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post Oct 19 2012, 10:58 PM


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Any news on this project? Was told RM600psf, size 1300-2100.

Villamas Sdn Bhd okay or not?


Added on October 20, 2012, 6:44 pmVisited the neighbor, Ara Green today. The place was swamped with people. This place so good?

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post Oct 21 2012, 12:10 AM


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Ara Green one of the best condo to be launched in 2012, in my opinion.

Not too sure about Verde. Too much negative comments about Villamas on their past records.

The place, Ara Damansara good? U kidding me, it's only about 5 mins away from Tropicana & Bdr Utama. Good is an understatement.
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post Oct 21 2012, 02:43 AM


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Villamas got Do high end project?
600 per sq feet wo
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AraGreens close to 900psf. Verde next door around 600psf. BBB?
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QUOTE(bryan_x00 @ Oct 21 2012, 09:19 AM)
AraGreens close to 900psf. Verde next door around 600psf. BBB?
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seriously, if think about villawangsamas in wangsamaju,u will not buy this property.but 600psqft ? hmmm..quite tempting i guess.

called them up,but the SA said its the same developer.. hmm.gif

will launch end of next month.

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post Oct 23 2012, 10:04 AM


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It's Villamas. VILLAMAS.
Talk to Atmosfera owners first to understand the quality of this developer.
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post Oct 23 2012, 10:07 AM


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QUOTE(maryjane9996 @ Oct 23 2012, 09:26 AM)
seriously, if think about villawangsamas in wangsamaju,u will not buy this property.but 600psqft ? hmmm..quite tempting i guess.

called them up,but the SA said its the same developer..  hmm.gif

will launch end of next month.
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It's Villamas. VILLAMAS.
Talk to Atmosfera owners first to understand the quality of this developer.
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They are not the same one, right?
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post Oct 23 2012, 10:09 AM


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This developer bukit the Serdang condos near tpm
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post Oct 23 2012, 10:11 AM


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I believe its the same villamas. at least, related companies. ROC won't allow different companies using similar name.
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post Oct 23 2012, 10:38 AM


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one of the best in terms of what, boss ?
in terms of design ? premium feel ? location ? concept ?
not walking distance to LRT ..
next to a 'river' ...

definitely not pricing .. rclxub.gif

Oasis is still quite dead ..
but Citta mall will have MBO cinema coming up ..

so Verde will be sandwiched between Petronas and Ara Greens ?
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QUOTE(HouseToLive @ Oct 21 2012, 12:10 AM)
Ara Green one of the best condo to be launched in 2012, in my opinion.

Not too sure about Verde. Too much negative comments about Villamas on their past records.

The place, Ara Damansara good? U kidding me, it's only about 5 mins away from Tropicana & Bdr Utama. Good is an understatement.
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seriously, if think about villawangsamas in wangsamaju,u will not buy this property.but 600psqft ? hmmm..quite tempting i guess.

called them up,but the SA said its NOT the same developer..

will launch end of next month.


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post Oct 23 2012, 01:11 PM


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again, becareful becos it s the same villamas that did atmosfera. confirmed on their website. I purchased atmosfera and it s a nightmare. 3 months after vp the most basic things like elevators still giving problems.
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post Oct 23 2012, 01:58 PM


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it is the same loh !

http://star-micro.knorex.asia/static-prope...s_villamas.html

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again, becareful becos it s the same villamas that did atmosfera. confirmed on their website. I purchased atmosfera and it s a nightmare. 3 months after vp the most basic things like elevators still giving problems.
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post Oct 24 2012, 10:31 PM


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how is this project? worth to buy?

after discount is about RM550 psf which is much much lower than aragreens at RM900 psf

ara damansara seems like a good place to invest, and one tesco is coming up soon
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yes, its the same developer that built low cost flat Atmosphere...

but they will not use the Atmosphere contractor for Verde, heard that they will use one of the top contractor for this job... lets wait and see which contractor get it... finger crossed...
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QUOTE(Walaoeh! @ Oct 31 2012, 12:29 PM)
yes, its the same developer that built low cost flat Atmosphere...

but they will not use the Atmosphere contractor for Verde, heard that they will use one of the top contractor for this job... lets wait and see which contractor get it... finger crossed...
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Think it's not just the contractor but also the developer which as the contractor's client is supposed to manage the contractor n QC the quality together with the architect and surveyor appointed... tongue.gif
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QUOTE(CMW123 @ Oct 31 2012, 12:36 PM)
Think it's not just the contractor but also the developer which as the contractor's client is supposed to manage the contractor n QC the quality together with the architect and surveyor appointed...  tongue.gif
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this i totally agree with you... thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(lunchtime @ Oct 21 2012, 10:23 AM)
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QUOTE(888kb24 @ Oct 24 2012, 10:31 PM)
how is this project? worth to buy?

after discount is about RM550 psf which is much much lower than aragreens  at RM900 psf

ara damansara seems like a good place to invest, and one tesco is coming up soon
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Aragreens at RM900 psf is for the 700 sq ft small units third block...

If compared apple to apple Verde 1383 sq ft with Aragreens 1,400 sq ft unit, Aragreen should be around RM700 psf...

So it's RM550 psf vs RM700 psf based on Atmosfera standard vs Putra Perdana standard tongue.gif
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at 400psf also I won't touch Villamas property. blaming the contractor is a sign of irresponsibility.

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I will never buy from this developer.. Good luck to Serin and Zefer buyer.. Never care about quality of their development, all problems... Kindly ask Villamas Apartment owner, that serdang apartment owner and atmosfera owner..

Leaking problem is normal on apartment or condo.. But with Villamas.. It's unbelievable...
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QUOTE(abgkik @ Nov 1 2012, 07:55 PM)
I will never buy from this developer.. Good luck to Serin and Zefer buyer.. Never care about quality of their development, all problems... Kindly ask Villamas Apartment owner, that serdang apartment owner and atmosfera owner..

Leaking problem is normal on apartment or condo.. But with Villamas.. It's unbelievable...
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Second that, horrible developer.
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QUOTE(Soulsareworthless @ Nov 2 2012, 07:51 AM)
Second that, horrible developer.
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Some many people mentioning the same thing, seems like cannot be ignored...
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post Nov 2 2012, 11:09 AM


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QUOTE(CMW123 @ Nov 2 2012, 10:03 AM)
Some many people mentioning the same thing, seems like cannot be ignored...
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but many peoples don't care too biggrin.gif
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Many people's dun care maybe they have no problem with the developer. Outside lots of development have problem also but the people didn't mentioned out so is consider no problem la.
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QUOTE(Darian28 @ Nov 2 2012, 12:18 PM)
Many people's dun care maybe they have no problem with the developer. Outside lots of development have problem also but the people didn't mentioned out so is consider no problem la.
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VERDE @ Ara Damansara, Petaling Jaya,

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Verde @ Ara Damansara offers a hotel-inspired living experience that speaks to nature lovers and those who truly appreciate privacy.

Ara Damansara is becoming a coveted address for those who would like to live or invest in exclusive townships in Petaling Jaya. One key difference that one would notice almost immediately is the generous space, especially the roads. Another plus point is its location; Ara Damansara is one of the last parcels of freehold land in Petaling Jaya. It is located near the Sultan Abdul Aziz Shah Airport road and is in close proximity to the established residential and commercial areas of Tropicana, Damansara, Subang Jaya, Bandar Utama and Kelana Jaya.

The township promotes easy accessibility via the New Klang Valley Expressway (NKVE), Lebuhraya Damansara-Puchong (LDP), New Pantai Expressway (NPE) and Federal Highway, while its rapidly expanding and improving infrastructure will further enhance its value and appeal. The township is still growing and will encompass approximately 4,000 units of various types of property in the next 4 years.

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A Lovely Shade of Green

Serenely tucked within Ara Damansara’s quiet neighbourhood, Verde @ Ara Damansara will speak to nature lovers and those who truly appreciate privacy. The development’s location is arguably subdued, yet well linked to many daily conveniences and indulgences. The word ‘Verde’ translates to ‘green’ in the Spanish, Portuguese, Italian and Romanian language.

This namesake is largely reflected throughout the development’s grounds and in the units. Green initiatives within the units include the proposed installation of a rainwater harvesting system, Smart Home System that encourages a paperless environment, and the usage of low volatile organic compound (VOC) emitting materials such as paint, adhesive and sealants.

Verde @ Ara Damansara will also include biological ponds that feature a range of proposed recreational amenities such as an active aqua life, herb garden and sky garden that are exclusively for its residents. The developer, Villamas, aims to achieve a gold star rating in accordance with the standards of the Green Building Index (GBI) for its environmental considerations.

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Hotel-inspired Living Experience


Verde @ Ara Damansara is built on 4.808 acres of freehold land and is conceptualised as service hotel suites, where the residents can benefit from the amenities and level of luxury expected of a contemporary hotel. The development will also feature a grand lobby and concierge. Emphasis is placed on producing a resort-like ambience, by incorporating environmental-friendly features such as lush tropical landscapes, gardens, water features, biological ponds, pools, cascades and artworks.

Built-up sizes for the units range between 1,383 sq ft and 2,110 sq ft. Inward facing units will overlook the leisure facilities deck, while outward facing units will enjoy the vistas surrounding the plot (river, waterways and green network). The palette of colours and materials chosen is aimed at creating a warm and lavish atmosphere that is parallel to a top-notch hotel.

The 13-storey serviced condominium houses a total of 409 units in 4 blocks. There will be 3 levels of basement car parks (with an estimated 1,050 car park lots for the residents), in addition to attractive amenities such as a nursery, observation deck, glass walled gym overlooking a crystalline infinity pool, reflective pond, half basketball court, yoga space, whirlpool, sky garden and function hall, among others. All these features and amenities are within a gated and guarded development, with a 3-tier security system to ensure a better peace of mind for the residents.

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Verde @ Ara Damansara sales gallery tentatively will be ready for preview by mid of November and completed in January 2016. For details, call (603) 7728 6666 or (6012) 651 2355, or visit www.verde-aradamansara.com.

About the Developer

Villamas is established mid-size property developer with projects dating back to 1995. Since its first foray into property development in 2000, Villamas has experienced an outstanding growth rate that currently having ongoing and future developments exceeding RM1 billion in gross development value.

Previous developments include Villa Park at Seri Kembangan, Villamas Apartment, Atmosfera Condominium at Puchong, and Bukit Kepong Baru. Other current projects include Serin Residency at Cyberjaya and Zefer Hill Residence in Puchong Jaya.
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QUOTE(swisspalm @ Nov 2 2012, 02:19 PM)
VERDE @ Ara Damansara, Petaling Jaya,

iproperty - Verde @ Ara Damansara

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Verde @ Ara Damansara offers a hotel-inspired living experience that speaks to nature lovers and those who truly appreciate privacy.

Ara Damansara is becoming a coveted address for those who would like to live or invest in exclusive townships in Petaling Jaya. One key difference that one would notice almost immediately is the generous space, especially the roads. Another plus point is its location; Ara Damansara is one of the last parcels of freehold land in Petaling Jaya. It is located near the Sultan Abdul Aziz Shah Airport road and is in close proximity to the established residential and commercial areas of Tropicana, Damansara, Subang Jaya, Bandar Utama and Kelana Jaya.

The township promotes easy accessibility via the New Klang Valley Expressway (NKVE), Lebuhraya Damansara-Puchong (LDP), New Pantai Expressway (NPE) and Federal Highway, while its rapidly expanding and improving infrastructure will further enhance its value and appeal. The township is still growing and will encompass approximately 4,000 units of various types of property in the next 4 years.

user posted image

A Lovely Shade of Green

Serenely tucked within Ara Damansara’s quiet neighbourhood, Verde @ Ara Damansara will speak to nature lovers and those who truly appreciate privacy. The development’s location is arguably subdued, yet well linked to many daily conveniences and indulgences. The word ‘Verde’ translates to ‘green’ in the Spanish, Portuguese, Italian and Romanian language.

This namesake is largely reflected throughout the development’s grounds and in the units. Green initiatives within the units include the proposed installation of a rainwater harvesting system, Smart Home System that encourages a paperless environment, and the usage of low volatile organic compound (VOC) emitting materials such as paint, adhesive and sealants.

Verde @ Ara Damansara will also include biological ponds that feature a range of proposed recreational amenities such as an active aqua life, herb garden and sky garden that are exclusively for its residents. The developer, Villamas, aims to achieve a gold star rating in accordance with the standards of the Green Building Index (GBI) for its environmental considerations.

user posted image

Hotel-inspired Living Experience


Verde @ Ara Damansara is built on 4.808 acres of freehold land and is conceptualised as service hotel suites, where the residents can benefit from the amenities and level of luxury expected of a contemporary hotel. The development will also feature a grand lobby and concierge. Emphasis is placed on producing a resort-like ambience, by incorporating environmental-friendly features such as lush tropical landscapes, gardens, water features, biological ponds, pools, cascades and artworks.

Built-up sizes for the units range between 1,383 sq ft and 2,110 sq ft. Inward facing units will overlook the leisure facilities deck, while outward facing units will enjoy the vistas surrounding the plot (river, waterways and green network). The palette of colours and materials chosen is aimed at creating a warm and lavish atmosphere that is parallel to a top-notch hotel.

The 13-storey serviced condominium houses a total of 409 units in 4 blocks. There will be 3 levels of basement car parks (with an estimated 1,050 car park lots for the residents), in addition to attractive amenities such as a nursery, observation deck, glass walled gym overlooking a crystalline infinity pool, reflective pond, half basketball court, yoga space, whirlpool, sky garden and function hall, among others. All these features and amenities are within a gated and guarded development, with a 3-tier security system to ensure a better peace of mind for the residents.

user posted image

Verde @ Ara Damansara sales gallery tentatively will be ready for preview by mid of November and completed in January 2016. For details, call (603) 7728 6666 or (6012) 651 2355, or visit www.verde-aradamansara.com.

About the Developer

Villamas is established mid-size property developer with projects dating back to 1995. Since its first foray into property development in 2000, Villamas has experienced an outstanding growth rate that currently having ongoing and future developments exceeding RM1 billion in gross development value.

Previous developments include Villa Park at Seri Kembangan, Villamas Apartment, Atmosfera Condominium at Puchong, and Bukit Kepong Baru. Other current projects include Serin Residency at Cyberjaya and Zefer Hill Residence in Puchong Jaya.
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Priced advertised at min rm800k++ wor. But for how big?
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Priced advertised at min rm800k++ wor. But for how big?
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min build up 1300sqft... they claim they are not going for smaller build up as they think there are tonnes of supply for smaller units. The SA say they believe bigger units are more sustainable than small units wor.. (they say one, not I say) hmm.gif
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Is it bare or with priced in freebies?
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Is it bare or with priced in freebies?
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not sure bro, they didnt reveal much.. but looking at current trend, likely they will giv i guess...
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QUOTE(HouseToLive @ Oct 21 2012, 12:10 AM)
Ara Green one of the best condo to be launched in 2012, in my opinion.

Not too sure about Verde. Too much negative comments about Villamas on their past records.

The place, Ara Damansara good? U kidding me, it's only about 5 mins away from Tropicana & Bdr Utama. Good is an understatement.
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5 minutes away?
Wow which road u take ah?
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For those who are unfamiliar, IT IS indeed a mere 5 minutes to tropicana or bu.
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5 minutes away?
Wow which road u take ah?
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there's a shortcut to go tropicana from ara...
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there's a shortcut to go tropicana from ara...
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Yes, very near pass by Damansara Lagenda n PJ Seafood...
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Emmm...Leaking problem also seem happened in few project i visited before like Solace by SP Setia.

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their past project like atmosfera was done by their in house contractor, really bad workmanship.

but ever since serin and zefer, the in house contractor has been withdrawn. they are using external contractor now, should be much better
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QUOTE(888kb24 @ Nov 4 2012, 04:53 PM)
their past project like atmosfera was done by their in house contractor, really bad workmanship.

but ever since serin and zefer, the in house contractor has been withdrawn. they are using external contractor now, should be much better
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I'm skeptical on both quality of the built & how this condo will be managed in the future. Buyers need to really hope Verde lives up to the 5 star luxury as painted.
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Butir-butir Projek
Nama Projek: VERDE@ARA DAMANSARA

No. Fail: 12087-1
No. Lot: 1425
Negeri: SELANGOR
No Akaun Pemaju Perumahan (HDA): 564801641038
Nama Bank(HDA): MAYBANK
No. Lesen: 12087-1/07-2017/918
Tarikh Tamat Lesen: 11-07-2017
No. Permit: 12087-1/2483/2013(10)
Tarikh Tamat Permit: 16-10-2013
Status Tanah: PEGANGAN BEBAS


Maklumat Pemajuan
Butiran Pembangunan Projek 1

Kategori Rumah HARGA TINGGI
Jenis Rumah: PANGSAPURI SERVIS
Bil Tingkat : 13
Bil Unit: 409
Harga Max: RM 1,500,000.00
Harga Piawai: RM 1,094,100.00
Harga Min: RM 806,200.00

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Lesen is out --> Portal e-Home

Butir-butir Projek
Nama Projek:      VERDE@ARA DAMANSARA

No. Fail:              12087-1
No. Lot:              1425
Negeri:              SELANGOR
No Akaun Pemaju Perumahan (HDA):  564801641038
Nama Bank(HDA):  MAYBANK
No. Lesen:          12087-1/07-2017/918
Tarikh Tamat Lesen:  11-07-2017
No. Permit:          12087-1/2483/2013(10)
Tarikh Tamat Permit:  16-10-2013
Status Tanah:      PEGANGAN BEBAS 


Maklumat Pemajuan
Butiran Pembangunan Projek 1

Kategori Rumah  HARGA TINGGI
Jenis Rumah:  PANGSAPURI SERVIS
Bil Tingkat : 13
Bil Unit:      409
Harga Max:  RM 1,500,000.00 
Harga Piawai:  RM 1,094,100.00
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that mean rm583/sqft for 1383sqft type before discount... hmm.gif
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QUOTE(Walaoeh! @ Nov 6 2012, 04:52 PM)
that mean rm583/sqft for 1383sqft type before discount... hmm.gif
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Very reasonable for Ara Damansara area...Nova Suajana recently launch should be above RM600 psf...
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QUOTE(CMW123 @ Nov 6 2012, 05:13 PM)
Very reasonable for Ara Damansara area...Nova Suajana recently launch should be above RM600 psf...
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did you check the following nearby available property prices?
eg. oasis, puncak nusa kelana, ara hills, amaya, serai, etc. ?
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did you check the following nearby available property prices?
eg. oasis, puncak nusa kelana, ara hills, amaya, serai, etc. ?
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Oasis around RM650psf but small units
Ara Hill and Amaya around RM550 to RM600 but larger size than 1382 sq ft
Serai much higher but consider luxury development

Am i correct?
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QUOTE(CMW123 @ Nov 6 2012, 05:28 PM)
Oasis around RM650psf but small units
Ara Hill and Amaya around RM550 to RM600 but larger size than 1382 sq ft
Serai much higher but consider luxury development

Am i correct?
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i dunno, therefore i ask you mah.
to be more precise, someone once pointed out to me you need to calculate all existing stock at present value and count this verde to it's present worth for comparison.

you left out puncak wor....


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Bro, my final warning.
This Verde is by Villamas.
From personal experience, it's not worth the hassle.


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QUOTE(kochin @ Nov 6 2012, 05:34 PM)
i dunno, therefore i ask you mah.
to be more precise, someone once pointed out to me you need to calculate all existing stock at present value and count this verde to it's present worth for comparison.

you left out puncak wor....
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Bro, my final warning.
This Verde is by Villamas.
From personal experience, it's not worth the hassle.
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Yeah, think trice.

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Bro, my final warning.
This Verde is by Villamas.
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Bro, do not worry too much.

As i said, they have changed the contractor totally, and the best thing is that one of my close friends is working in villamas and taking care of that project.

That's why im totally not worried about it smile.gif

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Bro, do not worry too much.

As i said, they have changed the contractor totally, and the best thing is that one of my close friends is working in villamas and taking care of that project.

That's why im totally not worried about it smile.gif
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U bought it?

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Bro, do not worry too much.

As i said, they have changed the contractor totally, and the best thing is that one of my close friends is working in villamas and taking care of that project.

That's why im totally not worried about it smile.gif
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Blame it on the contractor? Dev should hold responsibility in delivering quality goods. Where's their QC bit from Villamas?!?
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Developer is the one who should hold and monitor the responsibility if the contractor is ba.

Selling stories, that they are using different contractor and blaming contractor is a Standard 1 kid story.

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verde, soldout dy?
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Alvin, not even launch yet. You can open the website verde damansara and call their Sales Agent smile.gif
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just curious to those who wish to buy this, why wouldn't they consider this instead?
http://www.iproperty.com.my/propertylistin...ominium_ForSale

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i saw some ppl at their show room last week at ara.... i thought so many people there sure confirm they softbooked or purchase dy.... anyone here know whats happening at their show room last week ? quite a number of ppl there
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i saw some ppl at their show room last week at ara.... i thought so many people there sure confirm they softbooked or purchase dy.... anyone here know whats happening at their show room last week ? quite a number of ppl there
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Showroom is for Ara Green, not for Verde.

Verde's show unit will be in TTDI plaza & will be ready for public viewing when they launch Verde soon.
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just curious to those who wish to buy this, why wouldn't they consider this instead?
http://www.iproperty.com.my/propertylistin...ominium_ForSale
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Ara Hill is a very nice place but don't understand why that the price appreciation is not high...
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No studio like Ara greens?
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No studio like Ara greens?
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No lah, minimum is 1,300 sq ft up so less "investors"

Aragreens smallest size is 2 rooms, about 700 sq ft, not studio...
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No lah, minimum is 1,300 sq ft up so less "investors"

Aragreens smallest size is 2 rooms, about 700 sq ft, not studio...
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684sqft the smallest with 2 rooms...
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684sqft the smallest with 2 rooms...
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684sqft can fit 2 rooms? hmm.gif
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684sqft can fit 2 rooms? hmm.gif
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Why you so interested in Ara Damansara. Do you know every working day the old subang airport highway had a massive traffic jam?
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684sqft can fit 2 rooms? hmm.gif
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With 1 washroom...

Surprisingly does not feel small for this size as per what can be seen at the show room

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With 1 washroom...

Surprisingly does not feel small for this size as per what can be seen at the show room
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Why you so interested in Ara Damansara. Do you know every working day the old subang airport highway had a massive traffic jam?
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DA considered nice area and RICH man area, right?
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DA considered nice area and RICH man area, right?
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A place with bangalows at the price range of 8mil plus the demographics of the people living in that area, yes u can say tht again.
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ok who interested in verde can go for preview this sunday, 11Nov
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ok who interested in verde can go for preview this sunday, 11Nov
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Its not preview, Its the LAUNCH.

I tot people who register only get invited. Here also got open invitation? Why register then.
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anyone's going? pls update us...
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anyone's going? pls update us...
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ahh... i forgot to go... now i remember tongue.gif
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Got another developer beside this villamas going to launch
Nearby

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Plaza TTDI la, at Taman Tun there


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Ara Green is it?

Just now i check there, only left 800k / 900k.

Crazy.

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ahh... i forgot to go... now i remember tongue.gif
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the BU size is large, that's y i dont bother to go..


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Plaza TTDI la, at Taman Tun there


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Ara Green is it?

Just now i check there, only left 800k / 900k.

Crazy.
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was there 2 weeks back, there was 1 on hold for the smallest size...but dont think that is still available now...but yeah pricing was a little bit steep

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QUOTE(nevergonewrong @ Nov 11 2012, 03:38 PM)
the BU size is large, that's y i dont bother to go..


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was there 2 weeks back, there was 1 on hold for the smallest size...but dont think that is still available now...but yeah pricing was a little bit steep
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Ya hoh. Ara Damansara is dead la. Need more pubs, pubs and pubs.

I wonder the Ara Green SA just now is Malay or Philippines because he keep speaks English to me, with very 'deep' accent especially the R pronunciation.
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Ya hoh. Ara Damansara is dead la. Need more pubs, pubs and pubs.

I wonder the Ara Green SA just now is Malay or Philippines because he keep speaks English to me, with very 'deep' accent especially the R pronunciation.
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Yeah there was one. So your bullet park where then?
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Was at Verde sales office

At 3.00 pm, 80% booked

Psf less than RM550, OMG!!!

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Was at Verde sales office

At 3.00 pm, 80% booked

Psf less than RM550, OMG!!!
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but many peoples don't care too  biggrin.gif
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It's cheap la.

1320 * 550 = 726k.

Cheap and huge too!


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I think i'll park mine into Glenmarie Park. Got KDU beside there.

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Was at the show unit & not impressed w The Verde. Ara Green is going to turn it into an ugly neighbour. Sorry.

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Was at the show unit & not impressed w The Verde. Ara Green is going to turn it into an ugly neighbour. Sorry.
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Can share reasons why not impressed? Price was attractive rite?
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Can share reasons why not impressed? Price was attractive rite?
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I think it looked too normal compared to Ara Green. Feels like any other condo out there. As for the price, I guess u get wht u pay for.

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the design a lil bit conservative..but for bumi,verde price is at RM500psqft..but the smallest is 1382..thinking to move my horse to verde..
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the design a lil bit conservative..but for bumi,verde price is at RM500psqft..but the smallest is 1382..thinking to move my horse to verde..
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Smallest units of 2 blocks all sold out. R u one of the buyer? Or wait for Block B & C next mth.
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I think it looked too normal compared to Ara Green. Feels like any other condo out there. As for the price, I guess u get wht u pay for.
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Villamas are never well known for innovation.. from Villamas to Villa Pavillion to villa Park to Atmosfera to Serin to Zefer Hills, other than giving discount n DIBS, nothing special but just a normal apartmen/condo.. dated facade with normal concept n facilities..
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Smallest units of 2 blocks all sold out. R u one of the buyer? Or wait for Block B & C next mth.
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err..the SA agent told me theres 2 more unit 1382 left..but i prefer the 1500sqft at 700k after discount since got bathtub.not sure yet,will take a week at least to decide.then if theres still available,book lo..got smarthome and balcony.
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Villamas are never well known for innovation.. from Villamas to Villa Pavillion to villa Park to Atmosfera to Serin to Zefer Hills, other than giving discount n DIBS, nothing special but just a normal apartmen/condo.. dated facade with normal concept n facilities..
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Also, cross ur fingers on the quality of the build & finishing. Buyers do ur research on their previous projects.
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yup..and thats the only thing hold me back to put dp just now.but SA said,they change the contractor n architect already.hmmm.
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yup..and thats the only thing hold me back to put dp just now.but SA said,they change the contractor n architect already.hmmm.
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tat means they admit that their previous projects were pretty sucky..? hmm.gif
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yup..and thats the only thing hold me back to put dp just now.but SA said,they change the contractor n architect already.hmmm.
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yes you are right. booked mine smile.gif
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yup..and thats the only thing hold me back to put dp just now.but SA said,they change the contractor n architect already.hmmm.
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Easy to name scapegoat & it's so lame.
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err..the SA agent told me theres 2 more unit 1382 left..but i prefer the 1500sqft at 700k after discount since got bathtub.not sure yet,will take a week at least to decide.then if theres still available,book lo..got smarthome and balcony.
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1500 sq ft close to rm800k or more rite? Got rm700k?

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tat means they admit that their previous projects were pretty sucky..?  hmm.gif
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indirectly,yes i guess.i was complaining about the zefer(even tho im not one of the buyer)..thats what she said to me.

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yes you are right. booked mine smile.gif
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how u know it just not a marketing gimmick ? hmmm.. hmm.gif

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but their price really attractive to compare with their neighbour and nova saujana.more than Rm100psqft difference wor..easily 100k.
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QUOTE(maryjane9996 @ Nov 11 2012, 09:10 PM)
indirectly,yes i guess.i was complaining about the zefer(even tho im not one of the buyer)..thats what she said to me.
how u know it just not a marketing gimmick ? hmmm..  hmm.gif
but their price really attractive to compare with their neighbour and nova saujana.more than Rm100psqft difference wor..easily 100k.
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indirectly,yes i guess.i was complaining about the zefer(even tho im not one of the buyer)..thats what she said to me.

But zefer not yet VP wor???
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Heard many complains about Atmosfera (next to Zefer) which is built by the same developer?



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indirectly,yes i guess.i was complaining about the zefer(even tho im not one of the buyer)..thats what she said to me.
how u know it just not a marketing gimmick ? hmmm..  hmm.gif
but their price really attractive to compare with their neighbour and nova saujana.more than Rm100psqft difference wor..easily 100k.
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and yes, since zefer onwards, they have changed their contractor.

past projects were all constructed by their own in house contractor, zefer and verde will not be.

that's the reason im willing to spend RM700k+ to get an unit for my own stay in future smile.gif
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as i posted in this thread before, a close friend of mine is handling this project.

and yes, since zefer onwards, they have changed their contractor.

past projects were all constructed by their own in house contractor, zefer and verde will not be.

that's the reason im willing to spend RM700k+ to get an unit for my own stay in future smile.gif
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ermmm.... if own developer cannot control the quality, what makes you think hiring external contractor can do a better job?
take a look at most of those so called good quality developers and check whether they are constructed by in house team or outsourced.
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How about Serin? Are they using in house contractor or outside contractor.
Kind of funny. If villamas cannot even manage their in house contractor, how can we have confident that they can manage other contractor.
Changing of contractor does not neccessary means good. Change for worse o better?
yet to be seen, lets c.

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Sigh, people never listen. Read back this forum in 3 yrs time and realised u hv been warned back then.
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Sigh, people never listen. Read back this forum in 3 yrs time and realised u hv been warned back then.
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I am sure some of the Villamas purchasers here had factor in and due to personal specific reasons, they go for it. Another anor group must be first time buyer who never had experienced with this developer's below par quality.

Anor fren of my, ask opinion from me abt this dev product and against 3-4 more projects. Aftr my advise, he still die die go to book this even he expected this might be a not so great expectation or diff ending compare to previous projects.


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actually bro .. u'd be surprised ..
i met a few Villamas repeat buyers .. all made money in Atmosfera, and all buying into Verde because they think its of good value plus they get additional 1.5% (??) repeat buyer discount ...

when I asked them about all the complains on workmanship, etc they said their phase wasn't affected and it affected some other phases ? guess not all are rotten .. shocking.gif

it was quite a BBB madhouse ... the SAs were working overtime printing out the booking forms .. a la Tropicana Gardens and Skypod ..
not like Metropark though, that was rather cold compared to this wink.gif

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I stayed at villa pavilion before, it is one of the project developed by Villamas. I can tell you the quality and material that they used is totally not acceptable. Management is 1 of the BIG problem there as well.. please think twice before you buy from this developer!!
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actually bro .. u'd be surprised ..
i met a few Villamas repeat buyers .. all made money in Atmosfera, and all buying into Verde because they think its of good value plus they get additional 1.5% (??) repeat buyer discount ...

when I asked them about all the complains on workmanship, etc  they said their phase wasn't affected and it affected some other phases ?  guess not all are rotten ..  shocking.gif

it was quite a BBB madhouse ... the SAs were working overtime printing out the booking forms .. a la Tropicana Gardens and Skypod ..
not like Metropark though, that was rather cold compared to this  wink.gif
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Recent launch in Ara Damansara:

Nova Suajana - RM600 psf up for > 1200 sq ft unit
Medalla, Sime Darby - RM700psf for > 1000 sq ft units
Aragreens - RM750psf for big units > 1200 sq ft units

Sime Darby is land owner, Malton must have bought the Nova Suajana land long time ago with Amaya so land cost are low

Wonder when did Villamas buy their land?

If they are selling at less than RM550 psf n if land cost is on high side, what is the level of quality they can deliver?? Somemore only 409 units?

Really wonder...

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developer is 1 thing but the location also another thing..

to me, ara damansara still very dead place.. dont really dare to invest on it..
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developer is 1 thing but the location also another thing..

to me, ara damansara still very dead place.. dont really dare to invest on it..
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i work at ara damansara, not sure about the developer, but location is very good. Its as good as staying in tropicana (location wise of course)
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i work at ara damansara, not sure about the developer, but location is very good. Its as good as staying in tropicana (location wise of course)
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do you mind to share why you say is good?
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this verde forum is in a tug of wall. please look back at the postings la, we r repeating ourselves.

sub standard developer also got fans. all they can do is give good discounts but not good finishing... sigh.

btw, this is not about the gr8 ara d'sara.
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actually .. on the contrary .. I'm quite bullish on Ara ..
yes the current environment quite bleak ..
- Oasis is like dead duck not happening, same goes for Citta mall
- the Taipan commercials dead, like no life
- surrounded on one side by small industrial area ...
- daily jam on the Subang airport highway

but, bear in mind - this is the last border of PJ/Shah Alam dy, which gives you a PJ postcode ..
Oasis investor, too bad for you .. you went in too early ..

what's in the pipeline :
short term :
- opening of cinema MBO in Citta Mall - perhaps a catalyst to bring in some life to this dead mall

medium term:
- Pacific Place commercial area, with integrated commercial + LRT stop
- confirmed new college coming ? based on their GRR plan (http://www.mudah.my/Jazz+Residence+Pacific+Place+Ara+Damansara+-18410674.htm)
- Sime Plantations + Sime Motor to move there ~ long term plan
- Tesco - still happening ?
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as mentioned earlier, projects in the pipeline :
Nova Saujana
Ara Greens
Verde
Pacific Place
Hijauan Saujana

and with Kencana Square at RM700psf++ , albeit a worst of location (IMHO) ... this is your last call before Ara takes off ..
Ara needs mass population .. right now its daed quiet because of the low density of the whole area ...
oh well, in desperate need of catalyst ...
so it all depends on where you want to be my friends ..
you want to be where it is, after it has boom , or you want to be there before it booms (famous puncline used by all property salesmen) .. bear in mind, I'm vested in the area drool.gif

QUOTE(MoneyTree88 @ Nov 12 2012, 12:38 PM)
this verde forum is in a tug of wall. please look back at the postings la, we r repeating ourselves.

sub standard developer also got fans. all they can do is give good discounts but not good finishing... sigh.

btw, this is not about the gr8 ara d'sara.
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actually .. on the contrary .. I'm quite bullish on Ara ..
yes the current environment quite bleak ..
- Oasis is like dead duck not happening, same goes for Citta mall
- the Taipan commercials dead, like no life
- surrounded on one side by small industrial area ...
- daily jam on the Subang airport highway

but, bear in mind - this is the last border of PJ/Shah Alam dy, which gives you a PJ postcode ..
Oasis investor, too bad for you .. you went in too early ..

what's in the pipeline :
short term :
- opening of cinema MBO in Citta Mall - perhaps a catalyst to bring in some life to this dead mall

medium term:
- Pacific Place commercial area, with integrated commercial + LRT stop
- confirmed new college coming ? based on their GRR plan (http://www.mudah.my/Jazz+Residence+Pacific+Place+Ara+Damansara+-18410674.htm)
- Sime Plantations + Sime Motor to move there ~ long term plan
- Tesco - still happening ?
rclxub.gif

as mentioned earlier, projects in the pipeline :
Nova Saujana
Ara Greens
Verde
Pacific Place
Hijauan Saujana

and with Kencana Square at RM700psf++ , albeit a worst of location (IMHO) ... this is your last call before Ara takes off ..
Ara needs mass population .. right now its daed quiet because of the low density of the whole area ...
oh well, in desperate need of catalyst ...
so it all depends on where you want to be my friends ..
you want to be where it is, after it has boom , or you want to be there before it booms (famous puncline used by all property salesmen) .. bear in mind, I'm vested in the area  drool.gif
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what nonsense r u uttering here. u r not THE ONLY ONE vested here. some of us already started a decade ago.

this is the verde topic, STICK TO IT!
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i heard that the architect for Verde is http://www.archicentre.com.my/

but cant find Verde in this website, so not sure if this is true...

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geeesh, somebody woke up on the wrong side of bed ?

I'm just replying the guy who said Ara Damansara area is dead ...
what's your beef ...
didn't get laid isit rclxub.gif


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what nonsense r u uttering here. u r not THE ONLY ONE vested here. some of us already started a decade ago.

this is the verde topic, STICK TO IT!
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QUOTE(imprezaWRX @ Nov 12 2012, 03:02 PM)
geeesh, somebody woke up on the wrong side of bed ?

I'm just replying the guy who said Ara Damansara area is dead ...
what's your beef ...
didn't get laid isit  rclxub.gif
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jangan gaduh la... everyone here is just discuss about Verde project, the developer Villamas history and aso the location tat not sure if good or not...

sharing info is OK..

buying or investing a Condo project need to know alot of things like Developer history, the location wise and lots more...

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haha, i think imprezaWRX is sharing some good info about the surrounding lah... thumbup.gif

btw, I wonder how is the property around this area (especially condo) appreciates over the past few years? can someone share?

Also, it seems there are quite a lot of mid sized double-storey linked house selling at rm 800k - 1 mil range, translating into <RM500 per sq ft... I know it is different market and I may be comparing apple to orange... but just wondering if there will be any upside for this condo...
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what nonsense r u uttering here. u r not THE ONLY ONE vested here. some of us already started a decade ago.

this is the verde topic, STICK TO IT!
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wow moneytree, ppl here trying to offer good info, and u just simply claim it is nonsense and shoot them down. If u don't know how to appreciate forummers sharing info, or just don't understand what is happening, think twice before typing any sort of reply on any forum threads.

what more do you expect to read in a thread about a project that hasn't even started construction?? Of course there will be thorough discussion about location!
Its one of the most important things when deciding to purchase a house! Or are you those type that buy properties based on how many free aircond you get?
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keke sorry guys, got carried away ...

the current large units Amaya n Ara Hills not doing that great ..
around RM500psf subsale price .. although sellers askign for RM600psf ..
whilst Puncak Seri Kelana is asking for RM350psf .. thereabouts ..

i believe AD lacks critical mass + some form of catalyst to boom .. Citta by virtue of its odd layout, is not doing a great job ..
perhaps the cinema will lead the way ... but I do foresee the LRT extension as one of the catalyst .. hmm.gif

the likes of Seri Pilmoor or Serai will not boost anything - because the owners will most probably prefer a low density, uncrowded neighbourhood ..


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haha, i think imprezaWRX is sharing some good info about the surrounding lah...  thumbup.gif

btw, I wonder how is the property around this area (especially condo) appreciates over the past few years? can someone share?

Also, it seems there are quite a lot of mid sized  double-storey  linked house selling at rm 800k - 1 mil range, translating into <RM500 per sq ft... I know it is different market and I may be comparing apple to orange... but just wondering if there will be any upside for this condo...
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QUOTE(HolyHuman2000 @ Nov 12 2012, 04:27 PM)
wow moneytree, ppl here trying to offer good info, and u just simply claim it is nonsense and shoot them down. If u don't know how to appreciate forummers sharing info, or just don't understand what is happening, think twice before typing any sort of reply on any forum threads.

what more do you expect to read in a thread about a project that hasn't even started construction?? Of course there will be thorough discussion about location!
Its one of the most important things when deciding to purchase a house! Or are you those type that buy properties based on how many free aircond you get?
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Any other condos that interests u guyz, besides those 2 in Ara of course.
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QUOTE(imprezaWRX @ Nov 12 2012, 01:23 PM)
actually .. on the contrary .. I'm quite bullish on Ara ..
yes the current environment quite bleak ..
- Oasis is like dead duck not happening, same goes for Citta mall
- the Taipan commercials dead, like no life
- surrounded on one side by small industrial area ...
- daily jam on the Subang airport highway

but, bear in mind - this is the last border of PJ/Shah Alam dy, which gives you a PJ postcode ..
Oasis investor, too bad for you .. you went in too early ..

what's in the pipeline :
short term :
- opening of cinema MBO in Citta Mall - perhaps a catalyst to bring in some life to this dead mall

medium term:
- Pacific Place commercial area, with integrated commercial + LRT stop
- confirmed new college coming ? based on their GRR plan (http://www.mudah.my/Jazz+Residence+Pacific+Place+Ara+Damansara+-18410674.htm)
- Sime Plantations + Sime Motor to move there ~ long term plan
- Tesco - still happening ?
rclxub.gif

as mentioned earlier, projects in the pipeline :
Nova Saujana
Ara Greens
Verde
Pacific Place
Hijauan Saujana

and with Kencana Square at RM700psf++ , albeit a worst of location (IMHO) ... this is your last call before Ara takes off ..
Ara needs mass population .. right now its daed quiet because of the low density of the whole area ...
oh well, in desperate need of catalyst ...
so it all depends on where you want to be my friends ..
you want to be where it is, after it has boom , or you want to be there before it booms (famous puncline used by all property salesmen) .. bear in mind, I'm vested in the area  drool.gif
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thanks for the great info. notworthy.gif

i personally see the lrt extension would push the neighbourhood price.. thumbup.gif
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Good points. I agree with you and I feel that lrt will be the Main catalyst....Cinema will help a bit but given the nature of the Citta mall layout and concept I guess it is hard to revive it too much. The SD mixed dev and PP will also contribute to bring in some crowd, but the question is how long this will take before we see a more vibrant &happening township there.

Wow,.. At that subsale price of ara hills, It seems the current verde and ara greens Price may be a bit too steep, some more given the dev's background...hmmm




QUOTE(imprezaWRX @ Nov 12 2012, 04:41 PM)
keke sorry guys, got carried away ...

the current large units Amaya n Ara Hills not doing that great ..
around RM500psf subsale price .. although sellers askign for RM600psf ..
whilst Puncak Seri Kelana is asking for RM350psf .. thereabouts ..

i believe AD lacks critical mass + some form of catalyst to boom .. Citta by virtue of its odd layout, is not doing a great job ..
perhaps the cinema will lead the way ... but I do foresee the LRT extension as one of the catalyst .. hmm.gif

the likes of Seri Pilmoor or Serai will not boost anything - because the owners will most probably prefer a low density, uncrowded neighbourhood ..
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QUOTE(dongding @ Nov 12 2012, 05:16 PM)
Good points. I agree with you and I feel that lrt will be the Main catalyst....Cinema will help a bit but given the nature of the Citta mall layout and concept I guess it is hard to revive it too much. The SD mixed dev and PP will also contribute to bring in some crowd, but the question is how long this will take before we see a more vibrant &happening township there.

Wow,.. At that subsale price of ara hills, It seems the current verde and ara greens Price may be a bit too steep, some more  given the dev's background...hmmm
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citta mall layout a lil bit weird..but its good they have chillis and few other famous restaurant over there.

when ? i think right after the lrt extension complete 2014 and skypark will be a hub for MRO 2015.. smile.gif

for me i think ara green price is quite expensive,verde reasonable price despite the developer history,nova just right in the middle..ara hills pricing around rm520psqft.
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Jazz residence at Pacific Place maybe a better option as it has guarantee return of 3,600 per month. They are renting the condo to students for SEGI College and it is mentioned in their website that one unit can comfortably fit 6 students. Also villamas the developer of Verde has many negative comments.
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QUOTE(charlieboy61 @ Nov 13 2012, 11:14 AM)
Jazz residence at Pacific Place maybe a better option as it has guarantee return of 3,600 per month. They are renting the condo to students for SEGI College and it is mentioned in their website that one unit can comfortably fit 6 students. Also villamas the developer of Verde has many negative comments.
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ya..but the mark up the price already..unless u the buyer of bloack abcd.  rclxms.gif
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Tesco is most likely approved under Sime Darby's Ara Damansara Shopping Mall. (u know why? lol)

SEGi is the college at Pacific Place, if not mistaken.

Future Pacific Place Mall will have a new anchor tenant.

Sime Darby Plantation has relocated to Ara.

Ara just have to wait for LRT and proposed new ramps to connect to heartland.
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anyone bought verde here?
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anyone bought verde here?
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I have booked a unit during launching , all facing northeast and southeast fully sold. Had canceled hijauan saujana. Hope I have made the correct decision smile.gif .


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I have booked a unit during launching , all facing northeast and southeast fully sold. Had canceled hijauan saujana. Hope I have made the correct decision smile.gif .
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Heard fr the SA that next month will launch new Block which is bigger size but 10 to 15percentage increase in price..

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guyz... go and view villamas project... Atmosfera Kondominium
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I have booked a unit during launching , all facing northeast and southeast fully sold. Had canceled hijauan saujana. Hope I have made the correct decision smile.gif .


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Heard fr the SA that next month will launch new Block which is bigger size but 10 to 15percentage increase in price..
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why cancelled saujana? can offer to others if you had super early bird. smile.gif
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ya..but the mark up the price already..unless u the buyer of bloack abcd.  rclxms.gif
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The RM 700k full furnished units of Jazz Residence @ Pacific Place is different with the Pacific Place Block A-D.

The Block F and G ( if I can remember well ) was sold enbloc to HCK Group, who received invitation from Segi Group to provide accommodations to their 6,000 students ( and increasing) based in USJ, Ara Dsara and Kota Dsara. The enbloc buyer company refurnish it to more granded with full furnished to estimate 6 students per unit with rental of RM 3,600 in leasing contract and now open for sale for public to buy fr them n lease back to them. The first block already 90% sold and 2nd block will be open this week. A lot of Sarawakians and Singaporeans very entice of this and sapu immediately.

The entrance is different from the Block A-D who bought directly fr developer, MNH Management SB and no leasing contract for them.
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Lol... looks like Ara Green's price is a huge boost to Verde's sales... Too huge a difference. Well, about the quality, once bitten twice shy. I'll place my bet on Verde. After all, concept is subjective and aint that practical.
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The RM 700k full furnished units of Jazz Residence @ Pacific Place is different with the Pacific Place Block A-D.

The Block F and G ( if I can remember well ) was sold enbloc to HCK Group, who received invitation from Segi Group to provide accommodations to their 6,000 students ( and increasing) based in USJ, Ara Dsara and Kota Dsara. The enbloc buyer company refurnish it to more granded with full furnished to estimate 6 students per unit with rental of RM 3,600 in leasing contract and now open for sale for public to buy fr them n lease back to them. The first block already 90% sold and 2nd block will be open this week. A lot of Sarawakians and Singaporeans very entice of this and sapu immediately. 

The entrance is different from the Block A-D who bought directly fr developer, MNH Management SB and no leasing contract for them.
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so they have the guaranteed return contract right ? and its only for the first 2 year ? this is something like regalia jalan kuching.

any link to for this new block bro ? thanks
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so they have the guaranteed return contract right ? and its only for the first 2 year ? this is something like regalia jalan kuching.

any link to for this new block bro ? thanks
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Bro, no link for this project because they are yet to market it heavily to the public but now preview for investors.

I not sure of the guarantee, which I quite remember it was not guarantee but I heard some other members said it was guarantee and posted the agents' quote. Dunno which page dy.

It was 3+3 years optional.

I had the brochure but Left at home due to out for vacation. Hehe.

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The first block already 90% sold and 2nd block will be open this week.
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What is the indicative per sf pricing and size?

Btw heard this project is build on top of landfill...
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What is the indicative per sf pricing and size?

Btw heard this project is build on top of landfill...
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Bro, lets better you ask at Jazz Residence or Pacific Place thread for further info. It was 993 sq ft I think, one size only and RM 700 psf.

This is Verde thread and I don't members here say I promo it highly at wrong thread. Lol.

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Bro, lets better you ask at Jazz Residence or Pacific Place thread for further info. It was 993 sq ft I think, one size only and RM 700 psf.

This is Verde thread and I don't members here say I promo it highly at wrong thread. Lol.
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Lol...ok thanks taikor.

Anyway dev has gone really crazy with such price...
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why cancelled saujana? can offer to others if you had super early bird.  smile.gif
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The sales for saujana is not good . Till now they still offer the same package . Anyway I dint pay anything yet smile.gif they allow me to apply loan first bef pay deposit during launching block b.

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For those verde units with view facing the river behind, word of caution, please check it out first. The river sight is pretty unpleasant n opposite the river there is a sewerage plant. You can park ur car at the mamak restaurant n go down to see
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What is the indicative per sf pricing and size?

Btw heard this project is build on top of landfill...
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U r right bout the landfill. Not very stable ground if foundation not done properly. The low cost apartments beside it, at some point was declare unsafe due to structure tilting. Maybe they hv rectified it after so many year vacant and seemed ready for occupancy now.


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Lol... looks like Ara Green's price is a huge boost to Verde's sales... Too huge a difference. Well, about the quality, once bitten twice shy. I'll place my bet on Verde. After all, concept is subjective and aint that practical.
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U'll place ur bet in Verde's quality compare to Ara Green? Seriously? Check Villamas repo mate.

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Bro, no link for this project because they are yet to market it heavily to the public but now preview for investors.

I not sure of the guarantee, which I quite remember it was not guarantee but I heard some other members said it was guarantee and posted the agents' quote. Dunno which page dy.

It was 3+3 years optional.

I had the brochure but Left at home due to out for vacation. Hehe.
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wa...if 3+3 then very good lo..straight after contact expired can flip lo... biggrin.gif

gonna check it out..thanks taiko. nod.gif
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Nah, when I said once bitten twice shy, I meant the developer should hv the common sense to get it right for Verde after what they experienced with Atmosfera. Difference is, I do not stereotype a developer base on one project in particular, I'm sure they have a fair share of success for other projects as well... Likewise, I m sure the once medium size developers like Mah Sing and SP Setia has experienced the same, but that did not stop them from growing to a reputable developer now. It took time but they persisted. So... I m sure Villamas will place greater emphasis to Verde's quality if they ever wish to grow. Additionally, it is human nature to always amplify on other's mistakes but never on their contributions or success... given those considerations, my risk is manageable and yes... I will still place my bet on Verde.... nod.gif
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U sure sound like the sales manager that attended to me.
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For those verde units with view facing the river behind, word of caution, please check it out first. The river sight is pretty unpleasant n opposite the river there is a sewerage plant. You can park ur car at the mamak restaurant n go down to see
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After checking it out some concern sad.gif sweat.gif
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QUOTE(HouseToLive @ Nov 15 2012, 07:47 PM)
U sure sound like the sales manager that attended to me.
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Isn't that the truth anyway?
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actually bro .. u'd be surprised ..
i met a few Villamas repeat buyers .. all made money in Atmosfera, and all buying into Verde because they think its of good value plus they get additional 1.5% (??) repeat buyer discount ...

when I asked them about all the complains on workmanship, etc  they said their phase wasn't affected and it affected some other phases ?  guess not all are rotten ..  shocking.gif

it was quite a BBB madhouse ... the SAs were working overtime printing out the booking forms .. a la Tropicana Gardens and Skypod ..
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QUOTE(brandonho @ Nov 15 2012, 07:42 PM)
Nah, when I said once bitten twice shy, I meant the developer should hv the common sense to get it right for Verde after what they experienced with Atmosfera. Difference is, I do not stereotype a developer base on one project in particular, I'm sure they have a fair share of success for other projects as well... Likewise, I m sure the once medium size developers like Mah Sing and SP Setia has experienced the same, but that did not stop them from growing to a reputable developer now. It took time but they persisted. So... I m sure Villamas will place greater emphasis to Verde's quality if they ever wish to grow. Additionally, it is human nature to always amplify on other's mistakes but never on their contributions or success... given those considerations, my risk is manageable and yes... I will still place my bet on Verde.... nod.gif
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What about Talam? Keep on doing bad things till change name. Even lagoon perdana got problem till one block also failed to get CF.

I like Ara Damansara, just hope Verde and Ara Green can sustain and dun spoil the area.
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QUOTE(RomaNce @ Nov 15 2012, 10:47 PM)
What about Talam? Keep on doing bad things till change name. Even lagoon perdana got problem till one block also failed to get CF.

I like Ara Damansara, just hope Verde and Ara Green can sustain and dun spoil the area.
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Well, I won't question how much do u know about Talam, neither do I want to comment on things with so many political agendas. Nonetheless, like u said it yourself, they kept doing bad things... So how can anyone over generalize Villamas as a bad company with merely one bad project to date? I understand it's only normal for such concerns to rise, but lets not be judgemental on matters that does not represent a company as a whole.

That aside, I too, hope that Ara Damansara will continue to enjoy a conducive living status, given the fact that land are scarce, numerous community parks, wide roads, affluent naighbourhood and minimal skyscrapers. And with the current balance between supply and demand for residential properties, Verde and Ara Greens may be more of a need than a hazard. Rest assure, Ara Damansara is enjoying a good maturing rate and there are more end-user product than investment product.
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I dont see the point to compare Verde and Ara Green.
Ara Green RM700psft+ Invest a lot in design, facilities but high density.
Verde RM550psft huge space, low density but design normal.

So, you get what you pay..If you rich enough you can even look at MK property which give you luxury, impressive design and so on. Perhaps, RM1million+?

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For those verde units with view facing the river behind, word of caution, please check it out first. The river sight is pretty unpleasant n opposite the river there is a sewerage plant. You can park ur car at the mamak restaurant n go down to see
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My unit is facing northwest , petronas side, the sewerage plant behind petronas ?
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What about Talam? Keep on doing bad things till change name. Even lagoon perdana got problem till one block also failed to get CF.

I like Ara Damansara, just hope Verde and Ara Green can sustain and dun spoil the area.
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QUOTE(brandonho @ Nov 16 2012, 12:14 AM)
So how can anyone over generalize Villamas as a bad company with merely one bad project to date? I understand it's only normal for such concerns to rise, but lets not be judgemental on matters that does not represent a company as a whole.

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more than 1 completed projects to date.. wink.gif
Serin and Zefer not complete yet..

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more than 1 completed projects to date.. wink.gif
Serin and Zefer not complete yet..
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I mean bad project...There is only one to date... And u r right... Serin and Zefer not completed yet.... So it's not time to drop judgement without any basis. One doesn't represent all....

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QUOTE(brandonho @ Nov 16 2012, 08:40 AM)
I mean bad project...There is only one to date... And u r right... Serin and Zefer not completed yet.... So it's not time to drop judgement without any basis. One doesn't represent all....
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Villamas, Villa Pavi, Atmosfera.... cool2.gif

My judgement is... there is developer which only care about profit despite the quality that they should deliver..
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Villamas, Villa Pavi, Atmosfera....  cool2.gif

My judgement is... there is developer which only care about profit despite the quality that they should deliver..
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not trying to side anyone here.....but i do think in the long run, a reputable developer would actually equate to better profitability. just look at UOA, people will just go and buy their project, as they are pretty good in their workmanship. same goes to sunrise, malton etc etc.

developer with bad reputation will end up having to compete on pricing only and when this happen, things can only get worse and not better.

admittedly, maybe there is some quality issues (i am assuming what is said in this forum is true) in one of their projects, but would like to ask if the developer is rectifying the issue as they surface or the developer adopting a tidak-apa attitude. if developer is indeed doing something, it goes to show they too, are serious and concerned on their reputation.

just my 2 sen.
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Isn't that the truth anyway?
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I think u should read this forum starting from pg1 for the truth. Also u can google for other forums regarding Villamas for more truths. Not just 1 project, it's Villamas' projects tht others r reffering to. It's the repo & image of a certain kind of quality coming from Villamas. They need a lot more better projects to make it up. Buyers will just hv to gamble that's all.

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My unit is facing northwest , petronas side, the sewerage plant behind petronas ?
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Yes, there is a small treatment plant behind petronas across the river. There is another sewarage treatment plant, a very big one further down too.

If the units are facing the river, sure can see the small one. If higher floor, believed can see both.

You can check from google map.

But best is take a look yourself and judge...
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QUOTE(brandonho @ Nov 16 2012, 10:55 AM)
Well said, please name more of Villamas projects because they are mostly recurring buyers and I wonder why. As for your statement on developer who cares about profit but never really deliver in terms of quality, generally no business owners will hv the right mind to say that they do not want to profit... But when it comes to quality, unless the quality of their product has been consistently poor, only can we say that they are unreliable. In the case of Villamas, looks like they are no where near being unreliable bro....   wink.gif

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it is unrealiable... I'm one of ex-Villamas purchaser.. the problem keep coming until warranty expired (after 18 month).. I have spent about RM30k ++ just to rectify my ex-unit (lucky to buyer) after the warranty expiry date.. I from zero knowlegde on house leaking become an expert already.. To investigate this matter, I have made survey on Villamas other completed project.. so yaaa... it's terible..

till now, other owners who dare not to spend like me still facing the problem.. even they need to call authority to check on this matter..

So you are any Villamas Prop owner?


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Now this is quite a constructive comment. The problem with forums are, people get emotionally attached to comments that is conveyed out of frustration. And with just merely a fixable issue, things can be blown out of proportion. Question is, does anyone have any idea how efficient has Villamas been, when it comes to rectifying defects and addressing resident's concerns? Even if there is, no one really announce it on forums, hence, only the bad stuff lingers around here. nevertheless, This has been of great help to Villamas, as they continue to better themselves and channels these feedbacks to something of greater use.
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I wrote base on my own real life, money and time experience... icon_rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(abgkik @ Nov 16 2012, 11:47 AM)
it is unrealiable... I'm one of ex-Villamas purchaser.. the problem keep coming until warranty expired (after 18 month).. I have spent about RM30k ++ just to rectify my ex-unit (lucky to buyer) after the warranty expiry date.. I from zero knowlegde on house leaking become an expert already.. To investigate this matter, I have made survey on Villamas other completed project.. so yaaa... it's terible..

till now, other owners who dare not to spend like me still facing the problem.. even they need to call authority to check on this matter..

So you are any Villamas Prop owner?


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I wrote base on my own real life, money and time experience...  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Wow for someone who has made some profit from the sub-sale of Villamas project and yet have something bad to talk about, your credibility should be questioned. Just from what you claimed, of conducting a survey, without any supporting facts, it'll always remain as an accusation. Anyway, from the very inadequate info you provided, I am assuming u r referring to Atmosfera, which it's defect liability period is no where near to expiry. And for the only point that u hv been advocating, It's called water proofing. Why would you repair at your own cost when it's still under the defects liability period? I am very very very confused.... Pls enlighten me...
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Wow for someone who has made some profit from the sub-sale of Villamas project and yet have something bad to talk about, your credibility should be questioned. Just from what you claimed, of conducting a survey, without any supporting facts, it'll always remain as an accusation. Anyway, from the very inadequate info you provided, I am assuming u r referring to Atmosfera, which it's defect liability period is no where near to expiry. And for the only point that u hv been advocating, It's called water proofing. Why would you repair at your own cost when it's still under the defects liability period? I am very very very confused....  Pls enlighten me...
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Bro... After 18 months of warranty period, do you think developer bother to entertain u? my cost of repair is after warranty period, as developer unable to solve it.. I hv made profit? I purchased for my own use and my selling price is only par with my cost.. I move out because no more privacy within the area...

Facts? biggrin.gif biggrin.gif there are few letter wrote by JMB to conduct the inspection with authority on the problem..

Not to stop buyer to gamble.. But beware... wink.gif

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I think brandonho is the agent for verde....very positive on that.

Basically i like ara damansara but these verde and ara green really got few bad points.

1) not reputable developer
2) low quality
3) too expensive
4) villamas workmanship is no good

Compared to mk, hartamas, taman desa by uoa, sunrise, spsetia...price is still reasonable but with better locstion and quality...i m talking about 550psf as well....which verde and ara green selling more than this price but with different quality and location.

What is the strong point why buyer want to choose verde to invest? Unless the buyers never know about villamas reputation, they dunno and scare to invest into other location, then kena blind or psycho by the agents and first time buyer just look at the package to gamble but not to invest.
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Bro... After 18 months of warranty period, do you think developer bother to entertain u? my cost of repair is after warranty period, as developer unable to solve it.. I hv made profit? I purchased for my own use and my selling price is only par with my cost.. I move out because no more privacy within the area...

Facts?  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif there are few letter wrote by JMB to conduct the inspection with authority on the problem..

Not to stop buyer to gamble.. But beware...  wink.gif
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Abangkik, I agree with you.

I dont know the extend of BrandanHo's experience with Villamas, or how vested he is, but from my personal experience, this developer's commitment and responsibility towards their property buyers has a lot of room for improvement. Not only that, the quality of the finished product also leaves a lot of bitter taste in mouth.

I know for a fact that some buyers of their properties launches various complaints but was not resolved. It reached a stage when the residents had to file complaints to local authorithies.

As for his point abt people not highlighting the good things Villamas did, well let me ask this; would anyone want to spoil the reputation of the properties they are vested in if they have a choice? Would people want the public to know their property is full of problems, thus lower its market value? Of course not! But people do that when they are pushed into a corner, and can't take it anymore.

Yes, it's that bad.

Yes, there are repeated buyers of villamas properties. That's because they made money. Why not? In the past two, three years, any props, regardless of location and quality, would make money. Many of these speculators hardly give a damn about the property and its liveability. But if the market slows down, then buyers will be more choosy, and that's when quality will make and break the deal.

And why those who made money off Villamas do not have right to complain? Their gain is from the risks they took, and from the bullish market atmosphere. in fact, Villamas's could have reduced their profits due to their quality issues. The credibility is only lost when you compromise your opinions due to money.

Good luck to those who want to take a gamble.

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Thank you guys. Seems like he's defending it like a Villamas hero.
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I really hope the villamas representative read this forum.... after so many project yet the complain is still the same...

Every of thier project aso have the same complain and yet the same complain happen to new development project then is really Villamas problem and not the contractor problem...

Must Improve looo....
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i guessing the Brandonho is somehow related to Villamas...
Can check through his profile here... smile.gif
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It's obvious.

Anyways buyers really should do their homework. The sales guys r really good in painting a good pucture to pushing sales.
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QUOTE(brandonho @ Nov 16 2012, 03:03 PM)
Well, I Appreciate all the personal opinions about Villamas thus far. And as the saying goes, what doesn't kill you, makes u stronger. And being among the few out of the thousands who were part of Villamas projects, your opinions are equally treated with utmost importance.

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Bla bla bla... This is exactly the same rhetoric I received when talking to real Villamas respresentative on the issues affecting my Villamas condo. Now I am more than convinced you are somehow vested in Villamas or this project.

What? You think you are a Jedi Master giving us advise ah? We don't need Villamas to 'try to kill us to make us stronger'. We just need them to be more responsive, take comprehensive actions and solve those bloody problems. We as buyers are paying your salary or profit, so we just expect you to do your job well, and not to tell us what to think or learn when you guys don't do your jobs.

Yeah, the fact is I am only one of the few hundreds dissatisfied purchasers. But I can assure you that there more than a huge group of us who share the same feeling. Hell, if you do a checking with Ministry of Housing or MPSJ you will the number of formal complaints lodged against them! The Ministry's officers even came to the condo to conduct a briefing on the procedures, and then receive complaints. This is not hearsay, nor rumours. And the listing of complaints and defects can run to a few pages of A4 papers. That's on the common area alone!

And by saying that I am 'the few out of the thousands', you are doing exactly the opposite of 'treating with utmost importance'. You are trying to minisculate my opinion, and dismissive about it. Your hidden message is 'you are just a small fry, so your opinion is neglible'. Again, this is the same attitude that made me so fed up with this developer.

My advise to Villamas is to do their job properly, fixed those faulty lifts (not even half a year handover already spoiled) and stop giving excuses (for example, lift spare parts out of stock!).
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QUOTE(brandonho @ Nov 16 2012, 03:03 PM)
Well, I Appreciate all the personal opinions about Villamas thus far. And as the saying goes, what doesn't kill you, makes u stronger. And being among the few out of the thousands who were part of Villamas projects, your opinions are equally treated with utmost importance. To place all credits to those who vested in Villamas project and none on the developer itself on the basis that the bullish market atmosphere was favorable, seems like an understatement. Not all are making money yet especially those who thought they missed the bandwagon and jumped into locations with imbalanced growth rate between supply and demand. When a location's growth rate turns into developments built out of trend versus location built out of needs, you risk having an oversupply of property and place you in a position where u hv little control over your price demand from the secondary market. If you notice, Villamas projects have always been built in developing town ships with a favorable maturing rate, hence, making buyers the pioneers of a location in particular.

To create a simpler understanding on the quality of Villamas projects, Villamas has never denied any of such cases but hv always looked into it from a legal perspective. And for whatever matters brought up for a constructive discussion, they are all temporary and rectifiable. Methods taken by certain quarters in confronting the problems are also a representation of themselves. The reason for us to hv recurring buyers is due to the fact that not all projects are affected, like other developers, we have a fair share of happy and unhappy buyers and we place great importance in the selection of land for future developments. Villamas does not believe in a hit and run business as they continue to better themselves from all angels. Meanwhile, I too, from a buyer's perspective will understand the frustrations some has endured that is why I dare to confront the issue head on by using my actual name in this forum.

My voice here does not represent any parties in particular, but I wish that people can look at issues from a wider spectrum. Opinions are always subjective facts are always true, In the case of Villamas, out of so many other projects, they hv had their fair share of success and challenges. Lets not over generalize. For those who placed their bet on Villamas, the risk are much lower now, becos once bitten, twice shy, it only makes so much more sense for them to make it right for Verde.
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but to be honest, i guess only time will tell and it is also true that any buyers of villamas project now is really taking risk. But what investment does not come with risk?

i am also guessing that this might be the reason verde is priced much more competitively with ara green which obviously is a direct competitor. If you take an opinion that the developer will improve, then this will definitely be a good buy. if you do not think developer will improve, then question would be, is the price differentiation sufficient enough for investor to choose verde over ara green? (comparison with other location might not be fair).....if investor is right then they make some good money, if investor is wrong, then they are likely to be stuck.

that is why i love the forum. it allows both sides to voice their opinion. thumbup.gif


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Well, I Appreciate all the personal opinions about Villamas thus far. And as the saying goes, what doesn't kill you, makes u stronger. And being among the few out of the thousands who were part of Villamas projects, your opinions are equally treated with utmost importance. To place all credits to those who vested in Villamas project and none on the developer itself on the basis that the bullish market atmosphere was favorable, seems like an understatement. Not all are making money yet especially those who thought they missed the bandwagon and jumped into locations with imbalanced growth rate between supply and demand. When a location's growth rate turns into developments built out of trend versus location built out of needs, you risk having an oversupply of property and place you in a position where u hv little control over your price demand from the secondary market. If you notice, Villamas projects have always been built in developing town ships with a favorable maturing rate, hence, making buyers the pioneers of a location in particular.

To create a simpler understanding on the quality of Villamas projects, Villamas has never denied any of such cases but hv always looked into it from a legal perspective. And for whatever matters brought up for a constructive discussion, they are all temporary and rectifiable. Methods taken by certain quarters in confronting the problems are also a representation of themselves. The reason for us to hv recurring buyers is due to the fact that not all projects are affected, like other developers, we have a fair share of happy and unhappy buyers and we place great importance in the selection of land for future developments. Villamas does not believe in a hit and run business as they continue to better themselves from all angels. Meanwhile, I too, from a buyer's perspective will understand the frustrations some has endured that is why I dare to confront the issue head on by using my actual name in this forum.

My voice here does not represent any parties in particular, but I wish that people can look at issues from a wider spectrum. Opinions are always subjective facts are always true, In the case of Villamas, out of so many other projects, they hv had their fair share of success and challenges. Lets not over generalize. For those who placed their bet on Villamas, the risk are much lower now, becos once bitten, twice shy, it only makes so much more sense for them to make it right for Verde.
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but to be honest, i guess only time will tell and it is also true that any buyers of villamas project now is really taking risk. But what investment does not come with risk?

i am also guessing that this might be the reason verde is priced much more competitively with ara green which obviously is a direct competitor. If you take an opinion that the developer will improve, then this will definitely be a good buy. if you do not think developer will improve, then question would be, is the price differentiation sufficient enough for investor to choose verde over ara green? (comparison with other location might not be fair).....if investor is right then they make some good money, if investor is wrong, then they are likely to be stuck.

that is why i love the forum. it allows both sides to voice their opinion. thumbup.gif

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...people get emotionally attached to comments that is conveyed out of frustration. And with just merely a fixable issue, things can be blown out of proportion. Question is, does anyone have any idea how efficient has Villamas been, when it comes to rectifying defects and addressing resident's concerns? Even if there is, no one really announce it on forums, hence, only the bad stuff lingers around here. nevertheless, This has been of great help to Villamas, as they continue to better themselves and channels these feedbacks to something of greater use...

..Lets not over generalize. For those who placed their bet on Villamas, the risk are much lower now, becos once bitten, twice shy, it only makes so much more sense for them to make it right for Verde...

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Yeah, people got frustrated. Why? Because some developer repeatedly fails to rectify the issues faced by the purchasers.

Question is, does anyone have any idea how efficient has Villamas been? Yeah, I know because I experienced it. The answer is NOT VERY EFFICIENT at all. If they are so efficient, please ask them, as on late Oct, why there is no confirmed date to fix Atmosfera's elevators yet?

Please why only few months after handovers already got flooding problem in basement carpark and common corridor when it rains heavily? Why even the barbeque pit got issue?

I am not over generalizing. I speak with specifics. And why I dare to say all this without fearing libel lawsuit from Villamas? Because it is all true.

Actually i read about Villamas's shoddy workmanship before I purchased Atmosfera. I thought, this condo is their first venture into the higher-end market, so they will put in 110% to make sure this project is a success. Then they will have a good example to showcase when they market Serin, Zefer and Verde.

Well, I don't know how many % they put in in reality, but I know it is definitely NOT GOOD enough!

So what make anyone think they have learned their lesson?
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Yeah, people got frustrated. Why? Because some developer repeatedly fails to rectify the issues faced by the purchasers.

Question is, does anyone have any idea how efficient has Villamas been? Yeah, I know because I experienced it. The answer is NOT VERY EFFICIENT at all. If they are so efficient, please ask them, as on late Oct, why there is no confirmed date to fix Atmosfera's elevators yet?

Please why only few months after handovers already got flooding problem in basement carpark and common corridor when it rains heavily? Why even the barbeque pit got issue?

I am not over generalizing. I speak with specifics. And why I dare to say all this without fearing libel lawsuit from Villamas? Because it is all true.

Actually i read about Villamas's shoddy workmanship before I purchased Atmosfera. I thought, this condo is their first venture into the higher-end market, so they will put in 110% to make sure this project is a success. Then they will have a good example to showcase when they market Serin, Zefer and Verde.

Well, I don't know how many % they put in in reality, but I know it is definitely NOT GOOD enough!

So what make anyone think they have learned their lesson?
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Yeah, people got frustrated. Why? Because some developer repeatedly fails to rectify the issues faced by the purchasers.

Question is, does anyone have any idea how efficient has Villamas been? Yeah, I know because I experienced it. The answer is NOT VERY EFFICIENT at all. If they are so efficient, please ask them, as on late Oct, why there is no confirmed date to fix Atmosfera's elevators yet?

Please why only few months after handovers already got flooding problem in basement carpark and common corridor when it rains heavily? Why even the barbeque pit got issue?

I am not over generalizing. I speak with specifics. And why I dare to say all this without fearing libel lawsuit from Villamas? Because it is all true.

Actually i read about Villamas's shoddy workmanship before I purchased Atmosfera. I thought, this condo is their first venture into the higher-end market, so they will put in 110% to make sure this project is a success. Then they will have a good example to showcase when they market Serin, Zefer and Verde.

Well, I don't know how many % they put in in reality, but I know it is definitely NOT GOOD enough!

So what make anyone think they have learned their lesson?
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Wow...villamas is really problem developer just like talam....luckily did not invest in the future problem Verde! Thanks bro!
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Hi, I am new in property investment and had been reading this thread for some times. And had been browsing the atmosfera advertisements in propwall and iProp. Seems like the workmanship not really as bad as mentioned. blush.gif

Been to setiawalk at Puchong also, noted that the 1500sf also asking for more than 800K and quality of work seems the same / not much different from atmosfera.

So, I was thinking at that kind of pricing compared to Verde, Ara Damansara is definitely a better location. And, off course overall environment is much quieter and soothing for family living. With Tesco and the present medical center, upcoming project by See Hoy Chan near Citta Mall (citta mall owned by tycoon Lee Ka-Shing), can I said that Ara Damansara is a better bet compared to other? Sorry, I didnt mentioned abt Ara Green here because I cant afford it at that kind of steep pricing. unsure.gif

Another finding that I found about Villamas is that they do not have abandoned projects. That is surely a safe bet, I guess.

Anyway, all above is only my personal opinion. Hope that all sifus here can give further advise. Thank you.
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Hi all, first post in this forum smile.gif

I have a unit with good number to let go. My partner withdraw and I can't afford by myself. For those who are interested in this project, kindly PM me for details.

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Actually, the first and biggest fear is the project gets abandoned and investors are left hanging.
Of course, second bigger fear is when the property get delivered, the unit becomes problematic with a lot to fix.
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QUOTE(prop newbie @ Nov 18 2012, 07:35 PM)
Hi, I am new in property investment and had been reading this thread for some times. And had been browsing the atmosfera advertisements in propwall and iProp. Seems like the workmanship not really as bad as mentioned.  blush.gif

Been to setiawalk at Puchong also, noted that the 1500sf also asking for more than 800K and quality of work seems the same / not much different from atmosfera.

So, I was thinking at that kind of pricing compared to Verde, Ara Damansara is definitely a better location. And, off course  overall environment is much quieter and soothing for family living. With Tesco and the present medical center, upcoming project by See Hoy Chan near Citta Mall (citta mall owned by tycoon Lee Ka-Shing), can I said that Ara Damansara is a better bet compared to other? Sorry, I didnt mentioned abt Ara Green here because I cant afford it at that kind of steep pricing.  unsure.gif

Another finding that I found about Villamas is that they do not have abandoned projects. That is surely a safe bet, I guess.

Anyway, all above is only my personal opinion. Hope that all sifus here can give further advise. Thank you.
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So.. are you buying a unit at Verde?
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QUOTE(abgkik @ Nov 16 2012, 11:47 AM)
it is unrealiable... I'm one of ex-Villamas purchaser.. the problem keep coming until warranty expired (after 18 month).. I have spent about RM30k ++ just to rectify my ex-unit (lucky to buyer) after the warranty expiry date.. I from zero knowlegde on house leaking become an expert already.. To investigate this matter, I have made survey on Villamas other completed project.. so yaaa... it's terible..

till now, other owners who dare not to spend like me still facing the problem.. even they need to call authority to check on this matter..

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haha, expert, im also expert in attending purchasers defect list since year 2004 until 2009. Almost vomit when heard about defect. Luckily i bought my 1st house stock and barrel, if not complaint to the developer kaw kaw.
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So.. are you buying a unit at Verde?
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Hi, I am thinking to go have a look this coming weekend. My thoughts is the pricing is reasonable with room for improvement in term of monetary/investment for the purchasers upon completion. Was thinking if bought can sell at approximately RM 750 psf upon completion. Well, fingers crossed. BUT, THAT IS MY TARGET... thumbup.gif
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Hi, I am thinking to go have a look this coming weekend. My thoughts is the pricing is reasonable with room for improvement in term of monetary/investment for the purchasers upon completion. Was thinking if bought can sell at approximately RM 750 psf upon completion. Well, fingers crossed. BUT, THAT IS MY TARGET... thumbup.gif
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How much is the unit u intend to purchase? Size and discount?

RM 750 psf upon completion can cover the multi cost of subsales S&P, agent fee, bank loan penalty and etc?


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haha, expert, im also expert in attending purchasers defect list since year 2004 until 2009. Almost vomit when heard about defect. Luckily i bought my 1st house stock and barrel, if not complaint to the developer kaw kaw.
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ha ha ha.. taiko.. are you the one hired by Villamas?
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ha ha ha.. taiko.. are you the one hired by Villamas?
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no lah, last time works as main con, need to hassle through the long 24 months DLP although attending defects was not part of my work scope. Because young and willing to learn, now i know a lot about defects, coordination, remedy and its cost. Potential building manager here wink.gif
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QUOTE(peri peri @ Nov 19 2012, 01:08 PM)
no lah, last time works as main con, need to hassle through the long 24 months DLP although attending defects was not part of my work scope. Because young and willing to learn, now i know a lot about defects, coordination, remedy and its cost. Potential building manager here  wink.gif
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wow....great, we have someone from the main con.....can you enlighten us a little.....someone mentioned the problems faced by atmosfera is due to the contractor not doing a good job. is that true? what is the cause of the poor quality? things like lift......what causes it to break down so easily?


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wow....great, we have someone from the main con.....can you enlighten us a little.....someone mentioned the problems faced by atmosfera is due to the contractor not doing a good job. is that true? what is the cause of the poor quality? things like lift......what causes it to break down so easily?
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if u ask me about SP Setia project like Setia Alam or Eco park, i can answer u. Im not main con for this atmosfera.

Lift, u need to check the brand of the lift. There are many brand out there, There are premium range, medium range and low range. There are germany made, or OEM from Taiwan or China. Lightning arrestor is the important factor to protect the lift. If not properly insulated, once strike, the control panel will burnt. And also how regular your JMB appoint the lift maintenance team for inspection and servicing. All these relate to cost and $.

Even my apartment is from Tan & Tan, doesnt means its perfect. Because they built it meant for compensate back to government on medium cost compliance, workmanship and quality, u know lah.
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Yeah, people got frustrated. Why? Because some developer repeatedly fails to rectify the issues faced by the purchasers.

Question is, does anyone have any idea how efficient has Villamas been? Yeah, I know because I experienced it. The answer is NOT VERY EFFICIENT at all. If they are so efficient, please ask them, as on late Oct, why there is no confirmed date to fix Atmosfera's elevators yet?

Please why only few months after handovers already got flooding problem in basement carpark and common corridor when it rains heavily? Why even the barbeque pit got issue?

I am not over generalizing. I speak with specifics. And why I dare to say all this without fearing libel lawsuit from Villamas? Because it is all true.

Actually i read about Villamas's shoddy workmanship before I purchased Atmosfera. I thought, this condo is their first venture into the higher-end market, so they will put in 110% to make sure this project is a success. Then they will have a good example to showcase when they market Serin, Zefer and Verde.

Well, I don't know how many % they put in in reality, but I know it is definitely NOT GOOD enough!

So what make anyone think they have learned their lesson?
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Hi cockee, I can feel your frustration too..

I am not sure how to put it, but with whatever defects at the common area which is identified at Atmosfera which is "just merely a fixable issue", some have been rectified (credits to Villamas)
But generally, I believe there are defects (there are also spoilt stuffs which are causing inconveniences and security concerns to residents) which are still not rectified since VP in May this year. Brandonho just mentioned that "does anyone have any idea how efficient has Villamas been, when it comes to rectifying defects and addressing resident's concerns", haha, this shows how efficient Villamas has been to their purchasers.

Is Villamas not serious and concern about their reputation? Well, to me, if current purchasers are given such treatment by Villamas, this gives me a doubt on how they are going to treat the purchasers of their new development. I might be "few out of the thousands" who are raising my concerns here, so my advice to people who are interested in this project to check out with purchasers of Atmosfera (or any other previous projects by Villamas) whether this developer is doing a good job in rectifying issues or "adopting a tidak-apa attitude"

Like abgkik, I am not stopping the people from buying. Good location and price anyways. Just beware!

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Is Villamas not serious and concern about their reputation? Well, to me, if current purchasers are given such treatment by Villamas, this gives me a doubt on how they are going to treat the purchasers of their new development. I might be "few out of the thousands" who are raising my concerns here, so my advice to people who are interested in this project to check out with purchasers of Atmosfera (or any other previous projects by Villamas) whether this developer is doing a good job in rectifying issues or "adopting a tidak-apa attitude"

Like abgkik, I am not stopping the people from buying. Good location and price anyways. Just beware!
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I know here is verde forum, but since everyone is talking abt atmosfera so i take this oppurtunity to ask those atmosfera owner.

Do you guys notice that, there is 3 big water pipe (blue and red) color infront of the lift of your floor?? The 3 pipe make me feel the condo so low cost... I wonder will villamas do something abt it?????

Its really ugly... Everytime i come out from the lift, i will shake my head when seeing those 3 pipes...
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Hi, I am thinking to go have a look this coming weekend. My thoughts is the pricing is reasonable with room for improvement in term of monetary/investment for the purchasers upon completion. Was thinking if bought can sell at approximately RM 750 psf upon completion. Well, fingers crossed. BUT, THAT IS MY TARGET... thumbup.gif
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I visited their sales office noon, surprisingly the sales is damn good , only left 9 unit which are below 4th floor and 2 unit on top floor (13th ), that is 95percentage within one week after launch . I am thinking of chnging my unit fr facing northwest to east but look like no choice.. I did mentioned abt this forum to them and hope they look seriously into the matter .. Anyway I feel happy on their sales . Hope their new block can sell well next month...
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QUOTE(Ed2506 @ Nov 19 2012, 10:06 PM)
I visited their sales office noon, surprisingly the sales is damn good , only left 9 unit which are below 4th floor and 2 unit on top floor (13th ), that is 95percentage within one week after launch . I am thinking of chnging my unit fr facing northwest to east but look like no choice.. I did mentioned abt this forum to them and hope they look seriously into the matter .. Anyway I feel happy on their sales . Hope their new block can sell well next month...
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They already know about this forum. One of their sales guy was defending Villamas like a hero. Anyways, good luck with ur unit.
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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Nov 19 2012, 12:15 PM)
How much is the unit u intend to purchase? Size and discount?

RM 750 psf upon completion can cover the multi cost of subsales S&P, agent fee, bank loan penalty and etc?
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ABOUT RM 200 gained psf wor. Off course sufficient to cover everything lor. rclxub.gif
I browsed thru verde website and noticed that the 1500sf layout is quite nice wor. Most probably will choose that one. Anyway, I shall see their show unit this coming Saturday. Let's see if I am happy with the finishing or not. icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(prop newbie @ Nov 19 2012, 11:22 PM)
ABOUT RM 200 gained psf wor. Off course sufficient to cover everything lor. rclxub.gif
I browsed thru verde website and noticed that the 1500sf layout is quite nice wor. Most probably will choose that one. Anyway, I shall see their show unit this coming Saturday. Let's see if I am happy with the finishing or not.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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The finishing in the showroom look good, just worry actual unit didnt follow show unit quality and standard .. Pls share yr comment after view the unit..
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QUOTE(prop newbie @ Nov 19 2012, 11:22 PM)
ABOUT RM 200 gained psf wor. Off course sufficient to cover everything lor. rclxub.gif
I browsed thru verde website and noticed that the 1500sf layout is quite nice wor. Most probably will choose that one. Anyway, I shall see their show unit this coming Saturday. Let's see if I am happy with the finishing or not.  icon_rolleyes.gif
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Ohh, if RM 200 psf gain, then sure can cover but based on the absolute price point, it may not easy bcz if RM 750 psf market, it would be min RM 990k onwards for a 1320 sq ft condo.

If this happen,I much predict it would be a good news for Isola buyers and any high end condos in Subang.

Hopefully Verde can prove us wrong on their workmanship / quality bcz they have 3 chances which Zefers and Serin would be complete ahead of Verde.

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post Nov 20 2012, 08:17 AM


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i think for ara damansara area to reach RM750psf on the secondary market could be a little tough not impossible.


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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Nov 20 2012, 01:30 AM)
Ohh, if RM 200 psf gain, then sure can cover but based on the absolute price point, it may not easy bcz if RM 750 psf market, it would be min RM 990k onwards for a 1320 sq ft condo.

If this happen,I much predict it would be a good news for Isola buyers and any high end condos in Subang.

Hopefully Verde can prove us wrong on their workmanship / quality bcz they have 3 chances which Zefers and Serin would be complete ahead of Verde.
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really hope verde can show everyone that , they can done a good job! So we would probably purchase their next project. smile.gif
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post Nov 20 2012, 01:56 PM


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Well, I do not think that target price at RM750 psf cannot be achieved in next 3 years. Ara Green already selling at RM800+psf.

Actually, today without wanting to wait further, I went to the sales office this noon. Finishing and the furnishing package is very attractive! Got free kitchen cabinet, hood and hob, food waste disposer, microwave built in oven, air-cond units and its green building!

But, too bad all nice units sold out. Now in waiting list for their new tower. Really missed the early boat to get a preferred unit at attractive price. Heard from sales person that they will certainly increase the price...
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QUOTE(milehigh group @ Nov 20 2012, 01:30 PM)
really hope verde can show everyone that , they can done a good job! So we would probably purchase their next project.  smile.gif
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dont worry... Villamas is realiable developer.

if you read back all the previous, its all about the finishing part.. not really big issue like abandon project or proj delay.
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QUOTE(prop newbie @ Nov 20 2012, 01:56 PM)
Well, I do not think that target price at RM750 psf cannot be achieved in next 3 years. Ara Green already selling at RM800+psf.

Actually, today without wanting to wait further, I went to the sales office this noon. Finishing and the furnishing package is very attractive! Got free kitchen cabinet, hood and hob, food waste disposer, microwave built in oven, air-cond units and its green building!

But, too bad all nice units sold out. Now in waiting list for their new tower. Really missed the early boat to get a preferred unit at attractive price. Heard from sales person that they will certainly increase the price...
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Well, its good that a vested buyer to be remain positive. But no matter Verde or any othrr project we buying, to enter at RM 550 psf and aiming tat RM 750 psf upon VP can be easily achieve is quite little ambitious, well, i'd say it remains possibility but not easy bcx plenty of new units available on 3-4 years time given recent number of new launches.

If I am vested into this, I target it at RM 660 psf which is abt 20% appre and consider pretty good bcz from RM 550 psf to RM 750 psf is a lot harder than RM 400 psf to RM 550 psf where both capp at 36.36% appreciation.

Unless another round of 2009-2012 feat which I'd say unlikely to repeat another song but as we all vested into any new properties, lets keep the finger cross.

Ara Green at RM 800+ psf is a benchmarking price for Verde, Nova Saujana and Hijauan Saujana but the sales too good doesnt mean it can be a good reapful project in VP time bcz I found most of the buyers of AG were Dr's frens and associates, and it require RM 1000 min psf in order to embark a strong demand to pull the buyers opt for Verde or any at RM 750 psf later on VP period.

However, a good location is a good location. I still tempted for landed in Ara Dsara instead bxz current highrise launches push up the prices look affordability.

Sorry maybe I am lil conservative bcz I am the 1 of the pool who prepare for the unexpected.






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Your tabulation is quite correct Chris! Even at RM660psf it still consider a hefty gains for those buying Verde. And, as long as a project does not get abandoned like the one at Ara Damansara is enough already. Hopefully the developer and contractor can do a better job for Verde.

Furthermore, the price of RM660psf can be easily achieved in view of those existing other project at Petaling Jaya which, easily can fetched RM700-RM800 psf. hmm.gif

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Landed 2 storey ara Damansara going For how much now
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QUOTE(prop newbie @ Nov 20 2012, 01:56 PM)
Well, I do not think that target price at RM750 psf cannot be achieved in next 3 years. Ara Green already selling at RM800+psf.

Actually, today without wanting to wait further, I went to the sales office this noon. Finishing and the furnishing package is very attractive! Got free kitchen cabinet, hood and hob, food waste disposer, microwave built in oven, air-cond units and its green building!

But, too bad all nice units sold out. Now in waiting list for their new tower. Really missed the early boat to get a preferred unit at attractive price. Heard from sales person that they will certainly increase the price...
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Yes. They told me maybe 10 to 15 % ..if it is true, after discount will be around 600pst . I think still many people will grab..
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Current ara hills n amaya at ara damansara stucked at sub rm500psf, no?
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Rental at ara hills
Rm2.9k For 14xx sq feet
Verde can expect higher?

http://www.mudah.my/Ara+Hill+CondoAra+Dama...or-18217364.htm
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Not to side Villamas, but they have good money flow. This is the main concern.
Info : from one of my fren consultant firm handling Villamas case.

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QUOTE(Chunkit9 @ Nov 20 2012, 02:23 PM)
dont worry... Villamas is realiable developer.

if you read back all the previous, its all about the finishing part.. not really big issue like abandon project or proj delay.
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Yes, I agree with you on this point that Villamas does not have this kind of issue...

However, it is not only the finishing is bad, but the quality of the basic facilities provided to the condo is terrible..
Just take for example, residents of Atmosfera can only remember how many months the lifts are down instead of how many 'days' the lifts are up..
There are families with children, pregnant ladies, senior citizens.. and they have been climbing stairs from the carpark basement floors..

QUOTE(gajian88 @ Nov 21 2012, 02:39 AM)
Not to side Villamas, but they have good money flow. This is the main concern.
Info : from one of my fren consultant firm handling Villamas case.
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Good cash flow and yet Villamas is not proactively addressing concerns of their purchasers..


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actually i experience before carrying my 3 years old daughter walk all the way down from 17th floor..



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QUOTE(gajian88 @ Nov 21 2012, 02:39 AM)
Not to side Villamas, but they have good money flow. This is the main concern.
Info : from one of my fren consultant firm handling Villamas case.
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It is not about the money flow.. It is about the product..
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QUOTE(abgkik @ Nov 21 2012, 03:52 PM)
It is not about the money flow.. It is about the product..
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big company with good money doesnt means they will generously use to provide top class quality. nod.gif
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