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 Proton Prevé V15, Slow & Steady, Come Join Us Already..

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post Sep 12 2012, 12:49 PM

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quite rare to see goldfries in this thread...few years back often see him in hardware questions and answers section...
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post Sep 12 2012, 12:56 PM

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QUOTE(ruffstuff @ Sep 12 2012, 12:46 PM)
Ada..  everyday baca thread ni.  brows.gif
Ohh..  doh.gif

I also wondered what is the "+" for the IAFM+.
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if wanna say it adds power, no it doesn't.
if wanna say it adds driving experience, its still the same.

The only thing it adds is better materials for better "quality". So, safe to say the + represents longevity biggrin.gif

HAHAHA... XD

QUOTE(arthur88 @ Sep 12 2012, 12:49 PM)
quite rare to see goldfries in this thread...few years back often see him in hardware questions and answers section...
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well, this is a forum anyway. Each person will have their own sweet spot. Then once in a while, when there's a purchase decision to be made, then they will venture out of their sweet spot, ask some questions and gather feedbacks at another spot. Once the purchase has been made, then the nest step is to pasang ini pasang itu. Then they will back to their sweet spot. They rarely comes back to the other spot till a problem arise. tongue.gif
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post Sep 12 2012, 12:56 PM

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Ahah! Someone IDed u goldfries bro.. Hehehe tongue.gif
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post Sep 12 2012, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(Saya_Dhuang @ Sep 12 2012, 12:56 PM)
Ahah! Someone IDed u goldfries bro.. Hehehe tongue.gif
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when i was intern during diploma, i refer his website too...for assembling a desktop...

btw, goldfries, gonna get a preve soon? rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(tanpanama @ Sep 12 2012, 12:01 PM)
same engine...coz da volume of engine same...just retune engin with reduce horsepower and increase torque at 4000RPM while CPS at 4500RPM.
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its basically the same engine with some improvement of the parts with a better quality and material.. but one has to remember, persona comes with conventional auto transmission.. where by the preve executive comes with a state of the art CVT gearbox... the nature of CVT, it will adjust itself based on the load.. whether the car is fully loaded with 5 adults, or just only the driver, the "pulling" experience would be the same.. it acted differently from conventional gearbox where the "pulling" experience pretty much depending on the load... more load, heavier to move the car.. CVT, 1 person or 5 person, u as the driver would feel the same "moving power" of the car... rclxms.gif
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post Sep 12 2012, 01:14 PM

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QUOTE(multiplexer @ Sep 12 2012, 01:08 PM)
its basically the same engine with some improvement of the parts with a better quality and material.. but one has to remember, persona comes with conventional auto transmission.. where by the preve executive comes with a state of the art CVT gearbox... the nature of CVT, it will adjust itself based on the load.. whether the car is fully loaded with 5 adults, or just only the driver, the "pulling" experience would be the same.. it acted differently from conventional gearbox where the "pulling" experience pretty much depending on the load... more load, heavier to move the car.. CVT, 1 person or 5 person, u as the driver would feel the same "moving power" of the car...  rclxms.gif
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if driving on straight even road, yes, but if driving uphill with just one driver and with 5 adults are different...
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QUOTE(arthur88 @ Sep 12 2012, 01:14 PM)
if driving on straight even road, yes, but if driving uphill with just one driver and with 5 adults are different...
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that was justified.. Gravity law i guess.. but that was such an improvement compared to the persona... biggrin.gif
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post Sep 12 2012, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(tanpanama @ Sep 12 2012, 12:05 PM)
i already drive both, persona and preve.. in S mode u can beat persona easily.. but preve exect design not for top speed...
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So means preve exec can beat persona easily wit s mode?
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post Sep 12 2012, 01:54 PM

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as far ive been informed, iafm+ is actually a derivation from cfe,while retaining original campro cubic capacity. While cfe has cvvt component n discard iafm coz using fix resonance plus turbo, iafm+ just a cfe without turbo n cvvt while retaining iafm unit.

Iafm unit still the same, but material used a bit diff(thats why some wear n tear part schedule same as cfe except for plugs n air filter). Besides, previous iafm using 16 bit ems 700 ecu load based ecu while iafm+ using 32 bit easy ecu torque based n of coz calibration is totally different.

And for drive terrain, prev iafm mated with mitsu 4at trans while iafm+ using punch cvt unit n powerloss on trans will be diff coz 4at using torque con while cvt using clutch which giving direct link to the wheel almost like manual.

Less is more, that is what iafm+ compare to iafm, even with reduce hp(but achieve it at lower rpm), but if compare to the loss of trans, it still gives more than iafm 4 at unit.

Of course driving uphill full load will have effect even cvt coz even for turbo charged, u can still feel the diff compare to drive on flat road. But if using prev iafm on preve, it will cause severely undertorque n power compare to iafm+.

Bye.
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QUOTE(mat79 @ Sep 12 2012, 01:54 PM)
as far ive been informed, iafm+ is actually a derivation from cfe,while retaining original campro cubic capacity. While cfe has cvvt component n discard iafm coz using fix resonance plus turbo, iafm+ just a cfe without turbo n cvvt while retaining iafm unit.

Iafm unit still the same, but material used a bit diff(thats why some wear n tear part schedule same as cfe except for plugs n air filter). Besides, previous iafm using 16 bit ems 700 ecu load based ecu while iafm+ using 32 bit easy ecu torque based n of coz calibration is totally different.

And for drive terrain, prev iafm mated with mitsu 4at trans while iafm+ using punch cvt unit n powerloss on trans will be diff coz 4at using torque con while cvt using clutch which giving direct link to the wheel almost like manual.

Less is more, that is what iafm+ compare to iafm, even with reduce hp(but achieve it at lower rpm), but if compare to the loss of trans, it still gives more than iafm 4 at unit.

Of course driving uphill full load will have effect even cvt coz even for turbo charged, u can still feel the diff compare to drive on flat road. But if using prev iafm on preve, it will cause severely undertorque n power compare to iafm+.

Bye.
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YB mat79, rumours has it that the new Persona Standard uses the IAFM+ engine, any truth to that?
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post Sep 12 2012, 02:15 PM

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just found new video uploaded on youtube. Says batch 17xx like a chasis number it seems. Is this owv issue?
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post Sep 12 2012, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(GoldenHawk @ Sep 11 2012, 11:46 PM)
Summary:
1) Wasted almost 4 hours waiting for nothing. What's the point of an appointment when you have to wait 1 hour before you're even attended to?!!!

Sorry for ranting here guys, just wanted you guys to know what service I got here so far... Disappointing to say the least... sad.gif
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I spent 4 hours in COSE to change 1 piece plastic cover..COSE is better than SC glenmarie.. laugh.gif


like dhuang avatar..

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post Sep 12 2012, 02:24 PM

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learn so many new thing about engine today rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(rich8833 @ Sep 12 2012, 02:16 PM)
I spent 4 hours in COSE to change 1 piece plastic cover..COSE is better than SC glenmarie.. laugh.gif
like dhuang avatar..
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I like the irony & sarcasm in this... thumbup.gif

Ahahaha.. Whats that? "Anak Inak Melintas?" laugh.gif Nasib baik bukan "Anak Ikan Melintas..."

QUOTE(maverickng @ Sep 12 2012, 02:24 PM)
learn so many new thing about engine today rclxms.gif
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Correct! nod.gif Me too bro, me too!
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QUOTE(samwongjyhhorng @ Sep 12 2012, 01:33 PM)
So means preve exec can beat persona easily wit s mode?
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I think so also.. In S mode Preve can beat Persona easily icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(rich8833 @ Sep 12 2012, 02:16 PM)
I spent 4 hours in COSE to change 1 piece plastic cover..COSE is better than SC glenmarie.. laugh.gif
like dhuang avatar..
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LOL...berhenti KANAK KANAK MELINTAS biggrin.gif
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post Sep 12 2012, 02:36 PM

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What if ANAK PINAK MELINTAS??
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hello guys,anyone ever try removing c pillar cover?that lock button stick to the cover or wat?hard to korek keluar lah,my car got wire hitting body when d car is swaying,bootlid wiring checked,speaker panel checked,trunk side wiring checked,no problem or loosed thing,suspecting from the pillar mentioned...so damn annoying...


so lama x masuk lyn rclxms.gif goldfries notworthy.gif

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post Sep 12 2012, 03:28 PM

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persona elegance has a bit change in its engine, that is the ecu, but the engine is the same as prev iafm. Only ecu change, from 16bit to 32 bit unit. Still using 4at trans. Never heard that new baseline using iafm+ n cvt. only cosmetic(sport rims) n additional pass airbag include.

About discomfort on sc especially, please write to i care@use the complaint form available in sc. Includes the service invoice number as reference. I know some may say that its a waste of time, but if the report received by good hands, it still can make a diff.


Added on September 12, 2012, 3:28 pmpersona elegance has a bit change in its engine, that is the ecu, but the engine is the same as prev iafm. Only ecu change, from 16bit to 32 bit unit. Still using 4at trans. Never heard that new baseline using iafm+ n cvt. only cosmetic(sport rims) n additional pass airbag include.

About discomfort on sc especially, please write to i care@use the complaint form available in sc. Includes the service invoice number as reference. I know some may say that its a waste of time, but if the report received by good hands, it still can make a diff.


Added on September 12, 2012, 3:32 pmand if they make a last change about persona, i dunno about that.

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post Sep 12 2012, 03:55 PM

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Dhuang should take this to work..can wake up late some more..kg medan to capsq..then park on capsq rooftop..get special permission from the management office.. rclxms.gif


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QUOTE(greactor @ Sep 12 2012, 03:04 PM)
hello guys,anyone ever try removing c pillar cover?that lock button stick to the cover or wat?hard to korek keluar lah,my car got wire hitting body when d car is swaying,bootlid wiring checked,speaker panel checked,trunk side wiring checked,no problem or loosed thing,suspecting from the pillar mentioned...so damn annoying...
so lama x masuk lyn rclxms.gif  goldfries notworthy.gif
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for me, just complain to SC and let them do it, we are not expert, after korek korek pecah how? no warranty..

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