If what you say about in Australia that they pay you more, then my opinion still justified since they are paying you the same amount of money as the permanent workers who may or may not like the idea they getting the same amount of pay as an intern despite them being more senior and experience. Also if such company exist that they are willing to pay you the same as their staff, then you must be at least capable with good uni results to handle 'real' engineering job in their company or else you are practically just leeching them off the company's money. I have a friend once in one country just like Aus and paid like them but got fired for being counter productive due to inexperience. They may pay you more but they expect the same amount being contributed back. If given the choice that their labour law is just like ours, I believe they will do exactly the same like Malaysia. Proof? There are Australian company branches here in Malaysia, how much do they pay for interns?
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post Jan 15 2010, 06:48 PM

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QUOTE(LeechFever @ Jan 15 2010, 06:37 PM)
Regardless, I still stand by my point that they are doing you a favor since let's just say you practically have zero experience and it is a risk to let a newbie to handle a project. If what you say about in Australia that they pay you more, then my opinion still justified since they are paying you the same amount of money as the permanent workers who may or may not like the idea they getting the same amount of pay as an intern despite them being more senior and experience. Also if such company exist that they are willing to pay you the same as their staff, then you must be at least capable with good uni results to handle 'real' engineering job in their company or else you are practically just leeching them off the company's money. I have a friend once in one country just like Aus and paid like them but got fired for being counter productive due to inexperience. They may pay you more but they expect the same amount being contributed back. If given the choice that their labour law is just like ours, I believe they will do exactly the same like Malaysia. Proof? There are Australian company branches here in Malaysia, how much do they pay for interns?
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well, u got the point over there... the fact that the company are doing us a favoura cant be denied... the average pay for trainee is from payless-RM500... pls be aware that rm500 is on the high side already... but, i just dun understand why, that 2 of my friends (1 of them is my coursemate) manage to undergoes intern with the pay of RM1000 and RM 2000!!! this is real, and i just dun understand why, and both of it is not under big company u see...


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post Jan 15 2010, 06:53 PM

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QUOTE(nova_freak @ Jan 15 2010, 06:48 PM)
well, u got the point over there... the fact that the company are doing us a favoura cant be denied... the average pay for trainee is from payless-RM500... pls be aware that rm500 is on the high side already... but, i just dun understand why, that 2 of my friends (1 of them is my coursemate) manage to undergoes intern with the pay of RM1000 and RM 2000!!! this is real, and i just dun understand why, and both of it is not under big company u see...
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I rather go with a good company (prolly big) tht will look good on my resume and earn nothing during my intern (not really possible if its reknown but for the conversation) and then able to clinch the Job with great salary and perks due to my resume THAN small company nobody cares about or knows and get Rm 2k/mth for 6 mths and then not get the recognition to clinch that Job.
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post Jan 15 2010, 07:10 PM

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QUOTE(kaiserwulf @ Jan 15 2010, 06:53 PM)
I rather go with a good company (prolly big) tht will look good on my resume and earn nothing during my intern (not really possible if its reknown but for the conversation) and then able to clinch the Job with great salary and perks due to my resume THAN small company nobody cares about or knows and get Rm 2k/mth for 6 mths and then not get the recognition to clinch that Job.
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seems like u have the thinking of when u had intern at that certain company, u will have a very big chance of returning to it to work... but, it is a wrong concenpt which everyone believe in... working and intern is 2 different things and most of the big companies dun care a d*** on where u intern... wat counts is how u perform during the inverview, and not where u intern... and for a great salary, it will also depends on ur position, job performance and so on, and not where u intern again... wink.gif
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post Jan 15 2010, 07:12 PM

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Not i dint say that. You could have worked for Big Company A that is famous for its work exposure for undergrads. Then with that in your resume, you got yourself a job with Big Company 1. smile.gif Some of the forumers here can vouch that I most probably earn more than you when I started as freshie wink.gif I interned for next to nothing but in a well known organization in Europe. So I am speaking from experience.

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post Jan 15 2010, 07:38 PM

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QUOTE(nova_freak @ Jan 15 2010, 06:48 PM)
well, u got the point over there... the fact that the company are doing us a favoura cant be denied... the average pay for trainee is from payless-RM500... pls be aware that rm500 is on the high side already... but, i just dun understand why, that 2 of my friends (1 of them is my coursemate) manage to undergoes intern with the pay of RM1000 and RM 2000!!! this is real, and i just dun understand why, and both of it is not under big company u see...
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There are a lot of reasons. Labor law perhaps? Or perhaps other companies with the same field pay their intern that amount of money....so it would look quite bad for their image if they pay the interns lower as it will be interpreted as abusing them in Australia. There's also the possibility that since engineers are paid quite high there, they have to limit the amount of staffs hired unlike Malaysia where labor are cheap so hiring more won't be much of a problem. This ultimately causes the Australian company to choose their candidates wisely so that they can utilize the labor cost. Therefore internships is normally seen as a way to scout for talents and advertise the company to the prospective graduates/experienced applicants. These 'ah moh' tends to scout better talents than simply waiting for one to come to their door steps. Just like how professional football couch scout for talents unlike here in Malaysia where local employer tend to be quite lazy to do that, hoping for jobless graduates to come and offer them very low salary. Another reason is simply because the employer wants the interns to work more than the allowances offered which some might have to work overtime without pay and even on weekends.
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post Jan 16 2010, 01:03 PM

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hello everybody~ just have some thing to ask, i am going to graduate soon in april 2010, i m quite interested about oil and gas industry,
question:

1. as civil engineer, what position can i apply in O&G company?
2. is that posible civil engineer work in offshore? what position?
3. any detail about field engineer bcos i realy don,t know how to differentiate...
4. any advice for me as a fresh graduate to join O&G company?

thanks and hope somebody can answer my question~have a nice day~

regards,
Aaron
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post Jan 16 2010, 01:48 PM

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Graduates....... all want to work in O&G but all lazy to Google or use some creative thinking to do research
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post Jan 18 2010, 12:05 AM

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Yes, need to do some research in google... i can't say there's a lot of info but at least some...

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post Jan 18 2010, 12:08 AM

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QUOTE(mia_sara @ Jan 9 2010, 08:12 PM)
i'm a nuclear science student.
do u think there is any opportunity for me to work in oil and gas industry?
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cool...y u wanna join O&G? think there are better fields for you to pursue? if in O&G, u can join as an RSO...radiation safety officer...not sure that fits your major. over qualified....


Added on January 18, 2010, 12:13 amI guess everyone from every major CAN join O&G, just depending on which department. I have seen alot of ppl transferring from one department to another. They figure it's not their thing....not enough money (most fall in this category)....crappy rotation...and a number of reasons.

Just try to get IN and figure out yourself.

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post Jan 18 2010, 02:15 AM

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QUOTE(nova_freak @ Jan 15 2010, 07:10 PM)
seems like u have the thinking of when u had intern at that certain company, u will have a very big chance of returning to it to work... but, it is a wrong concenpt which everyone believe in... working and intern is 2 different things and most of the big companies dun care a d*** on where u intern... wat counts is how u perform during the inverview, and not where u intern... and for a great salary, it will also depends on ur position, job performance and so on, and not where u intern again... wink.gif
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Not true, to some extend. An intern was assigned to me last year. End of intern period, his work was evaluated, bla bla.. and provisionally accepted to become a staff once he graduated, provided that he graduates with min 2nd class upper. Sadly, he didnt make it. Oh yeah, he got paid 1k - 1.5k/mnth allowance throughout the intern period.

But then again, not every co doing the same.
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post Jan 18 2010, 02:16 AM

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QUOTE(thugs @ Jan 18 2010, 12:05 AM)
Yes, need to do some research in google... i can't say there's a lot of info but at least some...
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yes, thanks for your advice, i have do some reserch but quite confusing regarding what i wanna apply, anyway, thanks for your advice~realy appreciate~

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Added on January 18, 2010, 2:20 am
QUOTE(ps3roxor @ Jan 16 2010, 01:48 PM)
Graduates....... all want to work in O&G but all lazy to Google or use some creative thinking to do research
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ps3roxor, i know if i realy want to join this field, have to do something, that what i m doing now~only confusing for what i get for the info online.anyway, thanks for yr advice, realy appreciate~

=)

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post Jan 18 2010, 11:01 AM

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QUOTE(kianhoe6 @ Jan 18 2010, 02:16 AM)
yes, thanks for your advice, i have do some reserch but quite confusing regarding what i wanna apply, anyway, thanks for your advice~realy appreciate~

=)


Added on January 18, 2010, 2:20 am

ps3roxor, i know if i realy want to join this field, have to do something, that what i m doing now~only confusing for what i get for the info online.anyway, thanks for yr advice, realy appreciate~

=)
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try going to company websites, they usually have pages for graduate engineers to read through and job descriptions of field engineers .. try shell, bp, slb ...
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anyone in OnG career working in commercial team under contract? (6 months - 1 year)

Thanks
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post Jan 19 2010, 12:11 AM

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QUOTE(pinkdalmation @ Jan 18 2010, 11:01 AM)
try going to company websites, they usually have pages for graduate engineers  to read through and job descriptions of field engineers .. try shell, bp, slb ...
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thanks for your info~
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post Jan 19 2010, 01:46 PM

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Hello everyone, I'm not sure if i'm posting at the right thread. But what's the environment and salary condition for CAD and Piping Engineers in Oil and Gas Industry?

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