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pleowcw
post Dec 24 2012, 03:22 PM

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do it heavy, until ur veins come out, eyes buck out, seeing stars...
i suggest you progressively add weight until u can do at the very minimum 3xbw.
best movement ever after squat.
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post Dec 27 2012, 11:16 AM

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QUOTE(mikehuan @ Dec 27 2012, 09:52 AM)
How much do you lift?

You make it sound as though 3x bw is super easy
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no, not super easy. but achievable for most of us, and fun as hell.

i just start going back to gym on dec 5. yesterday was my 10th session & i did 130kgx2x5. currently a bit out of shape @ 80kg, adding up weight progressively. up 5kg 3 times a week.
my old record back in 09 was 190kgx3x5 @ 70kg. just when i was about to hit 3x, alas, real life kacau and i got posted oversea and stop lifting weight. vmad.gif (70kg is my lean weight with around 14% bf, i am short at 5"6')
remembering back those days in 09 was fun. i have a gym buddy who was like 6"2' or something like that, >100kg, who easily out-deadlifted me 50kg or more, always taunting me, calling me *****, making me furious as hell. but fostering up the competitive spirit.

i deadlift raw, no strap, only mix-grip or belt when i feel weak, regular stance. i do have a pair of sturdy weightlifting shoes though, not those regular nike, that helps.

deadlift is the most neglected exercise in commercial gym today, i guess the owners just don't want us to bang weight on the floor, f*** them, or change gym. deadlift is so good that it trains every single muscle group all at once proportionally, everything from neck down, so that we will not end up with big arm + chopstick leg, or big chest/weak back. it also give you the mental power not to be afraid of heavy tonnage.

seeing chicks do heavy tonnage is always fun, and i guess, malu a lot of others who just f*** around in the gym with sissy weight.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbWTv5U9PuU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RB-eGVKhoW0
pleowcw
post Dec 27 2012, 03:39 PM

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QUOTE(mikehuan @ Dec 27 2012, 02:46 PM)
Good stuff. Your poundage by far surpasses most of us btw. And by doing it strapless and no belt makes it even better.

Dont suppose yu got any vIDs?
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no at the moment, i will try to video it next monday @ 305 lbs hopefully.
i don't wanna video tape tomorrow because i did 285 lbs yesterday and my lower back was starting to feel it.
so tomorrow's work-out @ 295 lbs, i suspect will be quite bad in term of form.
give me the weekend to carb load and recover my upper body first. icon_rolleyes.gif
pleowcw
post Dec 27 2012, 06:06 PM

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QUOTE(Jason @ Dec 27 2012, 05:44 PM)
For those doing above 100kg deadlifts, how's your grip?

raw+overhand?
raw+mixed?
gloves+overhand?
gloves+mixed?

my current sticking point is the grip. fingers are literally getting ripped off my hands.
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bottle neck is grip strength for me too.
i wanna to develop strength proportionally, that's why i try to stick to overhand as much as possible. i got serious left/right strength imbalance btw.
no strap, i figure if my grip can't handle it, i have no biz pulling higher weight.
gloves doesn't help grip strength at all, nor reduce callous, worse still, sometimes it screws up the grip or path.
belt is sometimes necessarily to help u squeeze through the last 2 rep or so.
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post Dec 28 2012, 12:28 AM

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QUOTE(sickboy @ Dec 27 2012, 11:54 PM)
Is my DL routine correct?

After reps set ( 2 sets normally) of warm up, I go pyramid up with singles only. And I started mixed grip at beginning of my singles.

My main goal is Back development > strength
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hi sickboy,
i think ok one. as long as, (1) u warm up properly, and (2) u pull heavy enough, too light tak ada rasa...
i am deadlifting every workout now just to get back to near my previous number.
eventually gotta cut it down to maybe just once a week or once every two weeks,
because lower back muscle just isn't recovering fast enough.

weighted chin/pull up is good for overall back though.
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post Dec 31 2012, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(mikehuan @ Dec 27 2012, 02:46 PM)
Dont suppose yu got any vIDs?
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QUOTE(pleowcw @ Dec 27 2012, 03:39 PM)
no at the moment, i will try to video it next monday @ 305 lbs hopefully.
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hi hi hi, happy new year!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Q6-HiurriE&feature=youtu.be

note:
1. dec 31, 2012, ~ 11.45am, 12th workout session, slightly later than usual.
2. form jalan a bit hoh, i know i know. not use to getting video, should have taken more time to reset properly between rep. nevermind, there is always the next workout.
3. sorry, was 295 lbs, not 305 lbs as previously written. busted last friday's dl workout. instead of 2x5, did something like 6 singles. so weight stayed the same.
4. lower back fatigue is still there. on high sight, should had taken a more gradual incremental increase instead of those 20 lbs jump per session earlier on. now got no choice by to cut down the frequency and number of set.

QUOTE(joeblows @ Dec 29 2012, 06:02 PM)
I want to see those 190kg x3 pulls.
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sure bro, my pleasure. but you gotta wait a while though. even by optimistic projection, it will be sometimes in march or april. cny, planned vacation, inevitable reset and what not.

QUOTE(mikehuan @ Dec 30 2012, 04:07 PM)
pulled 170kg for a single yest though lol. Looks like strength didnt leave me yet tongue.gif. initially planned for 165kg but pulled that with no problems so i went for another set. gonna be a pr attempt next week.
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Congratulation bro!

QUOTE(mikehuan @ Dec 30 2012, 04:07 PM)
...3xBW for me is elite level. Would love to see anyone here do it.
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if i may kepuchi a little, may i know ur height and weight? because upon further thinking, ya, i forget that usually taller, bigger people have lower multiples. having said that, i still think it is doable for most regular people, or at least can put that down as a target in ur new year resolution loh ho?

if i may also say so, get a proper weightlifting shoe loh. a little bit of elevated hard heel really helps. http://www.roguefitness.com/rogue-weightlifting-shoes.php

lastly, just to share two youtube clips with u guys which i enjoyed very much. these people are damn hardcore! do it until u faint! do it until u puke!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdkN6JszCMk]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE09LkzoRpg]

This post has been edited by pleowcw: Dec 31 2012, 03:17 PM


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