Verde @ ara damansara, by Villamas Sdn Bhd
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 Oct 19 2012, 10:58 PM, updated 14y ago
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Any news on this project? Was told RM600psf, size 1300-2100.
Villamas Sdn Bhd okay or not? Added on October 20, 2012, 6:44 pmVisited the neighbor, Ara Green today. The place was swamped with people. This place so good? This post has been edited by lunchtime: Oct 20 2012, 06:44 PM |
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Oct 21 2012, 12:10 AM
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Ara Green one of the best condo to be launched in 2012, in my opinion.
Not too sure about Verde. Too much negative comments about Villamas on their past records. The place, Ara Damansara good? U kidding me, it's only about 5 mins away from Tropicana & Bdr Utama. Good is an understatement. |
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Oct 21 2012, 02:43 AM
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Villamas got Do high end project?
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Oct 21 2012, 09:19 AM
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AraGreens close to 900psf. Verde next door around 600psf. BBB?
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Oct 21 2012, 09:23 AM
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QUOTE(bryan_x00 @ Oct 21 2012, 09:19 AM) AraGreens close to 900psf. Verde next door around 600psf. BBB?   thinking the same too  |
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Oct 23 2012, 09:26 AM
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seriously, if think about villawangsamas in wangsamaju,u will not buy this property.but 600psqft ? hmmm..quite tempting i guess.
called them up,but the SA said its the same developer..  will launch end of next month. This post has been edited by maryjane9996: Oct 23 2012, 09:31 AM |
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Oct 23 2012, 10:04 AM
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It's Villamas. VILLAMAS.
Talk to Atmosfera owners first to understand the quality of this developer. |
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Oct 23 2012, 10:07 AM
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QUOTE(maryjane9996 @ Oct 23 2012, 09:26 AM) seriously, if think about villawangsamas in wangsamaju,u will not buy this property.but 600psqft ? hmmm..quite tempting i guess. called them up,but the SA said its the same developer.. will launch end of next month. QUOTE(cockee @ Oct 23 2012, 10:04 AM) It's Villamas. VILLAMAS. They are not the same one, right?Talk to Atmosfera owners first to understand the quality of this developer. |
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Oct 23 2012, 10:09 AM
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This developer bukit the Serdang condos near tpm
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Oct 23 2012, 10:11 AM
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I believe its the same villamas. at least, related companies. ROC won't allow different companies using similar name.
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Oct 23 2012, 10:38 AM
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one of the best in terms of what, boss ?
in terms of design ? premium feel ? location ? concept ? not walking distance to LRT .. next to a 'river' ... definitely not pricing .. Oasis is still quite dead .. but Citta mall will have MBO cinema coming up .. so Verde will be sandwiched between Petronas and Ara Greens ?  QUOTE(HouseToLive @ Oct 21 2012, 12:10 AM) Ara Green one of the best condo to be launched in 2012, in my opinion. Not too sure about Verde. Too much negative comments about Villamas on their past records. The place, Ara Damansara good? U kidding me, it's only about 5 mins away from Tropicana & Bdr Utama. Good is an understatement. |
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Oct 23 2012, 12:36 PM
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seriously, if think about villawangsamas in wangsamaju,u will not buy this property.but 600psqft ? hmmm..quite tempting i guess.
called them up,but the SA said its NOT the same developer.. will launch end of next month. *sorry i miss the NOT. |
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Oct 23 2012, 01:11 PM
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again, becareful becos it s the same villamas that did atmosfera. confirmed on their website. I purchased atmosfera and it s a nightmare. 3 months after vp the most basic things like elevators still giving problems.
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Oct 23 2012, 01:58 PM
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it is the same loh !
http://star-micro.knorex.asia/static-prope...s_villamas.html  QUOTE(cockee @ Oct 23 2012, 01:11 PM) again, becareful becos it s the same villamas that did atmosfera. confirmed on their website. I purchased atmosfera and it s a nightmare. 3 months after vp the most basic things like elevators still giving problems. |
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Oct 24 2012, 10:31 PM
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how is this project? worth to buy?
after discount is about RM550 psf which is much much lower than aragreens at RM900 psf ara damansara seems like a good place to invest, and one tesco is coming up soon |
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Oct 31 2012, 12:29 PM
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yes, its the same developer that built low cost flat Atmosphere...
but they will not use the Atmosphere contractor for Verde, heard that they will use one of the top contractor for this job... lets wait and see which contractor get it... finger crossed... |
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Oct 31 2012, 12:36 PM
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QUOTE(Walaoeh! @ Oct 31 2012, 12:29 PM) yes, its the same developer that built low cost flat Atmosphere... Think it's not just the contractor but also the developer which as the contractor's client is supposed to manage the contractor n QC the quality together with the architect and surveyor appointed... but they will not use the Atmosphere contractor for Verde, heard that they will use one of the top contractor for this job... lets wait and see which contractor get it... finger crossed...  |
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Oct 31 2012, 01:07 PM
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QUOTE(CMW123 @ Oct 31 2012, 12:36 PM) Think it's not just the contractor but also the developer which as the contractor's client is supposed to manage the contractor n QC the quality together with the architect and surveyor appointed... this i totally agree with you...  |
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Nov 1 2012, 03:40 PM
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QUOTE(lunchtime @ Oct 21 2012, 10:23 AM) thinking the same too |
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Nov 1 2012, 04:19 PM
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QUOTE(888kb24 @ Oct 24 2012, 10:31 PM) how is this project? worth to buy? Aragreens at RM900 psf is for the 700 sq ft small units third block...after discount is about RM550 psf which is much much lower than aragreens at RM900 psf ara damansara seems like a good place to invest, and one tesco is coming up soon If compared apple to apple Verde 1383 sq ft with Aragreens 1,400 sq ft unit, Aragreen should be around RM700 psf... So it's RM550 psf vs RM700 psf based on Atmosfera standard vs Putra Perdana standard |
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Nov 1 2012, 07:45 PM
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at 400psf also I won't touch Villamas property. blaming the contractor is a sign of irresponsibility.
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Nov 1 2012, 07:55 PM
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I will never buy from this developer.. Good luck to Serin and Zefer buyer.. Never care about quality of their development, all problems... Kindly ask Villamas Apartment owner, that serdang apartment owner and atmosfera owner..
Leaking problem is normal on apartment or condo.. But with Villamas.. It's unbelievable... |
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Nov 2 2012, 07:51 AM
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QUOTE(abgkik @ Nov 1 2012, 07:55 PM) I will never buy from this developer.. Good luck to Serin and Zefer buyer.. Never care about quality of their development, all problems... Kindly ask Villamas Apartment owner, that serdang apartment owner and atmosfera owner.. Second that, horrible developer.Leaking problem is normal on apartment or condo.. But with Villamas.. It's unbelievable... |
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Nov 2 2012, 10:03 AM
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QUOTE(Soulsareworthless @ Nov 2 2012, 07:51 AM) Second that, horrible developer. Some many people mentioning the same thing, seems like cannot be ignored... |
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Nov 2 2012, 11:09 AM
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QUOTE(CMW123 @ Nov 2 2012, 10:03 AM) Some many people mentioning the same thing, seems like cannot be ignored... but many peoples don't care too  |
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Nov 2 2012, 12:18 PM
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Many people's dun care maybe they have no problem with the developer. Outside lots of development have problem also but the people didn't mentioned out so is consider no problem la.
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Nov 2 2012, 12:42 PM
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QUOTE(Darian28 @ Nov 2 2012, 12:18 PM) Many people's dun care maybe they have no problem with the developer. Outside lots of development have problem also but the people didn't mentioned out so is consider no problem la. LOL |
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Nov 2 2012, 02:19 PM
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VERDE @ Ara Damansara, Petaling Jaya,
iproperty - Verde @ Ara Damansara  Verde @ Ara Damansara offers a hotel-inspired living experience that speaks to nature lovers and those who truly appreciate privacy. Ara Damansara is becoming a coveted address for those who would like to live or invest in exclusive townships in Petaling Jaya. One key difference that one would notice almost immediately is the generous space, especially the roads. Another plus point is its location; Ara Damansara is one of the last parcels of freehold land in Petaling Jaya. It is located near the Sultan Abdul Aziz Shah Airport road and is in close proximity to the established residential and commercial areas of Tropicana, Damansara, Subang Jaya, Bandar Utama and Kelana Jaya. The township promotes easy accessibility via the New Klang Valley Expressway (NKVE), Lebuhraya Damansara-Puchong (LDP), New Pantai Expressway (NPE) and Federal Highway, while its rapidly expanding and improving infrastructure will further enhance its value and appeal. The township is still growing and will encompass approximately 4,000 units of various types of property in the next 4 years.  A Lovely Shade of Green Serenely tucked within Ara Damansara’s quiet neighbourhood, Verde @ Ara Damansara will speak to nature lovers and those who truly appreciate privacy. The development’s location is arguably subdued, yet well linked to many daily conveniences and indulgences. The word ‘Verde’ translates to ‘green’ in the Spanish, Portuguese, Italian and Romanian language. This namesake is largely reflected throughout the development’s grounds and in the units. Green initiatives within the units include the proposed installation of a rainwater harvesting system, Smart Home System that encourages a paperless environment, and the usage of low volatile organic compound (VOC) emitting materials such as paint, adhesive and sealants. Verde @ Ara Damansara will also include biological ponds that feature a range of proposed recreational amenities such as an active aqua life, herb garden and sky garden that are exclusively for its residents. The developer, Villamas, aims to achieve a gold star rating in accordance with the standards of the Green Building Index (GBI) for its environmental considerations.  Hotel-inspired Living Experience Verde @ Ara Damansara is built on 4.808 acres of freehold land and is conceptualised as service hotel suites, where the residents can benefit from the amenities and level of luxury expected of a contemporary hotel. The development will also feature a grand lobby and concierge. Emphasis is placed on producing a resort-like ambience, by incorporating environmental-friendly features such as lush tropical landscapes, gardens, water features, biological ponds, pools, cascades and artworks. Built-up sizes for the units range between 1,383 sq ft and 2,110 sq ft. Inward facing units will overlook the leisure facilities deck, while outward facing units will enjoy the vistas surrounding the plot (river, waterways and green network). The palette of colours and materials chosen is aimed at creating a warm and lavish atmosphere that is parallel to a top-notch hotel. The 13-storey serviced condominium houses a total of 409 units in 4 blocks. There will be 3 levels of basement car parks (with an estimated 1,050 car park lots for the residents), in addition to attractive amenities such as a nursery, observation deck, glass walled gym overlooking a crystalline infinity pool, reflective pond, half basketball court, yoga space, whirlpool, sky garden and function hall, among others. All these features and amenities are within a gated and guarded development, with a 3-tier security system to ensure a better peace of mind for the residents.  Verde @ Ara Damansara sales gallery tentatively will be ready for preview by mid of November and completed in January 2016. For details, call (603) 7728 6666 or (6012) 651 2355, or visit www.verde-aradamansara.com. About the Developer Villamas is established mid-size property developer with projects dating back to 1995. Since its first foray into property development in 2000, Villamas has experienced an outstanding growth rate that currently having ongoing and future developments exceeding RM1 billion in gross development value. Previous developments include Villa Park at Seri Kembangan, Villamas Apartment, Atmosfera Condominium at Puchong, and Bukit Kepong Baru. Other current projects include Serin Residency at Cyberjaya and Zefer Hill Residence in Puchong Jaya. |
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Nov 3 2012, 03:49 PM
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QUOTE(swisspalm @ Nov 2 2012, 02:19 PM) VERDE @ Ara Damansara, Petaling Jaya, Everything looks fine, just 1 issue.... Developer = Villamas iproperty - Verde @ Ara Damansara Verde @ Ara Damansara offers a hotel-inspired living experience that speaks to nature lovers and those who truly appreciate privacy. Ara Damansara is becoming a coveted address for those who would like to live or invest in exclusive townships in Petaling Jaya. One key difference that one would notice almost immediately is the generous space, especially the roads. Another plus point is its location; Ara Damansara is one of the last parcels of freehold land in Petaling Jaya. It is located near the Sultan Abdul Aziz Shah Airport road and is in close proximity to the established residential and commercial areas of Tropicana, Damansara, Subang Jaya, Bandar Utama and Kelana Jaya. The township promotes easy accessibility via the New Klang Valley Expressway (NKVE), Lebuhraya Damansara-Puchong (LDP), New Pantai Expressway (NPE) and Federal Highway, while its rapidly expanding and improving infrastructure will further enhance its value and appeal. The township is still growing and will encompass approximately 4,000 units of various types of property in the next 4 years. A Lovely Shade of Green Serenely tucked within Ara Damansara’s quiet neighbourhood, Verde @ Ara Damansara will speak to nature lovers and those who truly appreciate privacy. The development’s location is arguably subdued, yet well linked to many daily conveniences and indulgences. The word ‘Verde’ translates to ‘green’ in the Spanish, Portuguese, Italian and Romanian language. This namesake is largely reflected throughout the development’s grounds and in the units. Green initiatives within the units include the proposed installation of a rainwater harvesting system, Smart Home System that encourages a paperless environment, and the usage of low volatile organic compound (VOC) emitting materials such as paint, adhesive and sealants. Verde @ Ara Damansara will also include biological ponds that feature a range of proposed recreational amenities such as an active aqua life, herb garden and sky garden that are exclusively for its residents. The developer, Villamas, aims to achieve a gold star rating in accordance with the standards of the Green Building Index (GBI) for its environmental considerations. Hotel-inspired Living Experience Verde @ Ara Damansara is built on 4.808 acres of freehold land and is conceptualised as service hotel suites, where the residents can benefit from the amenities and level of luxury expected of a contemporary hotel. The development will also feature a grand lobby and concierge. Emphasis is placed on producing a resort-like ambience, by incorporating environmental-friendly features such as lush tropical landscapes, gardens, water features, biological ponds, pools, cascades and artworks. Built-up sizes for the units range between 1,383 sq ft and 2,110 sq ft. Inward facing units will overlook the leisure facilities deck, while outward facing units will enjoy the vistas surrounding the plot (river, waterways and green network). The palette of colours and materials chosen is aimed at creating a warm and lavish atmosphere that is parallel to a top-notch hotel. The 13-storey serviced condominium houses a total of 409 units in 4 blocks. There will be 3 levels of basement car parks (with an estimated 1,050 car park lots for the residents), in addition to attractive amenities such as a nursery, observation deck, glass walled gym overlooking a crystalline infinity pool, reflective pond, half basketball court, yoga space, whirlpool, sky garden and function hall, among others. All these features and amenities are within a gated and guarded development, with a 3-tier security system to ensure a better peace of mind for the residents. Verde @ Ara Damansara sales gallery tentatively will be ready for preview by mid of November and completed in January 2016. For details, call (603) 7728 6666 or (6012) 651 2355, or visit www.verde-aradamansara.com. About the Developer Villamas is established mid-size property developer with projects dating back to 1995. Since its first foray into property development in 2000, Villamas has experienced an outstanding growth rate that currently having ongoing and future developments exceeding RM1 billion in gross development value. Previous developments include Villa Park at Seri Kembangan, Villamas Apartment, Atmosfera Condominium at Puchong, and Bukit Kepong Baru. Other current projects include Serin Residency at Cyberjaya and Zefer Hill Residence in Puchong Jaya. |
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Nov 3 2012, 05:52 PM
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Priced advertised at min rm800k++ wor. But for how big?
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Nov 3 2012, 05:56 PM
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QUOTE(kochin @ Nov 3 2012, 05:52 PM) Priced advertised at min rm800k++ wor. But for how big? min build up 1300sqft... they claim they are not going for smaller build up as they think there are tonnes of supply for smaller units. The SA say they believe bigger units are more sustainable than small units wor.. (they say one, not I say) |
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Nov 3 2012, 06:02 PM
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Is it bare or with priced in freebies?
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Nov 3 2012, 06:05 PM
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QUOTE(kochin @ Nov 3 2012, 06:02 PM) Is it bare or with priced in freebies? not sure bro, they didnt reveal much.. but looking at current trend, likely they will giv i guess... |
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Nov 3 2012, 06:07 PM
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QUOTE(HouseToLive @ Oct 21 2012, 12:10 AM) Ara Green one of the best condo to be launched in 2012, in my opinion. 5 minutes away?Not too sure about Verde. Too much negative comments about Villamas on their past records. The place, Ara Damansara good? U kidding me, it's only about 5 mins away from Tropicana & Bdr Utama. Good is an understatement. Wow which road u take ah? |
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Nov 3 2012, 06:17 PM
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For those who are unfamiliar, IT IS indeed a mere 5 minutes to tropicana or bu.
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Nov 3 2012, 10:41 PM
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QUOTE(natzakaria @ Nov 3 2012, 06:07 PM) 5 minutes away? there's a shortcut to go tropicana from ara...Wow which road u take ah? |
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Nov 3 2012, 11:34 PM
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QUOTE(Walaoeh! @ Nov 3 2012, 10:41 PM) there's a shortcut to go tropicana from ara... Yes, very near pass by Damansara Lagenda n PJ Seafood... |
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Nov 4 2012, 02:42 AM
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Emmm...Leaking problem also seem happened in few project i visited before like Solace by SP Setia.
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Nov 4 2012, 04:53 PM
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their past project like atmosfera was done by their in house contractor, really bad workmanship.
but ever since serin and zefer, the in house contractor has been withdrawn. they are using external contractor now, should be much better |
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Nov 4 2012, 07:51 PM
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QUOTE(888kb24 @ Nov 4 2012, 04:53 PM) their past project like atmosfera was done by their in house contractor, really bad workmanship. I'm skeptical on both quality of the built & how this condo will be managed in the future. Buyers need to really hope Verde lives up to the 5 star luxury as painted.but ever since serin and zefer, the in house contractor has been withdrawn. they are using external contractor now, should be much better |
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Nov 6 2012, 04:14 PM
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Lesen is out --> Portal e-Home
Butir-butir Projek Nama Projek: VERDE@ARA DAMANSARA No. Fail: 12087-1 No. Lot: 1425 Negeri: SELANGOR No Akaun Pemaju Perumahan (HDA): 564801641038 Nama Bank(HDA): MAYBANK No. Lesen: 12087-1/07-2017/918 Tarikh Tamat Lesen: 11-07-2017 No. Permit: 12087-1/2483/2013(10) Tarikh Tamat Permit: 16-10-2013 Status Tanah: PEGANGAN BEBAS Maklumat Pemajuan Butiran Pembangunan Projek 1 Kategori Rumah HARGA TINGGI Jenis Rumah: PANGSAPURI SERVIS Bil Tingkat : 13 Bil Unit: 409 Harga Max: RM 1,500,000.00 Harga Piawai: RM 1,094,100.00 Harga Min: RM 806,200.00 |
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Nov 6 2012, 04:52 PM
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QUOTE(swisspalm @ Nov 6 2012, 04:14 PM) Lesen is out --> Portal e-Home that mean rm583/sqft for 1383sqft type before discount... Butir-butir Projek Nama Projek: VERDE@ARA DAMANSARA No. Fail: 12087-1 No. Lot: 1425 Negeri: SELANGOR No Akaun Pemaju Perumahan (HDA): 564801641038 Nama Bank(HDA): MAYBANK No. Lesen: 12087-1/07-2017/918 Tarikh Tamat Lesen: 11-07-2017 No. Permit: 12087-1/2483/2013(10) Tarikh Tamat Permit: 16-10-2013 Status Tanah: PEGANGAN BEBAS Maklumat Pemajuan Butiran Pembangunan Projek 1 Kategori Rumah HARGA TINGGI Jenis Rumah: PANGSAPURI SERVIS Bil Tingkat : 13 Bil Unit: 409 Harga Max: RM 1,500,000.00 Harga Piawai: RM 1,094,100.00 Harga Min: RM 806,200.00 |
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Nov 6 2012, 05:13 PM
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QUOTE(Walaoeh! @ Nov 6 2012, 04:52 PM) that mean rm583/sqft for 1383sqft type before discount... Very reasonable for Ara Damansara area...Nova Suajana recently launch should be above RM600 psf... |
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Nov 6 2012, 05:16 PM
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QUOTE(CMW123 @ Nov 6 2012, 05:13 PM) Very reasonable for Ara Damansara area...Nova Suajana recently launch should be above RM600 psf... did you check the following nearby available property prices?eg. oasis, puncak nusa kelana, ara hills, amaya, serai, etc. ? |
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Nov 6 2012, 05:28 PM
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QUOTE(kochin @ Nov 6 2012, 05:16 PM) did you check the following nearby available property prices? Oasis around RM650psf but small unitseg. oasis, puncak nusa kelana, ara hills, amaya, serai, etc. ? Ara Hill and Amaya around RM550 to RM600 but larger size than 1382 sq ft Serai much higher but consider luxury development Am i correct? |
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Nov 6 2012, 05:34 PM
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QUOTE(CMW123 @ Nov 6 2012, 05:28 PM) Oasis around RM650psf but small units i dunno, therefore i ask you mah.Ara Hill and Amaya around RM550 to RM600 but larger size than 1382 sq ft Serai much higher but consider luxury development Am i correct? to be more precise, someone once pointed out to me you need to calculate all existing stock at present value and count this verde to it's present worth for comparison. you left out puncak wor.... |
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Nov 6 2012, 06:05 PM
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Bro, my final warning.
This Verde is by Villamas. From personal experience, it's not worth the hassle. |
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Nov 6 2012, 10:38 PM
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QUOTE(kochin @ Nov 6 2012, 05:34 PM) i dunno, therefore i ask you mah. As for PNK, it's leasehold. Just sold my 1327sq unit at 382psf.to be more precise, someone once pointed out to me you need to calculate all existing stock at present value and count this verde to it's present worth for comparison. you left out puncak wor.... Added on November 6, 2012, 10:39 pm QUOTE(cockee @ Nov 6 2012, 06:05 PM) Bro, my final warning. Yeah, think trice.This Verde is by Villamas. From personal experience, it's not worth the hassle. This post has been edited by HouseToLive: Nov 6 2012, 10:55 PM |
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Nov 7 2012, 10:29 PM
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QUOTE(cockee @ Nov 6 2012, 06:05 PM) Bro, my final warning. Bro, do not worry too much.This Verde is by Villamas. From personal experience, it's not worth the hassle. As i said, they have changed the contractor totally, and the best thing is that one of my close friends is working in villamas and taking care of that project. That's why im totally not worried about it  This post has been edited by 888kb24: Nov 7 2012, 10:29 PM |
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Nov 8 2012, 02:41 AM
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QUOTE(888kb24 @ Nov 7 2012, 10:29 PM) Bro, do not worry too much. U bought it?As i said, they have changed the contractor totally, and the best thing is that one of my close friends is working in villamas and taking care of that project. That's why im totally not worried about it |
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Nov 8 2012, 11:21 AM
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QUOTE(888kb24 @ Nov 7 2012, 10:29 PM) Bro, do not worry too much. Blame it on the contractor? Dev should hold responsibility in delivering quality goods. Where's their QC bit from Villamas?!?As i said, they have changed the contractor totally, and the best thing is that one of my close friends is working in villamas and taking care of that project. That's why im totally not worried about it |
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Nov 8 2012, 11:43 AM
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Developer is the one who should hold and monitor the responsibility if the contractor is ba.
Selling stories, that they are using different contractor and blaming contractor is a Standard 1 kid story. This post has been edited by soraya.adam: Nov 8 2012, 11:44 AM |
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Nov 8 2012, 11:45 AM
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verde, soldout dy?
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Nov 8 2012, 11:52 AM
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Alvin, not even launch yet. You can open the website verde damansara and call their Sales Agent
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Nov 8 2012, 11:59 AM
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just curious to those who wish to buy this, why wouldn't they consider this instead?
http://www.iproperty.com.my/propertylistin...ominium_ForSale |
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Nov 8 2012, 12:19 PM
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i saw some ppl at their show room last week at ara.... i thought so many people there sure confirm they softbooked or purchase dy.... anyone here know whats happening at their show room last week ? quite a number of ppl there
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Nov 8 2012, 12:28 PM
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QUOTE(alvinchan81 @ Nov 8 2012, 12:19 PM) i saw some ppl at their show room last week at ara.... i thought so many people there sure confirm they softbooked or purchase dy.... anyone here know whats happening at their show room last week ? quite a number of ppl there Showroom is for Ara Green, not for Verde.Verde's show unit will be in TTDI plaza & will be ready for public viewing when they launch Verde soon. |
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Nov 8 2012, 01:07 PM
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QUOTE(kochin @ Nov 8 2012, 11:59 AM) just curious to those who wish to buy this, why wouldn't they consider this instead? Ara Hill is a very nice place but don't understand why that the price appreciation is not high...http://www.iproperty.com.my/propertylistin...ominium_ForSale |
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Nov 8 2012, 01:57 PM
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No studio like Ara greens?
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Nov 8 2012, 02:10 PM
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QUOTE(airline @ Nov 8 2012, 01:57 PM) No studio like Ara greens? No lah, minimum is 1,300 sq ft up so less "investors"Aragreens smallest size is 2 rooms, about 700 sq ft, not studio... |
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Nov 8 2012, 02:24 PM
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QUOTE(CMW123 @ Nov 8 2012, 03:10 PM) No lah, minimum is 1,300 sq ft up so less "investors" 684sqft the smallest with 2 rooms...Aragreens smallest size is 2 rooms, about 700 sq ft, not studio... |
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Nov 8 2012, 02:43 PM
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QUOTE(nevergonewrong @ Nov 8 2012, 02:24 PM) 684sqft the smallest with 2 rooms... 684sqft can fit 2 rooms? |
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Nov 8 2012, 02:49 PM
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QUOTE(Walaoeh! @ Nov 8 2012, 03:43 PM) 684sqft can fit 2 rooms? yes, if you get a hold of their layout/brochure. Got suprised when I stepped in the show unit as well! |
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Nov 8 2012, 03:01 PM
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Why you so interested in Ara Damansara. Do you know every working day the old subang airport highway had a massive traffic jam?
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Nov 8 2012, 03:14 PM
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QUOTE(Walaoeh! @ Nov 8 2012, 02:43 PM) 684sqft can fit 2 rooms? With 1 washroom...Surprisingly does not feel small for this size as per what can be seen at the show room This post has been edited by CMW123: Nov 8 2012, 03:16 PM |
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Nov 8 2012, 03:16 PM
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QUOTE(CMW123 @ Nov 8 2012, 04:14 PM) With 1 washroom... +1Surprisingly does not feel small for this size as per what can be seen at the show room |
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Nov 8 2012, 03:17 PM
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QUOTE(soraya.adam @ Nov 8 2012, 03:01 PM) Why you so interested in Ara Damansara. Do you know every working day the old subang airport highway had a massive traffic jam? DA considered nice area and RICH man area, right? |
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Nov 8 2012, 04:32 PM
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QUOTE(CMW123 @ Nov 8 2012, 03:17 PM) DA considered nice area and RICH man area, right? A place with bangalows at the price range of 8mil plus the demographics of the people living in that area, yes u can say tht again. |
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Nov 8 2012, 05:10 PM
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ok who interested in verde can go for preview this sunday, 11Nov
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Nov 9 2012, 10:54 AM
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QUOTE(CMW123 @ Nov 8 2012, 05:10 PM) ok who interested in verde can go for preview this sunday, 11Nov Its not preview, Its the LAUNCH.I tot people who register only get invited. Here also got open invitation? Why register then. |
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Nov 11 2012, 02:27 PM
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anyone's going? pls update us...
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Nov 11 2012, 03:03 PM
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QUOTE(nevergonewrong @ Nov 11 2012, 02:27 PM) anyone's going? pls update us... ahh... i forgot to go... now i remember |
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Nov 11 2012, 03:09 PM
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Got another developer beside this villamas going to launch
Nearby |
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Nov 11 2012, 03:09 PM
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Plaza TTDI la, at Taman Tun there
Added on November 11, 2012, 3:10 pm QUOTE(airline @ Nov 11 2012, 03:09 PM) Got another developer beside this villamas going to launch Ara Green is it?Nearby Just now i check there, only left 800k / 900k. Crazy. This post has been edited by soraya.adam: Nov 11 2012, 03:10 PM |
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Nov 11 2012, 03:38 PM
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QUOTE(twincharger07 @ Nov 11 2012, 04:03 PM) ahh... i forgot to go... now i remember the BU size is large, that's y i dont bother to go..Added on November 11, 2012, 3:39 pm QUOTE(soraya.adam @ Nov 11 2012, 04:09 PM) Plaza TTDI la, at Taman Tun there was there 2 weeks back, there was 1 on hold for the smallest size...but dont think that is still available now...but yeah pricing was a little bit steepAdded on November 11, 2012, 3:10 pm Ara Green is it? Just now i check there, only left 800k / 900k. Crazy. This post has been edited by nevergonewrong: Nov 11 2012, 03:39 PM |
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Nov 11 2012, 03:47 PM
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QUOTE(nevergonewrong @ Nov 11 2012, 03:38 PM) the BU size is large, that's y i dont bother to go.. Ya hoh. Ara Damansara is dead la. Need more pubs, pubs and pubs.Added on November 11, 2012, 3:39 pm was there 2 weeks back, there was 1 on hold for the smallest size...but dont think that is still available now...but yeah pricing was a little bit steep I wonder the Ara Green SA just now is Malay or Philippines because he keep speaks English to me, with very 'deep' accent especially the R pronunciation. |
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Nov 11 2012, 03:55 PM
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QUOTE(soraya.adam @ Nov 11 2012, 04:47 PM) Ya hoh. Ara Damansara is dead la. Need more pubs, pubs and pubs. Yeah there was one. So your bullet park where then?I wonder the Ara Green SA just now is Malay or Philippines because he keep speaks English to me, with very 'deep' accent especially the R pronunciation. |
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Nov 11 2012, 03:57 PM
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Was at Verde sales office
At 3.00 pm, 80% booked Psf less than RM550, OMG!!! |
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Nov 11 2012, 04:02 PM
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QUOTE(CMW123 @ Nov 11 2012, 04:57 PM) Was at Verde sales office At 3.00 pm, 80% booked Psf less than RM550, OMG!!! QUOTE(abgkik @ Nov 2 2012, 12:09 PM) but many peoples don't care too |
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Nov 11 2012, 04:14 PM
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It's cheap la.
1320 * 550 = 726k. Cheap and huge too! Added on November 11, 2012, 4:15 pm QUOTE(nevergonewrong @ Nov 11 2012, 03:55 PM) Yeah there was one. So your bullet park where then? I think i'll park mine into Glenmarie Park. Got KDU beside there.Added on November 11, 2012, 4:15 pm QUOTE(nevergonewrong @ Nov 11 2012, 03:55 PM) Yeah there was one. So your bullet park where then? I think i'll park mine into Glenmarie Park. Got KDU beside there.This post has been edited by soraya.adam: Nov 11 2012, 04:15 PM |
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Nov 11 2012, 06:01 PM
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Was at the show unit & not impressed w The Verde. Ara Green is going to turn it into an ugly neighbour. Sorry.
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Nov 11 2012, 06:37 PM
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QUOTE(HouseToLive @ Nov 11 2012, 06:01 PM) Was at the show unit & not impressed w The Verde. Ara Green is going to turn it into an ugly neighbour. Sorry. Can share reasons why not impressed? Price was attractive rite? |
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Nov 11 2012, 07:46 PM
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QUOTE(CMW123 @ Nov 11 2012, 06:37 PM) Can share reasons why not impressed? Price was attractive rite? I think it looked too normal compared to Ara Green. Feels like any other condo out there. As for the price, I guess u get wht u pay for.This post has been edited by HouseToLive: Nov 11 2012, 07:47 PM |
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Nov 11 2012, 08:45 PM
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the design a lil bit conservative..but for bumi,verde price is at RM500psqft..but the smallest is 1382..thinking to move my horse to verde..
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Nov 11 2012, 08:49 PM
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QUOTE(maryjane9996 @ Nov 11 2012, 08:45 PM) the design a lil bit conservative..but for bumi,verde price is at RM500psqft..but the smallest is 1382..thinking to move my horse to verde.. Smallest units of 2 blocks all sold out. R u one of the buyer? Or wait for Block B & C next mth. |
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Nov 11 2012, 08:50 PM
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QUOTE(HouseToLive @ Nov 11 2012, 07:46 PM) I think it looked too normal compared to Ara Green. Feels like any other condo out there. As for the price, I guess u get wht u pay for. Villamas are never well known for innovation.. from Villamas to Villa Pavillion to villa Park to Atmosfera to Serin to Zefer Hills, other than giving discount n DIBS, nothing special but just a normal apartmen/condo.. dated facade with normal concept n facilities.. |
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Nov 11 2012, 08:52 PM
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QUOTE(HouseToLive @ Nov 11 2012, 08:49 PM) Smallest units of 2 blocks all sold out. R u one of the buyer? Or wait for Block B & C next mth. err..the SA agent told me theres 2 more unit 1382 left..but i prefer the 1500sqft at 700k after discount since got bathtub.not sure yet,will take a week at least to decide.then if theres still available,book lo..got smarthome and balcony. |
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Nov 11 2012, 08:53 PM
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QUOTE(twincharger07 @ Nov 11 2012, 08:50 PM) Villamas are never well known for innovation.. from Villamas to Villa Pavillion to villa Park to Atmosfera to Serin to Zefer Hills, other than giving discount n DIBS, nothing special but just a normal apartmen/condo.. dated facade with normal concept n facilities.. Also, cross ur fingers on the quality of the build & finishing. Buyers do ur research on their previous projects. |
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Nov 11 2012, 09:01 PM
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QUOTE(HouseToLive @ Nov 11 2012, 08:53 PM) Also, cross ur fingers on the quality of the build & finishing. Buyers do ur research on their previous projects. yup..and thats the only thing hold me back to put dp just now.but SA said,they change the contractor n architect already.hmmm. |
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Nov 11 2012, 09:04 PM
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QUOTE(maryjane9996 @ Nov 11 2012, 09:01 PM) yup..and thats the only thing hold me back to put dp just now.but SA said,they change the contractor n architect already.hmmm. tat means they admit that their previous projects were pretty sucky..? |
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Nov 11 2012, 09:04 PM
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QUOTE(maryjane9996 @ Nov 11 2012, 09:01 PM) yup..and thats the only thing hold me back to put dp just now.but SA said,they change the contractor n architect already.hmmm. yes you are right. booked mine |
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Nov 11 2012, 09:06 PM
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QUOTE(maryjane9996 @ Nov 11 2012, 09:01 PM) yup..and thats the only thing hold me back to put dp just now.but SA said,they change the contractor n architect already.hmmm. Easy to name scapegoat & it's so lame. |
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Nov 11 2012, 09:09 PM
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QUOTE(maryjane9996 @ Nov 11 2012, 08:52 PM) err..the SA agent told me theres 2 more unit 1382 left..but i prefer the 1500sqft at 700k after discount since got bathtub.not sure yet,will take a week at least to decide.then if theres still available,book lo..got smarthome and balcony. 1500 sq ft close to rm800k or more rite? Got rm700k? |
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Nov 11 2012, 09:10 PM
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QUOTE(twincharger07 @ Nov 11 2012, 09:04 PM) tat means they admit that their previous projects were pretty sucky..? indirectly,yes i guess.i was complaining about the zefer(even tho im not one of the buyer)..thats what she said to me.QUOTE(888kb24 @ Nov 11 2012, 09:04 PM) yes you are right. booked mine how u know it just not a marketing gimmick ? hmmm.. QUOTE(HouseToLive @ Nov 11 2012, 09:06 PM) Easy to name scapegoat & it's so lame. but their price really attractive to compare with their neighbour and nova saujana.more than Rm100psqft difference wor..easily 100k. |
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Nov 11 2012, 09:13 PM
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QUOTE(maryjane9996 @ Nov 11 2012, 09:10 PM) indirectly,yes i guess.i was complaining about the zefer(even tho im not one of the buyer)..thats what she said to me. The choice is urs friend. I'd take my bullet elsewhere.how u know it just not a marketing gimmick ? hmmm.. but their price really attractive to compare with their neighbour and nova saujana.more than Rm100psqft difference wor..easily 100k. |
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Nov 11 2012, 09:20 PM
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[quote=maryjane9996,Nov 11 2012, 09:10 PM]
indirectly,yes i guess.i was complaining about the zefer(even tho im not one of the buyer)..thats what she said to me. But zefer not yet VP wor??? |
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Nov 11 2012, 09:37 PM
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Heard many complains about Atmosfera (next to Zefer) which is built by the same developer?
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Nov 11 2012, 10:11 PM
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QUOTE(maryjane9996 @ Nov 11 2012, 09:10 PM) indirectly,yes i guess.i was complaining about the zefer(even tho im not one of the buyer)..thats what she said to me. as i posted in this thread before, a close friend of mine is handling this project.how u know it just not a marketing gimmick ? hmmm.. but their price really attractive to compare with their neighbour and nova saujana.more than Rm100psqft difference wor..easily 100k. and yes, since zefer onwards, they have changed their contractor. past projects were all constructed by their own in house contractor, zefer and verde will not be. that's the reason im willing to spend RM700k+ to get an unit for my own stay in future |
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Nov 11 2012, 10:21 PM
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QUOTE(888kb24 @ Nov 11 2012, 10:11 PM) as i posted in this thread before, a close friend of mine is handling this project. ermmm.... if own developer cannot control the quality, what makes you think hiring external contractor can do a better job?and yes, since zefer onwards, they have changed their contractor. past projects were all constructed by their own in house contractor, zefer and verde will not be. that's the reason im willing to spend RM700k+ to get an unit for my own stay in future take a look at most of those so called good quality developers and check whether they are constructed by in house team or outsourced. |
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Nov 11 2012, 10:21 PM
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How about Serin? Are they using in house contractor or outside contractor.
Kind of funny. If villamas cannot even manage their in house contractor, how can we have confident that they can manage other contractor. Changing of contractor does not neccessary means good. Change for worse o better? yet to be seen, lets c. |
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Nov 11 2012, 11:22 PM
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Sigh, people never listen. Read back this forum in 3 yrs time and realised u hv been warned back then.
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Nov 12 2012, 09:04 AM
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QUOTE(HouseToLive @ Nov 11 2012, 11:22 PM) Sigh, people never listen. Read back this forum in 3 yrs time and realised u hv been warned back then. Haha chill bro. I am sure some of the Villamas purchasers here had factor in and due to personal specific reasons, they go for it. Another anor group must be first time buyer who never had experienced with this developer's below par quality. Anor fren of my, ask opinion from me abt this dev product and against 3-4 more projects. Aftr my advise, he still die die go to book this even he expected this might be a not so great expectation or diff ending compare to previous projects. |
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Nov 12 2012, 10:06 AM
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actually bro .. u'd be surprised ..
i met a few Villamas repeat buyers .. all made money in Atmosfera, and all buying into Verde because they think its of good value plus they get additional 1.5% (??) repeat buyer discount ... when I asked them about all the complains on workmanship, etc they said their phase wasn't affected and it affected some other phases ? guess not all are rotten .. it was quite a BBB madhouse ... the SAs were working overtime printing out the booking forms .. a la Tropicana Gardens and Skypod .. not like Metropark though, that was rather cold compared to this  QUOTE(HouseToLive @ Nov 11 2012, 11:22 PM) Sigh, people never listen. Read back this forum in 3 yrs time and realised u hv been warned back then. |
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Nov 12 2012, 10:08 AM
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I stayed at villa pavilion before, it is one of the project developed by Villamas. I can tell you the quality and material that they used is totally not acceptable. Management is 1 of the BIG problem there as well.. please think twice before you buy from this developer!!
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Nov 12 2012, 10:12 AM
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QUOTE(imprezaWRX @ Nov 12 2012, 10:06 AM) actually bro .. u'd be surprised .. i m also Vcard member, 1.5% could potentially 10k discount which is not a bad deal,, i didnt go to the preview, likely ppl buying into ara damansara address,,, whoever bought few years also make $ even for some shitty projects also appreciatei met a few Villamas repeat buyers .. all made money in Atmosfera, and all buying into Verde because they think its of good value plus they get additional 1.5% (??) repeat buyer discount ... when I asked them about all the complains on workmanship, etc they said their phase wasn't affected and it affected some other phases ? guess not all are rotten .. it was quite a BBB madhouse ... the SAs were working overtime printing out the booking forms .. a la Tropicana Gardens and Skypod .. not like Metropark though, that was rather cold compared to this |
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Nov 12 2012, 10:59 AM
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Recent launch in Ara Damansara:
Nova Suajana - RM600 psf up for > 1200 sq ft unit Medalla, Sime Darby - RM700psf for > 1000 sq ft units Aragreens - RM750psf for big units > 1200 sq ft units Sime Darby is land owner, Malton must have bought the Nova Suajana land long time ago with Amaya so land cost are low Wonder when did Villamas buy their land? If they are selling at less than RM550 psf n if land cost is on high side, what is the level of quality they can deliver?? Somemore only 409 units? Really wonder... This post has been edited by CMW123: Nov 12 2012, 11:00 AM |
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Nov 12 2012, 11:07 AM
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developer is 1 thing but the location also another thing..
to me, ara damansara still very dead place.. dont really dare to invest on it.. |
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Nov 12 2012, 11:53 AM
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QUOTE(Chunkit9 @ Nov 12 2012, 11:07 AM) developer is 1 thing but the location also another thing.. IMHO, +1to me, ara damansara still very dead place.. dont really dare to invest on it.. |
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Nov 12 2012, 11:56 AM
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i work at ara damansara, not sure about the developer, but location is very good. Its as good as staying in tropicana (location wise of course)
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Nov 12 2012, 12:18 PM
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QUOTE(HolyHuman2000 @ Nov 12 2012, 11:56 AM) i work at ara damansara, not sure about the developer, but location is very good. Its as good as staying in tropicana (location wise of course) do you mind to share why you say is good? |
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Nov 12 2012, 12:38 PM
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QUOTE(Chunkit9 @ Nov 12 2012, 12:18 PM) do you mind to share why you say is good? this verde forum is in a tug of wall. please look back at the postings la, we r repeating ourselves.sub standard developer also got fans. all they can do is give good discounts but not good finishing... sigh. btw, this is not about the gr8 ara d'sara. |
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Nov 12 2012, 01:23 PM
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actually .. on the contrary .. I'm quite bullish on Ara ..
yes the current environment quite bleak .. - Oasis is like dead duck not happening, same goes for Citta mall - the Taipan commercials dead, like no life - surrounded on one side by small industrial area ... - daily jam on the Subang airport highway but, bear in mind - this is the last border of PJ/Shah Alam dy, which gives you a PJ postcode .. Oasis investor, too bad for you .. you went in too early .. what's in the pipeline : short term : - opening of cinema MBO in Citta Mall - perhaps a catalyst to bring in some life to this dead mall medium term: - Pacific Place commercial area, with integrated commercial + LRT stop - confirmed new college coming ? based on their GRR plan (http://www.mudah.my/Jazz+Residence+Pacific+Place+Ara+Damansara+-18410674.htm) - Sime Plantations + Sime Motor to move there ~ long term plan - Tesco - still happening ? as mentioned earlier, projects in the pipeline : Nova Saujana Ara Greens Verde Pacific Place Hijauan Saujana and with Kencana Square at RM700psf++ , albeit a worst of location (IMHO) ... this is your last call before Ara takes off .. Ara needs mass population .. right now its daed quiet because of the low density of the whole area ... oh well, in desperate need of catalyst ... so it all depends on where you want to be my friends .. you want to be where it is, after it has boom , or you want to be there before it booms (famous puncline used by all property salesmen) .. bear in mind, I'm vested in the area  QUOTE(MoneyTree88 @ Nov 12 2012, 12:38 PM) this verde forum is in a tug of wall. please look back at the postings la, we r repeating ourselves. sub standard developer also got fans. all they can do is give good discounts but not good finishing... sigh. btw, this is not about the gr8 ara d'sara. |
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Nov 12 2012, 02:34 PM
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QUOTE(imprezaWRX @ Nov 12 2012, 01:23 PM) actually .. on the contrary .. I'm quite bullish on Ara .. what nonsense r u uttering here. u r not THE ONLY ONE vested here. some of us already started a decade ago.yes the current environment quite bleak .. - Oasis is like dead duck not happening, same goes for Citta mall - the Taipan commercials dead, like no life - surrounded on one side by small industrial area ... - daily jam on the Subang airport highway but, bear in mind - this is the last border of PJ/Shah Alam dy, which gives you a PJ postcode .. Oasis investor, too bad for you .. you went in too early .. what's in the pipeline : short term : - opening of cinema MBO in Citta Mall - perhaps a catalyst to bring in some life to this dead mall medium term: - Pacific Place commercial area, with integrated commercial + LRT stop - confirmed new college coming ? based on their GRR plan (http://www.mudah.my/Jazz+Residence+Pacific+Place+Ara+Damansara+-18410674.htm) - Sime Plantations + Sime Motor to move there ~ long term plan - Tesco - still happening ? as mentioned earlier, projects in the pipeline : Nova Saujana Ara Greens Verde Pacific Place Hijauan Saujana and with Kencana Square at RM700psf++ , albeit a worst of location (IMHO) ... this is your last call before Ara takes off .. Ara needs mass population .. right now its daed quiet because of the low density of the whole area ... oh well, in desperate need of catalyst ... so it all depends on where you want to be my friends .. you want to be where it is, after it has boom , or you want to be there before it booms (famous puncline used by all property salesmen) .. bear in mind, I'm vested in the area this is the verde topic, STICK TO IT! |
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Nov 12 2012, 02:49 PM
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i heard that the architect for Verde is http://www.archicentre.com.my/
but cant find Verde in this website, so not sure if this is true... |
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Nov 12 2012, 03:02 PM
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geeesh, somebody woke up on the wrong side of bed ?
I'm just replying the guy who said Ara Damansara area is dead ... what's your beef ... didn't get laid isit QUOTE(MoneyTree88 @ Nov 12 2012, 02:34 PM) what nonsense r u uttering here. u r not THE ONLY ONE vested here. some of us already started a decade ago. this is the verde topic, STICK TO IT! |
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Nov 12 2012, 03:09 PM
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QUOTE(imprezaWRX @ Nov 12 2012, 03:02 PM) geeesh, somebody woke up on the wrong side of bed ? The Verde, The Topic period. I'm just replying the guy who said Ara Damansara area is dead ... what's your beef ... didn't get laid isit I guess tht's what he meant, hahahaha |
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Nov 12 2012, 03:15 PM
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jangan gaduh la... everyone here is just discuss about Verde project, the developer Villamas history and aso the location tat not sure if good or not...
sharing info is OK.. buying or investing a Condo project need to know alot of things like Developer history, the location wise and lots more... This post has been edited by Chunkit9: Nov 12 2012, 03:15 PM |
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Nov 12 2012, 03:23 PM
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haha, i think imprezaWRX is sharing some good info about the surrounding lah...
btw, I wonder how is the property around this area (especially condo) appreciates over the past few years? can someone share? Also, it seems there are quite a lot of mid sized double-storey linked house selling at rm 800k - 1 mil range, translating into <RM500 per sq ft... I know it is different market and I may be comparing apple to orange... but just wondering if there will be any upside for this condo... |
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Nov 12 2012, 04:27 PM
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QUOTE(MoneyTree88 @ Nov 12 2012, 02:34 PM) what nonsense r u uttering here. u r not THE ONLY ONE vested here. some of us already started a decade ago. wow moneytree, ppl here trying to offer good info, and u just simply claim it is nonsense and shoot them down. If u don't know how to appreciate forummers sharing info, or just don't understand what is happening, think twice before typing any sort of reply on any forum threads.this is the verde topic, STICK TO IT! what more do you expect to read in a thread about a project that hasn't even started construction?? Of course there will be thorough discussion about location! Its one of the most important things when deciding to purchase a house! Or are you those type that buy properties based on how many free aircond you get? |
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Nov 12 2012, 04:41 PM
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keke sorry guys, got carried away ...
the current large units Amaya n Ara Hills not doing that great .. around RM500psf subsale price .. although sellers askign for RM600psf .. whilst Puncak Seri Kelana is asking for RM350psf .. thereabouts .. i believe AD lacks critical mass + some form of catalyst to boom .. Citta by virtue of its odd layout, is not doing a great job .. perhaps the cinema will lead the way ... but I do foresee the LRT extension as one of the catalyst .. the likes of Seri Pilmoor or Serai will not boost anything - because the owners will most probably prefer a low density, uncrowded neighbourhood .. QUOTE(dongding @ Nov 12 2012, 03:23 PM) haha, i think imprezaWRX is sharing some good info about the surrounding lah... btw, I wonder how is the property around this area (especially condo) appreciates over the past few years? can someone share? Also, it seems there are quite a lot of mid sized double-storey linked house selling at rm 800k - 1 mil range, translating into <RM500 per sq ft... I know it is different market and I may be comparing apple to orange... but just wondering if there will be any upside for this condo... |
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Nov 12 2012, 04:47 PM
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QUOTE(HolyHuman2000 @ Nov 12 2012, 04:27 PM) wow moneytree, ppl here trying to offer good info, and u just simply claim it is nonsense and shoot them down. If u don't know how to appreciate forummers sharing info, or just don't understand what is happening, think twice before typing any sort of reply on any forum threads. what more do you expect to read in a thread about a project that hasn't even started construction?? Of course there will be thorough discussion about location! Its one of the most important things when deciding to purchase a house! Or are you those type that buy properties based on how many free aircond you get? Chill guyz... Let's continue the talk.Any other condos that interests u guyz, besides those 2 in Ara of course. |
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Nov 12 2012, 05:05 PM
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QUOTE(imprezaWRX @ Nov 12 2012, 01:23 PM) actually .. on the contrary .. I'm quite bullish on Ara .. thanks for the great info. yes the current environment quite bleak .. - Oasis is like dead duck not happening, same goes for Citta mall - the Taipan commercials dead, like no life - surrounded on one side by small industrial area ... - daily jam on the Subang airport highway but, bear in mind - this is the last border of PJ/Shah Alam dy, which gives you a PJ postcode .. Oasis investor, too bad for you .. you went in too early .. what's in the pipeline : short term : - opening of cinema MBO in Citta Mall - perhaps a catalyst to bring in some life to this dead mall medium term: - Pacific Place commercial area, with integrated commercial + LRT stop - confirmed new college coming ? based on their GRR plan (http://www.mudah.my/Jazz+Residence+Pacific+Place+Ara+Damansara+-18410674.htm) - Sime Plantations + Sime Motor to move there ~ long term plan - Tesco - still happening ? as mentioned earlier, projects in the pipeline : Nova Saujana Ara Greens Verde Pacific Place Hijauan Saujana and with Kencana Square at RM700psf++ , albeit a worst of location (IMHO) ... this is your last call before Ara takes off .. Ara needs mass population .. right now its daed quiet because of the low density of the whole area ... oh well, in desperate need of catalyst ... so it all depends on where you want to be my friends .. you want to be where it is, after it has boom , or you want to be there before it booms (famous puncline used by all property salesmen) .. bear in mind, I'm vested in the area  i personally see the lrt extension would push the neighbourhood price.. |
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Nov 12 2012, 05:16 PM
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Good points. I agree with you and I feel that lrt will be the Main catalyst....Cinema will help a bit but given the nature of the Citta mall layout and concept I guess it is hard to revive it too much. The SD mixed dev and PP will also contribute to bring in some crowd, but the question is how long this will take before we see a more vibrant &happening township there.
Wow,.. At that subsale price of ara hills, It seems the current verde and ara greens Price may be a bit too steep, some more given the dev's background...hmmm QUOTE(imprezaWRX @ Nov 12 2012, 04:41 PM) keke sorry guys, got carried away ... This post has been edited by dongding: Nov 12 2012, 05:22 PMthe current large units Amaya n Ara Hills not doing that great .. around RM500psf subsale price .. although sellers askign for RM600psf .. whilst Puncak Seri Kelana is asking for RM350psf .. thereabouts .. i believe AD lacks critical mass + some form of catalyst to boom .. Citta by virtue of its odd layout, is not doing a great job .. perhaps the cinema will lead the way ... but I do foresee the LRT extension as one of the catalyst .. the likes of Seri Pilmoor or Serai will not boost anything - because the owners will most probably prefer a low density, uncrowded neighbourhood .. |
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Nov 13 2012, 11:08 AM
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QUOTE(dongding @ Nov 12 2012, 05:16 PM) Good points. I agree with you and I feel that lrt will be the Main catalyst....Cinema will help a bit but given the nature of the Citta mall layout and concept I guess it is hard to revive it too much. The SD mixed dev and PP will also contribute to bring in some crowd, but the question is how long this will take before we see a more vibrant &happening township there. citta mall layout a lil bit weird..but its good they have chillis and few other famous restaurant over there.Wow,.. At that subsale price of ara hills, It seems the current verde and ara greens Price may be a bit too steep, some more given the dev's background...hmmm when ? i think right after the lrt extension complete 2014 and skypark will be a hub for MRO 2015.. for me i think ara green price is quite expensive,verde reasonable price despite the developer history,nova just right in the middle..ara hills pricing around rm520psqft. |
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Nov 13 2012, 11:14 AM
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Jazz residence at Pacific Place maybe a better option as it has guarantee return of 3,600 per month. They are renting the condo to students for SEGI College and it is mentioned in their website that one unit can comfortably fit 6 students. Also villamas the developer of Verde has many negative comments.
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Nov 13 2012, 11:16 AM
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QUOTE(charlieboy61 @ Nov 13 2012, 11:14 AM) Jazz residence at Pacific Place maybe a better option as it has guarantee return of 3,600 per month. They are renting the condo to students for SEGI College and it is mentioned in their website that one unit can comfortably fit 6 students. Also villamas the developer of Verde has many negative comments. ya..but the mark up the price already..unless u the buyer of bloack abcd. |
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Nov 13 2012, 01:01 PM
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QUOTE(maryjane9996 @ Nov 13 2012, 11:16 AM) ya..but the mark up the price already..unless u the buyer of bloack abcd. Missed the earlier opportunity. |
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Nov 14 2012, 12:50 AM
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Tesco is most likely approved under Sime Darby's Ara Damansara Shopping Mall. (u know why? lol)
SEGi is the college at Pacific Place, if not mistaken. Future Pacific Place Mall will have a new anchor tenant. Sime Darby Plantation has relocated to Ara. Ara just have to wait for LRT and proposed new ramps to connect to heartland. |
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Nov 14 2012, 10:27 AM
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anyone bought verde here?
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Nov 14 2012, 11:43 PM
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QUOTE(dinox @ Nov 14 2012, 10:27 AM) anyone bought verde here? I have booked a unit during launching , all facing northeast and southeast fully sold. Had canceled hijauan saujana. Hope I have made the correct decision .Added on November 14, 2012, 11:46 pm QUOTE(Ed2506 @ Nov 14 2012, 11:43 PM) I have booked a unit during launching , all facing northeast and southeast fully sold. Had canceled hijauan saujana. Hope I have made the correct decision Heard fr the SA that next month will launch new Block which is bigger size but 10 to 15percentage increase in price.. .This post has been edited by Ed2506: Nov 14 2012, 11:46 PM |
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Nov 15 2012, 12:02 AM
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guyz... go and view villamas project... Atmosfera Kondominium
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Nov 15 2012, 12:16 AM
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QUOTE(Ed2506 @ Nov 14 2012, 11:43 PM) I have booked a unit during launching , all facing northeast and southeast fully sold. Had canceled hijauan saujana. Hope I have made the correct decision why cancelled saujana? can offer to others if you had super early bird. .Added on November 14, 2012, 11:46 pm Heard fr the SA that next month will launch new Block which is bigger size but 10 to 15percentage increase in price.. |
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Nov 15 2012, 12:17 AM
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QUOTE(maryjane9996 @ Nov 13 2012, 11:16 AM) ya..but the mark up the price already..unless u the buyer of bloack abcd. The RM 700k full furnished units of Jazz Residence @ Pacific Place is different with the Pacific Place Block A-D. The Block F and G ( if I can remember well ) was sold enbloc to HCK Group, who received invitation from Segi Group to provide accommodations to their 6,000 students ( and increasing) based in USJ, Ara Dsara and Kota Dsara. The enbloc buyer company refurnish it to more granded with full furnished to estimate 6 students per unit with rental of RM 3,600 in leasing contract and now open for sale for public to buy fr them n lease back to them. The first block already 90% sold and 2nd block will be open this week. A lot of Sarawakians and Singaporeans very entice of this and sapu immediately. The entrance is different from the Block A-D who bought directly fr developer, MNH Management SB and no leasing contract for them. |
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Nov 15 2012, 12:38 AM
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Lol... looks like Ara Green's price is a huge boost to Verde's sales... Too huge a difference. Well, about the quality, once bitten twice shy. I'll place my bet on Verde. After all, concept is subjective and aint that practical.
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Nov 15 2012, 01:05 AM
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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Nov 15 2012, 12:17 AM) The RM 700k full furnished units of Jazz Residence @ Pacific Place is different with the Pacific Place Block A-D. so they have the guaranteed return contract right ? and its only for the first 2 year ? this is something like regalia jalan kuching.The Block F and G ( if I can remember well ) was sold enbloc to HCK Group, who received invitation from Segi Group to provide accommodations to their 6,000 students ( and increasing) based in USJ, Ara Dsara and Kota Dsara. The enbloc buyer company refurnish it to more granded with full furnished to estimate 6 students per unit with rental of RM 3,600 in leasing contract and now open for sale for public to buy fr them n lease back to them. The first block already 90% sold and 2nd block will be open this week. A lot of Sarawakians and Singaporeans very entice of this and sapu immediately. The entrance is different from the Block A-D who bought directly fr developer, MNH Management SB and no leasing contract for them. any link to for this new block bro ? thanks |
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Nov 15 2012, 01:13 AM
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QUOTE(maryjane9996 @ Nov 15 2012, 01:05 AM) so they have the guaranteed return contract right ? and its only for the first 2 year ? this is something like regalia jalan kuching. Bro, no link for this project because they are yet to market it heavily to the public but now preview for investors. any link to for this new block bro ? thanks I not sure of the guarantee, which I quite remember it was not guarantee but I heard some other members said it was guarantee and posted the agents' quote. Dunno which page dy. It was 3+3 years optional. I had the brochure but Left at home due to out for vacation. Hehe. |
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Nov 15 2012, 01:42 AM
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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Nov 15 2012, 12:17 AM) The first block already 90% sold and 2nd block will be open this week. What is the indicative per sf pricing and size?Btw heard this project is build on top of landfill... |
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Nov 15 2012, 02:24 AM
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QUOTE(dongding @ Nov 15 2012, 01:42 AM) What is the indicative per sf pricing and size? Bro, lets better you ask at Jazz Residence or Pacific Place thread for further info. It was 993 sq ft I think, one size only and RM 700 psf. Btw heard this project is build on top of landfill... This is Verde thread and I don't members here say I promo it highly at wrong thread. Lol. |
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Nov 15 2012, 02:39 AM
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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Nov 15 2012, 02:24 AM) Bro, lets better you ask at Jazz Residence or Pacific Place thread for further info. It was 993 sq ft I think, one size only and RM 700 psf. Lol...ok thanks taikor.This is Verde thread and I don't members here say I promo it highly at wrong thread. Lol. Anyway dev has gone really crazy with such price... |
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Nov 15 2012, 09:40 AM
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QUOTE(bryan_x00 @ Nov 15 2012, 12:16 AM) why cancelled saujana? can offer to others if you had super early bird. The sales for saujana is not good . Till now they still offer the same package . Anyway I dint pay anything yet they allow me to apply loan first bef pay deposit during launching block b. |
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Nov 15 2012, 11:35 AM
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For those verde units with view facing the river behind, word of caution, please check it out first. The river sight is pretty unpleasant n opposite the river there is a sewerage plant. You can park ur car at the mamak restaurant n go down to see
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Nov 15 2012, 11:37 AM
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QUOTE(dongding @ Nov 15 2012, 01:42 AM) What is the indicative per sf pricing and size? U r right bout the landfill. Not very stable ground if foundation not done properly. The low cost apartments beside it, at some point was declare unsafe due to structure tilting. Maybe they hv rectified it after so many year vacant and seemed ready for occupancy now.Btw heard this project is build on top of landfill... Added on November 15, 2012, 11:39 am QUOTE(brandonho @ Nov 15 2012, 12:38 AM) Lol... looks like Ara Green's price is a huge boost to Verde's sales... Too huge a difference. Well, about the quality, once bitten twice shy. I'll place my bet on Verde. After all, concept is subjective and aint that practical. U'll place ur bet in Verde's quality compare to Ara Green? Seriously? Check Villamas repo mate.This post has been edited by HouseToLive: Nov 15 2012, 11:39 AM |
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Nov 15 2012, 11:43 AM
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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Nov 15 2012, 01:13 AM) Bro, no link for this project because they are yet to market it heavily to the public but now preview for investors. wa...if 3+3 then very good lo..straight after contact expired can flip lo... I not sure of the guarantee, which I quite remember it was not guarantee but I heard some other members said it was guarantee and posted the agents' quote. Dunno which page dy. It was 3+3 years optional. I had the brochure but Left at home due to out for vacation. Hehe. gonna check it out..thanks taiko.  |
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Nov 15 2012, 07:42 PM
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QUOTE(brandonho @ Nov 15 2012, 07:42 PM) Nah, when I said once bitten twice shy, I meant the developer should hv the common sense to get it right for Verde after what they experienced with Atmosfera. Difference is, I do not stereotype a developer base on one project in particular, I'm sure they have a fair share of success for other projects as well... Likewise, I m sure the once medium size developers like Mah Sing and SP Setia has experienced the same, but that did not stop them from growing to a reputable developer now. It took time but they persisted. So... I m sure Villamas will place greater emphasis to Verde's quality if they ever wish to grow. Additionally, it is human nature to always amplify on other's mistakes but never on their contributions or success... given those considerations, my risk is manageable and yes... I will still place my bet on Verde.... U sure sound like the sales manager that attended to me. |
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Nov 15 2012, 07:47 PM
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QUOTE(CMW123 @ Nov 15 2012, 11:35 AM) For those verde units with view facing the river behind, word of caution, please check it out first. The river sight is pretty unpleasant n opposite the river there is a sewerage plant. You can park ur car at the mamak restaurant n go down to see After checking it out some concern   |
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Nov 15 2012, 08:01 PM
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QUOTE(HouseToLive @ Nov 15 2012, 07:47 PM) U sure sound like the sales manager that attended to me. Isn't that the truth anyway? |
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Nov 15 2012, 08:16 PM
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QUOTE(imprezaWRX @ Nov 12 2012, 10:06 AM) actually bro .. u'd be surprised .. I met many villamas buyers... So good luck...i met a few Villamas repeat buyers .. all made money in Atmosfera, and all buying into Verde because they think its of good value plus they get additional 1.5% (??) repeat buyer discount ... when I asked them about all the complains on workmanship, etc they said their phase wasn't affected and it affected some other phases ? guess not all are rotten .. it was quite a BBB madhouse ... the SAs were working overtime printing out the booking forms .. a la Tropicana Gardens and Skypod .. not like Metropark though, that was rather cold compared to this |
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Nov 15 2012, 10:47 PM
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QUOTE(brandonho @ Nov 15 2012, 07:42 PM) Nah, when I said once bitten twice shy, I meant the developer should hv the common sense to get it right for Verde after what they experienced with Atmosfera. Difference is, I do not stereotype a developer base on one project in particular, I'm sure they have a fair share of success for other projects as well... Likewise, I m sure the once medium size developers like Mah Sing and SP Setia has experienced the same, but that did not stop them from growing to a reputable developer now. It took time but they persisted. So... I m sure Villamas will place greater emphasis to Verde's quality if they ever wish to grow. Additionally, it is human nature to always amplify on other's mistakes but never on their contributions or success... given those considerations, my risk is manageable and yes... I will still place my bet on Verde.... What about Talam? Keep on doing bad things till change name. Even lagoon perdana got problem till one block also failed to get CF. I like Ara Damansara, just hope Verde and Ara Green can sustain and dun spoil the area. |
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Nov 16 2012, 12:14 AM
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QUOTE(RomaNce @ Nov 15 2012, 10:47 PM) What about Talam? Keep on doing bad things till change name. Even lagoon perdana got problem till one block also failed to get CF. Well, I won't question how much do u know about Talam, neither do I want to comment on things with so many political agendas. Nonetheless, like u said it yourself, they kept doing bad things... So how can anyone over generalize Villamas as a bad company with merely one bad project to date? I understand it's only normal for such concerns to rise, but lets not be judgemental on matters that does not represent a company as a whole.I like Ara Damansara, just hope Verde and Ara Green can sustain and dun spoil the area. That aside, I too, hope that Ara Damansara will continue to enjoy a conducive living status, given the fact that land are scarce, numerous community parks, wide roads, affluent naighbourhood and minimal skyscrapers. And with the current balance between supply and demand for residential properties, Verde and Ara Greens may be more of a need than a hazard. Rest assure, Ara Damansara is enjoying a good maturing rate and there are more end-user product than investment product. |
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Nov 16 2012, 02:40 AM
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I dont see the point to compare Verde and Ara Green.
Ara Green RM700psft+ Invest a lot in design, facilities but high density. Verde RM550psft huge space, low density but design normal. So, you get what you pay..If you rich enough you can even look at MK property which give you luxury, impressive design and so on. Perhaps, RM1million+? |
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Nov 16 2012, 02:51 AM
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QUOTE(CMW123 @ Nov 15 2012, 11:35 AM) For those verde units with view facing the river behind, word of caution, please check it out first. The river sight is pretty unpleasant n opposite the river there is a sewerage plant. You can park ur car at the mamak restaurant n go down to see My unit is facing northwest , petronas side, the sewerage plant behind petronas ? |
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Nov 16 2012, 07:14 AM
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QUOTE(RomaNce @ Nov 15 2012, 10:47 PM) What about Talam? Keep on doing bad things till change name. Even lagoon perdana got problem till one block also failed to get CF. +1I like Ara Damansara, just hope Verde and Ara Green can sustain and dun spoil the area. |
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Nov 16 2012, 07:57 AM
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QUOTE(brandonho @ Nov 16 2012, 12:14 AM) So how can anyone over generalize Villamas as a bad company with merely one bad project to date? I understand it's only normal for such concerns to rise, but lets not be judgemental on matters that does not represent a company as a whole. more than 1 completed projects to date.. Serin and Zefer not complete yet.. This post has been edited by abgkik: Nov 16 2012, 08:01 AM |
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Nov 16 2012, 08:40 AM
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QUOTE(abgkik @ Nov 16 2012, 07:57 AM) more than 1 completed projects to date.. I mean bad project...There is only one to date... And u r right... Serin and Zefer not completed yet.... So it's not time to drop judgement without any basis. One doesn't represent all.... Serin and Zefer not complete yet.. |
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Nov 16 2012, 09:26 AM
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QUOTE(brandonho @ Nov 16 2012, 08:40 AM) I mean bad project...There is only one to date... And u r right... Serin and Zefer not completed yet.... So it's not time to drop judgement without any basis. One doesn't represent all.... Villamas, Villa Pavi, Atmosfera....  My judgement is... there is developer which only care about profit despite the quality that they should deliver.. |
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Nov 16 2012, 10:00 AM
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QUOTE(abgkik @ Nov 16 2012, 09:26 AM) Villamas, Villa Pavi, Atmosfera.... not trying to side anyone here.....but i do think in the long run, a reputable developer would actually equate to better profitability. just look at UOA, people will just go and buy their project, as they are pretty good in their workmanship. same goes to sunrise, malton etc etc. My judgement is... there is developer which only care about profit despite the quality that they should deliver.. developer with bad reputation will end up having to compete on pricing only and when this happen, things can only get worse and not better. admittedly, maybe there is some quality issues (i am assuming what is said in this forum is true) in one of their projects, but would like to ask if the developer is rectifying the issue as they surface or the developer adopting a tidak-apa attitude. if developer is indeed doing something, it goes to show they too, are serious and concerned on their reputation. just my 2 sen. |
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Nov 16 2012, 10:40 AM
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QUOTE(brandonho @ Nov 15 2012, 08:01 PM) Isn't that the truth anyway? I think u should read this forum starting from pg1 for the truth. Also u can google for other forums regarding Villamas for more truths. Not just 1 project, it's Villamas' projects tht others r reffering to. It's the repo & image of a certain kind of quality coming from Villamas. They need a lot more better projects to make it up. Buyers will just hv to gamble that's all.This post has been edited by HouseToLive: Nov 16 2012, 10:41 AM |
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Nov 16 2012, 10:55 AM
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QUOTE(Ed2506 @ Nov 16 2012, 02:51 AM) My unit is facing northwest , petronas side, the sewerage plant behind petronas ? Yes, there is a small treatment plant behind petronas across the river. There is another sewarage treatment plant, a very big one further down too.If the units are facing the river, sure can see the small one. If higher floor, believed can see both. You can check from google map. But best is take a look yourself and judge... |
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QUOTE(brandonho @ Nov 16 2012, 10:55 AM) Well said, please name more of Villamas projects because they are mostly recurring buyers and I wonder why. As for your statement on developer who cares about profit but never really deliver in terms of quality, generally no business owners will hv the right mind to say that they do not want to profit... But when it comes to quality, unless the quality of their product has been consistently poor, only can we say that they are unreliable. In the case of Villamas, looks like they are no where near being unreliable bro.... it is unrealiable... I'm one of ex-Villamas purchaser.. the problem keep coming until warranty expired (after 18 month).. I have spent about RM30k ++ just to rectify my ex-unit (lucky to buyer) after the warranty expiry date.. I from zero knowlegde on house leaking become an expert already.. To investigate this matter, I have made survey on Villamas other completed project.. so yaaa... it's terible..till now, other owners who dare not to spend like me still facing the problem.. even they need to call authority to check on this matter.. So you are any Villamas Prop owner? Added on November 16, 2012, 11:51 am QUOTE(brandonho @ Nov 16 2012, 10:55 AM) Now this is quite a constructive comment. The problem with forums are, people get emotionally attached to comments that is conveyed out of frustration. And with just merely a fixable issue, things can be blown out of proportion. Question is, does anyone have any idea how efficient has Villamas been, when it comes to rectifying defects and addressing resident's concerns? Even if there is, no one really announce it on forums, hence, only the bad stuff lingers around here. nevertheless, This has been of great help to Villamas, as they continue to better themselves and channels these feedbacks to something of greater use. I wrote base on my own real life, money and time experience...  This post has been edited by abgkik: Nov 16 2012, 11:51 AM |
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Nov 16 2012, 12:18 PM
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QUOTE(abgkik @ Nov 16 2012, 11:47 AM) it is unrealiable... I'm one of ex-Villamas purchaser.. the problem keep coming until warranty expired (after 18 month).. I have spent about RM30k ++ just to rectify my ex-unit (lucky to buyer) after the warranty expiry date.. I from zero knowlegde on house leaking become an expert already.. To investigate this matter, I have made survey on Villamas other completed project.. so yaaa... it's terible.. Wow for someone who has made some profit from the sub-sale of Villamas project and yet have something bad to talk about, your credibility should be questioned. Just from what you claimed, of conducting a survey, without any supporting facts, it'll always remain as an accusation. Anyway, from the very inadequate info you provided, I am assuming u r referring to Atmosfera, which it's defect liability period is no where near to expiry. And for the only point that u hv been advocating, It's called water proofing. Why would you repair at your own cost when it's still under the defects liability period? I am very very very confused.... Pls enlighten me...till now, other owners who dare not to spend like me still facing the problem.. even they need to call authority to check on this matter.. So you are any Villamas Prop owner? Added on November 16, 2012, 11:51 am I wrote base on my own real life, money and time experience... |
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Nov 16 2012, 12:48 PM
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QUOTE(brandonho @ Nov 16 2012, 12:18 PM) Wow for someone who has made some profit from the sub-sale of Villamas project and yet have something bad to talk about, your credibility should be questioned. Just from what you claimed, of conducting a survey, without any supporting facts, it'll always remain as an accusation. Anyway, from the very inadequate info you provided, I am assuming u r referring to Atmosfera, which it's defect liability period is no where near to expiry. And for the only point that u hv been advocating, It's called water proofing. Why would you repair at your own cost when it's still under the defects liability period? I am very very very confused.... Pls enlighten me... Bro... After 18 months of warranty period, do you think developer bother to entertain u? my cost of repair is after warranty period, as developer unable to solve it.. I hv made profit? I purchased for my own use and my selling price is only par with my cost.. I move out because no more privacy within the area...Facts? there are few letter wrote by JMB to conduct the inspection with authority on the problem..Not to stop buyer to gamble.. But beware... This post has been edited by abgkik: Nov 16 2012, 12:54 PM |
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Nov 16 2012, 12:54 PM
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I think brandonho is the agent for verde....very positive on that.
Basically i like ara damansara but these verde and ara green really got few bad points. 1) not reputable developer 2) low quality 3) too expensive 4) villamas workmanship is no good Compared to mk, hartamas, taman desa by uoa, sunrise, spsetia...price is still reasonable but with better locstion and quality...i m talking about 550psf as well....which verde and ara green selling more than this price but with different quality and location. What is the strong point why buyer want to choose verde to invest? Unless the buyers never know about villamas reputation, they dunno and scare to invest into other location, then kena blind or psycho by the agents and first time buyer just look at the package to gamble but not to invest. |
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Nov 16 2012, 01:32 PM
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QUOTE(abgkik @ Nov 16 2012, 12:48 PM) Bro... After 18 months of warranty period, do you think developer bother to entertain u? my cost of repair is after warranty period, as developer unable to solve it.. I hv made profit? I purchased for my own use and my selling price is only par with my cost.. I move out because no more privacy within the area... Abangkik, I agree with you.Facts?  there are few letter wrote by JMB to conduct the inspection with authority on the problem..Not to stop buyer to gamble.. But beware... I dont know the extend of BrandanHo's experience with Villamas, or how vested he is, but from my personal experience, this developer's commitment and responsibility towards their property buyers has a lot of room for improvement. Not only that, the quality of the finished product also leaves a lot of bitter taste in mouth. I know for a fact that some buyers of their properties launches various complaints but was not resolved. It reached a stage when the residents had to file complaints to local authorithies. As for his point abt people not highlighting the good things Villamas did, well let me ask this; would anyone want to spoil the reputation of the properties they are vested in if they have a choice? Would people want the public to know their property is full of problems, thus lower its market value? Of course not! But people do that when they are pushed into a corner, and can't take it anymore. Yes, it's that bad. Yes, there are repeated buyers of villamas properties. That's because they made money. Why not? In the past two, three years, any props, regardless of location and quality, would make money. Many of these speculators hardly give a damn about the property and its liveability. But if the market slows down, then buyers will be more choosy, and that's when quality will make and break the deal. And why those who made money off Villamas do not have right to complain? Their gain is from the risks they took, and from the bullish market atmosphere. in fact, Villamas's could have reduced their profits due to their quality issues. The credibility is only lost when you compromise your opinions due to money. Good luck to those who want to take a gamble. This post has been edited by cockee: Nov 16 2012, 01:33 PM |
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Nov 16 2012, 01:42 PM
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Thank you guys. Seems like he's defending it like a Villamas hero.
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Nov 16 2012, 02:29 PM
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I really hope the villamas representative read this forum.... after so many project yet the complain is still the same...
Every of thier project aso have the same complain and yet the same complain happen to new development project then is really Villamas problem and not the contractor problem... Must Improve looo.... |
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Nov 16 2012, 02:31 PM
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i guessing the Brandonho is somehow related to Villamas...
Can check through his profile here... |
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Nov 16 2012, 02:36 PM
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It's obvious.
Anyways buyers really should do their homework. The sales guys r really good in painting a good pucture to pushing sales. |
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Nov 16 2012, 03:03 PM
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Peace!
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Nov 16 2012, 03:33 PM
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QUOTE(brandonho @ Nov 16 2012, 03:03 PM) Well, I Appreciate all the personal opinions about Villamas thus far. And as the saying goes, what doesn't kill you, makes u stronger. And being among the few out of the thousands who were part of Villamas projects, your opinions are equally treated with utmost importance. Bla bla bla... This is exactly the same rhetoric I received when talking to real Villamas respresentative on the issues affecting my Villamas condo. Now I am more than convinced you are somehow vested in Villamas or this project.What? You think you are a Jedi Master giving us advise ah? We don't need Villamas to 'try to kill us to make us stronger'. We just need them to be more responsive, take comprehensive actions and solve those bloody problems. We as buyers are paying your salary or profit, so we just expect you to do your job well, and not to tell us what to think or learn when you guys don't do your jobs. Yeah, the fact is I am only one of the few hundreds dissatisfied purchasers. But I can assure you that there more than a huge group of us who share the same feeling. Hell, if you do a checking with Ministry of Housing or MPSJ you will the number of formal complaints lodged against them! The Ministry's officers even came to the condo to conduct a briefing on the procedures, and then receive complaints. This is not hearsay, nor rumours. And the listing of complaints and defects can run to a few pages of A4 papers. That's on the common area alone! And by saying that I am 'the few out of the thousands', you are doing exactly the opposite of 'treating with utmost importance'. You are trying to minisculate my opinion, and dismissive about it. Your hidden message is 'you are just a small fry, so your opinion is neglible'. Again, this is the same attitude that made me so fed up with this developer. My advise to Villamas is to do their job properly, fixed those faulty lifts (not even half a year handover already spoiled) and stop giving excuses (for example, lift spare parts out of stock!). |
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Nov 16 2012, 03:42 PM
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QUOTE(brandonho @ Nov 16 2012, 03:03 PM) Well, I Appreciate all the personal opinions about Villamas thus far. And as the saying goes, what doesn't kill you, makes u stronger. And being among the few out of the thousands who were part of Villamas projects, your opinions are equally treated with utmost importance. To place all credits to those who vested in Villamas project and none on the developer itself on the basis that the bullish market atmosphere was favorable, seems like an understatement. Not all are making money yet especially those who thought they missed the bandwagon and jumped into locations with imbalanced growth rate between supply and demand. When a location's growth rate turns into developments built out of trend versus location built out of needs, you risk having an oversupply of property and place you in a position where u hv little control over your price demand from the secondary market. If you notice, Villamas projects have always been built in developing town ships with a favorable maturing rate, hence, making buyers the pioneers of a location in particular. To create a simpler understanding on the quality of Villamas projects, Villamas has never denied any of such cases but hv always looked into it from a legal perspective. And for whatever matters brought up for a constructive discussion, they are all temporary and rectifiable. Methods taken by certain quarters in confronting the problems are also a representation of themselves. The reason for us to hv recurring buyers is due to the fact that not all projects are affected, like other developers, we have a fair share of happy and unhappy buyers and we place great importance in the selection of land for future developments. Villamas does not believe in a hit and run business as they continue to better themselves from all angels. Meanwhile, I too, from a buyer's perspective will understand the frustrations some has endured that is why I dare to confront the issue head on by using my actual name in this forum. My voice here does not represent any parties in particular, but I wish that people can look at issues from a wider spectrum. Opinions are always subjective facts are always true, In the case of Villamas, out of so many other projects, they hv had their fair share of success and challenges. Lets not over generalize. For those who placed their bet on Villamas, the risk are much lower now, becos once bitten, twice shy, it only makes so much more sense for them to make it right for Verde. for your gutsbut to be honest, i guess only time will tell and it is also true that any buyers of villamas project now is really taking risk. But what investment does not come with risk? i am also guessing that this might be the reason verde is priced much more competitively with ara green which obviously is a direct competitor. If you take an opinion that the developer will improve, then this will definitely be a good buy. if you do not think developer will improve, then question would be, is the price differentiation sufficient enough for investor to choose verde over ara green? (comparison with other location might not be fair).....if investor is right then they make some good money, if investor is wrong, then they are likely to be stuck. that is why i love the forum. it allows both sides to voice their opinion. Added on November 16, 2012, 3:44 pm QUOTE(brandonho @ Nov 16 2012, 03:03 PM) Well, I Appreciate all the personal opinions about Villamas thus far. And as the saying goes, what doesn't kill you, makes u stronger. And being among the few out of the thousands who were part of Villamas projects, your opinions are equally treated with utmost importance. To place all credits to those who vested in Villamas project and none on the developer itself on the basis that the bullish market atmosphere was favorable, seems like an understatement. Not all are making money yet especially those who thought they missed the bandwagon and jumped into locations with imbalanced growth rate between supply and demand. When a location's growth rate turns into developments built out of trend versus location built out of needs, you risk having an oversupply of property and place you in a position where u hv little control over your price demand from the secondary market. If you notice, Villamas projects have always been built in developing town ships with a favorable maturing rate, hence, making buyers the pioneers of a location in particular. To create a simpler understanding on the quality of Villamas projects, Villamas has never denied any of such cases but hv always looked into it from a legal perspective. And for whatever matters brought up for a constructive discussion, they are all temporary and rectifiable. Methods taken by certain quarters in confronting the problems are also a representation of themselves. The reason for us to hv recurring buyers is due to the fact that not all projects are affected, like other developers, we have a fair share of happy and unhappy buyers and we place great importance in the selection of land for future developments. Villamas does not believe in a hit and run business as they continue to better themselves from all angels. Meanwhile, I too, from a buyer's perspective will understand the frustrations some has endured that is why I dare to confront the issue head on by using my actual name in this forum. My voice here does not represent any parties in particular, but I wish that people can look at issues from a wider spectrum. Opinions are always subjective facts are always true, In the case of Villamas, out of so many other projects, they hv had their fair share of success and challenges. Lets not over generalize. For those who placed their bet on Villamas, the risk are much lower now, becos once bitten, twice shy, it only makes so much more sense for them to make it right for Verde. for your gutsbut to be honest, i guess only time will tell and it is also true that any buyers of villamas project now is really taking risk. But what investment does not come with risk? i am also guessing that this might be the reason verde is priced much more competitively with ara green which obviously is a direct competitor. If you take an opinion that the developer will improve, then this will definitely be a good buy. if you do not think developer will improve, then question would be, is the price differentiation sufficient enough for investor to choose verde over ara green? (comparison with other location might not be fair).....if investor is right then they make some good money, if investor is wrong, then they are likely to be stuck. that is why i love the forum. it allows both sides to voice their opinion. This post has been edited by dinox: Nov 16 2012, 03:44 PM |
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Nov 16 2012, 04:24 PM
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QUOTE(brandonho @ Nov 16 2012, 10:55 AM) ...people get emotionally attached to comments that is conveyed out of frustration. And with just merely a fixable issue, things can be blown out of proportion. Question is, does anyone have any idea how efficient has Villamas been, when it comes to rectifying defects and addressing resident's concerns? Even if there is, no one really announce it on forums, hence, only the bad stuff lingers around here. nevertheless, This has been of great help to Villamas, as they continue to better themselves and channels these feedbacks to something of greater use... Yeah, people got frustrated. Why? Because some developer repeatedly fails to rectify the issues faced by the purchasers. ..Lets not over generalize. For those who placed their bet on Villamas, the risk are much lower now, becos once bitten, twice shy, it only makes so much more sense for them to make it right for Verde... Question is, does anyone have any idea how efficient has Villamas been? Yeah, I know because I experienced it. The answer is NOT VERY EFFICIENT at all. If they are so efficient, please ask them, as on late Oct, why there is no confirmed date to fix Atmosfera's elevators yet? Please why only few months after handovers already got flooding problem in basement carpark and common corridor when it rains heavily? Why even the barbeque pit got issue? I am not over generalizing. I speak with specifics. And why I dare to say all this without fearing libel lawsuit from Villamas? Because it is all true. Actually i read about Villamas's shoddy workmanship before I purchased Atmosfera. I thought, this condo is their first venture into the higher-end market, so they will put in 110% to make sure this project is a success. Then they will have a good example to showcase when they market Serin, Zefer and Verde. Well, I don't know how many % they put in in reality, but I know it is definitely NOT GOOD enough! So what make anyone think they have learned their lesson? |
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Nov 17 2012, 07:24 AM
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QUOTE(cockee @ Nov 16 2012, 04:24 PM) Yeah, people got frustrated. Why? Because some developer repeatedly fails to rectify the issues faced by the purchasers. I feel u mate. Thx for sharing this.Question is, does anyone have any idea how efficient has Villamas been? Yeah, I know because I experienced it. The answer is NOT VERY EFFICIENT at all. If they are so efficient, please ask them, as on late Oct, why there is no confirmed date to fix Atmosfera's elevators yet? Please why only few months after handovers already got flooding problem in basement carpark and common corridor when it rains heavily? Why even the barbeque pit got issue? I am not over generalizing. I speak with specifics. And why I dare to say all this without fearing libel lawsuit from Villamas? Because it is all true. Actually i read about Villamas's shoddy workmanship before I purchased Atmosfera. I thought, this condo is their first venture into the higher-end market, so they will put in 110% to make sure this project is a success. Then they will have a good example to showcase when they market Serin, Zefer and Verde. Well, I don't know how many % they put in in reality, but I know it is definitely NOT GOOD enough! So what make anyone think they have learned their lesson? |
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Nov 17 2012, 03:24 PM
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QUOTE(cockee @ Nov 16 2012, 04:24 PM) Yeah, people got frustrated. Why? Because some developer repeatedly fails to rectify the issues faced by the purchasers. Wow...villamas is really problem developer just like talam....luckily did not invest in the future problem Verde! Thanks bro!Question is, does anyone have any idea how efficient has Villamas been? Yeah, I know because I experienced it. The answer is NOT VERY EFFICIENT at all. If they are so efficient, please ask them, as on late Oct, why there is no confirmed date to fix Atmosfera's elevators yet? Please why only few months after handovers already got flooding problem in basement carpark and common corridor when it rains heavily? Why even the barbeque pit got issue? I am not over generalizing. I speak with specifics. And why I dare to say all this without fearing libel lawsuit from Villamas? Because it is all true. Actually i read about Villamas's shoddy workmanship before I purchased Atmosfera. I thought, this condo is their first venture into the higher-end market, so they will put in 110% to make sure this project is a success. Then they will have a good example to showcase when they market Serin, Zefer and Verde. Well, I don't know how many % they put in in reality, but I know it is definitely NOT GOOD enough! So what make anyone think they have learned their lesson? |
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Nov 18 2012, 07:35 PM
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Hi, I am new in property investment and had been reading this thread for some times. And had been browsing the atmosfera advertisements in propwall and iProp. Seems like the workmanship not really as bad as mentioned.
 Been to setiawalk at Puchong also, noted that the 1500sf also asking for more than 800K and quality of work seems the same / not much different from atmosfera. So, I was thinking at that kind of pricing compared to Verde, Ara Damansara is definitely a better location. And, off course overall environment is much quieter and soothing for family living. With Tesco and the present medical center, upcoming project by See Hoy Chan near Citta Mall (citta mall owned by tycoon Lee Ka-Shing), can I said that Ara Damansara is a better bet compared to other? Sorry, I didnt mentioned abt Ara Green here because I cant afford it at that kind of steep pricing.  Another finding that I found about Villamas is that they do not have abandoned projects. That is surely a safe bet, I guess. Anyway, all above is only my personal opinion. Hope that all sifus here can give further advise. Thank you. |
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Nov 18 2012, 09:50 PM
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Hi all, first post in this forum
I have a unit with good number to let go. My partner withdraw and I can't afford by myself. For those who are interested in this project, kindly PM me for details. Cheers! |
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Nov 18 2012, 09:51 PM
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Actually, the first and biggest fear is the project gets abandoned and investors are left hanging.
Of course, second bigger fear is when the property get delivered, the unit becomes problematic with a lot to fix. |
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Nov 18 2012, 11:29 PM
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Nov 19 2012, 10:23 AM
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walau eh, this forum is so best!!! hahaha.
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Nov 19 2012, 11:42 AM
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QUOTE(prop newbie @ Nov 18 2012, 07:35 PM) Hi, I am new in property investment and had been reading this thread for some times. And had been browsing the atmosfera advertisements in propwall and iProp. Seems like the workmanship not really as bad as mentioned. So.. are you buying a unit at Verde? Been to setiawalk at Puchong also, noted that the 1500sf also asking for more than 800K and quality of work seems the same / not much different from atmosfera. So, I was thinking at that kind of pricing compared to Verde, Ara Damansara is definitely a better location. And, off course overall environment is much quieter and soothing for family living. With Tesco and the present medical center, upcoming project by See Hoy Chan near Citta Mall (citta mall owned by tycoon Lee Ka-Shing), can I said that Ara Damansara is a better bet compared to other? Sorry, I didnt mentioned abt Ara Green here because I cant afford it at that kind of steep pricing. Another finding that I found about Villamas is that they do not have abandoned projects. That is surely a safe bet, I guess. Anyway, all above is only my personal opinion. Hope that all sifus here can give further advise. Thank you. |
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Nov 19 2012, 11:54 AM
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QUOTE(abgkik @ Nov 16 2012, 11:47 AM) it is unrealiable... I'm one of ex-Villamas purchaser.. the problem keep coming until warranty expired (after 18 month).. I have spent about RM30k ++ just to rectify my ex-unit (lucky to buyer) after the warranty expiry date.. I from zero knowlegde on house leaking become an expert already.. To investigate this matter, I have made survey on Villamas other completed project.. so yaaa... it's terible.. haha, expert, im also expert in attending purchasers defect list since year 2004 until 2009. Almost vomit when heard about defect. Luckily i bought my 1st house stock and barrel, if not complaint to the developer kaw kaw.till now, other owners who dare not to spend like me still facing the problem.. even they need to call authority to check on this matter.. So you are any Villamas Prop owner? Added on November 16, 2012, 11:51 am I wrote base on my own real life, money and time experience... |
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Nov 19 2012, 12:12 PM
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QUOTE(PoisonIvy82 @ Nov 19 2012, 11:42 AM) So.. are you buying a unit at Verde? Hi, I am thinking to go have a look this coming weekend. My thoughts is the pricing is reasonable with room for improvement in term of monetary/investment for the purchasers upon completion. Was thinking if bought can sell at approximately RM 750 psf upon completion. Well, fingers crossed. BUT, THAT IS MY TARGET... |
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Nov 19 2012, 12:15 PM
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QUOTE(prop newbie @ Nov 19 2012, 12:12 PM) Hi, I am thinking to go have a look this coming weekend. My thoughts is the pricing is reasonable with room for improvement in term of monetary/investment for the purchasers upon completion. Was thinking if bought can sell at approximately RM 750 psf upon completion. Well, fingers crossed. BUT, THAT IS MY TARGET... How much is the unit u intend to purchase? Size and discount?RM 750 psf upon completion can cover the multi cost of subsales S&P, agent fee, bank loan penalty and etc? |
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Nov 19 2012, 12:53 PM
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QUOTE(peri peri @ Nov 19 2012, 11:54 AM) haha, expert, im also expert in attending purchasers defect list since year 2004 until 2009. Almost vomit when heard about defect. Luckily i bought my 1st house stock and barrel, if not complaint to the developer kaw kaw. ha ha ha.. taiko.. are you the one hired by Villamas? |
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Nov 19 2012, 01:08 PM
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QUOTE(abgkik @ Nov 19 2012, 12:53 PM) ha ha ha.. taiko.. are you the one hired by Villamas? no lah, last time works as main con, need to hassle through the long 24 months DLP although attending defects was not part of my work scope. Because young and willing to learn, now i know a lot about defects, coordination, remedy and its cost. Potential building manager here |
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Nov 19 2012, 01:30 PM
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QUOTE(peri peri @ Nov 19 2012, 01:08 PM) no lah, last time works as main con, need to hassle through the long 24 months DLP although attending defects was not part of my work scope. Because young and willing to learn, now i know a lot about defects, coordination, remedy and its cost. Potential building manager here wow....great, we have someone from the main con.....can you enlighten us a little.....someone mentioned the problems faced by atmosfera is due to the contractor not doing a good job. is that true? what is the cause of the poor quality? things like lift......what causes it to break down so easily? |
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Nov 19 2012, 01:38 PM
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QUOTE(dinox @ Nov 19 2012, 01:30 PM) wow....great, we have someone from the main con.....can you enlighten us a little.....someone mentioned the problems faced by atmosfera is due to the contractor not doing a good job. is that true? what is the cause of the poor quality? things like lift......what causes it to break down so easily? if u ask me about SP Setia project like Setia Alam or Eco park, i can answer u. Im not main con for this atmosfera. Lift, u need to check the brand of the lift. There are many brand out there, There are premium range, medium range and low range. There are germany made, or OEM from Taiwan or China. Lightning arrestor is the important factor to protect the lift. If not properly insulated, once strike, the control panel will burnt. And also how regular your JMB appoint the lift maintenance team for inspection and servicing. All these relate to cost and $. Even my apartment is from Tan & Tan, doesnt means its perfect. Because they built it meant for compensate back to government on medium cost compliance, workmanship and quality, u know lah. |
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QUOTE(cockee @ Nov 16 2012, 04:24 PM) Yeah, people got frustrated. Why? Because some developer repeatedly fails to rectify the issues faced by the purchasers. Hi cockee, I can feel your frustration too.. Question is, does anyone have any idea how efficient has Villamas been? Yeah, I know because I experienced it. The answer is NOT VERY EFFICIENT at all. If they are so efficient, please ask them, as on late Oct, why there is no confirmed date to fix Atmosfera's elevators yet? Please why only few months after handovers already got flooding problem in basement carpark and common corridor when it rains heavily? Why even the barbeque pit got issue? I am not over generalizing. I speak with specifics. And why I dare to say all this without fearing libel lawsuit from Villamas? Because it is all true. Actually i read about Villamas's shoddy workmanship before I purchased Atmosfera. I thought, this condo is their first venture into the higher-end market, so they will put in 110% to make sure this project is a success. Then they will have a good example to showcase when they market Serin, Zefer and Verde. Well, I don't know how many % they put in in reality, but I know it is definitely NOT GOOD enough! So what make anyone think they have learned their lesson? I am not sure how to put it, but with whatever defects at the common area which is identified at Atmosfera which is "just merely a fixable issue", some have been rectified (credits to Villamas) But generally, I believe there are defects (there are also spoilt stuffs which are causing inconveniences and security concerns to residents) which are still not rectified since VP in May this year. Brandonho just mentioned that "does anyone have any idea how efficient has Villamas been, when it comes to rectifying defects and addressing resident's concerns", haha, this shows how efficient Villamas has been to their purchasers. Is Villamas not serious and concern about their reputation? Well, to me, if current purchasers are given such treatment by Villamas, this gives me a doubt on how they are going to treat the purchasers of their new development. I might be "few out of the thousands" who are raising my concerns here, so my advice to people who are interested in this project to check out with purchasers of Atmosfera (or any other previous projects by Villamas) whether this developer is doing a good job in rectifying issues or "adopting a tidak-apa attitude" Like abgkik, I am not stopping the people from buying. Good location and price anyways. Just beware! This post has been edited by DarkTemplar: Nov 19 2012, 05:56 PM |
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Nov 19 2012, 07:20 PM
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QUOTE(DarkTemplar @ Nov 19 2012, 05:55 PM) Is Villamas not serious and concern about their reputation? Well, to me, if current purchasers are given such treatment by Villamas, this gives me a doubt on how they are going to treat the purchasers of their new development. I might be "few out of the thousands" who are raising my concerns here, so my advice to people who are interested in this project to check out with purchasers of Atmosfera (or any other previous projects by Villamas) whether this developer is doing a good job in rectifying issues or "adopting a tidak-apa attitude" Like abgkik, I am not stopping the people from buying. Good location and price anyways. Just beware! |
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Nov 19 2012, 09:14 PM
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I know here is verde forum, but since everyone is talking abt atmosfera so i take this oppurtunity to ask those atmosfera owner.
Do you guys notice that, there is 3 big water pipe (blue and red) color infront of the lift of your floor?? The 3 pipe make me feel the condo so low cost... I wonder will villamas do something abt it????? Its really ugly... Everytime i come out from the lift, i will shake my head when seeing those 3 pipes... |
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Nov 19 2012, 10:06 PM
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QUOTE(prop newbie @ Nov 19 2012, 12:12 PM) Hi, I am thinking to go have a look this coming weekend. My thoughts is the pricing is reasonable with room for improvement in term of monetary/investment for the purchasers upon completion. Was thinking if bought can sell at approximately RM 750 psf upon completion. Well, fingers crossed. BUT, THAT IS MY TARGET... I visited their sales office noon, surprisingly the sales is damn good , only left 9 unit which are below 4th floor and 2 unit on top floor (13th ), that is 95percentage within one week after launch . I am thinking of chnging my unit fr facing northwest to east but look like no choice.. I did mentioned abt this forum to them and hope they look seriously into the matter .. Anyway I feel happy on their sales . Hope their new block can sell well next month... |
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Nov 19 2012, 11:07 PM
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QUOTE(Ed2506 @ Nov 19 2012, 10:06 PM) I visited their sales office noon, surprisingly the sales is damn good , only left 9 unit which are below 4th floor and 2 unit on top floor (13th ), that is 95percentage within one week after launch . I am thinking of chnging my unit fr facing northwest to east but look like no choice.. I did mentioned abt this forum to them and hope they look seriously into the matter .. Anyway I feel happy on their sales . Hope their new block can sell well next month... They already know about this forum. One of their sales guy was defending Villamas like a hero. Anyways, good luck with ur unit. |
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Nov 19 2012, 11:22 PM
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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Nov 19 2012, 12:15 PM) How much is the unit u intend to purchase? Size and discount? ABOUT RM 200 gained psf wor. Off course sufficient to cover everything lor. RM 750 psf upon completion can cover the multi cost of subsales S&P, agent fee, bank loan penalty and etc? I browsed thru verde website and noticed that the 1500sf layout is quite nice wor. Most probably will choose that one. Anyway, I shall see their show unit this coming Saturday. Let's see if I am happy with the finishing or not. |
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Nov 20 2012, 01:03 AM
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QUOTE(prop newbie @ Nov 19 2012, 11:22 PM) ABOUT RM 200 gained psf wor. Off course sufficient to cover everything lor. The finishing in the showroom look good, just worry actual unit didnt follow show unit quality and standard .. Pls share yr comment after view the unit.. I browsed thru verde website and noticed that the 1500sf layout is quite nice wor. Most probably will choose that one. Anyway, I shall see their show unit this coming Saturday. Let's see if I am happy with the finishing or not. |
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Nov 20 2012, 01:30 AM
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QUOTE(prop newbie @ Nov 19 2012, 11:22 PM) ABOUT RM 200 gained psf wor. Off course sufficient to cover everything lor. Ohh, if RM 200 psf gain, then sure can cover but based on the absolute price point, it may not easy bcz if RM 750 psf market, it would be min RM 990k onwards for a 1320 sq ft condo. I browsed thru verde website and noticed that the 1500sf layout is quite nice wor. Most probably will choose that one. Anyway, I shall see their show unit this coming Saturday. Let's see if I am happy with the finishing or not. If this happen,I much predict it would be a good news for Isola buyers and any high end condos in Subang. Hopefully Verde can prove us wrong on their workmanship / quality bcz they have 3 chances which Zefers and Serin would be complete ahead of Verde. |
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Nov 20 2012, 08:17 AM
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i think for ara damansara area to reach RM750psf on the secondary market could be a little tough not impossible.
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Nov 20 2012, 01:30 PM
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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Nov 20 2012, 01:30 AM) Ohh, if RM 200 psf gain, then sure can cover but based on the absolute price point, it may not easy bcz if RM 750 psf market, it would be min RM 990k onwards for a 1320 sq ft condo. really hope verde can show everyone that , they can done a good job! So we would probably purchase their next project. If this happen,I much predict it would be a good news for Isola buyers and any high end condos in Subang. Hopefully Verde can prove us wrong on their workmanship / quality bcz they have 3 chances which Zefers and Serin would be complete ahead of Verde. |
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Nov 20 2012, 01:56 PM
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Well, I do not think that target price at RM750 psf cannot be achieved in next 3 years. Ara Green already selling at RM800+psf.
Actually, today without wanting to wait further, I went to the sales office this noon. Finishing and the furnishing package is very attractive! Got free kitchen cabinet, hood and hob, food waste disposer, microwave built in oven, air-cond units and its green building! But, too bad all nice units sold out. Now in waiting list for their new tower. Really missed the early boat to get a preferred unit at attractive price. Heard from sales person that they will certainly increase the price... |
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Nov 20 2012, 02:23 PM
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QUOTE(milehigh group @ Nov 20 2012, 01:30 PM) really hope verde can show everyone that , they can done a good job! So we would probably purchase their next project. dont worry... Villamas is realiable developer. if you read back all the previous, its all about the finishing part.. not really big issue like abandon project or proj delay. |
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Nov 20 2012, 04:22 PM
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QUOTE(prop newbie @ Nov 20 2012, 01:56 PM) Well, I do not think that target price at RM750 psf cannot be achieved in next 3 years. Ara Green already selling at RM800+psf. Well, its good that a vested buyer to be remain positive. But no matter Verde or any othrr project we buying, to enter at RM 550 psf and aiming tat RM 750 psf upon VP can be easily achieve is quite little ambitious, well, i'd say it remains possibility but not easy bcx plenty of new units available on 3-4 years time given recent number of new launches. Actually, today without wanting to wait further, I went to the sales office this noon. Finishing and the furnishing package is very attractive! Got free kitchen cabinet, hood and hob, food waste disposer, microwave built in oven, air-cond units and its green building! But, too bad all nice units sold out. Now in waiting list for their new tower. Really missed the early boat to get a preferred unit at attractive price. Heard from sales person that they will certainly increase the price... If I am vested into this, I target it at RM 660 psf which is abt 20% appre and consider pretty good bcz from RM 550 psf to RM 750 psf is a lot harder than RM 400 psf to RM 550 psf where both capp at 36.36% appreciation. Unless another round of 2009-2012 feat which I'd say unlikely to repeat another song but as we all vested into any new properties, lets keep the finger cross. Ara Green at RM 800+ psf is a benchmarking price for Verde, Nova Saujana and Hijauan Saujana but the sales too good doesnt mean it can be a good reapful project in VP time bcz I found most of the buyers of AG were Dr's frens and associates, and it require RM 1000 min psf in order to embark a strong demand to pull the buyers opt for Verde or any at RM 750 psf later on VP period. However, a good location is a good location. I still tempted for landed in Ara Dsara instead bxz current highrise launches push up the prices look affordability. Sorry maybe I am lil conservative bcz I am the 1 of the pool who prepare for the unexpected. |
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Nov 20 2012, 06:45 PM
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Your tabulation is quite correct Chris! Even at RM660psf it still consider a hefty gains for those buying Verde. And, as long as a project does not get abandoned like the one at Ara Damansara is enough already. Hopefully the developer and contractor can do a better job for Verde.
Furthermore, the price of RM660psf can be easily achieved in view of those existing other project at Petaling Jaya which, easily can fetched RM700-RM800 psf. This post has been edited by prop newbie: Nov 20 2012, 06:47 PM |
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Nov 20 2012, 07:05 PM
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Landed 2 storey ara Damansara going For how much now
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Nov 20 2012, 09:14 PM
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QUOTE(prop newbie @ Nov 20 2012, 01:56 PM) Well, I do not think that target price at RM750 psf cannot be achieved in next 3 years. Ara Green already selling at RM800+psf. Yes. They told me maybe 10 to 15 % ..if it is true, after discount will be around 600pst . I think still many people will grab..Actually, today without wanting to wait further, I went to the sales office this noon. Finishing and the furnishing package is very attractive! Got free kitchen cabinet, hood and hob, food waste disposer, microwave built in oven, air-cond units and its green building! But, too bad all nice units sold out. Now in waiting list for their new tower. Really missed the early boat to get a preferred unit at attractive price. Heard from sales person that they will certainly increase the price... |
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Nov 20 2012, 10:23 PM
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Current ara hills n amaya at ara damansara stucked at sub rm500psf, no?
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Nov 21 2012, 01:50 AM
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Rental at ara hills
Rm2.9k For 14xx sq feet Verde can expect higher? http://www.mudah.my/Ara+Hill+CondoAra+Dama...or-18217364.htm |
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Nov 21 2012, 02:39 AM
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Not to side Villamas, but they have good money flow. This is the main concern.
Info : from one of my fren consultant firm handling Villamas case. |
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Nov 21 2012, 12:03 PM
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QUOTE(Chunkit9 @ Nov 20 2012, 02:23 PM) dont worry... Villamas is realiable developer. Yes, I agree with you on this point that Villamas does not have this kind of issue...if you read back all the previous, its all about the finishing part.. not really big issue like abandon project or proj delay. However, it is not only the finishing is bad, but the quality of the basic facilities provided to the condo is terrible.. Just take for example, residents of Atmosfera can only remember how many months the lifts are down instead of how many 'days' the lifts are up.. There are families with children, pregnant ladies, senior citizens.. and they have been climbing stairs from the carpark basement floors.. QUOTE(gajian88 @ Nov 21 2012, 02:39 AM) Not to side Villamas, but they have good money flow. This is the main concern. Good cash flow and yet Villamas is not proactively addressing concerns of their purchasers.. Info : from one of my fren consultant firm handling Villamas case. |
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Nov 21 2012, 02:52 PM
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actually i experience before carrying my 3 years old daughter walk all the way down from 17th floor..
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Nov 21 2012, 03:52 PM
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QUOTE(gajian88 @ Nov 21 2012, 02:39 AM) Not to side Villamas, but they have good money flow. This is the main concern. It is not about the money flow.. It is about the product..Info : from one of my fren consultant firm handling Villamas case. |
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Nov 21 2012, 04:06 PM
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QUOTE(abgkik @ Nov 21 2012, 03:52 PM) It is not about the money flow.. It is about the product.. big company with good money doesnt means they will generously use to provide top class quality. |
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Nov 21 2012, 04:23 PM
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QUOTE(peri peri @ Nov 21 2012, 04:06 PM) big company with good money doesnt means they will generously use to provide top class quality. maybe with low quality product equal too low budget, so they are cash rich.. |
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Nov 21 2012, 04:25 PM
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QUOTE(abgkik @ Nov 21 2012, 04:23 PM) maybe with low quality product equal too low budget, so they are cash rich.. some developer choose not to pay accordingly to due payment for main con or supplier, the day the money still with developer, the developer still cash rich. Thats why my ex boss deal with 90 credit terms with supplier but supplier ends up 150 days terms my ex boss drag drag drag and giving post dated cheuque. pity the supplier. |
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Nov 21 2012, 04:49 PM
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U mean none of the atmosfera lifts are working?
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Nov 21 2012, 05:02 PM
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QUOTE(abgkik @ Nov 21 2012, 03:52 PM) It is not about the money flow.. It is about the product.. Actually it's both!!! Cash flow is important n product is also equally important!!! End of the day wat buyer need is secure n good quality !!! Any idea when they starting the. Construction work ?? |
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Nov 21 2012, 05:28 PM
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850k onwards.
QUOTE(airline @ Nov 20 2012, 07:05 PM) Landed 2 storey ara Damansara going For how much now |
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Nov 21 2012, 05:37 PM
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QUOTE(maryjane9996 @ Nov 21 2012, 05:28 PM) 850k onwards. 850k is quite low. Wht kind of size? |
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Nov 21 2012, 05:43 PM
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QUOTE(HouseToLive @ Nov 21 2012, 05:37 PM) 850k is quite low. Wht kind of size? not sure bro.thats why i didnt opt for condo more than 800k in Ara Damansara.can get landed..pls check in mudah,iprop and propwall. |
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Nov 21 2012, 05:54 PM
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QUOTE(maryjane9996 @ Nov 21 2012, 05:43 PM) not sure bro.thats why i didnt opt for condo more than 800k in Ara Damansara.can get landed..pls check in mudah,iprop and propwall. i think 850k for landed is referring to the old phase (ie first few to be launched) in ara damansara. the newer phase (ie near the big park) is going for at least rm1mio. some reno-ed units there can fetch as much as 1.3mio also. i think this is also justifying the reason the condo price is picking so quickly in ara damansara. |
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Nov 21 2012, 07:56 PM
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QUOTE(dinox @ Nov 21 2012, 05:54 PM) i think 850k for landed is referring to the old phase (ie first few to be launched) in ara damansara. the newer phase (ie near the big park) is going for at least rm1mio. some reno-ed units there can fetch as much as 1.3mio also. Well, condo & landed 2 very diff choices. To pay such high entry price and share the land with thousands and hundreds living above ur unit, it's just ain't my type of living i think this is also justifying the reason the condo price is picking so quickly in ara damansara. This post has been edited by HouseToLive: Nov 21 2012, 07:57 PM |
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Nov 22 2012, 11:47 AM
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QUOTE(milehigh group @ Nov 21 2012, 05:02 PM) Actually it's both!!! Cash flow is important n product is also equally important!!! we know important of both element.. now we are are talking about the product.. End of the day wat buyer need is secure n good quality !!! Any idea when they starting the. Construction work ?? good cash flow doesn't mean good quality.. so good luck.. |
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Nov 23 2012, 10:48 AM
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Any idea which contractor are they using.?? I heard they using sp setia architect!!! Contractor not sure .
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Nov 25 2012, 12:21 AM
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QUOTE(milehigh group @ Nov 23 2012, 10:48 AM) Any idea which contractor are they using.?? I heard they using sp setia architect!!! Contractor not sure . they use this architect for verde: http://www.archicentre.com.my/yes, this architect did many sp setia's eco projects... |
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Nov 25 2012, 01:26 AM
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Correct me if I'm wrong. Good workmanship has nothing got nothing to do with architect but the contractor itself.
You can have very nice and modern design but if the contractor sucks, you will get very lousy workmanship. |
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Nov 25 2012, 01:34 AM
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left 6 units as of afternoon... wowow very good sales for Phase 1 preview launch... another BBB project
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Nov 25 2012, 01:37 AM
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QUOTE(jucl @ Nov 25 2012, 01:26 AM) Correct me if I'm wrong. Good workmanship has nothing got nothing to do with architect but the contractor itself. Architects typically put projects to tender on behalf of their clients, advise on the award of the project to a general contractor, and review the progress of the work during construction.You can have very nice and modern design but if the contractor sucks, you will get very lousy workmanship. |
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Nov 25 2012, 01:52 AM
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QUOTE(accetera @ Nov 25 2012, 01:34 AM) left 6 units as of afternoon... wowow very good sales for Phase 1 preview launch... another BBB project only left with 6??? |
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Nov 25 2012, 11:04 AM
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I think demand is still good for the area. 6 units left out of 200 units. These sort of sales numbers is pretty enviable as the launch is only done some weeks ago.
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Nov 25 2012, 11:29 AM
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QUOTE(jucl @ Nov 25 2012, 01:26 AM) Correct me if I'm wrong. Good workmanship has nothing got nothing to do with architect but the contractor itself. yeah i agree of that tho. contractor is the most important ! Villamas have to seriously think to get a good contractor to build up their repu. You can have very nice and modern design but if the contractor sucks, you will get very lousy workmanship. if not their next project i dont think ppl will invest on it again! |
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Nov 25 2012, 04:17 PM
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QUOTE(dinox @ Nov 25 2012, 11:04 AM) I think demand is still good for the area. 6 units left out of 200 units. These sort of sales numbers is pretty enviable as the launch is only done some weeks ago. Still BBB |
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Nov 25 2012, 04:38 PM
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QUOTE(dinox @ Nov 25 2012, 11:04 AM) I think demand is still good for the area. 6 units left out of 200 units. These sort of sales numbers is pretty enviable as the launch is only done some weeks ago. Demand really so good? Nova almost sold out. Ara Green pricing, ppl oso willing to buy. Hijauan sell quietly also can sold a lot. Now, Verde by Villamas also left 6 units only. Somemore Villamas. Good significance of the market condo in this area??? The narket seems prove I am wrong but how come Ara Hills tak jadi? Lol. |
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Nov 25 2012, 04:38 PM
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QUOTE(accetera @ Nov 25 2012, 01:34 AM) left 6 units as of afternoon... wowow very good sales for Phase 1 preview launch... another BBB project how much is the price? |
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Nov 25 2012, 04:40 PM
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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Nov 25 2012, 04:38 PM) Demand really so good? Ara hill and oasis also tak jadi hardly sell or rent. Nova almost sold out. Ara Green pricing, ppl oso willing to buy. Hijauan sell quietly also can sold a lot. Now, Verde by Villamas also left 6 units only. Somemore Villamas. Good significance of the market condo in this area??? The narket seems prove I am wrong but how come Ara Hills tak jadi? Lol. Many too many rich person around these area able to buy and hold for long long time even no rental or cant sell. |
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Nov 25 2012, 04:45 PM
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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Nov 25 2012, 04:38 PM) Demand really so good? actually it depends on how you look at ara hill. i was there during the launch of ara hill and they were only selling for RM360 psf, summore got a little discount. currently, i do not think you can buy it for that price. i think the going price now is between 450-500psf. Nova almost sold out. Ara Green pricing, ppl oso willing to buy. Hijauan sell quietly also can sold a lot. Now, Verde by Villamas also left 6 units only. Somemore Villamas. Good significance of the market condo in this area??? The narket seems prove I am wrong but how come Ara Hills tak jadi? Lol. coupled with the fact most resident in ara d'sara are pretty cash rich, a lot do not care if appreciation is slow as they have holding power. most important, the price does not go below it's initial price. |
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Nov 25 2012, 04:52 PM
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QUOTE(RomaNce @ Nov 25 2012, 04:40 PM) Ara hill and oasis also tak jadi hardly sell or rent. Haha. U took the point. Many too many rich person around these area able to buy and hold for long long time even no rental or cant sell. I nvr believe SD anymore. Oasis I no opinion. For Ara Hill, I know a lot of super mega rich Malay Datuks and Tan Sri are owners. It was not really a good sign but they rather hold it 5-10 years and bring more vacant number, so end up, Ara Hill not hot and tak jadi. Its not they not untung now, but they just wanna keep, not for sell nor rent. Gila. No transaction how to bring up the value of the location? I know Ara Green sold to a lot frens, relatives, contractors and etc. Malton, I dunno who are their Nova buyers are genuine a not. Villamas? I see a lot genuine buyers no matter they had bad record of workmanship and detects. I had 5 frens asked my opinion abt Villamas, I asked all of em try to avoid if can, esp investment, but 2 of them still buy. Credit to Villamas? Lol. |
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Nov 27 2012, 03:59 PM
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I went to Atmosfera to have a quick read.. the last 3 pages. Although there are so many complains etc, there are still people wanting to buy units there.
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Nov 27 2012, 04:14 PM
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private preview block c this coming friday.only those who registered can enter.price 5% increment.
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Nov 27 2012, 05:56 PM
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QUOTE(maryjane9996 @ Nov 27 2012, 04:14 PM) private preview block c this coming friday.only those who registered can enter.price 5% increment. 5% increment is ok leh....not as much as speculated. |
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Nov 27 2012, 06:11 PM
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QUOTE(maryjane9996 @ Nov 27 2012, 04:14 PM) private preview block c this coming friday.only those who registered can enter.price 5% increment. Verde Block C how many units?I think 5% increased was quite fair. |
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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Nov 27 2012, 06:11 PM) Verde Block C how many units? Look-see-look-see first - Might not be so good le !! I think 5% increased was quite fair. Checkout orientation - Block C is side by side just next to first launched block D, E, F of Ara Green !! |
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Nov 29 2012, 10:26 AM
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rental can cover?
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Nov 29 2012, 10:33 AM
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QUOTE(faithy @ Nov 29 2012, 08:27 AM) Look-see-look-see first - Might not be so good le !! Look-see-look-see first?Checkout orientation - Block C is side by side just next to first launched block D, E, F of Ara Green !! What u mean bro? |
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Nov 29 2012, 02:00 PM
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QUOTE(airline @ Nov 29 2012, 10:26 AM) rental can cover? dun think ara damansara is able to fetch RM4k rental. but if we consider rental yield before buying, honestly, then nothing is good value out there. Instalment around 4k already general rule of thumb is, every RM200psf would require RM1 psf rental to break even |
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Nov 29 2012, 03:38 PM
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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Nov 27 2012, 06:11 PM) Verde Block C how many units? 87unit bro.I think 5% increased was quite fair. This post has been edited by maryjane9996: Nov 29 2012, 03:38 PM |
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Nov 29 2012, 03:39 PM
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Still deciding to buy a not
Since down payment so little |
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Nov 29 2012, 09:31 PM
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QUOTE(maryjane9996 @ Nov 29 2012, 03:38 PM) 87unit bro. i tot both remaining blocks are launched the same time |
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Nov 29 2012, 09:59 PM
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QUOTE(airline @ Nov 29 2012, 03:39 PM) Still deciding to buy a not how much for downpayment?Since down payment so little |
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Nov 29 2012, 10:20 PM
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Is the private preview tomorrow or Saturday?
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Nov 29 2012, 10:56 PM
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Nothing private about it. Anyone can go & everyone already knows. Just go TTDI plaza uninvited still they'll welcome u w open arms haha.
Good luck buyers & those interested |
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Nov 29 2012, 11:42 PM
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BBB
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Nov 30 2012, 12:13 PM
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Wow.. the response was tremendous. Peoples are queueing to buy... luckily got my unit... hooray
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Nov 30 2012, 12:43 PM
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Wah, queuing to buy.......!!!!! Despite all the comments on the developer.
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Nov 30 2012, 12:50 PM
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Why dont take balance unit?
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Nov 30 2012, 04:40 PM
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Heard the launch today saw 50% units sold. That is really quite a feat considering the developer only officially launch the sales tomorrow.
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Nov 30 2012, 06:44 PM
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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Nov 29 2012, 10:33 AM) Look-see-look-see first? haha - mean "kan-kan" in Chinese ! What u mean bro? I went look-see-look-see today. Must consider carefully right, it is not like buying veggies in market ! |
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Nov 30 2012, 11:06 PM
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yesterday went there and see, SA said no more unit leave for 1st 2blocks.
only can wait for block C open. price slightly increase RM20 psf |
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Dec 1 2012, 01:43 PM
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QUOTE(dinox @ Nov 30 2012, 04:40 PM) Heard the launch today saw 50% units sold. That is really quite a feat considering the developer only officially launch the sales tomorrow. Anybody know how is the sales for block c up to now? |
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Dec 1 2012, 02:10 PM
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Why everyone looking to see sales response
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Dec 1 2012, 03:22 PM
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Cos there is 2 camps in this forum. One optimistic on the project and another is septical on developer to do a good job.
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Dec 1 2012, 06:16 PM
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Today I went to check out the gallery, the sales is quite good.
At that time, the 1383 sqft units in Tower C was 91.6% taken up. The price per sqft increased only by 1.8-2% compared to the first launch. Maybe due to the units facing west (or north west). |
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Dec 1 2012, 09:28 PM
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Still BBB it seems ..
Any sales chart to share? |
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Dec 1 2012, 09:33 PM
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QUOTE(Accountant82 @ Dec 1 2012, 06:16 PM) Today I went to check out the gallery, the sales is quite good. Just now receive sms fr SA ,the sales for block c reach 75percent . Feel more confident with this project..At that time, the 1383 sqft units in Tower C was 91.6% taken up. The price per sqft increased only by 1.8-2% compared to the first launch. Maybe due to the units facing west (or north west). |
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Dec 1 2012, 09:41 PM
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Almost sell out lah for Tower C
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Dec 1 2012, 09:44 PM
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QUOTE(accetera @ Dec 1 2012, 09:41 PM) Almost sell out lah for Tower C Amazing. |
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Dec 1 2012, 09:47 PM
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All the 1383 sqft in tower C kena sapu already.
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Dec 1 2012, 10:30 PM
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unbelievable............!!!!! simply unbelievable!!!!
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Dec 1 2012, 11:49 PM
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From star fair or sales office
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Dec 1 2012, 11:53 PM
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Many buying for own stay? Or many buying for investmemt? 4k installment a month and rental max 2k....mean 2k negative cash flow per month ...a lot of rich ppl there.
Or one wok cooked? |
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Dec 1 2012, 11:56 PM
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Investor 70 percent, instalment lower?
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Dec 2 2012, 12:15 AM
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QUOTE(RomaNce @ Dec 1 2012, 11:53 PM) Many buying for own stay? Or many buying for investmemt? 4k installment a month and rental max 2k....mean 2k negative cash flow per month ...a lot of rich ppl there. Bro, how did u come out with 4k installment per month?Or one wok cooked? |
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Dec 2 2012, 12:24 AM
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Ehh who say got property slowdown? Mana ada???
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Dec 2 2012, 08:41 AM
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QUOTE(1282009 @ Dec 2 2012, 12:15 AM) Bro, how did u come out with 4k installment per month? The purchase price is about 800k right? |
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Dec 2 2012, 09:53 AM
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Installment RM4K will depend on the max loan up to 70 years. Lets say correct la the RM4K installment but rental is RM2K, thats gila man! If I wanna get such a bad rental yield, i might as well shoot up higher and get very expensive landed house
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Dec 2 2012, 11:11 AM
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so Amint kor, do u now agree prop price is unsustainable?
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Dec 2 2012, 01:07 PM
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QUOTE(accetera @ Dec 2 2012, 12:24 AM) Ehh who say got property slowdown? Mana ada??? malaysia is still early for slowdown not like europe or US where the music has stopped....our music time is still at opening mode...not yet halfway listen...not a single silence |
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Dec 2 2012, 01:34 PM
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No more bull run for sure. Dont expect similar returns like last 3 yrs. Few yrs down to te road...avg return should b max ard 20 to 30pc. My 2 cent. Some crazy psf dev ll even suffer. Better buy smartly than jus locx3 as i see developers priced it for futurex2 pricing for gd loc. More n more challenging n difficult to get gd buy. But i still think there are available out there. Those simply whack strategies which worked last few yrs ll see them bite bullets soon.
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Dec 2 2012, 04:58 PM
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The property investment follows a cycle.
If we had bought any property the last 5 years, you will more likely than not gain super profits. But if you buy now, the profits accumulation will be slower as we are either at the end of the cycle or begining. It will peak again. So the holding power is critical. But I don't think you will burn yourself if you buy from developer now even if you don't have the holding power. More likely to breakeven in the worse case scenario as property price in Klang Valley rarely drop below developer price. Further, a lot of development now is DIBS or ISS hence you will not lose the interest as well. Just my 2cent view. |
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Dec 2 2012, 07:52 PM
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QUOTE(Accountant82 @ Dec 2 2012, 04:58 PM) The property investment follows a cycle. Holding power is a must. If installment 4k and cant rent out for one year, total pay out will be 48k. Second year only able to sell....how much to sell? Sell it at 800k as same as purchase price and will be a loss. If sell at 800k plus 48k plus 16k agent fees plus 24k bank penalty plus about 6 to 8 k rpgt will be total 896k only breakeven. If 2yrs cant rent cant sell and the owner still can hold is good...when want to sell will be 944k only breakeven....this price can sell? Landed how much....think think think.If we had bought any property the last 5 years, you will more likely than not gain super profits. But if you buy now, the profits accumulation will be slower as we are either at the end of the cycle or begining. It will peak again. So the holding power is critical. But I don't think you will burn yourself if you buy from developer now even if you don't have the holding power. More likely to breakeven in the worse case scenario as property price in Klang Valley rarely drop below developer price. Further, a lot of development now is DIBS or ISS hence you will not lose the interest as well. Just my 2cent view. No holding power will not burnt but will kena lelong if the buyer is only an employee with monthly salary minimum 10k gross or 8.5k gross. Will be negative investment. |
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Dec 2 2012, 09:40 PM
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Firstly, a lot of bank offers no exit penalty or 3 years from first drawdown. So the 24k can be saved.
Secondly, if the property market is slow, agent fee also can be discounted. I seen before agent only charging 1%. Then you saved 8k. Thirdly, there is an exemption of RM10,000 or 10% of the chargeable gains, which ever is the higher. So the RM6k to RM8k is saved. You should know whether you have holding power on day one when you buy the property. If no holding power, you should be looking for purchaser before VP to lock in the subsale. The market valuation upon VP (assume 3 years later) can easily be 10% higher than SPA. Landed properties 3 years later will also increase but I think should be more than 10%. Say if you sell at 10% higher, ie RM880k. No RPGT as 80kX10% is RM8k<RM10k. Agent fee is RM18k. Legal fee is RM1k. Say it will take 3 months to complete the transaction, you will pay RM12k installments. You have net gain of RM49k. For Verde, since only RM10k downpayment, your IRR would be 490% over 3 years. For other project where you have to pay 10% downpayment ie RM80k, you would have IRR of 61% which is also significantly higher than investment in FD and most shares, unit trust and insurance. The only thing is the oppurtunity cost of being able to buy a higher return property. Just my 2cent view. This post has been edited by Accountant82: Dec 2 2012, 09:56 PM |
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Dec 2 2012, 09:52 PM
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I am agreeable with you Accountant82!!
 Indeed, our IRR is greater than developer, only that we need to take risks for timely completion. Anyway, gains/ returns does comes with risks, the higher the risk more higher the gain! |
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Dec 2 2012, 10:55 PM
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QUOTE(Accountant82 @ Dec 2 2012, 09:40 PM) Firstly, a lot of bank offers no exit penalty or 3 years from first drawdown. So the 24k can be saved. IRR?Secondly, if the property market is slow, agent fee also can be discounted. I seen before agent only charging 1%. Then you saved 8k. Thirdly, there is an exemption of RM10,000 or 10% of the chargeable gains, which ever is the higher. So the RM6k to RM8k is saved. You should know whether you have holding power on day one when you buy the property. If no holding power, you should be looking for purchaser before VP to lock in the subsale. The market valuation upon VP (assume 3 years later) can easily be 10% higher than SPA. Landed properties 3 years later will also increase but I think should be more than 10%. Say if you sell at 10% higher, ie RM880k. No RPGT as 80kX10% is RM8k<RM10k. Agent fee is RM18k. Legal fee is RM1k. Say it will take 3 months to complete the transaction, you will pay RM12k installments. You have net gain of RM49k. For Verde, since only RM10k downpayment, your IRR would be 490% over 3 years. For other project where you have to pay 10% downpayment ie RM80k, you would have IRR of 61% which is also significantly higher than investment in FD and most shares, unit trust and insurance. The only thing is the oppurtunity cost of being able to buy a higher return property. Just my 2cent view. |
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Dec 2 2012, 11:07 PM
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IRR = Profit/Cost of investment X 100%
It's what I use to estimate my rate of return. Sorry for the confusion. This post has been edited by Accountant82: Dec 2 2012, 11:31 PM |
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Dec 3 2012, 12:02 AM
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QUOTE(Accountant82 @ Dec 2 2012, 11:07 PM) It's what I use to estimate my rate of return. Sorry for the confusion. Np, It's good that you know which game you're playing and what player you are. |
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Dec 5 2012, 11:24 AM
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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Dec 3 2012, 12:02 AM) Ohh ic. I call it COCR ( Cash On Capital Return ) Why is it "No RPGT as 80kX10% is RM8k<RM10k." ??Np, It's good that you know which game you're playing and what player you are. |
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Dec 5 2012, 12:43 PM
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I foresee a lot of cursing and tears few years down the road. have u heard of design so bad that penthouse's balcony has no roof? take a look at Atmosfera. now the owner is stuck. condo mgmt don't allow add on, even at own costs. no roof also damn problematic.
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Dec 5 2012, 12:57 PM
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I thought is Like hotel... Got concierge
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Dec 5 2012, 01:04 PM
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QUOTE(cockee @ Dec 5 2012, 12:43 PM) I foresee a lot of cursing and tears few years down the road. have u heard of design so bad that penthouse's balcony has no roof? take a look at Atmosfera. now the owner is stuck. condo mgmt don't allow add on, even at own costs. no roof also damn problematic. If it's the original design, then nothing to complain about. Good point about having no roof on penthouse's balcony - one can enjoy the clear night star view n also bbq? |
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Dec 5 2012, 04:54 PM
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QUOTE(cockee @ Dec 5 2012, 12:43 PM) I foresee a lot of cursing and tears few years down the road. have u heard of design so bad that penthouse's balcony has no roof? take a look at Atmosfera. now the owner is stuck. condo mgmt don't allow add on, even at own costs. no roof also damn problematic. +1Added on December 5, 2012, 4:55 pm QUOTE(airline @ Dec 5 2012, 12:57 PM) I thought is Like hotel... Got concierge & so u thought.This post has been edited by HouseToLive: Dec 5 2012, 04:55 PM |
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Dec 5 2012, 09:13 PM
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QUOTE(faithy @ Dec 5 2012, 11:24 AM) Why is it "No RPGT as 80kX10% is RM8k<RM10k." ?? There is an exemption. No RPGT if the RPGT payable is less than RM10k. |
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Dec 5 2012, 09:19 PM
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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Dec 2 2012, 10:55 PM) IRR? Investment Return Rate |
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Dec 6 2012, 11:13 AM
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QUOTE(Accountant82 @ Dec 5 2012, 09:13 PM) There is an exemption. No RPGT if the RPGT payable is less than RM10k. Oh, first 10K gain is exempted, so remaining 70K is chargeable RPGT then , right ?Added on December 6, 2012, 11:21 am QUOTE(faithy @ Dec 6 2012, 11:13 AM) Oh, first 10K gain is exempted, so remaining 70K is chargeable RPGT then , right ? Chargeable gain is nett of legal ..etc ? If payable 10% x gain = RPGT payable is more than 10K then must pay in full then no exemption ? So if gain is less than 100K, no RPGT lo !!This post has been edited by faithy: Dec 6 2012, 11:21 AM |
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Dec 6 2012, 12:20 PM
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QUOTE(faithy @ Dec 6 2012, 11:13 AM) Oh, first 10K gain is exempted, so remaining 70K is chargeable RPGT then , right ? Well, chargeable gain is calculated from the original price listed on the s+p. so let say u get 10% rebate from developer and upon vp, u sell at the the original price....u r exempted from RPGt as you technically did not gain from sellin the property but only breaking even. But from cash flow perspective, u gain about 10%Added on December 6, 2012, 11:21 am Chargeable gain is nett of legal ..etc ? If payable 10% x gain = RPGT payable is more than 10K then must pay in full then no exemption ? So if gain is less than 100K, no RPGT lo !! |
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Dec 9 2012, 09:03 AM
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Anybody had signed s&p ? Since legal fee is free , how much is the disburment fee for bank ? Stamp duty is 0.5 x loan amount? Any bank offer better rate than blr - 2.4 ?
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Dec 9 2012, 06:02 PM
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normally all bank offer 2.45 with MRTA! any idea who is the contractor for verde??
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Dec 11 2012, 04:58 PM
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Has anybody signed s&p yet? Heard from 2 banks, there are problem with Verde documentation, is that true? Please advise. Thanks
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Dec 11 2012, 09:27 PM
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If prob with docs, it should impact the loan docs right and not the s+p!!!
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Dec 11 2012, 09:46 PM
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QUOTE(corby @ Dec 11 2012, 04:58 PM) Has anybody signed s&p yet? Heard from 2 banks, there are problem with Verde documentation, is that true? Please advise. Thanks Woah, interesting... I wonder what problem is there in such an early stage besides the Villamas repo. |
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Dec 11 2012, 10:06 PM
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QUOTE(corby @ Dec 11 2012, 05:58 PM) Has anybody signed s&p yet? Heard from 2 banks, there are problem with Verde documentation, is that true? Please advise. Thanks Signed S & P a week ago. I have no problem in getting the loan. |
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Dec 12 2012, 12:21 AM
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I don't think got problem at all. The problem is some of the bank slow updating their system from other branches.
Heard from banker friend in charge of this project there are quite number of purchaser loan approved & signed the S&P. |
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Dec 12 2012, 02:17 AM
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Hi, is there anyone have any enquiry or interested to apply housing loan please feel freeto pm or contact me at 012-6115502 (Cassandra)
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Dec 12 2012, 08:56 AM
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QUOTE(Cass.Goh @ Dec 12 2012, 02:17 AM) Hi, is there anyone have any enquiry or interested to apply housing loan please feel freeto pm or contact me at 012-6115502 (Cassandra) Any pre-approval services? |
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Dec 12 2012, 09:26 AM
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What loan u take
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Dec 12 2012, 09:38 AM
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QUOTE(airline @ Dec 12 2012, 09:26 AM) What loan u take Who? Me? |
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Dec 12 2012, 09:43 AM
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Those who buy this lo
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Dec 12 2012, 09:53 AM
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QUOTE(airline @ Dec 12 2012, 09:43 AM) Those who buy this lo Sorry, I terperasan |
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Dec 12 2012, 02:34 PM
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hey no problem with the s & p, and applied 5 banks loan all the bank approved. cimb, ocbc, maybank, aliance , public bank. So no worries man! just wondering who is the contractor for this project. thats what everyone concern. villamas should find a better contractor. !!!! THAT IS IMPORTANT!!
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Dec 15 2012, 09:33 PM
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QUOTE(milehigh group @ Dec 12 2012, 02:34 PM) hey no problem with the s & p, and applied 5 banks loan all the bank approved. cimb, ocbc, maybank, aliance , public bank. So no worries man! just wondering who is the contractor for this project. thats what everyone concern. villamas should find a better contractor. !!!! THAT IS IMPORTANT!! What's the best loan deal u recieved? From which bank? Anyone knows how is the sales through for the 3 blocks that already launched? And when the final block will be launched? ? Thanks |
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Dec 16 2012, 01:04 AM
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QUOTE(milehigh group @ Dec 12 2012, 02:34 PM) hey no problem with the s & p, and applied 5 banks loan all the bank approved. cimb, ocbc, maybank, aliance , public bank. So no worries man! just wondering who is the contractor for this project. thats what everyone concern. villamas should find a better contractor. !!!! THAT IS IMPORTANT!! Then did you question the developer, which contractor they are using? |
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Dec 16 2012, 09:19 AM
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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Dec 16 2012, 01:04 AM) Then did you question the developer, which contractor they are using? No point asking them la. They always paint a beautiful picture wan. Just cross ur fingers or some might call it "gamble". |
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Dec 16 2012, 09:42 AM
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HouseToLive, are you implying also that AG is also painting their picture good? My opinion is that buying a property is sort of like part 'gambling'. Sometime reputable contractor also may not did their job perfectly, and vice versa.
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Dec 16 2012, 10:00 AM
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QUOTE(prop newbie @ Dec 16 2012, 09:42 AM) HouseToLive, are you implying also that AG is also painting their picture good? My opinion is that buying a property is sort of like part 'gambling'. Sometime reputable contractor also may not did their job perfectly, and vice versa. Possible.It all depends on how reputable a dev is & their past records. A good dev usually don't need to "sell" too hard while people will still kill each other for a piece if it. We've seen too much of projects not meeting the par. Risk is there, it should be a calculated one. This post has been edited by HouseToLive: Dec 16 2012, 10:01 AM |
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Dec 16 2012, 10:15 AM
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QUOTE(Okeydokey @ Dec 15 2012, 09:33 PM) What's the best loan deal u recieved? From which bank? The 3 blocks selling fantastic well. Currently like nothing to sell already. Anyone knows how is the sales through for the 3 blocks that already launched? And when the final block will be launched? ? Thanks Looking forward for the tower B to launch. Asked the sales ppl said most likely will launch on next month. Already put my name in waiting list for tower B and saw a lot of name in the waiting list. |
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Dec 16 2012, 10:25 AM
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QUOTE(Darian28 @ Dec 16 2012, 10:15 AM) The 3 blocks selling fantastic well. Currently like nothing to sell already. good luck to all vested in this, really.Looking forward for the tower B to launch. Asked the sales ppl said most likely will launch on next month. Already put my name in waiting list for tower B and saw a lot of name in the waiting list. |
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Dec 16 2012, 10:30 AM
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QUOTE(Darian28 @ Dec 16 2012, 10:15 AM) The 3 blocks selling fantastic well. Currently like nothing to sell already. Any idea on the psf for the last block they launching?Looking forward for the tower B to launch. Asked the sales ppl said most likely will launch on next month. Already put my name in waiting list for tower B and saw a lot of name in the waiting list. |
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Dec 16 2012, 10:56 AM
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Wow despite all the shooting... Verde is still doing so well... I think buyers are not so stupid to just listen to one side of the story la... Treat them with respect la... They are smart people also one... Somehow, all these shooting seems too predictable and look desperate to bring Verde down. Someone's threatened?
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Dec 16 2012, 11:01 AM
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QUOTE(Okeydokey @ Dec 16 2012, 10:30 AM) Any idea on the psf for the last block they launching? Average RM600 psf. After discount probably in RM560-570psf ? I guess |
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Something more fantastic coming out at that area. Cheaper, better in terms of quality, better location just right behing citta mall and by super reputable developer! This development is more convenient and sure safe lower risk.
Another coming up is right next to pacific place, cheaper, better location and better developer too!! Both of these march 2013! |
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Dec 16 2012, 11:55 AM
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QUOTE(RomaNce @ Dec 16 2012, 11:47 AM) Something more fantastic coming out at that area. Cheaper, better in terms of quality, better location just right behing citta mall and by super reputable developer! This development is more convenient and sure safe lower risk. Go back do your homework first la... typical chinaman...Another coming up is right next to pacific place, cheaper, better location and better developer too!! Both of these march 2013! |
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Dec 16 2012, 12:19 PM
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QUOTE(RomaNce @ Dec 16 2012, 11:47 AM) Something more fantastic coming out at that area. Cheaper, better in terms of quality, better location just right behing citta mall and by super reputable developer! This development is more convenient and sure safe lower risk. Awesome. Looking forward to these projects. Should threaten those sub standard projects around here.Another coming up is right next to pacific place, cheaper, better location and better developer too!! Both of these march 2013! |
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Dec 16 2012, 12:34 PM
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QUOTE(HouseToLive @ Dec 16 2012, 12:19 PM) Awesome. Looking forward to these projects. Should threaten those sub standard projects around here. really ?? there are still cheaper project around that area ? good news to consumers ... not sure should i gamble to wait , or just go for verde final block.. kinda worry on rumour..  |
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Dec 16 2012, 12:41 PM
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QUOTE(Greenday21 @ Dec 16 2012, 12:34 PM) really ?? there are still cheaper project around that area ? good news to consumers ... not sure should i gamble to wait , or just go for verde final block.. kinda worry on rumour.. best is to do some research & follow ur instinct. |
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Dec 16 2012, 12:43 PM
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QUOTE(RomaNce @ Dec 16 2012, 11:47 AM) Something more fantastic coming out at that area. Cheaper, better in terms of quality, better location just right behing citta mall and by super reputable developer! This development is more convenient and sure safe lower risk. Are u referring to 1 of the 2 to the See Hoi Chan deployment?Another coming up is right next to pacific place, cheaper, better location and better developer too!! Both of these march 2013! |
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Dec 16 2012, 12:46 PM
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QUOTE(RomaNce @ Dec 16 2012, 11:47 AM) Something more fantastic coming out at that area. Cheaper, better in terms of quality, better location just right behing citta mall and by super reputable developer! This development is more convenient and sure safe lower risk. Yo bro !! Are you talking about the new project by See Hoy Chan, it is behind the Citta Mall is it.Another coming up is right next to pacific place, cheaper, better location and better developer too!! Both of these march 2013! I give a call to SHC the land is leasehold and about 7.1 acres with 700 ++ units, starting with RM650 psf. How you say is cheaper leh. Can you tell us what new project coming up next to Pacific Place. The PP last time is a dump site and it is leasehold. I assume the land next to PP also leasehold. I still searching for the best buy now. Please tell me which 1 is good buy ? Thanks... |
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Dec 16 2012, 12:51 PM
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QUOTE(JuniorBuyer @ Dec 16 2012, 12:46 PM) Yo bro !! Are you talking about the new project by See Hoy Chan, it is behind the Citta Mall is it. wow, luckily u called I give a call to SHC the land is leasehold and about 7.1 acres with 700 ++ units, starting with RM650 psf. How you say is cheaper leh. Can you tell us what new project coming up next to Pacific Place. The PP last time is a dump site and it is leasehold. I assume the land next to PP also leasehold. I still searching for the best buy now. Please tell me which 1 is good buy ? Thanks... .. leasehold n 650 psf ?? omg... it seems like i better call them to clarify too , cant 100% trust those cheaper rumours... |
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Dec 16 2012, 12:52 PM
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QUOTE(Greenday21 @ Dec 16 2012, 12:51 PM) wow, luckily u called Even LH but RM 650 per sf, it would be damm cheap for a SHC product ... .. leasehold n 650 psf ?? omg... it seems like i better call them to clarify too , cant 100% trust those cheaper rumours... |
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Dec 16 2012, 12:54 PM
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I think the LH u guys mentioned is the one next to PP, not behind Citta mall right?
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Dec 16 2012, 12:57 PM
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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Dec 16 2012, 12:52 PM) Even LH but RM 650 per sf, it would be damm cheap for a SHC product ... but as i know, SHC normally dont give any discount package or low downpayment scheme.. it is really hard for medium range buyer like me .. >.<'' |
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Dec 16 2012, 01:13 PM
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Now wait for RomaNce to tell us what is the new development next to PP loh. It is good to have more choice to choose.
But I afraid that the PP area too many units already. Eve Suite 700 ++ units PP 1200 ++ units The new development next to PP also donno how many units loh. Imagine 50% of the total units at that area sell and rent. That really need a lot of holding power to hold loh. |
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Dec 16 2012, 01:28 PM
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QUOTE(Greenday21 @ Dec 16 2012, 12:57 PM) but as i know, SHC normally dont give any discount package or low downpayment scheme.. it is really hard for medium range buyer like me .. >.<'' SHC got two groups one... Hopefully not the group who built Bukit Utama 9. That one lousy build-up and design. Outdated. If it is the one who did the Uptown one then should be ok. More modern and nicer. Then again SHC always think they damn big like very 'ba bei'. So no need give much discount... They have to think again... times are not as good as last time. This time if they give good packaging then maybe can sell well... |
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Dec 16 2012, 01:30 PM
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QUOTE(Greenday21 @ Dec 16 2012, 12:57 PM) but as i know, SHC normally dont give any discount package or low downpayment scheme.. it is really hard for medium range buyer like me .. >.<'' Any big developers shouldn't do this to protect their image. Imagine, how bad their reputation if they only can sell via 10% discount or multi deal entry.Yes, it's really hard for us, to buy any product of SHC, that's why being their buyer, you will feel exclusiveness of being one of the riches. Hahaha. |
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Dec 16 2012, 01:38 PM
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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Dec 16 2012, 01:30 PM) Any big developers shouldn't do this to protect their image. Imagine, how bad their reputation if they only can sell via 10% discount or multi deal entry. ya i know that exclusiveness, but i have to back to reality , cant make myself suffering just to enjoy that riches feeling right ?? pity me .... Yes, it's really hard for us, to buy any product of SHC, that's why being their buyer, you will feel exclusiveness of being one of the riches. Hahaha. |
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Dec 16 2012, 01:59 PM
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QUOTE(Greenday21 @ Dec 16 2012, 01:38 PM) ya i know that exclusiveness, but i have to back to reality , cant make myself suffering just to enjoy that riches feeling right ?? pity me .... Yeah, back to reality. Pity me too. Sooner or later, I will no longer able to buy anything from top or high end developers. |
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Dec 16 2012, 02:24 PM
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Off course when buying a property, either for own stay or investment, one must really calculate the property potential. We should invest/ buy something which, will give us values eventually. Some developers already calculated in the future prices to sell their property at current venue. Whereas some developers only calculated a portion so that their buyers will eventually benefited from buying their property.
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Dec 16 2012, 02:31 PM
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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Dec 16 2012, 01:59 PM) Yeah, back to reality. Pity me too. Sooner or later, I will no longer able to buy anything from top or high end developers. +1That's the problem with established developers. When they are too big... U guys are small fry to them... But i still think SHC can do well if handled by the UPTOWN group. They have to adapt to the ever changing market condition. |
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Dec 16 2012, 04:42 PM
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QUOTE(Brainyone @ Dec 16 2012, 02:31 PM) +1 Hei chinaman....u really need to do your homework but not me.That's the problem with established developers. When they are too big... U guys are small fry to them... But i still think SHC can do well if handled by the UPTOWN group. They have to adapt to the ever changing market condition. Shc behing citta mall and the other one next to PP both are walking distance to the lrt and the mall. These 2 also will have better management because of reputable developer. Then these two, even how lousy their workmanship, i believe still better than verde. In terms of everything, for own stay, will be better security and quality. In terms or rental or investment will be easier to rent or appreciate because of the design, quality, security and conveniences. Anyway, i am not agent, i am not promoting anything here. Is up t the buyers to choose. I just one of the investors in the market having some infor before launch. For me, verde might be good for those hardly pay 10% downpayment or for those not too choosy or just too rich to sapu. Investment always look at locaton, developer history, pricing and quality. I also like verde price psf but big units. Shc and another developmemt have small units which i been waiting since a year ago. |
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Dec 16 2012, 05:03 PM
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QUOTE(RomaNce @ Dec 16 2012, 04:42 PM) Hei chinaman....u really need to do your homework but not me. What is the new development next to PP ler. Can share with us ???Shc behing citta mall and the other one next to PP both are walking distance to the lrt and the mall. These 2 also will have better management because of reputable developer. Then these two, even how lousy their workmanship, i believe still better than verde. In terms of everything, for own stay, will be better security and quality. In terms or rental or investment will be easier to rent or appreciate because of the design, quality, security and conveniences. Anyway, i am not agent, i am not promoting anything here. Is up t the buyers to choose. I just one of the investors in the market having some infor before launch. For me, verde might be good for those hardly pay 10% downpayment or for those not too choosy or just too rich to sapu. Investment always look at locaton, developer history, pricing and quality. I also like verde price psf but big units. Shc and another developmemt have small units which i been waiting since a year ago. |
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Dec 16 2012, 05:25 PM
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QUOTE(RomaNce @ Dec 16 2012, 04:42 PM) Hei chinaman....u really need to do your homework but not me. LOL chinaman cannot handle criticism.. instead being so judgemental becos Verde also havent been built then already say people's workmanship lousy. Small brain people memang like this... SHC also havent build also u say better design and quality... u this kind of people memang only know how to talk nonsense. How old are you kid?Shc behing citta mall and the other one next to PP both are walking distance to the lrt and the mall. These 2 also will have better management because of reputable developer. Then these two, even how lousy their workmanship, i believe still better than verde. In terms of everything, for own stay, will be better security and quality. In terms or rental or investment will be easier to rent or appreciate because of the design, quality, security and conveniences. Anyway, i am not agent, i am not promoting anything here. Is up t the buyers to choose. I just one of the investors in the market having some infor before launch. For me, verde might be good for those hardly pay 10% downpayment or for those not too choosy or just too rich to sapu. Investment always look at locaton, developer history, pricing and quality. I also like verde price psf but big units. Shc and another developmemt have small units which i been waiting since a year ago. You said investment always look at location ar? come on la.... if u already know so much then share la... noob. dont just know how to be judgemental but all base on assumptions... typical chinaman... Investor your head la... u must be one lousy investor wasting your life here with shallow comments. |
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Dec 16 2012, 06:10 PM
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QUOTE(RomaNce @ Dec 16 2012, 04:42 PM) Hei chinaman....u really need to do your homework but not me. erm, i am not sure who are you, but how do u know the design from SHC is better ? are you any of the staff from SHC ? how is quality of verde or any other on-going project i guess no people will know until it is completed. Shc behing citta mall and the other one next to PP both are walking distance to the lrt and the mall. These 2 also will have better management because of reputable developer. Then these two, even how lousy their workmanship, i believe still better than verde. In terms of everything, for own stay, will be better security and quality. In terms or rental or investment will be easier to rent or appreciate because of the design, quality, security and conveniences. Anyway, i am not agent, i am not promoting anything here. Is up t the buyers to choose. I just one of the investors in the market having some infor before launch. For me, verde might be good for those hardly pay 10% downpayment or for those not too choosy or just too rich to sapu. Investment always look at locaton, developer history, pricing and quality. I also like verde price psf but big units. Shc and another developmemt have small units which i been waiting since a year ago. i am interested in ara damansara area too, need to gather more info. |
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Dec 16 2012, 06:34 PM
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QUOTE(Brainyone @ Dec 16 2012, 05:25 PM) LOL chinaman cannot handle criticism.. instead being so judgemental becos Verde also havent been built then already say people's workmanship lousy. Small brain people memang like this... SHC also havent build also u say better design and quality... u this kind of people memang only know how to talk nonsense. How old are you kid? Quality wise, may to refer Zefer (1st Villamas high end condo) upon it's completed for indication.. I believe Zefer will complete earlier than Verde |
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Dec 16 2012, 06:46 PM
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QUOTE(Greenday21 @ Dec 16 2012, 06:10 PM) erm, i am not sure who are you, but how do u know the design from SHC is better ? are you any of the staff from SHC ? how is quality of verde or any other on-going project i guess no people will know until it is completed. Ya loh !!! You see how RomaNce tell us there is a new developments near to CittaMall and next to PP also dun want to let us know who is the developer is.i am interested in ara damansara area too, need to gather more info. All keep for ownself only.  Can I know what is the new development near to PP. Is it 1 of the reputable developer in the market? |
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Dec 16 2012, 06:46 PM
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QUOTE(Greenday21 @ Dec 16 2012, 06:10 PM) erm, i am not sure who are you, but how do u know the design from SHC is better ? are you any of the staff from SHC ? how is quality of verde or any other on-going project i guess no people will know until it is completed. What do you think of the factors made you interested into Ara Damansara??i am interested in ara damansara area too, need to gather more info. Added on December 16, 2012, 6:49 pm QUOTE(abgkik @ Dec 16 2012, 06:34 PM) Quality wise, may to refer Zefer (1st Villamas high end condo) upon it's completed for indication.. I believe Zefer will complete earlier than Verde Serin Residency and Zefer Hills ....This post has been edited by Chris Chew: Dec 16 2012, 06:49 PM |
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Dec 16 2012, 06:58 PM
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QUOTE(abgkik @ Dec 16 2012, 06:34 PM) Quality wise, may to refer Zefer (1st Villamas high end condo) upon it's completed for indication.. I believe Zefer will complete earlier than Verde Ohhh... they have an ongoing project? Then we see their condition first lo... if condition also like shit then we know what to expect for Verde already lo... hahaha. Unless of course they have a good contractor and a reliable project manager. Then maybe it is a different story. But lets stay on the fence first... and observe. |
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Dec 16 2012, 07:14 PM
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I guess if you wanna wait for serin and zefer completion, verde would have been sold out already...
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Dec 16 2012, 07:20 PM
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QUOTE(abgkik @ Dec 16 2012, 06:34 PM) Quality wise, may to refer Zefer (1st Villamas high end condo) upon it's completed for indication.. I believe Zefer will complete earlier than Verde Villamas talk only one la.... when they launch Atmosfera, they say tats their 1st highend luxury condo... when they launch Zefer, they again say Zefer is their 1st highend condo... now verde thier new 1st highend condo again?? |
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Dec 16 2012, 07:30 PM
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Err.. excuse me. Are we comparing Villamas' workmanship vs SHC's?
Yea, both haven't completed so the best way is to look at past record. In that case, then it's like comparing heaven to hell. Villamas is bad beyond belief.. |
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Dec 16 2012, 08:46 PM
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QUOTE(Brainyone @ Dec 16 2012, 05:25 PM) LOL chinaman cannot handle criticism.. instead being so judgemental becos Verde also havent been built then already say people's workmanship lousy. Small brain people memang like this... SHC also havent build also u say better design and quality... u this kind of people memang only know how to talk nonsense. How old are you kid? Well, i believe i can call u kid with my experience, my properties, my knowledge and my wealth. Wasting time to argue with u...You said investment always look at location ar? come on la.... if u already know so much then share la... noob. dont just know how to be judgemental but all base on assumptions... typical chinaman... Investor your head la... u must be one lousy investor wasting your life here with shallow comments. My suggestion here is just to let those buyers to choose what they feel is worth for them. Added on December 16, 2012, 8:52 pm QUOTE(cockee @ Dec 16 2012, 07:30 PM) Err.. excuse me. Are we comparing Villamas' workmanship vs SHC's? Yea, both haven't completed so the best way is to look at past record. In that case, then it's like comparing heaven to hell. Villamas is bad beyond belief.. SHC is so powerful, so reputable, own the whole bandar utaman, one utama, damansara utaman...and people here wanna compare villamas with SHC....i just wanna laugh. Is totally no fight with all type of strength. All news are internal and i will not review more about the project next to PP till it is launched. This post has been edited by RomaNce: Dec 16 2012, 08:52 PM |
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Dec 16 2012, 08:59 PM
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QUOTE(RomaNce @ Dec 16 2012, 08:46 PM) Well, i believe i can call u kid with my experience, my properties, my knowledge and my wealth. Wasting time to argue with u... +100000000My suggestion here is just to let those buyers to choose what they feel is worth for them. Added on December 16, 2012, 8:52 pm SHC is so powerful, so reputable, own the whole bandar utaman, one utama, damansara utaman...and people here wanna compare villamas with SHC....i just wanna laugh. Is totally no fight with all type of strength. All news are internal and i will not review more about the project next to PP till it is launched. Its so obvious they're from V know who la. |
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Dec 16 2012, 09:05 PM
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QUOTE(RomaNce @ Dec 16 2012, 08:46 PM) Well, i believe i can call u kid with my experience, my properties, my knowledge and my wealth. Wasting time to argue with u... i get your point, but i think somehow if it is LH , i will not place my bet on it.My suggestion here is just to let those buyers to choose what they feel is worth for them. Added on December 16, 2012, 8:52 pm SHC is so powerful, so reputable, own the whole bandar utaman, one utama, damansara utaman...and people here wanna compare villamas with SHC....i just wanna laugh. Is totally no fight with all type of strength. All news are internal and i will not review more about the project next to PP till it is launched. Added on December 16, 2012, 9:08 pm QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Dec 16 2012, 06:46 PM) What do you think of the factors made you interested into Ara Damansara?? i feel ara is the next upcoming location and kinda convenience to go either PJ, KL or even north south highway back to my hometown.. Added on December 16, 2012, 6:49 pm Serin Residency and Zefer Hills ....  This post has been edited by Greenday21: Dec 16 2012, 09:08 PM |
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Dec 16 2012, 09:16 PM
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QUOTE(RomaNce @ Dec 16 2012, 08:46 PM) Well, i believe i can call u kid with my experience, my properties, my knowledge and my wealth. Wasting time to argue with u... From so call your experience, your property, your knowledge and your wealth.My suggestion here is just to let those buyers to choose what they feel is worth for them. Added on December 16, 2012, 8:52 pm SHC is so powerful, so reputable, own the whole bandar utaman, one utama, damansara utaman...and people here wanna compare villamas with SHC....i just wanna laugh. Is totally no fight with all type of strength. All news are internal and i will not review more about the project next to PP till it is launched. Will the development next to PP a good buy ?? Even you can't reveal something out. Example FH or LH. If LH really need to consider first. |
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Dec 16 2012, 09:51 PM
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Count myself out for a leasehold piece of land. Freehold nowadays are getting lesser and lesser already. Better get myself a freehold rather than a leasehold properties...
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Dec 17 2012, 11:50 AM
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QUOTE(RomaNce @ Dec 16 2012, 08:46 PM) Well, i believe i can call u kid with my experience, my properties, my knowledge and my wealth. Wasting time to argue with u... Yesterday the more I think the more I feel you are like a DEVELOPER PEOPLE or REAL ESTATE AGENTS. Cause you know why ?? My suggestion here is just to let those buyers to choose what they feel is worth for them. Added on December 16, 2012, 8:52 pm SHC is so powerful, so reputable, own the whole bandar utaman, one utama, damansara utaman...and people here wanna compare villamas with SHC....i just wanna laugh. Is totally no fight with all type of strength. All news are internal and i will not review more about the project next to PP till it is launched. Because most of the buyer will share info where is the new coming property in the market but you instead say that " All news are internal and will not reveal untill it is launched". That happens to all developer same as AraGreens last time, same as Verde and SHC also now, wont reveal much at all at the start. Most of the times that people that wont reveal are the people inside or work for the inside. If you are not from that 2 parties why can't reveal it. At lease some basic infomation Who's the Developer it is ? Is it LH or FH ? Roughly how many units they going to have there ? What is the rough PSF ? |
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Dec 17 2012, 10:07 PM
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QUOTE(JuniorBuyer @ Dec 17 2012, 11:50 AM) Yesterday the more I think the more I feel you are like a DEVELOPER PEOPLE or REAL ESTATE AGENTS. Cause you know why ?? Since Brainyone is so intelligent, i believe all buyers should ask him. Because most of the buyer will share info where is the new coming property in the market but you instead say that " All news are internal and will not reveal untill it is launched". That happens to all developer same as AraGreens last time, same as Verde and SHC also now, wont reveal much at all at the start. Most of the times that people that wont reveal are the people inside or work for the inside. If you are not from that 2 parties why can't reveal it. At lease some basic infomation Who's the Developer it is ? Is it LH or FH ? Roughly how many units they going to have there ? What is the rough PSF ? I am not agent, not people with developers but i am friend of them and one of the bulk purchaser. Talk too much and kena blame from stupidone so just let those who wanna jump into the river do their own swimming and searching for dry land. |
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Dec 18 2012, 03:15 AM
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QUOTE(RomaNce @ Dec 17 2012, 10:07 PM) Since Brainyone is so intelligent, i believe all buyers should ask him. LOL !!I am not agent, not people with developers but i am friend of them and one of the bulk purchaser. Talk too much and kena blame from stupidone so just let those who wanna jump into the river do their own swimming and searching for dry land. I donno what's with you and Brainyone problem, or maybe you say something that offended him. But with this post that you post really have offended me.  I assume I'm the "stupidone" that blame you are an agent or the developer people. You still can deny that you are not from 1 of the parties, isn't that easy?? Back to the post that I posted, I post " I feel you are like a DEVELOPER PEOPLE or REAL ESTATE AGENTS " --> Do you understand that. That is not blame. That's is my feeling. I feel that you are.....only. No need to say the "stupid word" coming out from you, that really offend people. That why some war started of because donno how to use the right word at the right time. Back to my last post that I posted, I believe that you so call say that with your experience, your property, you knowledge and your wealth - I assume you have all that. With my polite way to ask you on the last post that Will the development next to PP a good buy ?? Some basic information to share with all ? Who's the Developer it is ? Is it LH or FH ? Roughly how many units they going to have there ? What is the rough PSF ? Isn't that easy question to answer. My thinking. You say you are 1 of the friend and a bulk purchaser for the project next to PP. No wonder you keep say other people project not good loh, because you bought that project already and somemore you are the friend for that developer - i keep assuming you are a friend not a developer people or real estate agent that want to promote own projects and talk bad about other people projects. If let say you really not the 2 parties. Why can't you share with us the new development next to PP since you are the first buy that already buy there. No need to scare other people to grab from you loh, for sure all the nice units have been taken by you already and left those not nice units for us to buy. |
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Dec 18 2012, 11:52 AM
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QUOTE(JuniorBuyer @ Dec 18 2012, 03:15 AM) LOL !! Sorry because i offended u. What i meant is not u but the other stupid guy. I dun share much infor not because i secretive, but is really internal and i cant leak out.I donno what's with you and Brainyone problem, or maybe you say something that offended him. But with this post that you post really have offended me. I assume I'm the "stupidone" that blame you are an agent or the developer people. You still can deny that you are not from 1 of the parties, isn't that easy?? Back to the post that I posted, I post " I feel you are like a DEVELOPER PEOPLE or REAL ESTATE AGENTS " --> Do you understand that. That is not blame. That's is my feeling. I feel that you are.....only. No need to say the "stupid word" coming out from you, that really offend people. That why some war started of because donno how to use the right word at the right time. Back to my last post that I posted, I believe that you so call say that with your experience, your property, you knowledge and your wealth - I assume you have all that. With my polite way to ask you on the last post that Will the development next to PP a good buy ?? Some basic information to share with all ? Who's the Developer it is ? Is it LH or FH ? Roughly how many units they going to have there ? What is the rough PSF ? Isn't that easy question to answer. My thinking. You say you are 1 of the friend and a bulk purchaser for the project next to PP. No wonder you keep say other people project not good loh, because you bought that project already and somemore you are the friend for that developer - i keep assuming you are a friend not a developer people or real estate agent that want to promote own projects and talk bad about other people projects. If let say you really not the 2 parties. Why can't you share with us the new development next to PP since you are the first buy that already buy there. No need to scare other people to grab from you loh, for sure all the nice units have been taken by you already and left those not nice units for us to buy. I dun think i need to explain much on myself and my situation. Anyway, i m not promoting for any of the projects and talking bad of any projects at all. Just give some idea here. If buyers choose to buy Verde or SHC still their choice. We will buy the projects next to PP . We are considering SHC development as well but not interested in Verde at all. This is my personal view. |
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Dec 18 2012, 12:57 PM
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taikor ...
isit G Residence or Jazz Residence ? QUOTE http://alvinyhteo.wordpress.com/2012/11/15/g-residence-pacific-place-ara-damansara-kuala-lumpur/ Yes/No ? No comments ? you teasing us lar boss QUOTE(RomaNce @ Dec 18 2012, 11:52 AM) Sorry because i offended u. What i meant is not u but the other stupid guy. I dun share much infor not because i secretive, but is really internal and i cant leak out. I dun think i need to explain much on myself and my situation. Anyway, i m not promoting for any of the projects and talking bad of any projects at all. Just give some idea here. If buyers choose to buy Verde or SHC still their choice. We will buy the projects next to PP . We are considering SHC development as well but not interested in Verde at all. This is my personal view. |
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Dec 18 2012, 12:58 PM
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Just buy any project next to lrt
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Dec 18 2012, 09:42 PM
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QUOTE(RomaNce @ Dec 17 2012, 10:07 PM) Since Brainyone is so intelligent, i believe all buyers should ask him. Can join in the bulk purchase?I am not agent, not people with developers but i am friend of them and one of the bulk purchaser. Talk too much and kena blame from stupidone so just let those who wanna jump into the river do their own swimming and searching for dry land. |
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Dec 26 2012, 01:05 AM
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Ok..SCH mean good in everything...but look at 9 bukit utama...Million condo look like low cost apartment...Vendor complaining around...
no offend...just buy what you feel suit for your choice... you blaming ppl "stupid" is really pointing to all of the ppl who have just bought Verde. everyone is just gambling no point to ask those ppl put their bet follow with you opinion.. |
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Dec 26 2012, 04:15 PM
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QUOTE(airline @ Dec 18 2012, 12:58 PM) Just buy any project next to lrt MRT better, rite? |
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Dec 26 2012, 04:35 PM
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QUOTE(CMW123 @ Dec 26 2012, 04:15 PM) MRT better, rite? condo near existing LRT are a lot cheaper, so better , haha |
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Dec 26 2012, 05:42 PM
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Why mrt better
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Dec 26 2012, 05:47 PM
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QUOTE(gajian88 @ Dec 26 2012, 01:05 AM) Ok..SCH mean good in everything...but look at 9 bukit utama...Million condo look like low cost apartment...Vendor complaining around... He was saying the other guy stupid only.no offend...just buy what you feel suit for your choice... you blaming ppl "stupid" is really pointing to all of the ppl who have just bought Verde. everyone is just gambling no point to ask those ppl put their bet follow with you opinion.. But he very support the new project next to PP and a bit negative about AraGreens and Verde.  |
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Jan 19 2013, 07:52 PM
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QUOTE(JuniorBuyer @ Dec 26 2012, 05:47 PM) He was saying the other guy stupid only. Any news on the final block launching today? But he very support the new project next to PP and a bit negative about AraGreens and Verde. |
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Jan 20 2013, 01:22 AM
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QUOTE(Okeydokey @ Jan 19 2013, 07:52 PM) Any news on the final block launching today? Huh, final block launch today?Hmm, seems 19/01/2013 is a good date? So many launches today. |
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Feb 4 2013, 09:16 PM
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hi guys, would like to know which contractor was the culprit of Atmosfera's bad workmanship..
and with all the bad feedbacks so far, I hope a better contractor will be awarded for Verde's construction.. |
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Feb 5 2013, 03:32 PM
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anyone has any idea......
is the last block launched?? how's the sales? |
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Feb 5 2013, 10:15 PM
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QUOTE(deviate @ Feb 4 2013, 09:16 PM) hi guys, would like to know which contractor was the culprit of Atmosfera's bad workmanship.. atmosfere use in-house bangla workers...and with all the bad feedbacks so far, I hope a better contractor will be awarded for Verde's construction.. |
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Feb 9 2013, 11:22 AM
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last block of verde launching 24 feb 2013........get ready with your cheque books....hehehe
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Feb 19 2013, 04:51 PM
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any idea what is the sale rate?
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Feb 20 2013, 12:08 AM
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This Sunday. Wondering will it be like market. >.<
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Feb 21 2013, 04:41 PM
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good luck http://www.thesundaily.my/news/617175
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Feb 21 2013, 07:07 PM
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QUOTE(Walaoeh! @ Feb 5 2013, 10:15 PM) atmosfere use in-house bangla workers... Go ask your friends who have access to Atmosfera private FB page now!Water is leaking from the car park wall and some other floor! KNS! |
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Feb 21 2013, 09:55 PM
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QUOTE(cockee @ Feb 21 2013, 07:07 PM) Go ask your friends who have access to Atmosfera private FB page now! Here we go again hahahahahahaa Water is leaking from the car park wall and some other floor! KNS! |
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Feb 22 2013, 02:52 AM
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QUOTE(cockee @ Feb 21 2013, 07:07 PM) Go ask your friends who have access to Atmosfera private FB page now! I thought the developer had fixed it after the residents protest heavily and involved politicians last year.Water is leaking from the car park wall and some other floor! KNS! Is this the latest case / issue again? |
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Feb 22 2013, 11:15 AM
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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Feb 22 2013, 02:52 AM) I thought the developer had fixed it after the residents protest heavily and involved politicians last year. Yup.. water leaking is the latest issue in their FB page.Is this the latest case / issue again? Last time the hoo-haa is on general poor workmanship, broken elevators and poor design. Attached thumbnail(s) 
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Feb 23 2013, 04:49 PM
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QUOTE(cockee @ Feb 22 2013, 11:15 AM) Yup.. water leaking is the latest issue in their FB page. Holy crap!!! How r they gonna defend this mess?!! Verde buyers pls note!!Last time the hoo-haa is on general poor workmanship, broken elevators and poor design. |
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Feb 23 2013, 05:46 PM
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Out of all the projects discussed on LYN, seems like atmosfera has one of the highest n repeat complain on quality issues
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Feb 23 2013, 07:13 PM
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QUOTE(CMW123 @ Feb 23 2013, 05:46 PM) Out of all the projects discussed on LYN, seems like atmosfera has one of the highest n repeat complain on quality issues Haha. I got to agree with u. |
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Feb 23 2013, 11:20 PM
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QUOTE(CMW123 @ Feb 23 2013, 05:46 PM) Out of all the projects discussed on LYN, seems like atmosfera has one of the highest n repeat complain on quality issues Wait till Verde's completion. |
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Feb 25 2013, 09:36 AM
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any one got any updates on the latest block launch ?
Sold like hot cakes like other blocks?? |
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Feb 25 2013, 12:23 PM
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Heard that the actual ceiling height to be delivered will not be like the one seen at showroom, will be lower. Anyone check on this?
Has the main-con being appointed? Heard that because of the low selling price at RM550 and the margin available, developer is finding it hard to get the contractor...not sure how true?? |
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Feb 25 2013, 03:12 PM
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yes the SA mentioned upfront that the ceiling height will be lower than the showhouse......at least they are coming clean on this instead of suprising the owners when they get their keys.......
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Feb 26 2013, 09:46 AM
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QUOTE(CMW123 @ Feb 25 2013, 12:23 PM) Heard that the actual ceiling height to be delivered will not be like the one seen at showroom, will be lower. Anyone check on this? unable to get contractors? wahliao! i wonder which contractor is doing the job now wor. compromised?Has the main-con being appointed? Heard that because of the low selling price at RM550 and the margin available, developer is finding it hard to get the contractor...not sure how true?? |
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Feb 27 2013, 12:01 AM
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QUOTE(dinox @ Feb 25 2013, 03:12 PM) yes the SA mentioned upfront that the ceiling height will be lower than the showhouse......at least they are coming clean on this instead of suprising the owners when they get their keys....... Did they mentioned how big is the gap of ceiling btw showroom and actual unit upon VP?I think my fren dunno about this as his SA told him, everything follow / as per show unit. |
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Mar 2 2013, 11:54 AM
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got sms.....even last block is 75% sold......not bad......i think the sales fgure is better than ara green
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Mar 2 2013, 01:18 PM
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QUOTE(MoneyTree88 @ Feb 26 2013, 09:46 AM) unable to get contractors? wahliao! i wonder which contractor is doing the job now wor. compromised? ya, they still cant get any external contractors for the job... might end up using atmosphere's contractor...  |
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Mar 4 2013, 12:25 PM
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Using atmosphere's contractor........haven't they learn their lesson...hope villamas will do the right thing for the sake of their company's reputation
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Mar 4 2013, 06:17 PM
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QUOTE(Walaoeh! @ Mar 2 2013, 01:18 PM) ya, they still cant get any external contractors for the job... might end up using atmosphere's contractor... gosh... |
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Mar 4 2013, 07:31 PM
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QUOTE(cockee @ Feb 21 2013, 07:07 PM) Go ask your friends who have access to Atmosfera private FB page now! As i predicted... Never ending story by Villamas... Water is leaking from the car park wall and some other floor! KNS! |
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Mar 4 2013, 10:07 PM
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Just my personal 2 cents...I just do not understand why human do not go and find out the truth about whatever issue discussed but keep exaggerating what may not be true or otherwise, let's fingers crossed!
If a person unsure about something, action should come 1st and to find out the fact. Not just simply put up things that they ownself do not even sure about. Certainly as a purchaser of Verde, I really hope that Villamas can improve and do a better job from time to time. I really hope that my investment is worthy. The sales is not bad and I am sure all who bought Verde had done enough survey about the developer's delivery record. I had called up the developer today and ask them about the main contractor. They replied that only piling contractor is appointed. So, let us have the benefit of doubt here until the main contractor is awarded the job. We should think and act maturely rather than following suit those 'maybe yes maybe no' mindset. Just my 2 cents... no offend |
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Mar 5 2013, 09:43 AM
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if a person is unsure of something, DONT BUY.
and, what?? until now not appointed a main contractor??? good luck to u. This post has been edited by MoneyTree88: Mar 5 2013, 09:44 AM |
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Mar 5 2013, 10:52 AM
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QUOTE(CMW123 @ Feb 25 2013, 12:23 PM) Heard that the actual ceiling height to be delivered will not be like the one seen at showroom, will be lower. Anyone check on this? Looks like the 2 things that were heard on 25 Feb all were subsequently confirmed. Just wish to share the information for interested LYN forumner only lah...after all that is the objective of this forum...Has the main-con being appointed? Heard that because of the low selling price at RM550 and the margin available, developer is finding it hard to get the contractor...not sure how true?? No offence to anyone but if this information help anyone to make a better decision then perhaps then it's good loh... |
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Apr 14 2013, 12:14 AM
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Apr 17 2013, 01:03 AM
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Apr 17 2013, 04:29 PM
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QUOTE(pjkl @ Apr 17 2013, 01:03 AM) Hi, potential buyer want to buy Verde ? errr.... no tq!Am V club member could share the "buyer get buyer" referer fees. Thanks. |
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Apr 17 2013, 04:47 PM
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Apr 18 2013, 06:53 PM
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Anyway, I think they finally put a date on the s&p. work probably start soon. Can see them clearing the land
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Apr 18 2013, 07:27 PM
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Apr 19 2013, 10:57 AM
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hopefully u'd say the same about ur unit(s) upon vp. goooood luck
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Apr 22 2013, 01:22 PM
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Apr 22 2013, 02:31 PM
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QUOTE(pjkl @ Apr 22 2013, 01:22 PM) Hi, in case anyone want and interested to buy this project. Can introduce to share the bgb fee. How much is the fee? Thanks. |
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Apr 22 2013, 03:35 PM
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May 21 2013, 10:07 PM
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May 23 2013, 11:20 AM
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May 23 2013, 12:58 PM
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QUOTE(pjkl @ May 21 2013, 10:07 PM) > Location: http://goo.gl/maps/DtjjR name of condo?> 1455sf Block A. Swimming pool view unit. Best for own stay with family members. > 2 covered car parks. 3 +1 rooms, 2+1 bathrooms, big balcony with 2 angle view. > Full facilities: - Swimming pool - Wading pool - Gymnasium - Futsal court - Basketball court - Squash court - Badminton court - Playground - Meditation garden - Reflexology garden - Sauna room - Jacuzzi > Low density New condo (unoccupied) only 2 blocks - good for ID / renovation taste. Move in immediately as compare to new launch which is higher price per sq ft and need to wait 3 years, need to bear interest during construction. > Situated at high hill in Puchong, very windy. > No need to install water heater. Equipped with mixer in rain shower, chrome basin tap covered with table top, long bath in master toilet. Instant water heater in guest toilet. > Good location, near IOI Mall, all banks, food stalls (less than 5 minutes drive). > Maintenance Fee + Sinking Fund are RM0.20 psf. > Bank valuation able to reach subject to borrower's or purchaser's profile or documents. > Only serious (OWN) buyers and investors. > Price: RM550,000.00 negotiable ( RM378 psf ). PM me if you interested and want to view the unit (only serious buyer). |
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May 23 2013, 01:43 PM
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villamas again?
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May 23 2013, 05:13 PM
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May 23 2013, 05:29 PM
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QUOTE(pjkl @ May 23 2013, 05:13 PM) Yes, but the unit is very nice. No worry. good luck!RM378psf for freehold, 2 car parks, very good layout (layout is important for design, renovation and put your things). Mixer in master room and heater in guest room. Price nego. |
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May 23 2013, 05:44 PM
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May 24 2013, 10:24 PM
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QUOTE(pjkl @ May 23 2013, 05:44 PM) Thanks. hope u r aware of developer's repo is not exactly good.now house expensive.... for new project. |
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May 24 2013, 11:34 PM
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May 25 2013, 11:36 AM
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I will personally not touch Villamas project as I have been to their atmosfera project in Puchong. They have classified atmosfera as a high end project but judging from the problems they faced, plus what I saw there...I will stay quite far away.
Things that I saw when I was there several months back:- 1) Area was still messy even after VP, still looks like construction site 2) No protection whatsoever on their lifts for renovation contractor 3) Floor areas were still full of cement stains, no evidence of any final cleaning before handing over VP 4) Finishes on the unit the agent showed me (sub sale offer) was quite bad. The defect list was about a few pages long and the whole unit had stickers every corner, indicating a defect 5) Cracked walls, very poor finishes on door frames, window frames (luxury condo but low cost windows and doors used) I went to see atmosfera because I was interested at their new launch next door (Zefer Hills)but upon looking at atmosfera...I have decided not to touch Villasmas projects until they have proven themselves again. |
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May 25 2013, 08:44 PM
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May 26 2013, 06:39 PM
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QUOTE(mtee7 @ May 25 2013, 11:36 AM) I will personally not touch Villamas project as I have been to their atmosfera project in Puchong. They have classified atmosfera as a high end project but judging from the problems they faced, plus what I saw there...I will stay quite far away. we r all quite aware of their repo.Things that I saw when I was there several months back:- 1) Area was still messy even after VP, still looks like construction site 2) No protection whatsoever on their lifts for renovation contractor 3) Floor areas were still full of cement stains, no evidence of any final cleaning before handing over VP 4) Finishes on the unit the agent showed me (sub sale offer) was quite bad. The defect list was about a few pages long and the whole unit had stickers every corner, indicating a defect 5) Cracked walls, very poor finishes on door frames, window frames (luxury condo but low cost windows and doors used) I went to see atmosfera because I was interested at their new launch next door (Zefer Hills)but upon looking at atmosfera...I have decided not to touch Villasmas projects until they have proven themselves again. verde buyers, good luck. |
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May 26 2013, 06:45 PM
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might come handy to the buyers when time comes https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/385900
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May 27 2013, 12:30 PM
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QUOTE(pjkl @ May 25 2013, 08:44 PM) Good.... thanks for your comment. 1) I did not view all 400 units (I'm not there to do QC checks for them, just wanted to know the general feel of this developer before I purchase). In fact, I viewed 4 different units that the agent had and yes, all 4 units had equally bad finishes. I can't conclude for the whole project but I can say the 4 units I are full of defects.Not all units are bad.. Do you see the all 400+ plus units ? Not say all units are good, there are some units a lot of defects but there are better. Have units are better and not much defects.. There is no perfect house..... there is always some defects as long as developer will rectify the defects. That is very responsible developer. A good house always come with a price...... 2) No perfect house/home; I agree. But Villamas is so short of delivering a proper development made me stay away from them. I mentioned about cement stains all over the floor areas...FYI, these stains were at the common areas, lift lobbies and walkway towards the units. 3) As a buyer, of course I do not expect the property to be 100% perfect. But if I can pick wisely, I wouldn't pick a unit with loads of defects (those that I witness were minor but what about those with major leaking issues?)They may fix it (they should) but imagine the inconvenience caused if it was a major defect. Give you another example: Suppose you are looking for a car and you know for a fact that brand X is prone to major and minor defects but they give you 10 years warranty...would u classify them as a good car maker? IMO, fix the root problem and dun have to worry so much about defects. I am a victim to such developers before and I am therefore very careful when I make a purchase. Past references and experiences matters a lot to me. P/S: I have a unit bought from another so called "reputable" developer and I've had to hack my entire toilet as the pipes are leaking, external wall also leaking, and many other defects which the developer didn't really fix. |
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Jun 13 2013, 10:26 PM
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A bit off topic but.. has anyone stayed / had bad experience with one of Villamas' project: Villa Park? Got offer 954sq ft for 360k.. If the developer really did a bad job with this one as well then I won't even consider it...
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Jun 24 2013, 02:51 PM
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QUOTE(pjkl @ May 24 2013, 11:34 PM) Thanks for your reminder. Agree... Reputation good, launch price also very very good.Just share : There is always a room for improvement. Good reputation come with a price. If can afford, just buy SimeDarby, I&P, etc... Looking for decent size, decent location, expect decent finishing lor.. |
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Jun 25 2013, 04:13 PM
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u must not expect so much when u pay less?
seriously? at the end of it u pay even more!. pay for tis fixing pay for tht redoing etc etc... i dont enjoy these headaches and stress for substandard projects. |
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Jun 25 2013, 05:30 PM
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Citibank is panel financier for this project
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Jul 27 2013, 03:24 PM
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QUOTE(airline @ Jun 25 2013, 05:30 PM) Citibank is panel financier for this project wat does dat mean? good/bad? anything to do w developer's repo. |
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Sep 23 2013, 10:36 PM
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External contractor
Encorp bags RM180.8m deal Posted on 26 August 2013 - 10:34pm Last updated on 26 August 2013 - 11:17pm sunbiz@thesundaily.com PETALING JAYA (Aug 26, 2013): Encorp Bhd has bagged a RM180.8 million contract from Lembah Penchala Sdn Bhd to build four blocks of 13-storey service apartments comprising 409 units, car parks and amenities in Petaling, Selangor. Encorp, via its indirect subsidiary, Encorp Construct Sdn Bhd, today received a letter of acceptance from Lembah Penchala for the purpose. Work on the project will commence on Oct 1, 2013, with delivery set 22 months down the road on July 31, 2015. "The award of the main contract is expected to contribute positively to the earnings and net assets of Encorp Group for the financial years ending Dec 31, 2014 and 2015," it said in a filing with Bursa Malaysia today. |
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Oct 16 2013, 12:30 PM
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Yay!
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Nov 8 2013, 12:31 AM
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any idea how much per sq ft now?? PM me the details as well...TQ
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Nov 8 2013, 07:25 PM
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Still have units available?
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Nov 12 2013, 11:37 PM
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Verde? All sold out... Not sure if big units available or not... Abt 4 months back SA said got 2 units left. Now... I dunno
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Nov 23 2013, 11:31 AM
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Verde's facade. Taken from Vlife magazine.
 Foundation works already finished. Site actually looks pretty good! Thank God!!!! Pics from encorp website.   But that facade gonna look really tame beside aragreens. lol This post has been edited by polkiuj: Nov 23 2013, 11:39 AM Attached thumbnail(s) 
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Nov 23 2013, 12:51 PM
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When is expected vp date for Verde?
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Nov 23 2013, 01:33 PM
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QUOTE(CMW123 @ Nov 23 2013, 01:51 PM) When is expected vp date for Verde? Looking at the progress, i would say by 1st quarter of 2016 |
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Nov 23 2013, 01:35 PM
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I would say this project was been priced at a reasonable price as all units are been priced at RM650 and below psf. If you compare it with the surrounding developments currently, this is the lowest.
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Nov 23 2013, 01:36 PM
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QUOTE(ted_tan18 @ Nov 13 2013, 12:37 AM) Verde? All sold out... Not sure if big units available or not... Abt 4 months back SA said got 2 units left. Now... I dunno 100% sold bro... bumped into the sa who served me back then and he said it's 100% sold. |
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Nov 24 2013, 12:16 AM
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More digging reveals this.
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Nov 24 2013, 01:16 AM
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QUOTE(polkiuj @ Nov 24 2013, 01:16 AM) More digging reveals this. When was this been revealed? Lol |
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Nov 24 2013, 02:15 AM
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QUOTE(yltoh @ Nov 23 2013, 01:33 PM) Looking at the progress, i would say by 1st quarter of 2016 Encrop suppose to complete construction by July 2015, according to press release. 22months construction period. Hopefully they able to keep to the timeline... |
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Nov 24 2013, 10:16 AM
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I found it from govt website lol
idaman2.kpkt.gov.my:8888/idv5/98_eHome/carianPemaju.cfm QUOTE(yltoh @ Nov 24 2013, 01:16 AM) When was this been revealed? Lol |
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Nov 24 2013, 10:59 AM
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Asing could be singaporean, indonesian etc n not necessary ang mo But if u visit presto at citta mall, can see few ang mo families shopping so presumed they stay in ara damansara This post has been edited by CMW123: Nov 24 2013, 11:00 AM |
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Nov 24 2013, 01:02 PM
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QUOTE(polkiuj @ Nov 24 2013, 11:16 AM) I found it from govt website lol thanks for sharing buddy. But i just dont know why everything has to be break down according to race..idaman2.kpkt.gov.my:8888/idv5/98_eHome/carianPemaju.cfm |
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Nov 24 2013, 01:05 PM
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QUOTE(661188 @ Nov 24 2013, 03:19 AM) ara any angmo Expat? Dont think there's much angmo there as there are not too many mnc's over there. Just Eurocpoter..... hmm what else??.. |
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Nov 24 2013, 09:43 PM
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That one really got to ask our government o... I didn't mean this to be racist, just an interesting observation. I'm generally not racist. I believe it's the person itself and not a race that is the problem..
If anyone is offended by my post please let me know and I'll take it down.. Sorry.. QUOTE(yltoh @ Nov 24 2013, 01:02 PM) thanks for sharing buddy. But i just dont know why everything has to be break down according to race.. |
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Nov 25 2013, 09:43 AM
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QUOTE(polkiuj @ Nov 24 2013, 10:43 PM) That one really got to ask our government o... I didn't mean this to be racist, just an interesting observation. I'm generally not racist. I believe it's the person itself and not a race that is the problem.. Hey buddy, no worries, i don't mean that. It's just that i personally think this is the way our Gov works.. everything must be break down into race.If anyone is offended by my post please let me know and I'll take it down.. Sorry.. I'm sorry if my reply to u was kinda misleading. I'm not pointing at you buddy, No worries. This post has been edited by yltoh: Mar 31 2015, 10:29 AM |
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Nov 25 2013, 05:56 PM
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Yea I think it's disgusting as well. So much for 1Malaysia -.-
Bro u buy a unit in Verde? Which and $$? Own stay or invest? This post has been edited by polkiuj: Nov 25 2013, 05:57 PM |
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Nov 25 2013, 08:32 PM
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QUOTE(polkiuj @ Nov 25 2013, 06:56 PM) Yea I think it's disgusting as well. So much for 1Malaysia -.- Yes, i have one. Most likely for own stay. Mine is 1500sf spa price is about RM970k. 8th floor.Bro u buy a unit in Verde? Which and $$? Own stay or invest? I bought it late that is why I'm paying more. Made a mistake. Was hesitating for some time. What about u bro? By the way the ppsf after rebate is below RM600psf. Do you think it is one of the cheapest in that vicinity for the time being? |
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Nov 25 2013, 10:13 PM
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QUOTE(yltoh @ Nov 25 2013, 08:32 PM) Yes, i have one. Most likely for own stay. Mine is 1500sf spa price is about RM970k. 8th floor. Think below rm600 psqft is already a bargain... Given the sudden incremental fr Jan-Feb 2013 to today... Now it's like rm750psqft.I bought it late that is why I'm paying more. Made a mistake. Was hesitating for some time. What about u bro? By the way the ppsf after rebate is below RM600psf. Do you think it is one of the cheapest in that vicinity for the time being? |
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Nov 25 2013, 11:36 PM
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QUOTE(ted_tan18 @ Nov 25 2013, 11:13 PM) Think below rm600 psqft is already a bargain... Given the sudden incremental fr Jan-Feb 2013 to today... Now it's like rm750psqft. You're right. the average price for a unit with the size of 1000sf and above is about RM750psf for that area now. |
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Nov 26 2013, 07:57 AM
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You bought the last phase? Mine is 1422 sf @ 871k, 13th floor.
I made the decision in one day lol. Cos the next day price increase -.-". I still dunno if I can afford to stay here. lol!! It was a very emotional day. Haha. Right now it is the cheapest of all the new launches. Urbana, aragreens, H2O and SHC definitely over 750 psf now. I think verde buyers hit the gold pot cos it seems that previously Villamas had a bad rep for atmosfera Puchong. And it seems like they are doing all they can to ensure this one is built well. Or at least I hope so la. Haha. Cos I bought it QUOTE(yltoh @ Nov 25 2013, 08:32 PM) Yes, i have one. Most likely for own stay. Mine is 1500sf spa price is about RM970k. 8th floor. I bought it late that is why I'm paying more. Made a mistake. Was hesitating for some time. What about u bro? By the way the ppsf after rebate is below RM600psf. Do you think it is one of the cheapest in that vicinity for the time being? |
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Nov 26 2013, 06:12 PM
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QUOTE(polkiuj @ Nov 26 2013, 08:57 AM) You bought the last phase? Mine is 1422 sf @ 871k, 13th floor. I made the decision in one day lol. Cos the next day price increase -.-". I still dunno if I can afford to stay here. lol!! It was a very emotional day. Haha. Right now it is the cheapest of all the new launches. Urbana, aragreens, H2O and SHC definitely over 750 psf now. I think verde buyers hit the gold pot cos it seems that previously Villamas had a bad rep for atmosfera Puchong. And it seems like they are doing all they can to ensure this one is built well. Or at least I hope so la. Haha. Cos I bought it |
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Nov 26 2013, 06:17 PM
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QUOTE(yltoh @ Nov 26 2013, 07:12 PM) This post has been edited by yltoh: Mar 31 2015, 10:30 AM |
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Nov 26 2013, 10:29 PM
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I wish it was that easy bro. I got my mom to join loan with me to get the loan. But I will finance it myself. I still earn much less than needed to stay here lol.
I bought nov 2012 I think. Yes that is the price before discount. QUOTE(yltoh @ Nov 26 2013, 06:17 PM) Haiyo bro, of course u can afford. No problem. U can already afford to obtain the loan, plus 3 years down the road.. you should be doing even better by then. By the way, mine is tower b. I bought it in March. When you bought yours? And by the way, the the price u mentioned is the gross price? |
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Nov 26 2013, 11:44 PM
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QUOTE(polkiuj @ Nov 26 2013, 11:29 PM) I wish it was that easy bro. I got my mom to join loan with me to get the loan. But I will finance it myself. I still earn much less than needed to stay here lol. Haha.. Good luck to you by the way... the rest of the investors as wellI bought nov 2012 I think. Yes that is the price before discount. |
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Jan 31 2014, 01:02 PM
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Wow!! This is great!! my bro bought one too. 10th floor at RM899k. I bought bought concerto instead...
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Jan 31 2014, 03:30 PM
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QUOTE(matttzz @ Jan 31 2014, 02:02 PM) Wow!! This is great!! my bro bought one too. 10th floor at RM899k. I bought bought concerto instead... Concerto is impressive too. I find the price rather reasonable for that area. |
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Feb 1 2014, 08:01 AM
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Still got units?
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Feb 1 2014, 09:39 AM
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QUOTE(manapergi @ Feb 1 2014, 03:08 AM) Symphony Sime Darby group has quite a number of expats.... |
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Mar 4 2014, 12:13 AM
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How's the progress? I don't see any activities eh...
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Mar 12 2014, 07:01 PM
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QUOTE(matttzz @ Mar 4 2014, 12:13 AM) How's the progress? I don't see any activities eh... There is some progress at the site as i just went there last weekend.. |
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Mar 12 2014, 09:30 PM
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QUOTE(Yellow lemon @ Mar 12 2014, 07:01 PM) There is some progress at the site as i just went there last weekend.. What progress spefically? |
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Mar 13 2014, 05:03 PM
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QUOTE(CMW123 @ Mar 12 2014, 09:30 PM) What progress spefically? May be you should drop by the site and see by yourself.Dono how to explain in specific |
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Mar 13 2014, 05:05 PM
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by the way, any owner of block B Verde here?
just wonder you all already start serving the interest to bank and how is the rebate from Developer? Anyone? |
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Mar 13 2014, 06:44 PM
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QUOTE(Yellow lemon @ Mar 13 2014, 06:05 PM) by the way, any owner of block B Verde here? I am. But I have yet to start serving the bank interest.just wonder you all already start serving the interest to bank and how is the rebate from Developer? Anyone? |
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Mar 13 2014, 09:14 PM
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Me too... Block B. No notice of any draw down/ payment to be made to developer as yet.
I was at site maybe 3 weeks back, basically block b will be built the last.. Coz they need space to move in and out of the site and block b is sitting where all machinery are moving in/out. Even the basement on block b is still not completed.... My thoughts..... Not 100% sure. I know a friend who bought block a already receive letter for payment fr developer and bank already made 1st drawdown. |
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Mar 14 2014, 09:07 AM
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I realize the progress is moving sideway.
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Mar 14 2014, 09:40 AM
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When the S&P was signed at the first place?
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Mar 14 2014, 10:12 AM
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QUOTE(ted_tan18 @ Mar 13 2014, 09:14 PM) Me too... Block B. No notice of any draw down/ payment to be made to developer as yet. So only block A out of 3 blocks completed piling if first drawdown took place...that's almost 1.5 years after launch...consider quite slow... I was at site maybe 3 weeks back, basically block b will be built the last.. Coz they need space to move in and out of the site and block b is sitting where all machinery are moving in/out. Even the basement on block b is still not completed.... My thoughts..... Not 100% sure. I know a friend who bought block a already receive letter for payment fr developer and bank already made 1st drawdown. Next door Aragreens launch half a year earlier, 3 blocks already completed structure n last 3 blocks structure probably 40% - 60% completed |
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Mar 14 2014, 11:24 AM
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QUOTE(yltoh @ Mar 13 2014, 06:44 PM) I am. But I have yet to start serving the bank interest. My sis who bought Block A is start serving the interest and got the rebate.Another two or relatives of mine who bought Block B is start serving the bank interest too. I just wonder why some other Block B owner like you and me not yet. Anyway, Im asking villamas about this and waiting for their reply. |
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Mar 14 2014, 05:25 PM
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QUOTE(Yellow lemon @ Mar 14 2014, 12:24 PM) My sis who bought Block A is start serving the interest and got the rebate. I find it strange too. By the way, I think the progress is way too slow. In fact, I was kinda worried too.Another two or relatives of mine who bought Block B is start serving the bank interest too. I just wonder why some other Block B owner like you and me not yet. Anyway, Im asking villamas about this and waiting for their reply. |
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Mar 15 2014, 09:08 AM
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QUOTE(Yellow lemon @ Mar 14 2014, 11:24 AM) My sis who bought Block A is start serving the interest and got the rebate. Strange, completion of piling n it's billing applies to the whole blockAnother two or relatives of mine who bought Block B is start serving the bank interest too. I just wonder why some other Block B owner like you and me not yet. Anyway, Im asking villamas about this and waiting for their reply. Only next stage, completion of structure, billing applies only when that particular floor has been completed |
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Mar 15 2014, 10:33 AM
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QUOTE(yltoh @ Mar 14 2014, 05:25 PM) I find it strange too. By the way, I think the progress is way too slow. In fact, I was kinda worried too. You bought high floor? mine block b level 12.Not to worry on the progress, things will speed up once the underground works, ground floor and even level 1 is done. coz after that will be modular construction method on our units that is the same across each floor. Encrop is the main contractor, they should be fine... |
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Mar 15 2014, 04:09 PM
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QUOTE(ted_tan18 @ Mar 15 2014, 11:33 AM) You bought high floor? mine block b level 12. Thank you for enlightening me. Mine is level 8.Not to worry on the progress, things will speed up once the underground works, ground floor and even level 1 is done. coz after that will be modular construction method on our units that is the same across each floor. Encrop is the main contractor, they should be fine... Who knows one day we will be sitting down and having barbecue together. Cheers! |
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Mar 15 2014, 05:01 PM
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Wish Verde is one of the most successful new condo in the AD region.
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Mar 15 2014, 05:51 PM
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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Mar 15 2014, 06:01 PM) Wish Verde is one of the most successful new condo in the AD region. The price psf is the most reasonably priced project in AD in recent years. |
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Mar 15 2014, 05:56 PM
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QUOTE(yltoh @ Mar 15 2014, 05:51 PM) The price psf is the most reasonably priced project in AD in recent years. I very much agree with you. Villamas, at least, nvr take the market opportunity of last 2-3 hot years until now to price a lot higher for their projects. Hope this time around, their workamnship is good and outperform their previous projects. |
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Mar 15 2014, 11:16 PM
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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Mar 15 2014, 06:56 PM) I very much agree with you. That's cool bro. May the force be with us.Villamas, at least, nvr take the market opportunity of last 2-3 hot years until now to price a lot higher for their projects. Hope this time around, their workamnship is good and outperform their previous projects. |
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Mar 15 2014, 11:17 PM
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[quote=Chris Chew,Mar 15 2014, 06:56 PM]I very much agree with you.
Villamas, at least, nvr take the market opportunity of last 2-3 hot years until now to price a lot higher for their projects. Hope this time around, their workamnship is good and outperform their previous This post has been edited by yltoh: Mar 16 2014, 08:56 PM |
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Mar 16 2014, 06:46 PM
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Hi all owners of Verde, I've created a facebook group for us to share info and others pertaining to Verde. Group name is 'Verde Ara Damansara Owners'
https://www.facebook.com/groups/462894850503800/ |
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Mar 17 2014, 11:06 AM
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QUOTE(ted_tan18 @ Mar 16 2014, 06:46 PM) Hi all owners of Verde, I've created a facebook group for us to share info and others pertaining to Verde. Group name is 'Verde Ara Damansara Owners' This facebook will lead to many property agent to have your details??https://www.facebook.com/groups/462894850503800/ Then you will receive numerous call and sms from them.  |
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Mar 17 2014, 11:21 AM
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QUOTE(Yellow lemon @ Mar 17 2014, 11:06 AM) This facebook will lead to many property agent to have your details?? we will do a clean up once nearing completion. other condos are also using fb to communicate owners to owners.Then you will receive numerous call and sms from them. its something... that in the future when owners can disseminate info and share. |
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Mar 17 2014, 11:31 AM
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QUOTE(ted_tan18 @ Mar 17 2014, 11:21 AM) we will do a clean up once nearing completion. other condos are also using fb to communicate owners to owners. Sorry Ted, i think you are in property line too. (i just check out your FB) its something... that in the future when owners can disseminate info and share. Anyway, i don't find it safe to expose so much in the FB. FB connected to too many of our own privacy, not good to let people know where you stay too. Just my advise to owner don't simply share this info in FB. |
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Mar 18 2014, 12:35 AM
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QUOTE(Yellow lemon @ Mar 17 2014, 11:31 AM) Sorry Ted, i think you are in property line too. (i just check out your FB) hahahahahaha.... well... you right about not sharing too much info on FB. But you are absolutely wrong about me being in the property line... maybe you should not 'just check out FB', thats why there are privacy settings on FB.Anyway, i don't find it safe to expose so much in the FB. FB connected to too many of our own privacy, not good to let people know where you stay too. Just my advise to owner don't simply share this info in FB. |
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Mar 18 2014, 12:47 AM
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heard some interesting news about See Hoy Chan gonna launch their project at ARA already. RM800psf leasehold.
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Mar 18 2014, 10:08 AM
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QUOTE(ted_tan18 @ Mar 18 2014, 12:35 AM) hahahahahaha.... well... you right about not sharing too much info on FB. But you are absolutely wrong about me being in the property line... maybe you should not 'just check out FB', thats why there are privacy settings on FB. Nevermind Ted, try your luck.  If you are considerate enough, you should not encourage the FB page to expose where is your property or your home is. Just a cautious to all Verde Residence, be wise and careful on information sharing especially online. |
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Mar 18 2014, 11:18 AM
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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Mar 15 2014, 05:01 PM) Wish Verde is one of the most successful new condo in the AD region. I wish that too! Pray hard for that |
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Mar 18 2014, 11:59 PM
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Is this project 100% sold out?
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Mar 19 2014, 02:47 PM
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QUOTE(Wxxxxa @ Mar 18 2014, 11:59 PM) Is this project 100% sold out? Last I heard is left 2 unit (end of 2013), but now should be sold out. |
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Mar 19 2014, 03:57 PM
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QUOTE(Yellow lemon @ Mar 19 2014, 03:47 PM) Last I heard is left 2 unit (end of 2013), but now should be sold out. 100% sold out. Another project which was been priced reasonably is Urbana Residences. |
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Mar 19 2014, 04:53 PM
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QUOTE(yltoh @ Mar 19 2014, 03:57 PM) 100% sold out. Good news! I understand the last two unit have been quoted at very high price by Villamas.Another project which was been priced reasonably is Urbana Residences. like 650psft? |
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Mar 19 2014, 06:54 PM
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QUOTE(Yellow lemon @ Mar 19 2014, 05:53 PM) Good news! I understand the last two unit have been quoted at very high price by Villamas. According to one of the SA, it was sold at 650psflike 650psft? |
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Apr 7 2014, 03:06 PM
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I'm already serving interest since last year. Block D.
Their 1st payment you need to collect at the office in TTDI, subsequent payments will be direct debit. |
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Apr 13 2014, 09:31 PM
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Took some pictures at verde site today... Level 1-2 commencing... (Pics posted on Verde FB page)
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Apr 17 2014, 03:06 PM
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Just to share complaints from Serin Residency owners who just received their keys on lifts, water n electicity, pls don't whack me
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Apr 21 2014, 04:06 PM
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QUOTE(CMW123 @ Apr 17 2014, 03:06 PM) Just to share complaints from Serin Residency owners who just received their keys on lifts, water n electicity, pls don't whack me Understand the Serin project - main contractor is in house one by Villamas? https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2271542/+120 same case like their Atmosfera puchong. This post has been edited by Yellow lemon: Aug 18 2014, 03:32 PM |
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Jun 1 2014, 06:01 PM
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good luck !!!
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Oct 15 2014, 11:39 AM
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QUOTE(ted_tan18 @ Apr 13 2014, 09:31 PM) Took some pictures at verde site today... Level 1-2 commencing... (Pics posted on Verde FB page) Hi there.. what's the Facebook page link?Just wondering if anyone knows what stage is it at etc. Thanks! This post has been edited by PoisonIvy82: Oct 15 2014, 11:39 AM |
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Nov 6 2014, 10:42 AM
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no news from this developer? why still at level 2?
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Nov 7 2014, 06:37 PM
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QUOTE(matttzz @ Nov 6 2014, 10:42 AM) no news from this developer? why still at level 2? I pass by Verde every couple of days ...it looks like no work at all going on there ...almost abandoned? |
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Nov 7 2014, 07:20 PM
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wah..launch day their marketing really like pasar,now senyap already ?
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Nov 13 2014, 09:07 PM
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Developer terminated the main con, Encorp and Encorp now suing for wrongful termination of contract of RM68m
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Nov 13 2014, 09:09 PM
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Has construction work stopped at site?
This post has been edited by CMW123: Nov 13 2014, 09:10 PM |
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Nov 16 2014, 04:41 PM
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Nov 17 2014, 06:55 PM
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QUOTE(CMW123 @ Nov 16 2014, 04:41 PM) Anyone knows the reason of the termination? |
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