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Seasick85
post Nov 2 2012, 07:29 PM

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QUOTE(darklight79 @ Oct 31 2012, 11:23 PM)
I just lift.
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Managed to pull off today's evening.. 135kg deadlift one rep max dead from ground, dalam keadaan mengantuk coz jus woke up during that time..not so much different from the rack which is 140kg.. smile.gif
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QUOTE(Seasick85 @ Nov 2 2012, 05:29 AM)
Managed to pull off today's evening.. 135kg deadlift one rep max dead from ground, dalam keadaan mengantuk coz jus woke up during that time..not so much different from the rack which is 140kg.. smile.gif
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in my head, it's as if you just got out of bed, saw the bar on the floor and decided to go for a 1RM laugh.gif . no warm up sets even?!
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post Nov 3 2012, 06:28 AM

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QUOTE(whatdamn @ Nov 3 2012, 04:32 AM)
in my head, it's as if you just got out of bed, saw the bar on the floor and decided to go for a 1RM  laugh.gif . no warm up sets even?!
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Yeah, how do you know? lol..actually the time gap from me woke up and lift it from the floor is around 1 hour..but still sleepy..warms up with bar, 60kg, 80kg, and 1 rep of 112.5kg..
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QUOTE(Seasick85 @ Nov 2 2012, 04:28 PM)
Yeah, how do you know? lol..actually the time gap from me woke up and lift it from the floor is around 1 hour..but still sleepy..warms up with bar, 60kg, 80kg, and 1 rep of 112.5kg..
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Jokes aside, no stretching? If you plan to be in the game for the long run, I'd strongly recommend it before doing any work though.
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post Nov 3 2012, 10:48 AM

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QUOTE(whatdamn @ Nov 3 2012, 11:46 AM)
Jokes aside, no stretching? If you plan to be in the game for the long run, I'd strongly recommend it before doing any work though.
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Some 5 min stretches man.. forgot to mentioned that..sorry.. smile.gif
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post Nov 4 2012, 09:06 PM

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Would like to ask that, for beginner, I should avoid mixed grip right.
As read from stronglift guide, beginner should stick to overhand grip.

Anyone facing traps imbalance problem due to deadlift.
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QUOTE(sickboy @ Nov 4 2012, 07:06 AM)
Would like to ask that, for beginner, I should avoid mixed grip right.
As read from stronglift guide, beginner should stick to overhand grip.

Anyone facing traps imbalance problem due to deadlift.
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don't over think the grip you use. if you're worried about any imbalances from using a mixed grip, you can always switch the way you grip with the mixed grip.
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post Dec 24 2012, 03:22 PM

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do it heavy, until ur veins come out, eyes buck out, seeing stars...
i suggest you progressively add weight until u can do at the very minimum 3xbw.
best movement ever after squat.
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post Dec 24 2012, 08:07 PM

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i deadlift 55kg lol flex.gif

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post Dec 24 2012, 08:08 PM

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QUOTE(myvi5949 @ Dec 24 2012, 08:07 PM)
stretching before exercise can cause injury.. only do warm up first. start with llighter weight to warm up then go with workset weight.
stretching is for increasing flexibility..do it only AFTER a workout/run when your muscle is already hot.
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Starting with lighter weight of the same exercises ie ligher weight for deadlift before hitting workout weight is called stretching albeit it is call dynamic stretching.
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oh just ignore my trolling tongue.gif
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post Dec 24 2012, 10:57 PM

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QUOTE(alien9 @ Dec 24 2012, 08:08 PM)
Starting with lighter weight of the same exercises ie ligher weight for deadlift before hitting workout weight is called stretching albeit it is call dynamic stretching.
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both of you are correct as well. smile.gif

The correct physical exercise term is dynamic stretching (against static stretching which should be at the end of exercise). DS is also called warm-up. stretching alone is not a good warmup.

My warmup routine itself would take about 30min! I dont mean to say everyone need to follow that, but its just for my body to get going and reduce old injuries.
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QUOTE(VeeJay @ Dec 24 2012, 10:57 PM)
both of you are correct as well.  smile.gif

The correct physical exercise term is dynamic stretching (against static stretching which should be at the end of exercise). DS is also called warm-up. stretching alone is not a good warmup.

My warmup routine itself would take about 30min! I dont mean to say everyone need to follow that, but its just for my body to get going and reduce old injuries.
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Do you include foam rolling in your warm up? Love to try it sometimes
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post Dec 24 2012, 11:10 PM

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QUOTE(alien9 @ Dec 24 2012, 11:01 PM)
Do you include foam rolling in your warm up? Love to try it sometimes
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I use ab roller, but its not warmup, but instead my main exercise. My abs are all beaten up for ages, hence i still yet to find any motivating abs exercise. situp and crunch are norm to me, which I could go to 100 reps in a go. My personal best is 60 situp in 60 secs. That doesnt mean I have six packs! LOL But pretty solid core, if you were to punch me tongue.gif

I think we are digression from main topic. Merry Christmas, and you are welcome to join my party with glenfiddich and Black Label now...hic hic. biggrin.gif

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post Dec 24 2012, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(VeeJay @ Dec 24 2012, 11:10 PM)
I use ab roller, but its not warmup, but instead my main exercise. My abs are all beaten up for ages, hence i still yet to find any motivating abs exercise. situp and crunch are norm to me, which I could go to 100 reps in a go. My personal best is 60 situp in 60 secs. That doesnt mean I have six packs! LOL But pretty solid core, if you were to punch me  tongue.gif

I think we are digression from main topic. Merry Christmas, and you are welcome to join my party with glenfiddich and Black Label now...hic hic.  biggrin.gif
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post Dec 27 2012, 09:52 AM

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QUOTE(pleowcw @ Dec 24 2012, 03:22 PM)
do it heavy, until ur veins come out, eyes buck out, seeing stars...
i suggest you progressively add weight until u can do at the very minimum 3xbw.
best movement ever after squat.
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How much do you lift?

You make it sound as though 3x bw is super easy
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post Dec 27 2012, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(mikehuan @ Dec 27 2012, 09:52 AM)
How much do you lift?

You make it sound as though 3x bw is super easy
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no, not super easy. but achievable for most of us, and fun as hell.

i just start going back to gym on dec 5. yesterday was my 10th session & i did 130kgx2x5. currently a bit out of shape @ 80kg, adding up weight progressively. up 5kg 3 times a week.
my old record back in 09 was 190kgx3x5 @ 70kg. just when i was about to hit 3x, alas, real life kacau and i got posted oversea and stop lifting weight. vmad.gif (70kg is my lean weight with around 14% bf, i am short at 5"6')
remembering back those days in 09 was fun. i have a gym buddy who was like 6"2' or something like that, >100kg, who easily out-deadlifted me 50kg or more, always taunting me, calling me *****, making me furious as hell. but fostering up the competitive spirit.

i deadlift raw, no strap, only mix-grip or belt when i feel weak, regular stance. i do have a pair of sturdy weightlifting shoes though, not those regular nike, that helps.

deadlift is the most neglected exercise in commercial gym today, i guess the owners just don't want us to bang weight on the floor, f*** them, or change gym. deadlift is so good that it trains every single muscle group all at once proportionally, everything from neck down, so that we will not end up with big arm + chopstick leg, or big chest/weak back. it also give you the mental power not to be afraid of heavy tonnage.

seeing chicks do heavy tonnage is always fun, and i guess, malu a lot of others who just f*** around in the gym with sissy weight.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbWTv5U9PuU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RB-eGVKhoW0
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post Dec 27 2012, 02:46 PM

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Good stuff. Your poundage by far surpasses most of us btw. And by doing it strapless and no belt makes it even better.

Dont suppose yu got any vIDs?
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post Dec 27 2012, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(mikehuan @ Dec 27 2012, 02:46 PM)
Good stuff. Your poundage by far surpasses most of us btw. And by doing it strapless and no belt makes it even better.

Dont suppose yu got any vIDs?
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no at the moment, i will try to video it next monday @ 305 lbs hopefully.
i don't wanna video tape tomorrow because i did 285 lbs yesterday and my lower back was starting to feel it.
so tomorrow's work-out @ 295 lbs, i suspect will be quite bad in term of form.
give me the weekend to carb load and recover my upper body first. icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Dec 27 2012, 05:44 PM

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For those doing above 100kg deadlifts, how's your grip?

raw+overhand?
raw+mixed?
gloves+overhand?
gloves+mixed?

my current sticking point is the grip. fingers are literally getting ripped off my hands.

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