It's Villamas. VILLAMAS.
Talk to Atmosfera owners first to understand the quality of this developer.
Verde @ ara damansara, by Villamas Sdn Bhd
Verde @ ara damansara, by Villamas Sdn Bhd
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Oct 23 2012, 10:04 AM
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It's Villamas. VILLAMAS.
Talk to Atmosfera owners first to understand the quality of this developer. |
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Oct 23 2012, 10:11 AM
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I believe its the same villamas. at least, related companies. ROC won't allow different companies using similar name.
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Oct 23 2012, 01:11 PM
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again, becareful becos it s the same villamas that did atmosfera. confirmed on their website. I purchased atmosfera and it s a nightmare. 3 months after vp the most basic things like elevators still giving problems.
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Nov 1 2012, 07:45 PM
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at 400psf also I won't touch Villamas property. blaming the contractor is a sign of irresponsibility.
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Nov 6 2012, 06:05 PM
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Bro, my final warning.
This Verde is by Villamas. From personal experience, it's not worth the hassle. |
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Nov 16 2012, 01:32 PM
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QUOTE(abgkik @ Nov 16 2012, 12:48 PM) Bro... After 18 months of warranty period, do you think developer bother to entertain u? my cost of repair is after warranty period, as developer unable to solve it.. I hv made profit? I purchased for my own use and my selling price is only par with my cost.. I move out because no more privacy within the area... Abangkik, I agree with you.Facts? Not to stop buyer to gamble.. But beware... I dont know the extend of BrandanHo's experience with Villamas, or how vested he is, but from my personal experience, this developer's commitment and responsibility towards their property buyers has a lot of room for improvement. Not only that, the quality of the finished product also leaves a lot of bitter taste in mouth. I know for a fact that some buyers of their properties launches various complaints but was not resolved. It reached a stage when the residents had to file complaints to local authorithies. As for his point abt people not highlighting the good things Villamas did, well let me ask this; would anyone want to spoil the reputation of the properties they are vested in if they have a choice? Would people want the public to know their property is full of problems, thus lower its market value? Of course not! But people do that when they are pushed into a corner, and can't take it anymore. Yes, it's that bad. Yes, there are repeated buyers of villamas properties. That's because they made money. Why not? In the past two, three years, any props, regardless of location and quality, would make money. Many of these speculators hardly give a damn about the property and its liveability. But if the market slows down, then buyers will be more choosy, and that's when quality will make and break the deal. And why those who made money off Villamas do not have right to complain? Their gain is from the risks they took, and from the bullish market atmosphere. in fact, Villamas's could have reduced their profits due to their quality issues. The credibility is only lost when you compromise your opinions due to money. Good luck to those who want to take a gamble. This post has been edited by cockee: Nov 16 2012, 01:33 PM |
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Nov 16 2012, 03:33 PM
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QUOTE(brandonho @ Nov 16 2012, 03:03 PM) Well, I Appreciate all the personal opinions about Villamas thus far. And as the saying goes, what doesn't kill you, makes u stronger. And being among the few out of the thousands who were part of Villamas projects, your opinions are equally treated with utmost importance. Bla bla bla... This is exactly the same rhetoric I received when talking to real Villamas respresentative on the issues affecting my Villamas condo. Now I am more than convinced you are somehow vested in Villamas or this project.What? You think you are a Jedi Master giving us advise ah? We don't need Villamas to 'try to kill us to make us stronger'. We just need them to be more responsive, take comprehensive actions and solve those bloody problems. We as buyers are paying your salary or profit, so we just expect you to do your job well, and not to tell us what to think or learn when you guys don't do your jobs. Yeah, the fact is I am only one of the few hundreds dissatisfied purchasers. But I can assure you that there more than a huge group of us who share the same feeling. Hell, if you do a checking with Ministry of Housing or MPSJ you will the number of formal complaints lodged against them! The Ministry's officers even came to the condo to conduct a briefing on the procedures, and then receive complaints. This is not hearsay, nor rumours. And the listing of complaints and defects can run to a few pages of A4 papers. That's on the common area alone! And by saying that I am 'the few out of the thousands', you are doing exactly the opposite of 'treating with utmost importance'. You are trying to minisculate my opinion, and dismissive about it. Your hidden message is 'you are just a small fry, so your opinion is neglible'. Again, this is the same attitude that made me so fed up with this developer. My advise to Villamas is to do their job properly, fixed those faulty lifts (not even half a year handover already spoiled) and stop giving excuses (for example, lift spare parts out of stock!). |
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Nov 16 2012, 04:24 PM
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QUOTE(brandonho @ Nov 16 2012, 10:55 AM) ...people get emotionally attached to comments that is conveyed out of frustration. And with just merely a fixable issue, things can be blown out of proportion. Question is, does anyone have any idea how efficient has Villamas been, when it comes to rectifying defects and addressing resident's concerns? Even if there is, no one really announce it on forums, hence, only the bad stuff lingers around here. nevertheless, This has been of great help to Villamas, as they continue to better themselves and channels these feedbacks to something of greater use... Yeah, people got frustrated. Why? Because some developer repeatedly fails to rectify the issues faced by the purchasers. ..Lets not over generalize. For those who placed their bet on Villamas, the risk are much lower now, becos once bitten, twice shy, it only makes so much more sense for them to make it right for Verde... Question is, does anyone have any idea how efficient has Villamas been? Yeah, I know because I experienced it. The answer is NOT VERY EFFICIENT at all. If they are so efficient, please ask them, as on late Oct, why there is no confirmed date to fix Atmosfera's elevators yet? Please why only few months after handovers already got flooding problem in basement carpark and common corridor when it rains heavily? Why even the barbeque pit got issue? I am not over generalizing. I speak with specifics. And why I dare to say all this without fearing libel lawsuit from Villamas? Because it is all true. Actually i read about Villamas's shoddy workmanship before I purchased Atmosfera. I thought, this condo is their first venture into the higher-end market, so they will put in 110% to make sure this project is a success. Then they will have a good example to showcase when they market Serin, Zefer and Verde. Well, I don't know how many % they put in in reality, but I know it is definitely NOT GOOD enough! So what make anyone think they have learned their lesson? |
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Dec 2 2012, 11:11 AM
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so Amint kor, do u now agree prop price is unsustainable?
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Dec 5 2012, 12:43 PM
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I foresee a lot of cursing and tears few years down the road. have u heard of design so bad that penthouse's balcony has no roof? take a look at Atmosfera. now the owner is stuck. condo mgmt don't allow add on, even at own costs. no roof also damn problematic.
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Dec 16 2012, 07:30 PM
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Err.. excuse me. Are we comparing Villamas' workmanship vs SHC's?
Yea, both haven't completed so the best way is to look at past record. In that case, then it's like comparing heaven to hell. Villamas is bad beyond belief.. |
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Feb 21 2013, 07:07 PM
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Feb 22 2013, 11:15 AM
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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Feb 22 2013, 02:52 AM) I thought the developer had fixed it after the residents protest heavily and involved politicians last year. Yup.. water leaking is the latest issue in their FB page.Is this the latest case / issue again? Last time the hoo-haa is on general poor workmanship, broken elevators and poor design. Attached thumbnail(s) |
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