Hi, I am new in property investment and had been reading this thread for some times. And had been browsing the atmosfera advertisements in propwall and iProp. Seems like the workmanship not really as bad as mentioned. 

Been to setiawalk at Puchong also, noted that the 1500sf also asking for more than 800K and quality of work seems the same / not much different from atmosfera.

So, I was thinking at that kind of pricing compared to Verde, Ara Damansara is definitely a better location. And, off course  overall environment is much quieter and soothing for family living. With Tesco and the present medical center, upcoming project by See Hoy Chan near Citta Mall (citta mall owned by tycoon Lee Ka-Shing), can I said that Ara Damansara is a better bet compared to other? Sorry, I didnt mentioned abt Ara Green here because I cant afford it at that kind of steep pricing. 

Another finding that I found about Villamas is that they do not have abandoned projects. That is surely a safe bet, I guess.

Anyway, all above is only my personal opinion. Hope that all sifus here can give further advise. Thank you.

Took some pictures at verde site today... Level 1-2 commencing... (Pics posted on Verde FB page)