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post Oct 21 2012, 03:58 PM

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hi guys,

im not technical on this, but does laptop with SATA disk on laptop compaq v3000, replace with SSD disk?

does SSD use same connector with SATA?

tq
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post Oct 21 2012, 07:17 PM

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I've been using Corsair Force 3 and GT , both speed i try on booting windows and running software. Which GT is faster than Force 3 around 3sec in booting up windows the logo of the loading windows just 2 sec then already boot into the windows. For software loading speed also 2 sec different from click to open up. Also, i use Force 3 on a Notebook which is AMD Dual Core E450, the speed is same with my Desktop AMD 965 with normal Harddisk. Those is just boot/open speed.
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QUOTE(rd33 @ Oct 21 2012, 02:01 PM)
Hi guys, I need your advice on buying SSD for my Laptop Lenovo Y580. Need SSD that is compatible with my laptop. Budget is RM 600...so looking like 240GB and above. Really appreciate your help. TQ
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We don't hear of compatibility issues, so I wouldn't expect any from that angle.



QUOTE(cawan @ Oct 21 2012, 03:58 PM)
im not technical on this, but does laptop with SATA disk on laptop compaq v3000, replace with SSD disk?

does SSD use same connector with SATA?
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The common 2.5" SSDs are indeed using SATA. As for compatibility between the various SATA versions, there are no compatibility issues. You can buy the latest SSD and plug it into the oldest computer with SATA and it should run. In the worst case, you should be able to return the SSD to the shop - be sure to ask for their return policies.

I can't confirm for the v3000, I don't even know if they use SATA, but I have personally done it with a v3500 with no problems.

If you are still on Windows XP and you are going to do a fresh install for your SSD, it would be best to have the necessary SATA drivers or your XP install disk has Service Pack 3. However, there are workarounds if you don't have them and you still intend to install Windows XP.
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QUOTE(everling @ Oct 21 2012, 08:08 PM)
If you are still on Windows XP and you are going to do a fresh install for your SSD, it would be best to have the necessary SATA drivers or your XP install disk has Service Pack 3. However, there are workarounds if you don't have them and you still intend to install Windows XP.
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i think to get full benefit of using ssd, one should also consider windows 7 that supports trim.


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post Oct 22 2012, 12:06 AM

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QUOTE(jinaun @ Oct 21 2012, 11:13 PM)
i think to get full benefit of using ssd, one should also consider windows 7 that supports trim.
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I have used an SSD with Windows XP for a long while, and have abused it quite thoroughly by spending weeks on program compilation on a Virtual Machine, before I changed to Windows 7, so I can say that TRIM support is not necessary to get the full benefit of SSDs.

In fact, the average user will be hard pressed to immediately notice the presence or absence of TRIM. It took a few months before people realised that there was a performance problem and that TRIM was one of two solutions created to solve it. The other solution was passive garbage collection, as opposed to TRIM's active garbage collection, and it should be present on most - if not all - modern SSD firmware.

For anyone who is still using Windows XP, please do not let it be a barrier to your decision process in buying an SSD. While SSD-aware OSes like Windows 7 will do better, SSDs will still work almost as fast on older OSes like Windows XP.

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Intel 335 Series Solid State Drive Appears in Japan

The 330 Series solid state drives are already old news for Intel as the Santa Clara-based company has already begun to roll out the 335 Series drives. The first 335 model, codenamed SSDSC2CT240A4K5, has went on sale in Japan and it features a 240 GB capacity, a 2.5-inch form factor (9.5 mm thickness), a SATA 6.0 Gbps interface, a SandForce SF-2281 controller, and 20 nm MLC (multi-level cell) NAND Flash memory.

Intel's 335 Series SSD delivers read/write speeds of up to 500/450 MB/s, is backed by a three-year warranty, and costs ¥16,980 (about $214). 80 GB and 180 GB models are expected to arrive in Q1 2013.

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post Oct 23 2012, 01:37 AM

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Vertex 4 128gb here in the house.. wazzup2.. hehe
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Vertex 4 128gb here in the house.. wazzup2.. hehe
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QUOTE(soultaker @ Oct 23 2012, 11:28 AM)

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sry was my first time started to following the thread n yet didnt meant for spamming.. will pm him my models..

chill mate.. cheers.. =)
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QUOTE(volume_power @ Oct 23 2012, 10:34 AM)
sry was my first time started to following the thread n yet didnt meant for spamming.. will pm him my models..

chill mate.. cheers.. =)
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no issue. anyway welcome to the club. how's your SSD performance? any feedback?
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was absolutely marvelous.. since the day I bought it the firmware was likely stable..

the poor thing for me is that Im still having my sata 2.0 mobo.. n bought out a PCIE card sata 3.0 slot in to my mobo but still the performance cant be the same as a mobo straightly having sata 3.0 holes..

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QUOTE(volume_power @ Oct 23 2012, 10:55 AM)
was absolutely marvelous.. since the day I bought it the firmware was likely stable..

the poor thing for me is that Im still having my sata 2.0 mobo.. n bought out a PCIE card sata 3.0 slot in to my mobo but still the performance cant be the same as a mobo straightly having sata 3.0 holes..

here's some screenshots..

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Overall i think is good already, bettter than change to new mobo just for the sake fully utilize the ssd potential.

third party sata card usually using marvel chip, many high end mobo also using the same thing, basically it has no match for native intel/amd sata 3 controller.
unless you bought the LSI pcie sata 3 card, which prolly will make some difference but its very expensive.
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QUOTE(1024kbps @ Oct 23 2012, 12:58 PM)
Overall i think is good already, bettter than change to new mobo just for the sake fully utilize the ssd potential.

third party sata card usually using marvel chip, many high end mobo also using the same thing, basically it has no match for native intel/amd sata 3 controller.
unless you bought the LSI pcie sata 3 card, which prolly will make some difference but its very expensive.
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Owh I didnt make my studies on LSIs.. I am totally noob lol.. doh.gif
Any way, how much do they sell for a simple design LSI pcie sata 3 card here?
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QUOTE(volume_power @ Oct 23 2012, 01:41 PM)
Owh I didnt make my studies on LSIs..  I am totally noob lol..  doh.gif 
Any way, how much do they sell for a simple design LSI pcie sata 3 card here?
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Well im no pro either, im still learning everyday sweat.gif
LSI is not for average pc user though, http://www.lsi.com/products/storagecompone...SAS9750-4i.aspx
You can check the other HBAs as well, cheapest one is 2xx USD tongue.gif
You may see some improvements on the benchmark but honestly, you can hardly feel any difference in real world scenario.

And honestly, your AS SSD benchmark result are better than mine, even though im using 990X mobo with HyperX SSD doh.gif
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post Oct 24 2012, 02:12 PM

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guys havin prob here... planing to get a ssd....bt confusion between diz corsair force gt 120gb and intel 520 120gb ....duno wic one to choose ....can help me out here...thx !
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QUOTE(riderz135 @ Oct 24 2012, 02:12 PM)
guys havin prob here... planing to get a ssd....bt confusion between diz corsair force gt 120gb and intel 520 120gb ....duno wic one to choose ....can  help me out here...thx !
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QUOTE(whis @ Oct 20 2012, 02:37 PM)
anyone use PM45+ICH9-M run with SSD?
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Dunno how i miss this post but i use Intel 320 Series 80GB SSD on P45 Desktop chipset
Highly recommend SSD for any desktop/laptop rclxms.gif
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Samsung 840 PRO SSD

Samsung has released a SSDs under the name 840 PRO. Coming in three different storage capacities: 128GB, 256GB and 512GB, these slim 2.5-inch SSDs (7mm thick) are equipped with MLC NAND Flash memory chips, a SATA 6.0 Gbps interface and capable of delivering read/write speeds of up to 530/390 MB/s (128GB Model) and 540/520 MB/s (256GB & 512GB Models), respectively. The 128GB, 256GB and 512GB models are priced at $149.99, $269.99 and $599.99, respectively. We'll try and get a sample in soon for a review.

source : http://www.guru3d.com/news_story/samsung_840_pro_ssd.html

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QUOTE(primaroti @ Oct 26 2012, 09:44 AM)

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do correct me if i'm wrong:
supposingly, TLC lifespan < MLC lifespan.
performance wise, I don't think more than half of SSD users actually utilizes it's full performance.
so, might as well go for 830 instead of 840. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(lucidlts @ Oct 26 2012, 02:14 PM)
do correct me if i'm wrong:
supposingly, TLC lifespan < MLC lifespan.
performance wise, I don't think more than half of SSD users actually utilizes it's full performance.
so, might as well go for 830 instead of 840. tongue.gif
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Despite TLC NAND having less p/e cycles and performs a little slower, it does have one benefit that MLC NAND can't match: It will eventually be a lot cheaper than MLC NAND, significantly cheaper.

Also, having less p/e cycles doesn't mean that it has less lifespan. If your TLC NAND p/e consumption is less than your MLC NAND p/e consumption, it is possible for a TLC NAND SSD to outlast an MLC NAND SSD. It is heavily dependent on usage.

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