To remove the system reserved partition, you need to partition your SSD/HDD first, then install Windows on it. There are guides for it that you can google up.
The SSD Thread V3, The Speed You Need
The SSD Thread V3, The Speed You Need
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Aug 18 2012, 10:45 PM
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To remove the system reserved partition, you need to partition your SSD/HDD first, then install Windows on it. There are guides for it that you can google up.
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Aug 23 2012, 06:18 PM
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QUOTE(kuekwee @ Aug 23 2012, 05:59 PM) SSD for speed and shock resistant only. Not design to last long. Life spam i think few times shorter than HDD. My oldest SSD is currently 2 years old, and I am sure that there are other forumers with older SSDs.Added on August 23, 2012, 6:20 pm QUOTE(dragon528 @ Aug 23 2012, 05:53 PM) I have no idea if that SSD is good or not.This post has been edited by everling: Aug 23 2012, 06:20 PM |
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QUOTE(dragon528 @ Aug 23 2012, 06:25 PM) After check with the price and do compare. It seems worth for the capacity. I got check review around google, it seems that speed is slower compare other. Not really understand the review and also not sure is it the same model too. I wouldn't buy that SSD due to fear, uncertainty and doubt (FUD).And considering your rig, surely you can afford to pay the regular price for a reputable 256GB SSD with full warranty. The most expensive component in my rig is my SSD. This post has been edited by everling: Aug 23 2012, 06:55 PM |
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QUOTE(tot31 @ Aug 28 2012, 12:43 PM) Sorry to burst your bubble, but scoring high in benchmarks is not "worth it", unless that was your goal. The average user really can't use all that performance, for example, it won't help you watch videos faster. |
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If the only reason you want to buy a good SATA 6.0 Gb/s motherboard is to pair it with your SATA 6.0 GB/s SSD, then you probably should not do it. In fact, if you have a better use for your money, then you should not do it.
Not only is replacing the motherboard a lot of work, as you need to dismantle your rig to do it, the typical usage performance gain is rather little. If you have budget issues, it would be best to wait until you replace your CPU as well. Added on August 31, 2012, 6:15 pm QUOTE(moiskyrie @ Aug 31 2012, 11:22 AM) want to ask, if my system is ssd, and i download torrent to other hdd, will the ssd die quick? Your SSD won't die faster. I download my torrents to my SSD.thank. This post has been edited by everling: Aug 31 2012, 06:15 PM |
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QUOTE(akky @ Sep 7 2012, 09:16 AM) Just got my Intel SSD 520 120gb yesterday. Did a fresh install of Win 7. Running on Sata 6Gb/s port and AHI mode but my benchmark is so low. Do a benchmark with ATTO. It should be closer to the specs.Ran Intel SSD Toolbox and confirmed is running latest firmware. Any idea what's wrong here? thanks in advance This post has been edited by everling: Sep 7 2012, 09:24 AM |
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QUOTE(akky @ Sep 7 2012, 10:13 AM) I did the test with ATTO. Yes, it looks good but why the other looks so bad and different? Yes. The benchmark is showing 500 MB/s read/write as expected. The reason for the difference is in how the programs benchmark the SSD and how the SSD works.This is normal? CrystalDiskMark and AS-SSD uses random data when writing and reading and ATTO uses non-random data for the same tasks. SandForce-based SSDs, including Intel 330 and 520, uses data compression when reading and writing to the SSD. So SandForce-based SSDs perform poorly on incompressible random data but performs very well on compressible non-random data. This is the reason for the difference. In short, if you want to test if your SSD is working correctly according to specifications, always use ATTO. Or some other benchmarking tool that can use compressible test data. This post has been edited by everling: Sep 7 2012, 12:11 PM |
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QUOTE(junkieG @ Sep 7 2012, 11:02 AM) good performance ssd under rm600+- for video encoding..will be using for laptop Any SSD will do, preferably the highest capacity you can get for your budget. You are likely to be bottlenecked by your CPU during the transcoding, so perhaps even a good HDD will do if capacity is important enough. Then again, if your laptop has USB 3.0 or you can install a second HDD, then you can stick with an SSD in your laptop as your primary for your OS and applications.Please recommend....is corsair gt OK compare to crucial M4? what about vertex 4? thank you QUOTE(Effy92 @ Sep 7 2012, 07:11 PM) Just migrate my os to intel 330 at my hp mini, my rig currently at my hometown, The read performance is good, but the write performance doesn't look right.My hp mini use Sata 3Gb/s so that the benchmark that i got, is the benchmark ok for sata2? look like too low Just check at hp mini thread my netbook running AHCI mode and TRIM enable Do you have the Intel toolkit installed? It should be able to help in diagnosing performance issues and how to solve it. This post has been edited by everling: Sep 7 2012, 07:25 PM |
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QUOTE(Effy92 @ Sep 7 2012, 07:33 PM) Already installed the toolkit and optimize using the optimizer, and no performance issues stated there ,, Then I have no idea what might be the problem, sorry.QUOTE(ketapang @ Sep 8 2012, 02:39 PM) My budget is around RM350 only. Intel 520 is way to expensive for me. I'll also vote for the Intel 330.I don't really care about the speed, as long it reaches around 480MB++ then it's consider okay. The most important aspect is the reliability. I already narrow my choice for Intel 330 or Samsung 830. But Vertex 4 keeps coming to my head. QUOTE(quest_5692 @ Sep 8 2012, 03:12 PM) hi, As stated, current SSDs are still backwards compatible with very old SATA hardware. But you might not see much performance difference due to weak CPU performance.i would like to buy 1 ssd for my dad's old thinkpad x61, the BIOS only support sata 1 but can bios hack to support sata 2. anyone know where can buy used old ssd? i dun think anyone selling sata 1 or 2 brand new adi lol. QUOTE(milky @ Sep 8 2012, 06:50 PM) That benchmark looks correct for your SSD bottlenecked by SATA 3.0 GB/s. All is fine. |
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QUOTE(syin16 @ Sep 9 2012, 10:21 PM) Crucial's M4? Marvell controller.QUOTE(leo0089 @ Sep 10 2012, 04:19 AM) hi guys, just got myself a 60gb Intel 330, and did the optimization, Ignore AS for SSD performance validation. Only ATTO is acceptable because they use compressible data.so the bmark is suppose to be normal right? low seq. write in AS [attachmentid=3042090] As for the lower write speed, that seems correct for 60GB SSDs. QUOTE(Lurker @ Sep 10 2012, 09:04 AM) Jayacom has it in their late August price list. |
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QUOTE(availyboy @ Sep 15 2012, 10:34 AM) But i bought a 520 intel 120gb as well. The five years warranty isn't a good deal.Serves me quite good,purchased yesterday =P 5years warranty is the best part hahahaa Three years ago, in September 2009, the first-generation OCZ Vertex 120GB (Indilynx controller, before the SandForce controller) SATA 3.0 Gb/s cost RM 1,599. In 2010, the first-generation Intel SSD X25-M 160GB was going for RM 1,850. Today, an Intel 330 120GB (SandForce controller) SATA 6.0 Gb/s costs only RM 310. In two more years, I expect a 120GB SSD to go under RM 150, perhaps even under RM 100, if the capacity remains available in the market. Three years from now, you might go out and buy a 480GB SSD for maybe less than RM300. Five years from now? Who knows. Or to look at it in another way, the first generation Intel SSD, the X25-M, also had a five year warranty and it was first released in around August 2008. Meaning that these SSDs would start to have their warranties expire next year. If Intel will still have replacement X25-Ms in stock and you own a hypothetical X25-M that fails next year, will you bother going through the RMA process or would you just go and buy a cheap, modern and high-performance SSD? Then again, if you typically have rather old components in your computer, maybe it was a good deal for you. |
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QUOTE(availyboy @ Sep 15 2012, 08:33 PM) Eventually, don't forget that you have mentioned that "warranty starts to expire next year" is not a valid sentence. Why? Cards who gives 5 years warranty such as ZOTAC, is still valid, Why?, even though the market doesn't sell GTX295 anymore,they will replace with a newer card. Even in that case, the cheaper and shorter warranty item is still the better deal, because you get the option to replace ageing hardware sooner. With a five year warranty, you'll have to keep using it for two years longer in order to maximise your 'investment'. Whereas with a three year warranty, you can keep on using your SSD until it dies of old age or you can replace it with a newer model of your choice if you need more capacity or speed.Which do you think it's a better deal then? True,i've heard alot of things about intel, still it's SF controller for 330 and 520. So not really sure. Heard about reliability of crucial m4 as well.. hmm QUOTE(ukimaro @ Sep 16 2012, 08:40 PM) Hey guys may I know whether an ssd deliver most of it's performance combining with an old am3 socket board that only has sata 2 ports? Thanks Yes, it will still deliver most of its performance. The primary advantage of SSDs is in its access time, and consequently the very high random read/write speeds, not the even higher sequential read/write speeds. SATA 3.0 Gb/s will not bottleneck this very high random read/write speeds as they are still less than 250 MB/s.QUOTE(ck.chunkeat @ Sep 16 2012, 08:56 PM) Hey guys,im using a lenovo y580 notebook. And im planning to swap the optical drive for hdd and use a ssd in the hdd bay. I would recommend the Intel 330 series for a good balance between cost, capacity, reliability, availability and ease of warranty. Since you are keeping your HDD in the ODD bay, a 60 GB SSD will be enough if your budget is very tight. Otherwise I would recommend either a 120 GB or 180 GB for more flexibility and much better bang for buck. The 120 GB has 100% more capacity but costs only ~54% more than the 60 GB.I'm kinda on a tight budget,so i wana get a best bang for bucks ssd. Anyone can recommend me a ssd? And how many gb should i get?probably gona just load in my os,a few games and a few programmes.. QUOTE(ukimaro @ Sep 16 2012, 10:22 PM) Thanks bro but does it have full transfer speeds in terms of write/read ? If your SSD is a SATA 6.0 Gb/s SSD, it will bottleneck the sequential read/write. But not the random read/write, which is where the SSD's primary advantage is in.or is it advisable to upgrade mobo ? My bro wanna buy M4 or 330. his mobo is here . http://my.msi.com/product/mb/770-C35.html QUOTE(kona|kona @ Sep 17 2012, 01:12 PM) ohh . wrong thread but anyhwow , how to cool hot hdd ? install fan in the back of the casing ? I would strongly not recommend installing a fan directly on a HDD. The fan's vibrations might be harmful to the HDD.coz i see some skru holes |
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QUOTE(ck.chunkeat @ Sep 17 2012, 01:53 PM) Is 60gb enough to pair with my 500gb hdd? For now,im left with 300gb space and my comp is still quite new,2 weeks old. It depends on how big your applications and games get. Laptop HDDs tend to be under-performers (because they need to reduce power consumption and heat generated) so I would prefer to store them on the SSD. The 120 GB would be a better buy for most people because of this and it does simplify things by quite a bit - you don't have to worry about the cramped storage space in a 60 GB SSD, unless all your applications, games and future usage will comfortably fit within 55 GiB.Anyway,i think 60gb might not be so future proof..am i right? Also,will there be any price drop in the near future? (in year 2012) I say 55 GiB because 60 GB = 60,000,000,000 bytes = 55.87 GiB. Windows internally uses GiB despite using the GB label. This is the reason your 500 GB HDD has only 465.66 GiB of actual capacity. As for near future price drops, I don't know. I haven't kept up-to-date on the manufacturer road maps. This post has been edited by everling: Sep 17 2012, 02:23 PM |
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QUOTE(whitewhite @ Sep 29 2012, 12:18 AM) here is the benchmark test for my Intel 520 120GB SSD, i just bought it few days ago but sometimes i can't load into the windows dekstop is it any problem with this SSD @.@ Benchmark is fine. Your problem remains unknown.QUOTE(blacktubi @ Sep 29 2012, 11:30 AM) I am going to get Samsung 830 128GB but I am still using an old school 775 mobo. In benchmarking, yes, but in practical usage, not really. SATA version is not a reason to not use SSDs.Will SATA II cause a huge impact on speed? |
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QUOTE(blacktubi @ Sep 30 2012, 06:11 PM) Thanks a lot I'd recommend the Intel 330 due to price.Which do you guys recommend. OCZ and Intel is out due to it's price M4 vs 830 which is a better choice As refer to benchmark 830 seem slightly better than M4 and some mentioned Samsung SSD is reliable QUOTE(whitewhite @ Sep 30 2012, 07:42 PM) I do not know. There are a lot of possible causes of failure between a power on to getting to your desktop. Your description of the problem was insufficient to diagnose the problem.Did you try the SSD optimisation guide? Or perhaps try checking your cables? QUOTE(jns6888 @ Sep 30 2012, 08:29 PM) ya,thx u recommend me. I would recommend buying the Intel 330 180GB. It should cost less.I would like to purchase a ASUS K46cm with i5 3317U notebook, the techician ask me buy corsair SSD for it ,is abt 480MYR. but both are now no stock now.... my budget is below 500 for SSD need to clear to understand abt the SSD different QUOTE(Calvin789 @ Sep 30 2012, 08:50 PM) hi guys..planning to change the hdd of my laptop..since im gonna take dj'ing as my career does ssd load songs faster? Probably not. HDDs may be slower and less responsive than SSDs, but decent programs should be able to cache the songs appropriately so that you won't feel or hear the delay. But if you are able to comfortably budget for a decent SSD, I would recommend it anyway for the overall improvement, particularly in rebooting your computer and starting up your programs. And perhaps your DJ program would also benefit in some way. |
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QUOTE(kuekwee @ Oct 2 2012, 03:11 PM) My m4 is doing fine, should i upgrade it? I check the website it can just update like that right, not like OCZ canot update primary window drive is it? Sorry for the noob question. QUOTE This is an OPTIONAL update for any drive in the field. It is only recommended if the end user is experiencing an issue related to the following items. Do NOT use any other m4 firmware update for your 2.5” SSD such as the 01MG firmware for the mSATA form factor. Version 010G includes the following changes: Improved Trim response time Improved power-on-to-ready time (known as POR, or TTR for Time-to-ready) Improved resume-time from low power modes, and improved reliability of warm reboot Improved power consumption by disabling HIPM (Host Initiated Power Management) This is not intended to be a performance patch and is only intended if the end user experiences any of the four listed items. If you do not know what they are or you haven't noticed any problem, you probably do not need this update. |
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QUOTE(aspire2oo6 @ Oct 3 2012, 08:44 PM) i curious do u really need that big SSD? I am only using a 60GB SSD the rest i have HD It depends on individual needs and whether it is going into a laptop or a desktop. For laptops, you definitely want larger capacity SSDs.1TB x 2 and 3TB x 1 SSD allocate for system and some common use apps |
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