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post Aug 7 2012, 10:32 PM, updated 14y ago

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IGB REIT offers 670m units in RM838m IPO


KUALA LUMPUR, Aug 7 – Malaysia’s IGB Real Estate Investment Trust (REIT) will offer up to 670 million units in an initial public offering (IPO) that could fetch as much as RM838 million. The flotation, expected to debut on Sept. 19, is the fourth largest initial public offer (IPO) in the Southeast Asian country this year after the planned listing of Astro All Asia Network Plc.

The IPO will provide the country’s largest REIT by asset value with more financial muscle to buy real estate in the future. The IPO comprises 469 million units for sale to institutional and selected investors and another 201 million units to eligible directors, employees and the public, according to the draft prospectus of the offer filed yesterday. The retail portion is priced at an indicative price of RM1.25 per share while the institutional price will be determined on Sept 4, after the bookbuilding ends. The bookbuilding process will start on Aug. 28, according to the prospectus. Based on the retail price of RM1.25 per share, post-IPO IGB Reit would have a market capitalisation of RM4.25 billion, the largest in Malaysia ahead of Pavilion Real Estate Investment Trust. IGB REIT, a unit of Malaysian property firm IGB Corp Bhd , has hired CIMB Investment Bank and Hong Leong Investment Bank as the joint principal advisers and joint managing underwriters for the IPO. CIMB, Credit Suisse and Hong Leong are the joint global coordinators, while CIMB, Citigroup, Credit Suisse, DBS, Deutsche Bank, Goldman Sachs, Hong Leong, HSBC, JP Morgan and Maybank are the joint book runners. Joint underwriters are AmInvestment, CIMB, Hong Leong and Maybank. In addition to IGB REIT’s listing for the remaining part of the year, Malaysia’s second richest man Ananda Krishnan also plans to re-list his pay-TV firm Astro in a deal that could fetch as much as US$1.5 billion (RM4.65 billion). – Reuters

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http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/1993103/+2080#entry53654764

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for me are big no no ... not worth ...
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post Aug 7 2012, 10:57 PM

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look at pavilion REIT, this one could be big one
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post Aug 7 2012, 11:20 PM

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QUOTE(davidcch07 @ Aug 7 2012, 10:56 PM)
for me are big no no ... not worth ...
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Can u justify ur opinion? why is it not worth? I am planning to help my mom apply for this IPO biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(bursalchemy @ Aug 8 2012, 12:20 AM)
Can u justify ur opinion? why is it not worth? I am planning to help my mom apply for this IPO biggrin.gif
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different ppl got different view.... so far the biggest IPO REIT... could be Pavreit and Sunreit... both also Retail Mall...


Those IPO is below 1rm.... why IGBREIT 1.25? For me will skip...
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QUOTE(davidcch07 @ Aug 7 2012, 11:32 PM)
different ppl got different view.... so far the biggest IPO REIT... could be Pavreit and Sunreit... both also Retail Mall...
Those IPO is below 1rm.... why IGBREIT 1.25? For me will skip...
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Bro,

when Pav Reits IPO listing early of the year, it's only 0.88 sen...look at in now....Today already RM1.36

For ur info ,

Mid Valley is one the hottest Retail Mall in Malaysia, high traffic, and still got room to growth...

I think IGB Reits given time will be ROOM ROOM ROOOMM>>>>all the way

Invest or not..up to u all

BTW for ur info,

U can get this IGB Reits below IPO price , the parent company KASSETS closed to RM8.74 equivalent to 1.20 IGB REITS......so grap it before to late.......
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post Aug 8 2012, 10:24 AM

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Does this means that if i buy KASSETS share today, i will entitle to IGB REITS automatically?
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post Aug 8 2012, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(minshome @ Aug 8 2012, 10:24 AM)
Does this means that if i buy KASSETS share today, i will entitle to IGB REITS automatically?
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Yes.
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post Aug 8 2012, 11:37 AM

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QUOTE(minshome @ Aug 8 2012, 10:24 AM)
Does this means that if i buy KASSETS share today, i will entitle to IGB REITS automatically?
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Anyone care to explain this? Or anywhere i can read about this?
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post Aug 8 2012, 11:45 AM

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 8 2012, 10:40 AM)
Yes.
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may I ask, how many units of its REIT would be given for Kassets though?
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 8 2012, 10:40 AM)
Yes.
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I'm confused. Some say KASSETS and some say IGB. Where did you get this information?


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I'm confused. Some say KASSETS and some say IGB. Where did you get this information?
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NOW KASSET PRICE RM 8.78 equivalent to IGB REITS = RM 1.21..still below IPO Price

GRAP IT B4 too late... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(katesamsung @ Aug 8 2012, 03:07 PM)
NOW KASSET PRICE RM 8.78 equivalent to IGB REITS  = RM 1.21..still below IPO Price

GRAP IT B4 too late... biggrin.gif
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Will it be high percentage that the IPO price will be revised after closing IPO?
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post Aug 8 2012, 02:37 PM

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i dont understand. how does it work? buy kasset can get igb reits for 1.21. Anyone care to explain?
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post Aug 8 2012, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(minshome @ Aug 8 2012, 02:28 PM)
Will it be high percentage that the IPO price will be revised after closing IPO?
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no1 can predict. but yes it can happen.
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post Aug 8 2012, 04:16 PM

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QUOTE(GloryKnight @ Aug 8 2012, 02:53 PM)
no1 can predict. but yes it can happen.
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With

SUnreit = 1.49
PAvreit = 1.37

Both also retail Malls reits...price at all time high..u think it will revised or not....

Invest or not..up to u ..!

Still under IPO price now...i assume when the propestus is out....it wont under IPO price anymore

So grap while u can ! KASSETS
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post Aug 8 2012, 04:24 PM

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bro. now rm8, i dont have money to buy, 100 units can onot? then they give me 500 units? LOL

anyway, i really no bullets left now, i can kiss astro ipo bye bye also.
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Got any analysis on this IPO not?? based on previous comments, i could see a mix opinion on investing this IPO. Very confuse now rclxub.gif
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post Aug 8 2012, 06:07 PM

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QUOTE(Nama saya Amad @ Aug 8 2012, 02:37 PM)
i dont understand. how does it work? buy kasset can get igb reits for 1.21. Anyone care to explain?
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QUOTE(iamsobloodysick @ Aug 8 2012, 06:07 PM)
thanks but rclxub.gif rclxub.gif

i still have a lot to learn unsure.gif blush.gif blush.gif
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KASSETS 8.86 liao...> ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMM

COngrat to bro who bought earlier

Stil under IPO ...GRAP it b4 too late


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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 9 2012, 09:58 AM)
Kasset next bid is RM9

I wonder if anybody going to buy >RM9? brows.gif
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Those dun wan to play wheel of fortune.....if buy 1 lot ..confirm 5.24 lot of IGB Reits

Hold 6 months ..big fruit coming icon_rolleyes.gif


KASSETS 8.90 liao...ROOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMM icon_rolleyes.gif

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Dated July 2012 …

IGB Corp will reap an estimated rm770 million cash from listing of IGB REIT that houses two shopping malls – Mid Valley Megamall and The Gardens Mall. IGB Corp will receive cash proceeds, in the form of capital repayment, from its 63.5% stake KrisAssets Holdings Bhd, which is disposing the two malls into IGB REIT.

With the fresh proceed from the IPO, IGB Corp will sit on net cash of rm484 million. As at Dec 2011, the group had net borrowings of rm286 million.

With the enlarged war chest, some quarters anticipate that IGB corp may be on an acquisition trail to acquire assets abroad.

IGB REIT has committed to pay out 100% of earnings in 2013 and 2014 after which, dividend payouts will be more than 90%. IGB Corp and KrisAssets will dispose the two malls to IGB REIT for a consideration of rm4.61 billion of which rm1.21 billion will be in cash and the rest in shares. The disposals will be distributed to KrisAssets’ shareholders in rm2.43 cash per share and 5.24 IGB REIT shares for each KrisAssets share.

Once the disposal is completed and the proceeds distributed, KrisAssets will be liquidated and deregistered.

Post listing, IGB Corp’s stake will hold a direct 51% equity stake in IGB REIT, which will issue 670 million new units or 19.7% of its total share capital.

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meaning to say IGB REIT is a must buy!

and MORE BIG projects coming in...
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post Aug 9 2012, 11:33 AM

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SO KASSETS still worth to buy in? or just go for IPO?
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post Aug 9 2012, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(jeffreyng @ Aug 9 2012, 11:33 AM)
SO KASSETS still worth to buy in? or just go for IPO?
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I will rather buy IGB.

Each Kasset will give u 5.24 IGBReit.
Proposed return : RM2.43 per share + 5.24 IGB Reit
Price Today of stock 6653 RM8.99

Theoretical IGB price : RM1.25/share

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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Aug 9 2012, 11:41 AM)
I will rather buy IGB.

Each Kasset will give u 5.24 IGBReit.
Proposed return : RM2.43 per share + 5.24 IGB Reit
Price Today of stock 6653 RM8.99

Theoretical IGB price : RM1.25/share
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But IGB IPO - you may not get it.
Kasset - you are sure to get it if you are willing to pay for the current market price.
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post Aug 9 2012, 11:50 AM

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Why did IGB Corp dropped when KA rose so much?
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IGB corp drop because every1 buying KA mar. lol.
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any conclusion? BUY IPO? KA? IGB? tongue.gif
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QUOTE(GloryKnight @ Aug 9 2012, 11:52 AM)
IGB corp drop because every1 buying KA mar. lol.
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But they hold a substantial amount in KA and soon-to-be IGB REIT, they have also been buying back a lot of shares lately.
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Wise to stock in KA for that price 899? Even though it gives you back IGBreit; any clue IGBreit will be opened for public or priority with LA holders?
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QUOTE(Rich_Lim @ Aug 9 2012, 11:55 AM)
Wise to stock in KA for that price 899? Even though it gives you back IGBreit; any clue IGBreit will be opened for public or priority with LA holders?
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Ya, I don't think KA is good to put in now as the price is ady high....
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QUOTE(river.sand @ Aug 9 2012, 11:43 AM)
But IGB IPO - you may not get it.
Kasset - you are sure to get it if you are willing to pay for the current market price.
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price is already on the highest side. How high it can go further?
The higher the price, the more expensive your proposed IGBR will be. Why chase the RM2.43, when the end result is not favourable?

If you trust that IGB-R can be +20% in coming months, can always buy on LISTING day.

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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Aug 9 2012, 01:16 PM)
price is already on the highest side. How high it can go further?
The higher the price, the more expensive your proposed IGBR will be. Why chase the RM2.43, when the end result is not favourable?

If you trust that IGB-R can be +20% in coming months, can always buy on LISTING day.
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If listing open already 1.30..then how.....?...

Kassets RM9.00 also good entry....

But 2 days ago ..when i inform all the bro here ..."KASSET under IPO price...GRAP IT B4 TOO LATE ....no one bother me
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Nope Bro, not we dun bother you, is bcos we dun have bullet...Axtro also got IPO o...where got so much bullet?
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QUOTE(katesamsung @ Aug 9 2012, 03:47 PM)
If listing open already 1.30..then how.....?...

Kassets RM9.00 also good entry....

But 2 days ago ..when i inform all the bro here ..."KASSET under IPO price...GRAP IT B4 TOO LATE ....no one bother me
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even at 130, BUY if you have hope. See Pavi REIT, 0.88 > 1.30's

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QUOTE(wayne84 @ Aug 9 2012, 03:53 PM)
Nope Bro, not we dun bother you, is bcos we dun have bullet...Axtro also got IPO o...where got so much bullet?
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zamans98's strategy is always sell on the first day of listing brows.gif

But I am a long-term investor sweat.gif
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QUOTE(river.sand @ Aug 9 2012, 04:24 PM)
zamans98's strategy is always sell on the first day of listing  brows.gif

But I am a long-term investor  sweat.gif
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yes, correct strategy. There is a Caveat, when the IPO is gooding for long term, I will keep it, depending on the cashflow.
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i will buy IGB for few years to keep same like IHH =) altho ihh no divvy but igb as REITs will surely have. altho slow grow. but just put in a lil money shud be fine.
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QUOTE(GloryKnight @ Aug 9 2012, 04:55 PM)
i will buy IGB for few years to keep same like IHH =) altho ihh no divvy but igb as REITs will surely have. altho slow grow. but just put in a lil money shud be fine.
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KASSETS - RM 9.00 Liao - ROOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMM rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(katesamsung @ Aug 10 2012, 09:02 AM)
KASSETS - RM 9.00 Liao - ROOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMM  rclxms.gif
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I think of u when I saw an car advertisement with the words "ROOOMM" .. Haha
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I think of u when I saw an car advertisement with the words "ROOOMM" .. Haha
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Bro..Jus put a little spice out of the sentence..if not..very boring....
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so. IGB reit will higher than 1.25 per lot? Roooom... ==
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Malaysia Finance blog about IGB Reit.

http://www.malaysiafinance.blogspot.com/20...ext-biggie.html
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Got some good info about IGB Reit.

According to Henry Butcher, the valuation are as below:-

MidValley Megamall value - RM3, 440,000,000

Associated value of the assets in MidValley Megamall - RM1,582,000

The Gardens Mall value - RM1,160,000,000

The Gardens Mall associated with the value of assets - RM10,977,000

A total of - of RM4,612,559,000

The method of raising funds will be divided into two parts

1) The sale of 3,400,000,000 shares, priced at RM1.25 (3,400,000,000 x RM1.25 = of RM4, 250,000,000)

2) The loan fund-raising RM1,213,000,000

2.1) Fixed rate term facilities (Term Loan) - RM1, 200,000,000 (FRTF five-year loan can be extended for two years. 1st-5th fixed interest rate of 4.4%, 6th-7th year fixed interest rate of 5%)

2.2) Standby revolving credit facilities (Overdraft) - RM20, 000,000 (SRCF seven-year loan, floating interest rate of 0.7%)

(Information from page86)

Purchase Price = (RM3, 440,000,000 + of RM1, 160,000,000) / (1,718,951 sq + 817,053 sq.ft) of RM4, 600,000,000 / 2,536,004 = of RM1, 813.88/sq.

For readers not familiar with the Klang Valley, at RM1, 813.88/sq The price is reasonable, in fact very difficult to estimate. But luckily, the proposal provides other competitor for our reference.

Pavillion KL Mall - RM2, 390/sq.

Sungai Wang Plaza - RM1, 607/sq.

Starhill Gallery - RM1, 607/sq.

Sungai Wang Plaza - RM2, 115/sq.

Lot 10 - RM1, 561/sq.

Sunway Pyramid - RM1, 265/sq.

(Information from page A-10) [nitro page287】

the forecast according to the proposals of RM1.25 price buy IGB Reit

2012 Return rate - 5.1%; PE = 19.61

2013 Return rate - 5.37%; PE = 18.62

(Information from page 119)

About Midvalley Mall

2009 occupancy rate - 100 percent; renewal rate - 81.3% (89.6% of the rentable area)

2010 occupancy rate - 99.9%; renewal rate - 82.6% (92.8% leased area)

2011 occupancy rate - 100 percent; renewal rate - 83.8% (93.1% of the rentable area)

2012 to May, the occupancy rate - 99.8%

(Information from page 64 and 65)

The Gardens Mall

2009 occupancy rate - 96.7%; renewal rate - 37% (67.9% of the rentable area)

2010 occupancy rate - 98.2%; renewal rate - 78.2% (89.1% leased area)

2011 occupancy rate - 99.6%; renewal rate - 71.1% (88.9% of the rentable area)

2012 to May, the occupancy rate - 99.7%

(Information from the page 70 and 71)

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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Aug 10 2012, 03:47 PM)
Got some good info about IGB Reit.

According to Henry Butcher, the valuation are as below:-

MidValley Megamall value - RM3, 440,000,000

Associated value of the assets in MidValley Megamall - RM1,582,000

The Gardens Mall value - RM1,160,000,000

The Gardens Mall associated with the value of assets - RM10,977,000

A total of - of RM4,612,559,000

The method of raising funds will be divided into two parts

1) The sale of 3,400,000,000 shares, priced at RM1.25 (3,400,000,000 x RM1.25 = of RM4, 250,000,000)

2) The loan fund-raising RM1,213,000,000

2.1) Fixed rate term facilities (Term Loan) - RM1, 200,000,000 (FRTF five-year loan can be extended for two years. 1st-5th fixed interest rate of 4.4%, 6th-7th year fixed interest rate of 5%)

2.2) Standby revolving credit facilities (Overdraft) - RM20, 000,000 (SRCF seven-year loan, floating interest rate of 0.7%)

(Information from page86)

Purchase Price = (RM3, 440,000,000 + of RM1, 160,000,000) / (1,718,951 sq + 817,053 sq.ft) of RM4, 600,000,000 / 2,536,004 = of RM1, 813.88/sq.

For readers not familiar with the Klang Valley, at RM1, 813.88/sq The price is reasonable, in fact very difficult to estimate. But luckily, the proposal provides other competitor for our reference.

Pavillion KL Mall - RM2, 390/sq.

Sungai Wang Plaza - RM1, 607/sq.

Starhill Gallery - RM1, 607/sq.

Sungai Wang Plaza - RM2, 115/sq.

Lot 10 - RM1, 561/sq.

Sunway Pyramid - RM1, 265/sq.

(Information from page A-10) [nitro page287】

the forecast according to the proposals of RM1.25 price buy IGB Reit

2012 Return rate - 5.1%; PE = 19.61

2013 Return rate - 5.37%; PE = 18.62

(Information from page 119)

About Midvalley Mall

2009 occupancy rate - 100 percent; renewal rate - 81.3% (89.6% of the rentable area)

2010 occupancy rate - 99.9%; renewal rate - 82.6% (92.8% leased area)

2011 occupancy rate - 100 percent; renewal rate - 83.8% (93.1% of the rentable area)

2012 to May, the occupancy rate - 99.8%

(Information from page 64 and 65)

The Gardens Mall

2009 occupancy rate - 96.7%; renewal rate - 37% (67.9% of the rentable area)

2010 occupancy rate - 98.2%; renewal rate - 78.2% (89.1% leased area)

2011 occupancy rate - 99.6%; renewal rate - 71.1% (88.9% of the rentable area)

2012 to May, the occupancy rate - 99.7%

(Information from the page 70 and 71)
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Kasset is reversing.

Opportunity for those who missed the boat.

Malaysia Finance blog about IGB reit.
http://www.malaysiafinance.blogspot.com/20...ext-biggie.html

Oppurtunity for bro who havent bought yet...

GRAP IT B4 too late....NOW KASSETS 8.93

no need to play wheel of fortune.....

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IGB eyes being M'sia's biggest listed REIT

IGB Real Estate Investment Trust is targeting a market value of RM4.25 billion (US$1.4 billion) when it lists in Kuala Lumpur next month, making it Malaysia’s biggest-listed property trust.

The unit of Malaysian property developer IGB Corp. plans to offer 670 million new units to both individuals and institutions, according to a sales document posted on the Securities Commission’s website. IGB’s indicative price for individuals is RM1.25 apiece, at which the whole offering would raise RM837.5 million.

IGB REIT is joining a resurgence in initial public offerings after the benchmark FTSE Bursa Malaysia KLCI Index rose to a record last month. Palm oil producer Felda Global Ventures Holdings Bhd. raised US$3.3 billion when it listed in Kuala Lumpur in July, while hospital operator IHH Healthcare Bhd raised US$2 billion. Institutional demand for shares outstripped supply for both sales.

“IGB REIT’s large asset base will allow it to raise capital in larger amounts to fund future acquisitions, thus placing it in a better competitive position to capitalize on future investment opportunities,” the company said in its prospectus.

The trust owns two Kuala Lumpur shopping malls -- the Gardens Mall and Mid Valley Megamall -- which it acquired from IGB Corp. subsidiary KrisAssets Holdings Bhd. It will generate distributable income of RM108.7 million this year, which is expected to rise to RM230.5 million in 2013, according to the sales document.

Its offering comes after Pavilion Real Estate Investment Trust, another Kuala Lumpur shopping center owner, raised RM710 million in an IPO in November to become the country’s second-biggest property trust by market value. It overtook CapitaMalls Malaysia Trust, a unit of Singapore’s CapitaLand Ltd., which raised RM852 million through an IPO in 2010.

KLCC Property Holdings Bhd, the owner of Malaysia’s 88- story Petronas Twin Towers, said in June that it’s also considering a property trust to boost shareholder value.

Pricing for IGB REIT’s institutional offering will take place on Sept. 4 before the shares debut on Sept. 19, according to the prospectus. CIMB Group Holdings Bhd and Hong Leong Investment Bank Bhd are joint lead managers for the share sale, it said. - Bloomberg

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 10 2012, 04:55 PM)
IGB eyes being M'sia's biggest listed REIT

IGB Real Estate Investment Trust is targeting a market value of RM4.25 billion (US$1.4 billion) when it lists in Kuala Lumpur next month, making it Malaysia’s biggest-listed property trust.

The unit of Malaysian property developer IGB Corp. plans to offer 670 million new units to both individuals and institutions, according to a sales document posted on the Securities Commission’s website. IGB’s indicative price for individuals is RM1.25 apiece, at which the whole offering would raise RM837.5 million.



The trust owns two Kuala Lumpur shopping malls -- the Gardens Mall and Mid Valley Megamall -- which it acquired from IGB Corp. subsidiary KrisAssets Holdings Bhd. It will generate distributable income of RM108.7 million this year, which is expected to rise to RM230.5 million in 2013, according to the sales document.
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1) The sale of 3,400,000,000 shares, priced at RM1.25 (3,400,000,000 x RM1.25 = of RM4, 250,000,000)


i am presuming 3.4bil is the shares outstanding.

If that is so, and if distributable income is Rm230m in 2013, propsective yield 2013 will be

230/3400 = 6.76 sen p share

At Rm1.25 , yield will be 6.76/125 = 5.4%...is that good? hmm.gif

Net yield after tax will be even lower

Sounds quite low.......to me anyway smile.gif
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@prophetjul

I noticed that nowadays mall-reits are towards share appreciation, only followed by the Yield, which is more like a safety net or bonus, not like the olden days.

So "investor" tend to lower down their expectation on DPU, so long as > FD rate, they will be happy to take it.
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@prophetjul

I noticed that nowadays mall-reits are towards share appreciation, only followed by the Yield, which is more like a safety net or bonus, not like the olden days.

So "investor" tend to lower down their expectation on DPU, so long as > FD rate, they will be happy to take it.
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Focused on share appreciation = focused on share going up = "investors" = punters  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif 

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@prophetjul

I noticed that nowadays mall-reits are towards share appreciation, only followed by the Yield, which is more like a safety net or bonus, not like the olden days.

So "investor" tend to lower down their expectation on DPU, so long as > FD rate, they will be happy to take it.
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My understanding is that REITs have very low value appreciation unless their yields or NAV is grossly un noticed.

The share price will not appreciat much unless they can grow thier DPUs.

i gueess speculators will always speculate in anything...... biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 13 2012, 09:06 AM)
@prophetjul

I noticed that nowadays mall-reits are towards share appreciation, only followed by the Yield, which is more like a safety net or bonus, not like the olden days.

So "investor" tend to lower down their expectation on DPU, so long as > FD rate, they will be happy to take it.
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The reason is that, people are more positive about mall ability for rental revision aka rental can be raised easily with full occupancy and high traffic of the mall, so current pricing may as well take into account of future DPU increment.

Also those reit are way larger cap and more liquidity which many fund managers eager to have it as an passive income source as well (this is quite important for those dividend type of fund, insurance fund that run on saving plan etc), coupled with low interest rate environment across, any consistent yield that more than 5% with lower risk profile is highly demanded.


QUOTE(prophetjul @ Aug 13 2012, 09:30 AM)
My understanding is that REITs have very low value appreciation unless their yields or NAV is grossly un noticed.

The share price will not appreciat much unless they can grow thier DPUs.

i gueess speculators will always speculate in anything......    biggrin.gif
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The reason is simple, too many money around chasing on little thing.
A 4-5% yield is considered a high yield currently.

Yes, Reit pricing always should be following 2 front, yield and NAV.
Malls (those high traffic and fully occupied one), have good bargain power to raise its lease.
Also most malls lease highly on more short term one (correct if I am wrong) before rental revision coming in as compared office/industrial.

Many fund managers willing to settle on a 4-5% yield on their investment at current situation.

This post has been edited by cherroy: Aug 13 2012, 11:22 AM
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BUY KASSETS

NOW IS RM9.00....STILL BELOW IPO PRICE


>>>GRAP IT B4 TOO LATE
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 13 2012, 11:21 AM)
The reason is that, people are more positive about mall ability for rental revision aka rental can be raised easily with full occupancy and high traffic of the mall, so current pricing may as well take into account of future DPU increment.

Also those reit are way larger cap and more liquidity which many fund managers eager to have it as an passive income source as well (this is quite important for those dividend type of fund, insurance fund that run on saving plan etc), coupled with low interest rate environment across, any consistent yield that more than 5% with lower risk profile is highly demanded.
The reason is simple, too many money around chasing on little thing.
A 4-5% yield is considered a high yield currently.

Yes, Reit pricing always should be following 2 front, yield and NAV.
Malls (those high traffic and fully occupied one), have good bargain power to raise its lease.
Also most malls lease highly on more short term one (correct if I am wrong) before rental revision coming in as compared office/industrial.

Many fund managers willing to settle on a 4-5% yield on their investment at current situation.
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Good writeup on the fundamentals of REIT investing....still learning.

i am only investing in SReIts with yeilds of 8% and above..........but not in malls
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 13 2012, 09:06 AM)
@prophetjul

I noticed that nowadays mall-reits are towards share appreciation, only followed by the Yield, which is more like a safety net or bonus, not like the olden days.

So "investor" tend to lower down their expectation on DPU, so long as > FD rate, they will be happy to take it.
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TO ALL Bro,

Just share info that i have study

Based on indicative IPO offer price of RM1.25/ share,

Each Kassets share will receive 5.24 units of IGB Reits and approximately RM2.73 cash, which bring the total distribution value per Kassets share to RM9.30

Invest or not, up to u
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TO ALL Bro,

Just share info that i have study

Based on indicative IPO offer price of RM1.25/ share,

Each Kassets share will receive 5.24 units of IGB Reits and approximately RM2.73 cash, which bring the total distribution value per Kassets share to RM9.30

Invest or not, up to u
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AND you are asking them to pay for a further 13.7 cents per share with KASSEts at Rm10?

You know what a pumper is?
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AND you are asking them to pay for a further 13.7 cents per share with KASSEts at Rm10? 

You know what a pumper is?
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Sorry my mis...its rm9........but your are still pumpin
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Sorry my mis...its rm9........but your are still pumpin
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NVm La..i dun know what u talking.....

U r the one who talk like smart alec here..

I jus share the info to all bro here....Invest or not..up to u all....

If u dun think so..then dun invest..

Very fan...always meet this kind of ppl in the forum

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QUOTE(katesamsung @ Aug 13 2012, 12:12 PM)
NVm La..i dun know what u talking.....

U r the one who talk like smart alec here..

I jus share the info to all bro here....Invest or not..up to u all....

If u dun think so..then dun invest..

Very fan...always meet this kind of ppl in the forum
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thanks for the info... but is it confirm RM1.25... if RM1.10 rugi wooo... furthermore odd lots is headache... need to buy 5.24 so need to buy either 5lots or 50lots. betul tak? rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(katesamsung @ Aug 13 2012, 12:12 PM)
NVm La..i dun know what u talking.....

U r the one who talk like smart alec here..

I jus share the info to all bro here....Invest or not..up to u all....

If u dun think so..then dun invest..

Very fan...always meet this kind of ppl in the forum
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Let them be ... I support u..... They don't know how to do the magic calculation ...

1.25 IGB REIT vs 8.98 Kris , still Kris more cheap ............... Don't mislead by Par Price .....


Kris can get 5,240 Unit IGB REIT x RM 1.25 ( IPo Price ) + 2.43 Cash ( Special Div + Cap Repayemnt ) + 0.xx ( Extra Cap repayment ) = The below Scenario

1) If 1st day IGB REIT listed price = 1.25 , u bought at 8.98 , u lose nothing just breakven ,
2) If that 0.xx u get it means your IGB REIT cost will be 1.21 -1.15 or even lower , very hard lose
3) If 1st day IGB REIT litsed price = 1.30-1.35 , u bought at 8.98 , u made money ...... rooms

This week or next week will having annoucement for Kris entilement for IGB REIT , if i am not wrong , later want buy it at 9.00, sure no more chance !! Mostly at 9.00 above ......... Believe it or not up to to .....

Bro Kate , use your words . Room....... Room.... RooMMMMMMMMM !!!!!!!!! icon_idea.gif


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QUOTE(hmn @ Aug 13 2012, 12:34 PM)
thanks for the info... but is it confirm RM1.25... if RM1.10 rugi wooo... furthermore odd lots is headache... need to buy 5.24 so need to buy either 5lots or 50lots. betul tak? rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif
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1,000 Unit Kris get 5,240 Unit IGB REIT

Odd lot 40 Unit x 1.25 = RM50.00

RM50.00 / RM8980 = only 0.55%


Know investment ppl won't care this kind of minor issue

If really afraid this kind of Odd lot , Buy Kris at 5,000 Unit , 10,000 Unit , 15,000 Unit ...........

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Let them be ...    I support u.....  They don't know how to do the magic calculation ... 

1.25  IGB REIT vs 8.98 Kris , still Kris more cheap  ...............  Don't mislead by Par Price .....
Kris can get 5,240 Unit IGB REIT x RM 1.25 ( IPo Price ) + 2.43  Cash ( Special Div + Cap Repayemnt ) + 0.xx ( Extra Cap repayment )  =  The below Scenario

1) If 1st day IGB REIT listed price =  1.25  , u bought at 8.98 , u lose nothing just breakven ,
2) If that 0.xx u get it means your IGB REIT cost will be 1.21 -1.15 or even lower , very hard lose
3) If 1st day IGB REIT litsed price = 1.30-1.35 , u bought at 8.98 , u made money  ......  rooms 

This week or next week will having annoucement for Kris entilement for IGB REIT , if i am not wrong , later  want buy it at 9.00, sure no more chance !!  Mostly at 9.00 above  .........  Believe it or not up to to  .....

Bro Kate , use your words  .    Room.......  Room.... RooMMMMMMMMM  !!!!!!!!!      icon_idea.gif


Added on August 13, 2012, 1:00 pm
1,000 Unit Kris get 5,240 Unit IGB REIT

Odd lot 40 Unit x 1.25 = RM50.00

RM50.00 / RM8980 = only 0.55% 
Know investment ppl won't care this kind of minor issue

If really afraid this kind of Odd lot , Buy Kris at  5,000 Unit , 10,000 Unit , 15,000 Unit ...........
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Thanks for ur support.....

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QUOTE(flowking88 @ Aug 13 2012, 12:45 PM)
Let them be ...    I support u.....  They don't know how to do the magic calculation ... 

1.25  IGB REIT vs 8.98 Kris , still Kris more cheap  ...............  Don't mislead by Par Price .....
Kris can get 5,240 Unit IGB REIT x RM 1.25 ( IPo Price ) + 2.43  Cash ( Special Div + Cap Repayemnt ) + 0.xx ( Extra Cap repayment )  =  The below Scenario

1) If 1st day IGB REIT listed price =  1.25  , u bought at 8.98 , u lose nothing just breakven ,
2) If that 0.xx u get it means your IGB REIT cost will be 1.21 -1.15 or even lower , very hard lose
3) If 1st day IGB REIT litsed price = 1.30-1.35 , u bought at 8.98 , u made money  ......  rooms 

This week or next week will having annoucement for Kris entilement for IGB REIT , if i am not wrong , later  want buy it at 9.00, sure no more chance !!  Mostly at 9.00 above  .........  Believe it or not up to to  .....

Bro Kate , use your words  .    Room.......  Room.... RooMMMMMMMMM  !!!!!!!!!      icon_idea.gif


Added on August 13, 2012, 1:00 pm
1,000 Unit Kris get 5,240 Unit IGB REIT

Odd lot 40 Unit x 1.25 = RM50.00

RM50.00 / RM8980 = only 0.55% 
Know investment ppl won't care this kind of minor issue

If really afraid this kind of Odd lot , Buy Kris at  5,000 Unit , 10,000 Unit , 15,000 Unit ...........
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QUOTE(katesamsung @ Aug 10 2012, 09:02 AM)
KASSETS - RM 9.00 Liao - ROOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMM  rclxms.gif
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Since you are not keen to sell Kassets, but hold IGBreit for 3-6 months, whether Kassets Vroom or Vroom Vroom to whatever price, it makes no different. smile.gif

It is better off hoping IGBreit Vroom. laugh.gif
So it doesn't make sense to feel Vroom when Kassets Vroom to Rm9 or Rm9.50 if one doesn't keen to sell off Kassets.

Whether Kassets vroom to Rm10, or Rm11, it won't alter the performance of IGBreit later on when listing.

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 13 2012, 04:55 PM)
Since you are not keen to sell Kassets, but hold IGBreit for 3-6 months, whether Kassets Vroom or Vroom Vroom to whatever price, it makes no different.  smile.gif

It is better off hoping IGBreit Vroom.  laugh.gif
So it doesn't make sense to feel Vroom when Kassets Vroom to Rm9 or Rm9.50 if one doesn't keen to sell off Kassets.

Whether Kassets vroom to Rm10, or Rm11, it won't alter the performance of IGBreit later on when listing.
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From the "high frequency + low level content" posted by the "vroom vroom bro", i think 99% he has lots of Kassets to be sold before the IGBreit IPO. tongue.gif

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From the "high frequency + low level content" posted by the "vroom vroom bro", i think 99% he has lots of Kassets to be sold before the IGBreit IPO.  tongue.gif
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i did invest at KASSETS.. and i didnt sell any of them.....will keep for passive income for long term....Building my 15k passive income a month....

Mid Valley being the one of the hottest Mall in Malaysia....Even i think Paviilion also lose to Mid Valley in term of human traffic...


Publika...SS2 mall....1shamelin....u go n visit ...u know the different

Invest or not...up to u...


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QUOTE(yok70 @ Aug 13 2012, 05:14 PM)
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From the "high frequency + low level content" posted by the "vroom vroom bro", i think 99% he has lots of Kassets to be sold before the IGBreit IPO.  tongue.gif
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Very hard to share info at forum

When we share info about a stock...ask to invest......then ppl wil think we wan to sell to them

When dun share info, then will say ..stingy...this and that

Ok la....no more info about this KASSETS.....u all look for urself....



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QUOTE(katesamsung @ Aug 13 2012, 05:32 PM)
i did invest at KASSETS.. and i didnt sell any of them.....will keep for passive income for long term....Building my 15k passive income a month....

Mid Valley being the one of the hottest Mall in Malaysia....Even i think Paviilion also lose to Mid Valley in term of human traffic...
Publika...SS2 mall....1shamelin....u go n visit ...u know the different

Invest or not...up to u...


Added on August 13, 2012, 5:35 pm
Very hard to share info at forum

When we share info about a stock...ask to invest......then ppl wil think we wan to sell to them

When dun share info, then will say ..stingy...this and that

Ok la....no more info about this KASSETS.....u all look for urself....
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Bro Kate ,

Later they sure will regret not in at 8.90-9.00 , they stil not understand the lobang we said, let time prove it ( very soon - just need another 2 week or 1 mth ) ,

They still scare the price from 7.80 to 9.00 , they think high ....... tehy still think 9.00 is expensive , but 1.25 is cheap ..... rolleyes.gif

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regarding kasset, require more info.

1. 2.73 or 2.43 dividend plus capital repayment?
2. where and how do u know its rm1.25 IPO price?
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QUOTE(katesamsung @ Aug 13 2012, 05:32 PM)
i did invest at KASSETS.. and i didnt sell any of them.....will keep for passive income for long term....Building my 15k passive income a month....

Mid Valley being the one of the hottest Mall in Malaysia....Even i think Paviilion also lose to Mid Valley in term of human traffic...
Publika...SS2 mall....1shamelin....u go n visit ...u know the different

Invest or not...up to u...


Added on August 13, 2012, 5:35 pm
Very hard to share info at forum

When we share info about a stock...ask to invest......then ppl wil think we wan to sell to them

When dun share info, then will say ..stingy...this and that

Ok la....no more info about this KASSETS.....u all look for urself....
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Actually, in the forum, we do not ask people to invest in A or B.

We just share opinion, view, and info.
It is not right to ask anyone to invest a particular stock, even it is super cheap, no brainer price, or worth every penny of it, or the share is super duper cheap, and will make one become millionaire or billionaire afterwards.

Whatever info and opinion, we are indeed welcome with many thanks,
but not asking anyone to invest.
Whether want to invest or not, it is up to individual decision, preference.

Yes, at near 9.00 is about equivalent to IGBreit IPO pricing.
But it doesn't make sense to be vroom about Kassets market pricing, even it shoot to Rm10 or 15, if one has no intention to sell off Kassets.
As eventually all Kassets share will cease and one own the capital repayment cash + IGBreit.


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Bro Kate ,

Later they sure will regret not in at 8.90-9.00 , they stil not understand the lobang we said, let time prove it ( very soon - just need another 2 week or 1 mth )  ,

They still scare the price from 7.80  to  9.00  , they think high  .......    tehy still think 9.00 is expensive , but 1.25 is cheap  .....        rolleyes.gif
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It is not people don't understand can get IGBreit through Kassets, and how much its equivalent.
Nobody dispute the calculation and valuation of IGBreit at Rm1.25 vs Rm9 Kassets.

Just other people may not want to take the risk of it, or time risk of it. As from IPO listing + its capital repayment, it takes sometimes.
Yes, IGBreit highly may chalk up some premium when first day of listing (me also think highly will around RM1.3x), but there are still time risk in between.
Who knows what can happen in between the time, even if it is highly unlikely.

So people want to buy or not buy, it is up to individual preference.
There is nothing wrong, if one not willing to take the risk (that's why we see there are still constant seller in Kassets). Those don't want to wait, rather take cash now by selling Kassets, and don't want to wait for IGBreit + capital repayment.
While other see can squeeze a few cents or ten plus cents, by buying Kassets at RM9.00.





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QUOTE(flowking88 @ Aug 13 2012, 12:45 PM)
Let them be ...     I support u.....  They don't know how to do the magic calculation ... 

1.25  IGB REIT vs 8.98 Kris , still Kris more cheap  ...............  Don't mislead by Par Price .....
Kris can get 5,240 Unit IGB REIT x RM 1.25 ( IPo Price ) + 2.43  Cash ( Special Div + Cap Repayemnt ) + 0.xx ( Extra Cap repayment ) =  The below Scenario

1) If 1st day IGB REIT listed price =  1.25  , u bought at 8.98 , u lose nothing just breakven ,
2) If that 0.xx u get it means your IGB REIT cost will be 1.21 -1.15 or even lower , very hard lose
3) If 1st day IGB REIT litsed price = 1.30-1.35 , u bought at 8.98 , u made money  ......  rooms 

This week or next week will having annoucement for Kris entilement for IGB REIT , if i am not wrong , later  want buy it at 9.00, sure no more chance !!  Mostly at 9.00 above  .........  Believe it or not up to to  .....

Bro Kate , use your words  .    Room.......  Room.... RooMMMMMMMMM  !!!!!!!!!       icon_idea.gif

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There is no extra cap repayment in the proposal of disposal of Midvalley and subsequent delisting of Kassets, as far as I remembered.

If buy at Rm9.00, total cost including commission is about Rm9.05 - 2.43 / 5240 = Rm1.263, so one needs to sell above Rm1.28 (as need to deduct the sell commission side as well) to make a profit.
if at Rm9.05 means need to sell above 1.29.

Also capital repayment take considerable longer time to materialise generally which already stated expectation of completion of capital repayment may be around March 2013.
So half + year to go for the Rm2.43, which if one sell now on Kassets can get the cash after T+3, and earn a 1.x% from the FD interest, which is about RM0.03. laugh.gif


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regarding kasset, require more info.

1. 2.73 or 2.43 dividend plus capital repayment?
2. where and how do u know its rm1.25 IPO price?
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1. 2.43
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Who say no extra cap repayemnt 0.xx ?

1st Tips - 2.43 based on 31-12-2011
2nd tips - Go read circular to saherholder dd 5/6/2012 , Salient Terms of The Drafts SPA

Read carefully before u made any comment .

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QUOTE(katesamsung @ Aug 13 2012, 05:32 PM)
i did invest at KASSETS.. and i didnt sell any of them.....will keep for passive income for long term....Building my 15k passive income a month....

Mid Valley being the one of the hottest Mall in Malaysia....Even i think Paviilion also lose to Mid Valley in term of human traffic...
Publika...SS2 mall....1shamelin....u go n visit ...u know the different

Invest or not...up to u...


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Very hard to share info at forum

When we share info about a stock...ask to invest......then ppl wil think we wan to sell to them

When dun share info, then will say ..stingy...this and that

Ok la....no more info about this KASSETS.....u all look for urself....
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Who say no extra cap repayemnt  0.xx  ?

1st Tips  - 2.43 based on 31-12-2011
2nd tips - Go read circular to saherholder dd 5/6/2012 , Salient Terms of The Drafts SPA

Read carefully before u made any comment .
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That's why I said as far as I remembered, smile.gif if you have the info, please post the details, many thanks in the first place, and the figure instead of 0.xx

Everything is clear cut, and has a figure (be it projected or estimated) under the proposal, they won't put Rm0.xx figure in the proposal. laugh.gif

One thing one must remember, capital repayment won't be a speedy process. So can I make this comment? biggrin.gif
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i would rather try luck with the IPO or buy on the listing day by paying more. Reasons:
- As mentioned by Cherroy, cap rep did take sometimes, so capital will be tied up for sometimes
- Buying 1K kassets will result in odd lot of IGB reit (I can't afford to buy more to avoid the odd lot.... =p)
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QUOTE(fergie1100 @ Aug 14 2012, 10:02 AM)
i would rather try luck with the IPO or buy on the listing day by paying more. Reasons:
- As mentioned by Cherroy, cap rep did take sometimes, so capital will be tied up for sometimes
- Buying 1K kassets will result in odd lot of IGB reit (I can't afford to buy more to avoid the odd lot.... =p)
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paying more? means if the opening price is 1.25 then u queue at 1.28? biggrin.gif
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paying more? means if the opening price is 1.25 then u queue at 1.28?  biggrin.gif
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haha you wish. not sure who is gonna sell at only a 3 sen premium .IPOs are hot property now. A lot of the big ones open above listing price. dont see how this would be any different.
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QUOTE(katesamsung @ Aug 13 2012, 11:44 AM)
TO ALL Bro,

Just share info that i have study

Based on indicative IPO offer price of RM1.25/ share,

Each Kassets share will receive 5.24 units of IGB Reits and approximately RM2.73 cash, which bring the total distribution value per Kassets share to RM9.30

Invest or not, up to u
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Sorry guys..newbie here...got a question I would like to ask..based on what I read it means tht if we buy Kasset share now, we will be eligible for 5.24 units of IGB automatically when it is released? So tht means on top of the Kasset share I bought, I would have another extra 5 units of IGB REIT...did I interpret it correctly? Thx in advance notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(aidan2306 @ Aug 14 2012, 11:38 AM)
Sorry guys..newbie here...got a question I would like to ask..based on what I read it means tht if we buy Kasset share now, we will be eligible for 5.24 units of IGB automatically when it is released? So tht means on top of the Kasset share I bought, I would have another extra 5 units of IGB REIT...did I interpret it correctly? Thx in advance  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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dont confused IGB with IGB reit my fren biggrin.gif
buy kasset, u get IGB reit + cap repay.... then kasset delist


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QUOTE(kingzzfed @ Aug 14 2012, 11:07 AM)
paying more? means if the opening price is 1.25 then u queue at 1.28?  biggrin.gif
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well, since most of the IPOs nowadays are kinda hot..... i guess u'll need to pay more than the IPO price when it's listed...
unless something else happen... drool.gif

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well, since most of the IPOs nowadays are kinda hot..... i guess u'll need to pay more than the IPO price when it's listed...
unless something else happen...  drool.gif
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we dont know what will happened on the listing day biggrin.gif

but anyway i wont mind paying a little more to get this REIT since i treat it as a fixed income instrument.

capital appreciation + dividend payout semi-annually / quarterly drool.gif kinda rewarding biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 14 2012, 09:47 AM)
That's why I said as far as I remembered,  smile.gif  if you have the info, please post the details, many thanks in the first place, and the figure instead of 0.xx

Everything is clear cut, and has a figure (be it projected or estimated) under the proposal, they won't put Rm0.xx figure in the proposal.  laugh.gif

One thing one must remember, capital repayment won't be a speedy process. So can I make this comment?  biggrin.gif
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Go read it yourself , i already give u so many clues , i don't have obligation give so details .

wat i can says is stuck 2.43 also worth , coz that 0.xx sure worth for your to stuck 6 mth

Believe or not up to u, later Kris forthcoming announcement will prove my statement .

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QUOTE(flowking88 @ Aug 14 2012, 12:38 PM)
Go read it yourself , i already give u so many clues , i don't have obligation give so details .

wat i can says is stuck 2.43 also worth  , coz that 0.xx sure worth for your to stuck 6 mth 

Believe or not up to u, later Kris forthcoming announcement will prove my statement .
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Please help us, we just want the info, and somebody pin-point the info only, if one already came across. You know the proposal can be lengthy and some may not well verse with corporate exercise method/wording.
We just want to know what is the amount 0.xx, where it comes from, instead of 0.xx.

Tell good about the stock and (even ask to buy the stock), then tell us to find ourself? cry.gif cry.gif

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QUOTE(praveenmarkandu @ Aug 14 2012, 11:13 AM)
haha you wish. not sure who is gonna sell at only a 3 sen premium .IPOs are hot property now. A lot of the big ones open above listing price. dont see how this would be any different.
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Reit is not ordinary stock, its upside is always capped by its potential yield and NAV.

You won't see a reit IPO at Rm1.25, but open at RM2.00. Very unlikely to happen.


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paying more? means if the opening price is 1.25 then u queue at 1.28?  biggrin.gif
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I won't surprise it opens at Rm1.3x.

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Average up my Kasset

Current cost for IGB Reit is RM1.10 AKA 6% yield

Still a comfortable level.
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QUOTE(flowking88 @ Aug 14 2012, 12:38 PM)
Go read it yourself , i already give u so many clues , i don't have obligation give so details .

wat i can says is stuck 2.43 also worth  , coz that 0.xx sure worth for your to stuck 6 mth 

Believe or not up to u, later Kris forthcoming announcement will prove my statement .
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you ARE katesamsung. this, i am....98% sure. tongue.gif
every time someone asked a question, you(or he) never able to answer. just able to ask people to buy buy buy only. ie the wrong info on cash repayment. You(or he) just ignore and continue to spam. biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 14 2012, 03:12 PM)
Average up my Kasset

Current cost for IGB Reit is RM1.10 AKA 6% yield

Still a comfortable level.
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It begins to drop today....pretty much as expected. some people won't want 30% of their cash being locked up for 6 months before getting it back by the cash repayment. biggrin.gif
nice timing you got there to average up. thumbup.gif I started too early, bought some at higher price close to 8.98.
still got a bit more to accumulate before rounding up without odd lots. thumbup.gif

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lol creating a duplicate a/c & talk among himself? tongue.gif

Moderator definitely able to know whether he is a dup or not brows.gif

By the way, Kasset retreat to 8.78, aka RM1.21, a slight premium if compare to IPO.
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 14 2012, 04:05 PM)
lol creating a duplicate a/c & talk among himself? tongue.gif

Moderator definitely able to know whether he is a dup or not brows.gif

By the way, Kasset retreat to 8.78, aka RM1.21, a slight premium if compare to IPO.
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no, moderator also cannot tell. because they can use different IP (creating and accessing through different internet host).
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Some listing info of IGB:

Get your bullet ready for those who want to buy from IPO.

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上市时间表

8月23号——公开让公众申请IPO

8月28号——公开让机构申请IPO

8月30号——截止公众申请IPO

9月4号——截止机构申请IPO

9月4号——确定IPO售价(公众申请价RM1.25,机构申请价将根据投标价。如果机构申请价低于公众申请价RM1.25,那么就会根据机构申请价定价,差异将会回退给公众。最高价将不会超过RM1.25)

9月5号——公众申请抽签日

9月18号——转入股票到成功申请者户口

9月19号——大马主版交易所上市

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QUOTE(flowking88 @ Aug 14 2012, 12:38 PM)
Go read it yourself , i already give u so many clues , i don't have obligation give so details .

wat i can says is stuck 2.43 also worth  , coz that 0.xx sure worth for your to stuck 6 mth 

Believe or not up to u, later Kris forthcoming announcement will prove my statement .
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Ya i totally agree . to get IGB REITS better buy KASSETS.. slim chance with IPO


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QUOTE(yok70 @ Aug 14 2012, 04:01 PM)
you ARE katesamsung. this, i am....98% sure.  tongue.gif
every time someone asked a question, you(or he) never able to answer. just able to ask people to buy buy buy only. ie the wrong info on cash repayment. You(or he) just ignore and continue to spam.  biggrin.gif


Added on August 14, 2012, 4:03 pm

It begins to drop today....pretty much as expected. some people won't want 30% of their cash being locked up for 6 months before getting it back by the cash repayment.  biggrin.gif
nice timing you got there to average up.  thumbup.gif  I started too early, bought some at higher price close to 8.98.
still got a bit more to accumulate before rounding up without odd lots.  thumbup.gif
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i malas to count.. can u let me know.. how many kassets to buy to get no odd lots for IGB REITS?


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[quote=yok70,Aug 14 2012, 04:01 PM]
you ARE katesamsung. this, i am....98% sure. tongue.gif
every time someone asked a question, you(or he) never able to answer. just able to ask people to buy buy buy only. ie the wrong info on cash repayment. You(or he) just ignore and continue to spam. biggrin.gif

i think u have gone nuts....Simply say...I'm no need to do this kind of things.....

I think u have done it b4 since u so good being accuse ppl laugh.gif


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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 14 2012, 03:12 PM)
Average up my Kasset

Current cost for IGB Reit is RM1.10 AKA 6% yield

Still a comfortable level.
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brrrrrrrr..... U & moppy r the lucky one..... next time pm me 1st on such thing ya?.....lol
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i malas to count.. can u let me know.. how many kassets to buy to get no odd lots for IGB REITS?
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 13 2012, 09:45 PM)
There is no extra cap repayment in the proposal of disposal of Midvalley and subsequent delisting of Kassets, as far as I remembered.

If buy at Rm9.00, total cost including commission is about Rm9.05 - 2.43 / 5240 = Rm1.263, so one needs to sell above Rm1.28 (as need to deduct the sell commission side as well) to make a profit.
if at Rm9.05 means need to sell above 1.29.

Also capital repayment take considerable longer time to materialise generally which already stated expectation of completion of capital repayment may be around March 2013.
So half + year to go for the Rm2.43, which if one sell now on Kassets can get the cash after T+3, and earn a 1.x% from the FD interest, which is about RM0.03.  laugh.gif


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Bro cherroy, I thought I missed the kasssets/igbreits boat since the news about igbreits to be listed at RM1.25. But after going through the proposal over the weekends, I arrived at the same 'valuation' as some 'promoters' (jk) here. biggrin.gif The proposal in June (or earlier?) was done based on the assumption that the igbreits would be ipo'ed at RM1.00. Now that they announced the ipo price could be as much as RM1.25, what would KASSET do about the extra 670mil*RM0.25 if not giving back to shareholders? Did I miss anything?
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[quote=katesamsung,Aug 14 2012, 04:18 PM]
[quote=yok70,Aug 14 2012, 04:01 PM]
you ARE katesamsung. this, i am....98% sure. tongue.gif
every time someone asked a question, you(or he) never able to answer. just able to ask people to buy buy buy only. ie the wrong info on cash repayment. You(or he) just ignore and continue to spam. biggrin.gif

i think u have gone nuts....Simply say...I'm no need to do this kind of things.....

I think u have done it b4 since u so good being accuse ppl laugh.gif
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come bro, i support u too.
bcs i know who is "flowking88“, i can 100% sure is not u.

hope later dun have ppl said i am katesamsung or flowking88 liao


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QUOTE(iamsobloodysick @ Aug 14 2012, 11:43 PM)
Bro cherroy, I thought I missed the kasssets/igbreits boat since the news about igbreits to be listed at RM1.25. But after going through the proposal over the weekends, I arrived at the same 'valuation' as some 'promoters' (jk) here. biggrin.gif The proposal in June (or earlier?) was done based on the assumption that the igbreits would be ipo'ed at RM1.00. Now that they announced the ipo price could be as much as RM1.25, what would KASSET do about the extra 670mil*RM0.25 if not giving back to shareholders? Did I miss anything?
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Yes, thank you for the info. notworthy.gif
I am searching for this answer, I am so down (feel so lonely being left out, tell me to find myself cry.gif ) after people tell me to find my own after talk good about the stock.

So we can count how much roughly extra that one would get instead of RM0.xx (which left me in the dark), roughly 160 million divided by the Kassets shares after settlement of liabilities.

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come bro, i support u too.

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err... this is investment issue, why need to support or not support? rclxub.gif

We appreciate info shared, or view posted or even opinion from different angle.

We always welcomed any forumers posted their view, and appreciated any helpful posts.
So make it a good forum to read on, instead need to become a camp of supporter or not, there is never need to do so.
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who's planning to apply?
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who's planning to apply?
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i think i'll try luck.... hmmm....
can apply tru maybank2u o pbbank e-share rite? i heard it's faster than apply tru ATM, wic u need to get bank draft & so
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who's planning to apply?
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Depends on individual, how much you want this IGB Reit.

A) I MUST HAVE IT: Buy kasset now.(RM1.21)
B) I Play Tikam Try Luck: IPO (RM1.25)
C) I Buy on Listing Day: Probably at higher premium (RM1.3X)

You can also mix them up.
Buy Kasset now, try luck on IPO, buy again on listing day. Options! biggrin.gif
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Will try for this during IPO. 8 lots. If I dont get (which seems to be the case all the time) I will go for less on listing day.
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 15 2012, 10:46 AM)
Depends on individual, how much you want this IGB Reit.

A) I MUST HAVE IT: Buy kasset now.(RM1.21)
B) I Play Tikam Try Luck: IPO (RM1.25)
C) I Buy on Listing Day: Probably at higher premium (RM1.3X)

You can also mix them up.
Buy Kasset now, try luck on IPO, buy again on listing day. Options! biggrin.gif
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D) Why bother at all? Is it 'cheap' at RM1.2?
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Ah, that is ONE Option, too. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 15 2012, 10:46 AM)
Depends on individual, how much you want this IGB Reit.

A) I MUST HAVE IT: Buy kasset now.(RM1.21)
B) I Play Tikam Try Luck: IPO (RM1.25)
C) I Buy on Listing Day: Probably at higher premium (RM1.3X)

You can also mix them up.
Buy Kasset now, try luck on IPO, buy again on listing day. Options! biggrin.gif
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Personally I take C)
No hassle, don't need to lock up some money for 6 months plus and potential odd lot (Personally don't like odd lot, make CDS statement not tidy, want figure at the back all 000 one. biggrin.gif )
IPO? don't know can get or not.

C) Straight forwards, if IGBreit future is good, a few cents expensive seems trivia over the long term (5-10 years).
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Buy IPO offer or open market.
Your locked your fund via KAASSET, whereby its better to roll in applying other iPO while waiting for IGB_R to be issued.
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When is the IPO open for submission ?
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 15 2012, 12:51 PM)
Personally I take C)
No hassle, don't need to lock up some money for 6 months plus and potential odd lot (Personally don't like odd lot, make CDS statement not tidy, want figure at the back all 000 one.  biggrin.gif )
IPO? don't know can get or not.

C) Straight forwards, if IGBreit future is good, a few cents expensive seems trivia over the long term (5-10 years).
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I remember that it mentioned in 1 of the few months earlier announcement that there will be no odd lots from KASSETS into IGB REIT.

It will be round down (e.g. 4444 shares will only get you 44 lots or 8888 shares will be 88 lots but not 89 lots).
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QUOTE(H86 @ Aug 15 2012, 04:23 PM)
I remember that it mentioned in 1 of the few months earlier announcement that there will be no odd lots from KASSETS into IGB REIT.

It will be round down (e.g. 4444 shares will only get you 44 lots or 8888 shares will be 88 lots but not 89 lots).
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I read that as well, if am not mistaken, for every 1000 shares of Kasset, you'll get 5250 units (not 5240 units).
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I read that as well, if am not mistaken, for every 1000 shares of Kasset, you'll get 5250 units (not 5240 units).
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5250

50 shares is still an odd lot for tradable min amount.

If 5200 or 5300 then no odd lot.
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5250

50 shares is still an odd lot for tradable min amount.

If 5200 or 5300 then no odd lot.
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You can buy 4000 shares of Kasset

5250 x 4 = 21,000

Ta-da, no odd lots. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 15 2012, 04:32 PM)
You can buy 4000 shares of Kasset

5250 x 4 = 21,000

Ta-da, no odd lots. laugh.gif
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4000 shares not cheap with current price.. lol.

There will be no odd lots for IGB REIT because every KASSETS holder will only get round down lots. 1000 shares of KASSETS let say getting 5240 or 5250 shares in IGB REIT, the actual shares received is only 52 lots.

If it is 5.25 times, then can avoid wasting shares by buying 4000 KASSETS shares.

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4000 shares not cheap with current price.. lol.

There will be no odd lots for IGB REIT because every KASSETS holder will only get round down lots. 1000 shares of KASSETS let say getting 5240 or 5250 shares in IGB REIT, the actual shares received is only 52 lots.

If it is 5.25 times, then can avoid wasting shares by buying 4000 KASSETS shares.
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can i know where u get the info that (will round up to '00 shares) from?

because i dnt want to wasting shares,but i dnt know is 5240 or 5250 cry.gif

even if buy 4000 if 5240 that will wasting 60 share too if round up rclxub.gif

pls help.......

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Hi,sifu icon_question.gif

can i know where u get the info that (will round up to '00 shares) from?

because i dnt want to wasting shares,but i dnt know is 5240 or 5250 cry.gif

even if buy 4000 if 5240 that will wasting 60 share too if round up rclxub.gif

pls help.......

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The information of 5240 or 5250 was already known few months ago. I have already forgotten it by myself. You can try to search on the thread few months ago and see what should the number be.

Just to correct on your words. It is "round down" but not "round up". In school, we studied round up in mathematics but not round down.
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QUOTE(H86 @ Aug 15 2012, 06:10 PM)
The information of 5240 or 5250 was already known few months ago. I have already forgotten it by myself. You can try to search on the thread few months ago and see what should the number be.

Just to correct on your words. It is "round down" but not "round up". In school, we studied round up in mathematics but not round down.
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paiseh for my english laugh.gif

but i just checked the circular

i still cannot find about the (round down) and about the 5250




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paiseh for my english laugh.gif

but i just checked the circular

i still cannot find about the (round down) and about the 5250
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http://krisassets.com/bursa/2012/110512.pdf

Look at page 9 in this pdf file and you should be able to see it.
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http://krisassets.com/bursa/2012/110512.pdf

Look at page 9 in this pdf file and you should be able to see it.
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but base on the guide,it will rounded down to the nearest Distribution Units based on their shareholdings.

but does this mean will round down from 5240-5200?(1000share) hmm.gif

or some odd lot guy 5245.24-5240?(1001share) just example hmm.gif

but base on the last official circular i post

(see Number of Distribution unit) is 5240,did not round down blink.gif


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THANK YOU TO H86 BROTHER notworthy.gif

but base on the guide,it will rounded down to the nearest Distribution Units based on their shareholdings.

but does this mean will round down from 5240-5200?(1000share) hmm.gif

or some odd lot guy 5245.24-5240?(1001share) just example hmm.gif

but base on the last official circular i post

(see Number of Distribution unit) is 5240,did not round down blink.gif
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I don't think that it has changed but it could be lazy to write anymore or you did not see it in the announcement.

I have checked what it mean by round down since few months ago (it was a new term for me because i have never learned "round down" from primary school until university although i studied math related degree in university). It seems that "round down" means let say you have 2000 KASSETS shares, then 2000 x 5.24 = 10480 shares but it become 104 lots after round down to nearest lot.

Of course that i could be wrong because it is just my own understanding based on the words at there.

(It could be as you said 5245.24 shares become 5245 shares too. No one really knows exactly what english words means. lol)

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I don't think that it has changed but it could be lazy to write anymore or you did not see it in the announcement.

I have checked what it mean by round down since few months ago (it was a new term for me because i have never learned "round down" from primary school until university although i studied math related degree in university). It seems that "round down" means let say you have 2000 KASSETS shares, then 2000 x 5.24 = 10480 shares but it become 104 lots after round down to nearest lot.

Of course that i could be wrong because it is just my own understanding based on the words at there.

(It could be as you said 5245.24 shares become 5245 shares too. No one really knows exactly what english words means. lol)
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The pdf statement said, there is no fraction of shares, and will be round down.

From my shallow understanding, means that there will be no 5245.24 shares, so it will be round down to 5245.

Remember there are odd lot Kassets shareholders as well, some may hold 110 shares, which in turn they entitle 110 x 5.24 =576.4 IGBreit shares, so in this situation it is round down to 576 shares.

There is never a statement said, no odd lot (the statement put fraction of share). Odd lot arised because of market min standard is 100 shares, which is never being concerned in the proposal, correct me if I am wrong.
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Oh boy! So still we are all uncertain of whether it's 5240 or 5250! cry.gif
I don't like odd lots lah! Can somebody who very sure tell me how to avoid it? notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif

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QUOTE(yok70 @ Aug 16 2012, 01:59 AM)
Oh boy! So still we are all uncertain of whether it's 5240 or 5250!  cry.gif
I don't like odd lots lah! Can somebody who very sure tell me how to avoid it?  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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YES.. HELP .. i need to know how avoid the odd lot too....
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Aug 16 2012, 01:59 AM)
Oh boy! So still we are all uncertain of whether it's 5240 or 5250!  cry.gif
I don't like odd lots lah! Can somebody who very sure tell me how to avoid it?  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif  notworthy.gif
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lol. The easiest way to avoid odd lots chance is to buy 100 lots of KASSETS shares then there will be no odd lots. Should be 5240 lah. The pdf written 5240.

No people like odd lots but i do not have $$ to buy 100 lots KASSETS shares too sad.gif.

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If i may, its in the ENGLish.......

iT says "the distribution of 2730 Distribution units......"

and "KA will not distribute fraction of a Distribution unit"

A unit is a WHOLE entity....

the key word is FRACTION....FRAction means a part or portion of a Unit.

Therefore if you get 1234.7, its rounded DOWN to 1234 units.

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If i may, its in the ENGLish.......

iT says "the distribution of 2730 Distribution units......"

and "KA will not distribute fraction of a Distribution unit"

A unit is a WHOLE entity....

the key word is FRACTION....FRAction means a part or portion of a Unit.

Therefore if you get 1234.7, its rounded DOWN to 1234 units.

You are Welcomed..........    biggrin.gif
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Your english words did not solve the mystery as well.


It maybe a unit of share (1234.7 shares become 1234 shares)

or

a unit lot of share (1234.7 lots becomes 1234 lots).
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Your english words did not solve the mystery as well.
It maybe a unit of share (1234.7 shares become 1234 shares)

or

a unit lot of share (1234.7 lots becomes 1234 lots).
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A Unit is a unit....theres no unit LOT there......ONE is a unit biggrin.gif

Half and quarter is NOT a unit

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hi guys, been reading the discussion with interest, but still a newbie. what is the entitlement date for the conversion of KASSET to IGB REIT? is it automatic?
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i think soon will announce entitlement details.
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QUOTE(H86 @ Aug 16 2012, 08:22 AM)
Your english words did not solve the mystery as well.
It maybe a unit of share (1234.7 shares become 1234 shares)

or

a unit lot of share (1234.7 lots becomes 1234 lots).
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Corporate exercise generally do not consider it as lot (100 shares), they only concern on how many shares.
As odd lot shareholding (not in multiple 100 shares) is very common out there.


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hi guys, been reading the discussion with interest, but still a newbie. what is the entitlement date for the conversion of KASSET to IGB REIT? is it automatic?
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There is no conversion of Kassets into IGBreit.

The actual scenario is if you owned Kassets, they give you IGBreit shares.

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^ ya rite...... odd lot is never an issue to them..... only they'll disregard the fractional shares....
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will have ex date for Kassets holder to get IGBREIT.
bcs need ex that 5240 units
then kassets price will ex till 2.43 too.
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hi bro,

just wanna ask u regarding the kassets.

from what i understand

its is for every 1000 shares they will give

share value of rm5240 (assuming the price is 1.00)
special dividend 29.20
capital repayment 2402.74

so now price for kasset it around 8.95*1000=8950

so assuming share price of 1.25.

5240/1.25=4192 share + 2431.94

so remaining will be kasset ? rm 1.28?

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QUOTE(chianping @ Aug 16 2012, 10:22 AM)
hi bro,

just wanna ask u regarding the kassets.

from what i understand

its is for every 1000 shares they will give

share value of rm5240 (assuming the price is 1.00)
special dividend 29.20
capital repayment 2402.74

so now price for kasset it around 8.95*1000=8950

so assuming share price of 1.25.

5240/1.25=4192 share + 2431.94

so remaining will be kasset ? rm 1.28?
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Kassets will be delisted when all the exercise completed, (IGBreit + special dividend + capital repayment)

You should assume IGBreit worth RM1.25, not Rm1.00 as its IPO indicate price is Rm1.25.


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Kassets will be delisted when all the exercise completed, (IGBreit + special dividend + capital repayment)

You should assume IGBreit worth RM1.25, not Rm1.00 as its IPO indicate price is Rm1.25.
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so to be safe

it mean

for every 1000 shares they will give 5240 shares and not value of RM5240

1000 shares of kassets give out 5240 shares of igb reits and cash considertaion of 2431.94?
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QUOTE(chianping @ Aug 16 2012, 10:31 AM)
so to be safe

it mean

for every 1000 shares they will give 5240 shares and not value of RM5240

1000 shares of kassets give out 5240 shares of igb reits and cash considertaion of 2431.94?
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Yes, every Kassets, they give you 5240 IGBreit. Not value at Rm5240, or whatever value amount.

Then if everything goes smoothly, there will be capital repayment (which is expected to be around March 2013).

The 2431.94 calculation is incorrect.

Summarise, you own Kasset, you will be given
- 5240 IGBreit
- Capital repayment + special dividend which worth around RM2.43 + little bit extra(I stand for corrected in this). from the proceed of selling IGBreit at RM1.25, instead of Rm1.00

And Kassets will be delisted.
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 16 2012, 10:53 AM)
Yes, every Kassets, they give you 5240 IGBreit. Not value at Rm5240, or whatever value amount.

Then if everything goes smoothly, there will be capital repayment (which is expected to be around March 2013).

The 2431.94 calculation is incorrect.

Summarise, you own Kasset, you will be given
- 5240 IGBreit
- Capital repayment + special dividend which worth around RM2.43 + little bit extra(I stand for corrected in this).  from the proceed of selling IGBreit at RM1.25, instead of Rm1.00

And Kassets will be delisted.
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Rugi lor keep KA and get Capital Repayment in 6+ months.

Better option is (a) public IPO (b) buy during listing.

Simple, headache free.
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 16 2012, 10:53 AM)
Yes, every Kassets, they give you 5240 IGBreit. Not value at Rm5240, or whatever value amount.

Then if everything goes smoothly, there will be capital repayment (which is expected to be around March 2013).

The 2431.94 calculation is incorrect.

Summarise, you own Kasset, you will be given
- 5240 IGBreit
- Capital repayment + special dividend which worth around RM2.43 + little bit extra(I stand for corrected in this).  from the proceed of selling IGBreit at RM1.25, instead of Rm1.00

And Kassets will be delisted.
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Thanks to cherroy notworthy.gif

by the way

Thanks to prophetjul for FRACTION view notworthy.gif

Thanks to H86 taking your time to debat on my question notworthy.gif

so now what we can do is buy as much share as we want to merge our need and waiting for the distribution whistling.gif

another info for all forumer......

as cherroy say [little bit extra] should be around 4-5sen base on my calculate.(that will be the interest from rest of cash that not yet distribution to share holder(until march)+the rest money that left at the company)

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A summarize of IGB Reit instead of going thru the 442 pages on the prospectus:

http://kclau.com/investment/igb-reit/
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 16 2012, 10:53 AM)
Yes, every Kassets, they give you 5240 IGBreit. Not value at Rm5240, or whatever value amount.

Then if everything goes smoothly, there will be capital repayment (which is expected to be around March 2013).

The 2431.94 calculation is incorrect.

Summarise, you own Kasset, you will be given
- 5240 IGBreit
- Capital repayment + special dividend which worth around RM2.43 + little bit extra(I stand for corrected in this).  from the proceed of selling IGBreit at RM1.25, instead of Rm1.00

And Kassets will be delisted.
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Little Bit extra = 0.xx ( won't over 1.00 ) , later a lot ppl wil be suprise on this figures , so now 8.95 -9.00 stil a best price to choose .

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this statement
"Income distribution (dividend)
100 percent taxable income distribution to investors until 31 Dec 2013."

mean after 2013, it will not be 100% payout but minumum is 90%, rite?
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KASSETS Above RM9.00 again

invest or not ..up to u

ROOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM !



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KASSETS Above RM9.00 again

invest or not ..up to u

ROOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM !
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I am still scratching my head, why people so happy and vroom about Kasset going up to RM9.00 or Rm10.00 when one is not keen to sell off the Kassets shares. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 16 2012, 04:41 PM)
I am still scratching my head, why people so happy and vroom about Kasset going up to RM9.00 or Rm10.00 when one is not keen to sell off the Kassets shares.  biggrin.gif
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Good question.

I have the intention to sell Kasset at RM9.30 or more (aka IGB RM1.31 or more)

Depends on how crazy those ppl are helping to push up biggrin.gif

I will use the money to buy back IGB Reit when it list, at the same time my capital do not need to be locked up while waiting for capital repayment.

Make a record, Kasset is trading at 9.08.
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 16 2012, 04:41 PM)
I am still scratching my head, why people so happy and vroom about Kasset going up to RM9.00 or Rm10.00 when one is not keen to sell off the Kassets shares.  biggrin.gif
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U try sell a bit now..then u know later lor
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QUOTE(katesamsung @ Aug 16 2012, 05:01 PM)
U try sell a bit now..then u know later lor
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You do not get Cherroy's meaning.
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U try sell a bit now..then u know later lor
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Then if one not keen to sell, even Kassets shoot up to RM20.00 also no use, because Kassets will be ex-IGBreit and delisted afterwards.
In other word, Kassets pricing is irrelevant if one doesn't intend to sell Kassets.

Kassets goes up to Rm10, Rm20, or even Rm50, won't differ how much IGB IPO and listing price afterwards.


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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 16 2012, 05:09 PM)
Then if one not keen to sell, even Kassets shoot up to RM20.00 also no use, because Kassets will be ex-IGBreit and delisted afterwards.
In other word, Kassets pricing is irrelevant if one doesn't intend to sell Kassets.

Kassets goes up to Rm10, Rm20, or even Rm50, won't differ how much IGB IPO and listing price afterwards.
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Ppl are chasing KAssets cause no need to play wheel of fortune

Nowdays with new IPO ....very hard to get a pie of it cause allocate very little public

We are talking here above RM 9.00...i think its not rediculous for ppl to buy......if we play for passive income...

RM 9.00 above...no la u mention Rm10 ..RM 20 or RM 50....

IF RM 10 ...i think it;s relevant...a lot ppl also wan to sell and buy it back during listing.....


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QUOTE(katesamsung @ Aug 16 2012, 05:16 PM)
Ppl are chasing KAssets cause no need to play wheel of fortune

Nowdays with new IPO ....very hard to get a pie of it cause allocate very little public

We are talking here above RM 9.00...i think its not rediculous for ppl to buy......if we play for passive income...

RM 9.00 above...no la u mention Rm10 ..RM 20 or RM 50....

IF RM 10 ...i think it;s relevant...a lot ppl also wan to sell and buy it back during listing.....
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Sincerely...i planning to get more if the share trade in this range....Personally i think it should more than today closing value RM9.08 (Personal View) after studying the share almost 1 year

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QUOTE(katesamsung @ Aug 16 2012, 05:16 PM)
Ppl are chasing KAssets cause no need to play wheel of fortune

Nowdays with new IPO ....very hard to get a pie of it cause allocate very little public

We are talking here above RM 9.00...i think its not rediculous for ppl to buy......if we play for passive income...

RM 9.00 above...no la u mention Rm10 ..RM 20 or RM 50....

IF RM 10 ...i think it;s relevant...a lot ppl also wan to sell and buy it back during listing.....


Added on August 16, 2012, 5:26 pm
Sincerely...i planning to get more if the share trade in this range....Personally i think it should more than today closing value RM9.08 (Personal View) after studying the share almost 1 year
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Yes, people may chase, but for existing Kassets shareholders, if not intend to sell, whether Kasset vroom or not, make no different, be it Rm8.00 or Rm9.00 or Rm10.00

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 16 2012, 05:30 PM)
Yes, people may chase, but for existing Kassets shareholders, if not intend to sell, whether Kasset vroom or not, make no different, be it Rm8.00 or Rm9.00 or Rm10.00
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IF KAssets is RM8.00 now....who goin to apply IPO at 1.25

Kassets went above RM 9.00 cause ppl value it more than RM 1.25.....cause mid valley and garden ...one of the hottest mall in Malaysia

I not surprise it go beyond RM9.50 as this is a great chance for ppl who always miss the GOOD IPO stock due to allocation to public is very little to own it....

Very seldom with NEW good value IPO stock.......no need to play wheel of fortune and we can get a pie of it.....
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I think bro katesamsung is assuming that IGB reit will have potential upside once it is listed.... so he thinks that at RM9 - RM9.05, still a good buy....

correct me if i am wrong.
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QUOTE(katesamsung @ Aug 16 2012, 05:37 PM)
IF KAssets is RM8.00 now....who goin to apply IPO at 1.25

Kassets went above RM 9.00 cause ppl value it more than RM 1.25.....cause mid valley and garden ...one of the hottest mall in Malaysia

I not surprise it go beyond RM9.50 as this is a great chance for ppl who always miss the GOOD IPO stock due to allocation to public is very little to own it....

Very seldom with NEW good value IPO stock.......no need to play wheel of fortune and we can get a pie of it.....
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QUOTE(yyie @ Aug 16 2012, 05:58 PM)
I think bro katesamsung is assuming that IGB reit will have potential upside once it is listed.... so he thinks that at RM9 - RM9.05, still a good buy....

correct me if i am wrong.
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No, seems don't understand what I meant so long.

Yes, people can chase. But as earlier message to keep IGBreit or Kassets for 3-6 months, it makes no different Kassets price surge or plunge, unless one wants to trade or buy/sell Kassets.
So whether Kassets price surge to Rm9.10 or not, there is nothing to be Vroom about. smile.gif

Instead if positive about IGBreit, one should be feel sad that Kassets price goes beyong Rm9.00, but not "vroom''.

I never said at Rm9 is not a good buy or it is. If one intends to get IGBreit not via IPO or first day of listing, then buying Kassets is a good route to own it.

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Ppl are chasing KAssets cause no need to play wheel of fortune

Nowdays with new IPO ....very hard to get a pie of it cause allocate very little public

We are talking here above RM 9.00...i think its not rediculous for ppl to buy......if we play for passive income...

RM 9.00 above...no la u mention Rm10 ..RM 20 or RM 50....

IF RM 10 ...i think it;s relevant...a lot ppl also wan to sell and buy it back during listing.....


Added on August 16, 2012, 5:26 pm
Sincerely...i planning to get more if the share trade in this range....Personally i think it should more than today closing value RM9.08 (Personal View) after studying the share almost 1 year
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Those stubborn one still think this think that , 8.90 they ignore it , 9.00 they also ignore it , now 9.08 ........ Later 9.30 ( they said expensive also ignore it , )

(9.30 - 2.43)/5.24 = 1.31 ( Not include 0.xx Earn via 6 mth ) This one call expensive ? ====== > See Pavreit price 1.40


How abt 10.00 ?

(10.00 - 2.43)/5.24 = 1.44 ( Not include 0.xx Earn via 6 mth ) This one just fair value ====== > See Pavreit price 1.40
( Coz Midvalley more tong kong than Pav)


Again, invest or not up to you.


Added on August 16, 2012, 11:32 pm
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I am still scratching my head, why people so happy and vroom about Kasset going up to RM9.00 or Rm10.00 when one is not keen to sell off the Kassets shares.  biggrin.gif
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Sell at 9.00 ....... Ha ha Fund Manager very happy loh , they start eat at 9.00 ........ See today Volume

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QUOTE(flowking88 @ Aug 16 2012, 11:11 PM)
Those stubborn one still think this think that , 8.90 they ignore it , 9.00 they also ignore it , now 9.08 ........  Later 9.30 ( they said expensive  also ignore it  , )

(9.30 - 2.43)/5.24 = 1.31  ( Not include 0.xx  Earn via  6 mth )                          This one call expensive ?                            ======  >      See Pavreit price 1.40     
How abt  10.00  ?

(10.00 - 2.43)/5.24 = 1.44 ( Not include 0.xx Earn via 6 mth )                            This one just fair value                              ======  >      See Pavreit price  1.40
                                                                                                                    ( Coz Midvalley more tong kong than Pav) 
Again, invest or not up to you.


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Sell at 9.00  .......  Ha ha Fund Manager very happy loh  , they start eat at 9.00  ........  See today Volume
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Added on August 16, 2012, 11:32 pm
Sell at 9.00  .......  Ha ha Fund Manager very happy loh  , they start eat at 9.00  ........  See today Volume
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So if one is not keen to sell it, then whether it surges to Rm10, or Rm11, is irrelevant.

Yes, RM9.00 can be a bargain for fund manager to buy if the fund manager keen on IGBreit IPO. But for existing Kassets shareholders that not keen to sell Kassets but want to own IGBreit, current pricing of Kassets has no meaning, be it Rm9.00 or RM10.


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I think u r understand what i have mentioned

Thanks

Let Huats ah!!!
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The really "huat" is when IGBreit listing time and dictated by IGBreit price afterwards, if one is not intend to sell Kassets, but owning IGBreit.

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So if one is not keen to sell it, then whether it surges to Rm10, or Rm11, is irrelevant.

Yes, RM9.00 can be a bargain for fund manager to buy if the fund manager keen on IGBreit IPO. But for existing Kassets shareholders that not keen to sell Kassets but want to own IGBreit, current pricing of Kassets has no meaning, be it Rm9.00 or RM10.


Added on August 17, 2012, 9:13 am

The really "huat" is when IGBreit listing time and dictated by IGBreit price afterwards, if one is not intend to sell Kassets, but owning IGBreit.
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U dun get wat we mean


IF KASSETS go to RM10..u think upon IGB Reits listing still got RM1.25 or Even RM1.3x for u ah

It will go higher for that....

KASSETS higher...IGB REITS open listing also higher...u get it?
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QUOTE(flowking88 @ Aug 16 2012, 11:11 PM)
Those stubborn one still think this think that , 8.90 they ignore it , 9.00 they also ignore it , now 9.08 ........  Later 9.30 ( they said expensive  also ignore it  , )

(9.30 - 2.43)/5.24 = 1.31  ( Not include 0.xx  Earn via  6 mth )                          This one call expensive ?                            ======  >      See Pavreit price 1.40     
How abt  10.00  ?

(10.00 - 2.43)/5.24 = 1.44 ( Not include 0.xx Earn via 6 mth )                            This one just fair value                              ======  >      See Pavreit price  1.40
                                                                                                                    ( Coz Midvalley more tong kong than Pav) 
Again, invest or not up to you.


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Sell at 9.00  .......  Ha ha Fund Manager very happy loh  , they start eat at 9.00  ........  See today Volume
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btw even Kasset goes to Rm11, or even Rm12,i think it won't differ how much the listing price afterwards.
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go check kassets 30 largest holders.

u will know, later more funds will chase IGBREIT and put into their portfolio.

for those funds, all aim for stable income one, sure will keep more into their list.


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flowking 88 = katesamsung ?

btw even Kasset goes to Rm11, or even Rm12,i think it won't differ how much the listing price afterwards.
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It is better to save the energy to vroom when IGBreit listed time. biggrin.gif
(For those not keen to sell Kassets but own IGBreit) smile.gif
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hmm....
i think what bro cherroy means is that:

Ignoring the mentioned additional RM0.xx.

a) if KASSETS = RM9, one will get back RM2.43 capital repayment + 5240units IGB REITS.
b) if KASSETS = RM10, one will get back RM2.43 capital repayment + 5240units IGB REITS.
c) ..... and so on.....

So, if there is no intention of selling KASSETS after IGB REITS is listed, so our gain/profit is still the same, regardless of what is your entry price of KASSETS. Am I right?

Then what bro kate/flowking/gs mean is that:

a) if KASSETS = RM9.00, IGB REIT is equivalent to RM1.254
b) if KASSETS = RM10, IGB REIT is equivalent to RM1.445
c) ....and so on....

so upon KASSETS delisting, there will be RM0.xx return to shareholder, depending on the KASSETS entry price? (seems like I think in a wrong way huh?)

p/s: What happen to KASSETS when IGB REIT is listing in KLSE? Stop trading? or still trading?
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Planning to buy just small shares in IGB REIT.

Not enough money to buy kassets =)

Even if I buy 200units of Kassets, how many IGB reit shares can I get?
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Planning to buy just small shares in IGB REIT.

Not enough money to buy kassets =)

Even if I buy 200units of Kassets, how many IGB reit shares can I get?
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Bought KASSETS at 9.13. Therefore my price of IGB is 1.27. An acceptable premium for the guarantee.

Just a small question, when do we get these IGB shares if we buy KASSETS? Do we get them on the before the IGB listing date, on the day or after? Never been in this situation before.
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QUOTE(yyie @ Aug 17 2012, 10:15 AM)

so upon KASSETS delisting, there will be RM0.xx return to shareholder, depending on the KASSETS entry price? (seems like I think in a wrong way huh?)

p/s: What happen to KASSETS when IGB REIT is listing in KLSE? Stop trading? or still trading?
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Capital repayment is fixed, won't be depended one's entry price of Kassets.

Kassets will be still listed, until capital repayment process completed.
(but it won't traded at Rm9.00, probably at some discount (won't too much) as compared to the capital repayment amount
So probably you will see Kassets trades at RM2.xx after ex-IGBreit entitlement.

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 17 2012, 10:36 AM)
Capital repayment is fixed, won't be depended one's entry price of Kassets.

Kassets will be still listed, until capital repayment process completed.
(but it won't traded at Rm9.00, probably at some discount (won't too much) as compared to the capital repayment amount
So probably you will see Kassets trades at RM2.xx after ex-IGBreit entitlement.
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QUOTE(GloryKnight @ Aug 17 2012, 10:17 AM)
Planning to buy just small shares in IGB REIT.

Not enough money to buy kassets =)

Even if I buy 200units of Kassets, how many IGB reit shares can I get?
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Hi if planning to just buy little share,i suggest just bought at open day,may be the price at opening day will be higher,but u no need to stuck the money at kasset,and can use the money direct to buy More IGB share icon_rolleyes.gif


base on this is the special case of IPO that can own it on backdoor rclxub.gif ,and 93%share is owning by the 30 largest share holder that filled with a lot of fund manager,that mean on the opening day,the share price pusher is becoming less(all the interest owner can buy it at backdoor),so for my guest,share price on the first day are not going to higher too much.

by the way,if the share price goes higher too much,it not worth anymore to invest......

why buy a 4% yield when we can buy other 6-7% yield whistling.gif

think about it sweat.gif

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this is a long long term investment my fren. do you foresee midvalley to die? lol
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haha of cos not,but we might want to buy it at the right price tongue.gif

not high price biggrin.gif

for me if not higher than 1.33,it still worth to give a try rclxms.gif

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U dun get wat we mean
IF KASSETS go to RM10..u think upon IGB Reits listing still got RM1.25 or Even RM1.3x for u ah

It will go higher for that....

KASSETS higher...IGB REITS open listing also higher...u get it?
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Stubborn head one explain to him so many time still not get it , let them be .....

The more important thing is let time ( another 2 week - 3 week ) tell the fact ........


I predict next week will hiong to 9.30 , and no more 9.30 for u to sapu again ..........

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QUOTE(katesamsung @ Aug 17 2012, 09:26 AM)
U dun get wat we mean
IF KASSETS go to RM10..u think upon IGB Reits listing still got RM1.25 or Even RM1.3x for u ah

It will go higher for that....

KASSETS higher...IGB REITS open listing also higher...u get it?
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Kassets price is not dictating IGBreit price.
It is the other way round, IGBreit worth is dictating Kassets pricing now.

IGBreit price can go at whatever price be it Rm1.40, Rm1.50 is depended on situation or sentiment during first day of listing.

IGBreit pricing will have its own movement.


Added on August 17, 2012, 1:00 pmIf Kassets pricing is dictating IGbreit price, then all the future IGBreit major shareholder can opt to push Kassets to Rm15, then mean IGBreit can shoot to RM2.00? laugh.gif

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QUOTE(flowking88 @ Aug 17 2012, 12:46 PM)
Stubborn head one explain to him so many time still not get it , let them be ..... 

The more important thing is let time ( another 2 week - 3 week )  tell the fact  ........ 
I predict next week will hiong to 9.30 , and no more 9.30 for u to sapu again ..........
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seem like u still dnt understand what cherroy bro say......

no matter how high the kasset be,it cannot make money if you wannt to invest for igb cause the price after dis kasset will adjust back to normal......

and igbreit price are not follow the mother share not matter how high it be.......

by the way,if you want to invest igbreit ,now kasset is still worth to try...... nod.gif
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 17 2012, 12:58 PM)
Kassets price is not dictating IGBreit price.
It is the other way round, IGBreit worth is dictating Kassets pricing now.

IGBreit price can go at whatever price be it Rm1.40, Rm1.50 is depended on situation or sentiment during first day of listing.

IGBreit pricing will have its own movement.


Added on August 17, 2012, 1:00 pmIf Kassets pricing is dictating IGbreit price, then all the future IGBreit major shareholder can opt to push Kassets to Rm15, then mean IGBreit can shoot to RM2.00?  laugh.gif
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I would say, some quarters having interest in pushing Kassets up and up. Cash out quickly before ex therefore making quite a fair amount from the Kassets growth. Then re-entry by joining the IPO or market price without lock-in for 6 months of capital repayment, wait for it to grow about 1-2 months and cash out again prior to GE13.

Correct me if i am wrong..
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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 17 2012, 12:58 PM)
Kassets price is not dictating IGBreit price.
It is the other way round, IGBreit worth is dictating Kassets pricing now.

IGBreit price can go at whatever price be it Rm1.40, Rm1.50 is depended on situation or sentiment during first day of listing.

IGBreit pricing will have its own movement.


Added on August 17, 2012, 1:00 pmIf Kassets pricing is dictating IGbreit price, then all the future IGBreit major shareholder can opt to push Kassets to Rm15, then mean IGBreit can shoot to RM2.00?  laugh.gif
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Be reasonable..who say IGB reits listing day will be RM 2.00....long term yes..it will

u think bro here stupid enuf to buy something that they think not value enuf

U are talking way out the range....who goin to push KASSETS to RM 12 n above..you?

We are talking price RM 9 something range here.....u get or not?

IF Kassets RM8 something..who goin to subcribe IPO at RM 1.25.

Some of us will value this IGB Reits even more .. and dun wan to play tikam.....wan to keep long term

That's y im not surprise even it go above RM9.50 before the entitlement...


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I would say, some quarters having interest in pushing Kassets up and up. Cash out quickly before ex therefore making quite a fair amount from the Kassets growth. Then re-entry by joining the IPO or market price without lock-in for 6 months of capital repayment, wait for it to grow about 1-2 months and cash out again prior to GE13.

Correct me if i am wrong..
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Bro.. if you comment is truth then , pls sell now...if u hav any kassets

Let other bro ..to buy in at this price....

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flowking 88 = katesamsung ?

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The writing pretty similar .. But just dun have the word "roooom". No offence. Just see see here only. Not here to support kassets or anti-kassets on the IGB reits.

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Bro

Be reasonable..who say IGB reits listing day will be RM 2.00....long term yes..it will

u think bro here stupid enuf to buy something that they think not value enuf

U are talking way out the range....who goin to push KASSETS to RM 12 n above..you?

We are talking price RM 9 something range here.....u get or not?

IF Kassets RM8 something..who goin to subcribe IPO at RM 1.25.

Some of us will value this IGB Reits even more .. and dun wan to play tikam.....wan to keep long term

That's y im not surprise even it go above RM9.50 before the entitlement...


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Bro.. if you comment is truth then , pls sell now...if u hav any kassets

Let other bro ..to buy in at this price....
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Then no matter vroom vroom, vroom here or vroom there, it is within RM9 range.

ok, I don't know so much vroom vroom mean within Rm9-9.50 range. My apology.

I mis-intepret vroom vroom term. biggrin.gif
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Then no matter vroom vroom, vroom here or vroom there, it is within RM9 range.

ok, I don't know so much vroom vroom mean within Rm9-9.50 range. My apology. 

I mis-intepret vroom vroom term.  biggrin.gif
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I started this rooommmm...when Kassets is below IPO price...RM8.60..now roooommm to Rm 9 something

Now 9 something ...r u sure it cannot vroomm above 9.50 ah...

SO KASSETS...or IGB REIT....ROOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!! CAUSE BOTH OF THEM IS ABANG ADIK...
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QUOTE(katesamsung @ Aug 17 2012, 03:05 PM)
I started this rooommmm...when Kassets is below IPO price...RM8.60..now roooommm to Rm 9 something

Now 9 something ...r u sure it cannot vroomm above 9.50 ah...

SO KASSETS...or IGB REIT....ROOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!! CAUSE BOTH OF THEM IS ABANG ADIK...
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got other forumers oledi start collecting since 7.xx.... really salute them with such vison.......
but to chase high now, it really up to personal "appetite"... but i wont biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(katesamsung @ Aug 17 2012, 03:05 PM)
I started this rooommmm...when Kassets is below IPO price...RM8.60..now roooommm to Rm 9 something

Now 9 something ...r u sure it cannot vroomm above 9.50 ah...

SO KASSETS...or IGB REIT....ROOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!! CAUSE BOTH OF THEM IS ABANG ADIK...
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oic, from 8.60 to 9.00 is considered Vroommmmmmmmmm laugh.gif
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I checkout from Kasset today

Average cost 8.16, sold at 9.13 yawn.gif

Will be back for IPO & Listing day

Cherroy, knowing that you plan to buy during listing, so are you going to try on IPO as well? Got luck? laugh.gif
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I checkout from Kasset today

Average cost 8.16, sold at 9.13 yawn.gif

Will be back for IPO & Listing day

Cherroy, knowing that you plan to buy during listing, so are you going to try on IPO as well? Got luck? laugh.gif
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Re-entry back to IPO or at market?
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 17 2012, 03:26 PM)
I checkout from Kasset today

Average cost 8.16, sold at 9.13 yawn.gif

Will be back for IPO & Listing day

Cherroy, knowing that you plan to buy during listing, so are you going to try on IPO as well? Got luck? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 17 2012, 03:26 PM)
I checkout from Kasset today

Average cost 8.16, sold at 9.13 yawn.gif

Will be back for IPO & Listing day

Cherroy, knowing that you plan to buy during listing, so are you going to try on IPO as well? Got luck? laugh.gif
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No, I won't buy through IPO.
So little portion for public and selling like hot cakes, better spend those luck on 4D. biggrin.gif

4D Rm1 win 2.xk.
IPO at 1.25, probably open at 1.3x or 1.4x.


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No, I won't buy through IPO.
So little portion for public and selling like hot cakes, better spend those luck on 4D.  biggrin.gif

4D Rm1 win 2.xk.
IPO at 1.25, probably open at 1.3x or 1.4x.
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probably open 1.3x and may b above 1.40
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QUOTE(oreomambo @ Aug 17 2012, 02:22 PM)
I would say, some quarters having interest in pushing Kassets up and up. Cash out quickly before ex therefore making quite a fair amount from the Kassets growth. Then re-entry by joining the IPO or market price without lock-in for 6 months of capital repayment, wait for it to grow about 1-2 months and cash out again prior to GE13.

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 17 2012, 10:36 AM)
Capital repayment is fixed, won't be depended one's entry price of Kassets.

Kassets will be still listed, until capital repayment process completed.
(but it won't traded at Rm9.00, probably at some discount (won't too much) as compared to the capital repayment amount
So probably you will see Kassets trades at RM2.xx after ex-IGBreit entitlement.
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Does it mean after IGBReit listed, if Kassets share price around 2.43, we may sell it in the open market to immediately unlock our cash repayment back? notworthy.gif


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U dun get wat we mean
IF KASSETS go to RM10..u think upon IGB Reits listing still got RM1.25 or Even RM1.3x for u ah

It will go higher for that....

KASSETS higher...IGB REITS open listing also higher...u get it?
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If you are talking about selling IGBReit right after its share price peak at IPO days, then yes, maybe you are right.
So after all, you are not talking about how bright Midvalley is, you are actually talking about how to make good profit on its IPO few days time.
Nowadays, market values REITs at their yield. Midvalley's rental fees won't go up when Kassets/IGBReit's share price go up. Its fair value already fixed in 1 year time, which is about 5.3% yield at 1.25. You, or the market, or Kassets/IGBReit share price all also cannot change this fact.
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Does it mean after IGBReit listed, if Kassets share price around 2.43, we may sell it in the open market to immediately unlock our cash repayment back?  notworthy.gif


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It will be at some discount to its capital repayment.
If the total repayment is Rm2.43 (total should be slightly more than Rm2.43) who is going to buy at RM2.43? Somemore need to wait for up to 6 months time before can get back the cash.
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When can we apply E-IPO for IGB reit? Thx
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Still nobody understand that 0.xx , i silent tell u all , even at 2.43 also worth to buy after x , i just afraid can not get that price ...... Ha ha Ha

Any friend understand it , i am very lonely .........
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QUOTE(flowking88 @ Aug 17 2012, 11:19 PM)
Still nobody understand that 0.xx , i silent tell u all , even at 2.43 also worth to buy after x , i just afraid can not get that price ......  Ha ha Ha

Any friend understand it , i am very lonely  .........
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Bro, I'm understand

No worry
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ipo application on 23/8/12
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noob question here..what is the difference between buying during ipo and after the listing day...besides the price may slightly different,other than that?
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IGB REIT balloting will be on 5 Sep 2012.
If we fail to get it, how soon will the funds be transfered back to our banking account ?
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noob question here..what is the difference between buying during ipo and after the listing day...besides the price may slightly different,other than that?
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1. Price Difference
2. When you buy IGB REIT after listed (19-Sep), you have to pay brokerage fees, stamp duty, clearing fee via your Securities Firm.

Getting at IPO balloting is cheaper.
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I'm a newbie in stock market investing. How do I apply for the IPO?

Thanks in advance for the advice.
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For CIMBClicks, login - under Manager my Wealth, click eIPO>Apply Now
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Hi,

I'm a newbie in stock market investing. How do I apply for the IPO?

Thanks in advance for the advice.
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but wait first thing first ...... do u have a CDS account (investment bank e.g. OSK, Hwang DBS and etc) ? if not apply one before subscribe IPO .......
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Saw this from fb, how true it is?

Did we miss out any announcement from Kasset or IGB? hmm.gif

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資匯 The busy weekly
怡保花园产业投资信托(IGB REIT)临阵变卦?
原订在明天下午2点15分举行记者会,推介怡保花园产业投资信托最后一分钟喊停,让人不解。
怡保花园今午通过公关公司,发出一项紧急通告,取消明天的推介议式,直至另行通知为止。
怡保花园上市后,料会是全马市值最大的REIT。

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pana, you buy kassets or applt ipo ?
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@smartly

I took profit on Kasset last Friday at RM9.13 because I feel that it has gone up more than IPO price (RM9). Planning to buy back from IPO and/or on listing day.
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but wait first thing first ...... do u have a CDS account (investment bank e.g. OSK, Hwang DBS and etc) ? if not apply one before subscribe IPO .......
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Yes I do. Using maybank. I think Auron already answer my question. So can I apply now?

Thanks for the advice.
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If using Maybank2U - login, go to Investment Tab, click e-Share>IPO Application

For CIMBClicks, login - under Manager my Wealth, click eIPO>Apply Now
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Can use hongleong ebroking to buy?


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If using Maybank2U - login, go to Investment Tab, click e-Share>IPO Application

For CIMBClicks, login - under Manager my Wealth, click eIPO>Apply Now
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Can use hongleong ebroking to buy?

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QUOTE(M@ximus @ Aug 22 2012, 09:02 PM)
Yes I do. Using maybank. I think Auron already answer my question. So can I apply now?

Thanks for the advice.
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Can start applying from 23-August onwards
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just now saw the news from tv, confirm the IGB IPO postponed at last minute... Wonder WHY??
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Wednesday, 22/08/2012

CIMB regret to inform that the press conference on the launch of IGB Real Estate Investment Trust's (REIT) prospectus scheduled on Thurday 23 August 2012 has been POSTPONED until further notice, due to unforeseen circumstances.

CIMB apologise for any inconvenience caused.

SOURCE: CIMB

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That's why some people choose to buy directly when IPO or listing time.
Save hassle, potential risk and time risk factor, although it may be more expensive a bit if buying at IPO listing time.


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@smartly

I took profit on Kasset last Friday at RM9.13 because I feel that it has gone up more than IPO price (RM9). Planning to buy back from IPO and/or on listing day.
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You may able to buy back below Rm9.00 if there is no further info or date given for the prospectus for the launching of the IPO. nod.gif

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QUOTE(cherroy @ Aug 22 2012, 11:15 PM)
That's why some people choose to buy directly when IPO or listing time.
Save hassle, potential risk and time risk factor, although it may be more expensive a bit if buying at IPO listing time.


Added on August 22, 2012, 11:16 pm

You may able to buy back below Rm9.00 if there is no further info or date given for the prospectus for the launching of the IPO.  nod.gif
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Good points..........maybe something wrong with NAV? biggrin.gif

Risk in Msian companies.........
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 22 2012, 07:18 PM)
@smartly

I took profit on Kasset last Friday at RM9.13 because I feel that it has gone up more than IPO price (RM9). Planning to buy back from IPO and/or on listing day.
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Just a question here pana, why do you want to buy kassets back though?


The delayment in IGB's prospectus smell something fishy..
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Just a question here pana, why do you want to buy kassets back though?
The delayment in IGB's prospectus smell something fishy..
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So far wat i know is there are delay on the conference of launching IGB reits Prospectus only....

For ur info,IGB mother share already exercise and allocated "8 unit : 100 IGB reits to their shareholder on 15 Aug 2012

In opinion, i think it wont delay

Let wait and c
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Chicken out meh?

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dafuk?
Chicken out meh?

Grrrrrr
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More like not wanting to clash with another mammoth IPO -> Astro. Gong date for Astro is towards end sept, which is very very near IGB's. Investors would have to split bullets if they would to go too near each another. That will lower the oversubscribe rate and projected to be less 'appealing'. My point of view. If they would still go ahead with IGB IPO under the shadow of Astro, then i will have to choose either one.
But then again, if they miss the window, they might hit GE13 which will cast a gloomy cloud.
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招股书推介延期,因为证监会对招股书部分内容进行咨询,从而延迟注册时间。
(内容来自星洲报)

Inspection by SC on certain part of the Prospectus causing the delay.
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 23 2012, 11:25 AM)
招股书推介延期,因为证监会对招股书部分内容进行咨询,从而延迟注册时间。
(内容来自星洲报)

Inspection by SC on certain part of the Prospectus causing the delay.
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This news is new to me.
Wonder what is the issue.
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This news is new to me.
Wonder what is the issue.
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Propose next date for launching IPO is on 28/08.
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Propose next date for launching IPO is on 28/08.
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Source please?
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Source please?
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Thank you for the link.

Well, more time for we'all to prepare bullets. biggrin.gif
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Thank you for the link.

Well, more time for we'all to prepare bullets. biggrin.gif
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5 days delay only? can only go borrow from Tai Yi Long loh! tongue.gif
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What's the new IGB REIT schedule with the delay ?
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What's the new IGB REIT schedule with the delay ?
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Registration issue, I read.
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So, last day to apply IPO on 30-08-2012 is void, right?
There will have a new schedule coming out soon?
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So, last day to apply IPO on 30-08-2012 is void, right?
There will have a new schedule coming out soon?
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YES, that's the current outlook.
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IGB reit IPO is open today... smile.gif
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IGB reit IPO is open today... smile.gif
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IGB reit IPO is open today... smile.gif
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Roommmmmmmmmm , Can start apply IPO liao !!!
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IGB REIT IPO Applications will be accepted from 10.00 a.m. on 27 August 2012 and will close at 5.00 p.m. on 4 September 2012
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Opening of application :- 27/08/2012
Closing of application :- 04/09/2012
Balloting of applications :- 07/09/2012
Allotment of IPO shares to successful applicants :- 20/09/2012
Tentative listing date :- 21/09/2012
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still got few days to end of da month for bullets to masuk pocket and then apply!
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still got few days to end of da month for bullets to masuk pocket and then apply!
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Bro,

Get ready ur bullets for this IPO

Being the hottest mall in malaysia...potential to growth and value appreciation is great

Human Traffic is supported by well growth places like bangsar, old klang road, PJ, and even bukit jalil

There are building a link from LRT station abdullah hukum to Mid Valley, with the KTM komuter in place..i think this reits should be very good

The threat is the traffic and coming urban mall like IOI city mall, Setia Alam Mall but which i think it wont affect much as mid valley already being self sustain mall that dun not need others area human traffic..

Just my thought


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QUOTE(katesamsung @ Aug 27 2012, 11:39 AM)
Bro,

Get ready ur bullets for this IPO

Being the hottest mall in malaysia...potential to growth and value appreciation is great

Human Traffic is supported by well growth places like bangsar, old klang road, PJ, and even bukit jalil

There are building a link from LRT station abdullah hukum to Mid Valley, with the KTM komuter in place..i think this reits should be very good

The threat is the traffic and coming urban mall like IOI city mall, Setia Alam Mall but which i think it wont affect much as mid valley already being self sustain mall that dun not need others area human traffic..

Just my thought
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what is the actual no of shares for the public?
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what is the actual no of shares for the public?
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34 mil.

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QUOTE(katesamsung @ Aug 27 2012, 11:39 AM)
Bro,

Get ready ur bullets for this IPO

Being the hottest mall in malaysia...potential to growth and value appreciation is great

Human Traffic is supported by well growth places like bangsar, old klang road, PJ, and even bukit jalil

There are building a link from LRT station abdullah hukum to Mid Valley, with the KTM komuter in place..i think this reits should be very good

The threat is the traffic and coming urban mall like IOI city mall, Setia Alam Mall but which i think it wont affect much as mid valley already being self sustain mall that dun not need others area human traffic..

Just my thought
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Master sifu IGB Reit. notworthy.gif
Still haven't seen Kassets announcement of confirmation regarding 1 Kassets to 5.24 IGBReit. Is this written on the IPO document? Since I don't want any odd lots. Thanks!! notworthy.gif
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what is the actual no of shares for the public?
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Total 670m offer this IPO represent 19.7% of total listing 3400m units

Out of it, only 24m of those units will offer to public via balloting.

This show IGB parent company very confident on this IPO
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QUOTE(katesamsung @ Aug 27 2012, 11:59 AM)
Total 670m offer this IPO represent 19.7% of total listing 3400m units

Out of it, only 24m of those units will offer to public via balloting.

This show IGB parent company very confident on this IPO
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24 million after deducting the bumi reservation?
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24 million after deducting the bumi reservation?
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i think havent
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i think havent
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QUOTE(yok70 @ Aug 27 2012, 11:56 AM)
Master sifu IGB Reit.  notworthy.gif
Still haven't seen Kassets announcement of confirmation regarding 1 Kassets to 5.24 IGBReit. Is this written on the IPO document? Since I don't want any odd lots. Thanks!!  notworthy.gif
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50 lots should be the right amount to avoid odd lots, 5.24 x 5,000 = 26,200 units (262 lots)
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Aug 27 2012, 12:33 PM)
50 lots should be the right amount to avoid odd lots, 5.24 x 5,000 = 26,200 units (262 lots)
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25 lots minimum, 13100 units. biggrin.gif
However, I still haven't seen Kassets' confirmation announcement. And I can't find it in IGBReit's IPO document. sad.gif
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not available in maybank still. what about other banks ? smile.gif
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cimb got already..
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34 mil.
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Hi xuexueli,

saw ur stock holdings and u bought IHH at 2.80. i thought IPO for IHH is 2.85 ? how did u get it at 2.80? please enlighten me.

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Hi xuexueli,

saw ur stock holdings and u bought IHH at 2.80. i thought IPO for IHH is 2.85 ? how did u get it at 2.80? please enlighten me.

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Final price is RM2.80. Although we applied it at RM2.85 during IPO but the RM0.05 was refunded to us.
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QUOTE(kb2005 @ Aug 27 2012, 02:28 PM)
Final price is RM2.80. Although we applied it at RM2.85 during IPO but the RM0.05 was refunded to us.
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is there any limit on the amount of $ that can be transferred/deducted from maybank savings/current account for IGB REIT e-ipo application?
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is there any limit on the amount of $ that can be transferred/deducted from maybank savings/current account for IGB REIT e-ipo application?
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Opening of application 27/08/2012
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So are you going to apply more from IPO? smile.gif
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@katesamsung

So are you going to apply more from IPO? smile.gif
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I think hard to get thru IPO..

But anyway i have bought some Kassets which i bought above RM9.00 recently - can keep until cucu cici liao..hehhehe


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QUOTE(katesamsung @ Aug 27 2012, 05:21 PM)
I think hard to get thru IPO..

But anyway i have bought some Kassets which i bought above RM9.00 recently - can keep until cucu cici liao..hehhehe
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But anyway i wil try to apply more .....Target PASSIVE INCOME 15K per month

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QUOTE(katesamsung @ Aug 27 2012, 05:21 PM)
I think hard to get thru IPO..

But anyway i have bought some Kassets which i bought above RM9.00 recently - can keep until cucu cici liao..hehhehe


Added on August 27, 2012, 5:23 pm
But anyway i wil try to apply more .....Target PASSIVE INCOME 15K per month
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Wow that needs about 2.5mil capital, assuming you're getting 8% yield.
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Wow that needs about 2.5mil capital, assuming you're getting 8% yield.
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TOTAL TARGET 15K MONTHLY PASSIVE INCOME
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I got others reits beside IGB Reits...

TOTAL TARGET 15K MONTHLY PASSIVE INCOME
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biggrin.gif wow so great

mine to share how far to go to reach ur target? tongue.gif

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hmm..this or Astro? ....decisions, decisions, decisions.
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Astro??
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any chance the listing date might clash with Astro?
is it possible sell this on 1st day and proceed with Astro application
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In the news, Astro listing date is nearing end Sept unless they decide to shift it. That means your bullets are still in IGB still. For units you didn't kena, it wouldn't refund in time for you to apply Astro IPO. For units you kena, no need to ask already, ..just keep it la and reap dividends.
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In the news, Astro listing date is nearing end Sept unless they decide to shift it.  That means your bullets are still in IGB still. For units you didn't kena, it wouldn't refund in time for you to apply Astro IPO. For units you kena, no need to ask already, ..just keep it la and reap dividends.
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so this REIT mainly for those long term hold one, reaping dividends
no chance it might jump on 1st day drool.gif
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so this REIT mainly for those long term hold one, reaping dividends
no chance it might jump on 1st day drool.gif
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(吉隆坡27日讯)即將在9月21日上市的怡保花园房產信託(IGB REIT),將在未来3至5年內,把柔佛Southkey Megamall纳入其管理的房產组合。

怡保花园房產信託目前旗下有两项主要资產,分別是谷中城与The Gardens购物广场。

怡保花园董事经理陈俊明表示,將通过收购或建筑本身的购物商场,来为怡保花园房產信託注入资產。

至于海外收购计划,陈氏在招股书推介礼中指出:「欧美目前的经济状况,为我们带来低于重置成本的收购商机,不失为一项可考虑的领域。」

无论如何,陈氏重申,他们较倾向于建筑並管理本身的购物商场,再投入至房產信託。

儘管国內零售业竞爭趋烈,但怡保花园房產信託坚持以零售购物商场的形式经营。陈俊明表示,仅管出现竞爭,但零售商场的营业额仍每年成长中。

「谷中城与The Gardens仍有成长前景。最低限度,我们要確保这两项资產获得良好管理,以让投资者看到其成长。保守估计,这两项资產可带来5%至8%的营业额增长。」

有鑑于谷中城已发展成熟,The Gardens则相对年轻,陈俊明认为,后者可有更快速的成长潜能。

此外,两项资產大部分的租约將在每3年更新一次,每年约有1/3的租客將更新租约。

与其他商场相比,谷中城与The Gardens的租金率非常健康,陈俊明有信心今年可取得8%至10%的营业额成长。

同时,原定于上週三(22日)发布的招股书被延后至今,这主要因为开斋节假期的延误。

怡保花园房產信託冀望通过首次公开发售(IPO)集资8亿3750万令吉。两家商场的上市后总资產值高达46亿令吉,將为国內目前规模最大的零售房產信託。

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Any Johorian here can share, is Southkey Megamall a happening mall in Johore? Is the crowd as many as we see in Mid Valley? Are the shops mostly occupied? hmm.gif

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(吉隆坡27日讯)即將在9月21日上市的怡保花园房產信託(IGB REIT),將在未来3至5年內,把柔佛Southkey Megamall纳入其管理的房產组合。

怡保花园房產信託目前旗下有两项主要资產,分別是谷中城与The Gardens购物广场。

怡保花园董事经理陈俊明表示,將通过收购或建筑本身的购物商场,来为怡保花园房產信託注入资產。

至于海外收购计划,陈氏在招股书推介礼中指出:「欧美目前的经济状况,为我们带来低于重置成本的收购商机,不失为一项可考虑的领域。」

无论如何,陈氏重申,他们较倾向于建筑並管理本身的购物商场,再投入至房產信託。

儘管国內零售业竞爭趋烈,但怡保花园房產信託坚持以零售购物商场的形式经营。陈俊明表示,仅管出现竞爭,但零售商场的营业额仍每年成长中。

「谷中城与The Gardens仍有成长前景。最低限度,我们要確保这两项资產获得良好管理,以让投资者看到其成长。保守估计,这两项资產可带来5%至8%的营业额增长。」

有鑑于谷中城已发展成熟,The Gardens则相对年轻,陈俊明认为,后者可有更快速的成长潜能。

此外,两项资產大部分的租约將在每3年更新一次,每年约有1/3的租客將更新租约。

与其他商场相比,谷中城与The Gardens的租金率非常健康,陈俊明有信心今年可取得8%至10%的营业额成长。

同时,原定于上週三(22日)发布的招股书被延后至今,这主要因为开斋节假期的延误。

怡保花园房產信託冀望通过首次公开发售(IPO)集资8亿3750万令吉。两家商场的上市后总资產值高达46亿令吉,將为国內目前规模最大的零售房產信託。
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I thought baru wan built??
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I thought baru wan built??
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More news:

Johor's own Mid Valley City


KUALA LUMPUR: The proposed Mid Valley City-type mixed development in Johor Baru, via a joint venture between IGB Corp Bhd and Selia Pantai Sdn Bhd, is expected to take four to five years, and has a tentative gross development value of RM6bil.

“Tentatively, the project will have a gross development cost of RM2bil to RM3bil. It took us 15 years to get Mid Valley City to what it is today. Hopefully, it will take us only half that time with the Johor project,” said IGB Corp group managing director Robert Tan.

IGB Corp, the developer of Mid Valley City in Kuala Lumpur, has entered into a conditional memorandum of understanding (MoU) with Selia Pantai for the joint venture.

Johor Menteri Besar Datuk Abdul Ghani Othman, who witnessed the MoU signing, said the project would complement other developemnts in the Iskandar Malaysia economic growth corridor.


From left: Tan, IGB Corp chairman Tan Sri Abu Talib Othman, Selia Pantai MD Datuk Mohamed Zaini Amran, Ghani and Kumpulan Prasarana Rakyat Johor Sdn Bhd chief Executive officer Johar Salim Yahaya looking at a model of the proposed Southkey Megamall in Johor Baru.
A joint-venture company called Southkey Megamall Sdn Bhd will be set up to acquire three parcels of leasehold land measuring 36 acres for the project within the 300-acre Southkey development in Johor Baru.

Selia Pantai is the Southkey developer and is a public-private partnership between the Selia Group and the Johor government via Kumpulan Prasarana Rakyat Johor Sdn Bhd (KPRJ).

IGB Corp will have a 70% stake in Southkey Megamall, with the balance owned by Selia Pantai.

Southkey is located within the Johor Baru city flagship zone A of Iskandar Malaysia and is accessible via five-minute drive from the Sultan Iskandar Customs, Immigration and Quarantine (CIQ) complex as well as via Jalan Tebrau, Jalan Bakar Batu and the Eastern Dispersal Link.

Tan said it was a great location for the proposed Southkey Megamall.

“It is not easy to find a location like this. We are bullish on the Johor market. There are many things happening in Iskandar Malaysia,” he said.

He said Selia Pantai had approached IGB Corp about six months ago with the proposal for the project, which is planned to have a retail mall as well as hotels, serviced apartments and offices.

The proposed Southkey Megamall will have six million sq ft of space, and will include a net lettable area of 1.5 million sq ft, with about 7,000 carparks and can accomodate two major anchor tenants as well as 400 to 500 retail outlets.

IGB Corp will fund its portion of the project via internal funds and bank borrowings.

According to Tan, another six to nine months will be needed to do studies as well as resolve planning approvals and other issues pertaining to the project.

“We hope to start construction in 2013. This is our first project in Johor. we are always on the lookout for opportunities. We want to look in the north also. Ideally, we want to have Mid Valley City-type developments in the south, central and north (Penang),” he said.

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Anyway.I must admit their location is quite strategic.
If plan properly, confirm got a lot of people visit.
Johor bahru shopping center mostly aim on Singaporean money.
What to do? Their money bigger than us. cry.gif cry.gif

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This is another hot stock. I guess many will apply as well. biggrin.gif
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If want makes sure get it, need buy Kassets.


Added on August 27, 2012, 10:53 pmHe also said the recent acquisition of Southkey Megamall Sdn Bhd would take about three to five years from now to develop.

IGB REIT is set to be Malaysia's largest retail REIT by asset value with the listing slated on Sept 21.

The trust, which offers 670 million units at an initial retail price of RM1.25 per unit, is expected to raise RM837.5 million from the initial public offering with a forecast 5.1 per cent yield annualised.

"The offer price is a fair deal looking at other REITs' performance, and we are very conservative when it comes to pricing," Tan said.

He said the listing would provide an avenue for investors to invest in one of the largest REITs in Malaysia with a total net lettable area of approximately 2.5 million sq ft (232,258 sq m).

Upon listing, IGB REIT is expected to achieve a market capitalisation of RM4.25 billion.

IGB Corp is optimistic of its retail property market given the continuous earnings growth against the backdrop of uncertainties in the global economy and competition, he added. — Bernama

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actually isit 1st come 1st serve basis for IPO?
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actually isit 1st come 1st serve basis for IPO?
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It's based on balloting... put in early doesn't mean you will get doh.gif
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Possibly check it tomorrow morning ...
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Final price is RM2.80. Although we applied it at RM2.85 during IPO but the RM0.05 was refunded to us.
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Can get it at open market right? If can't get the IPO.
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still not appear in maybank e-ipo...dun know what they're doing?
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It's available now.. wink.gif
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can elaborate more on how's the balloting system works or the chances to hit the IPO like?

says if i buy 30000shares(300lots?), what are the chances to get the IPO? notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(chrisw @ Aug 28 2012, 03:35 PM)
can elaborate more on how's the balloting system works or the chances to hit the IPO like?

says if i buy 30000shares(300lots?), what are the chances to get the IPO? notworthy.gif
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The high tranche you apply for the better the chance to get.... apply 1 lot has lousier chance compared to those applying for 100000 lots
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The high tranche you apply for the better the chance to get.... apply 1 lot has lousier chance compared to those applying for 100000 lots
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understood..is there any chart on the number..?

cos i read that some ppl would apply for 110lots instead of 100lots..? hmm.gif
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understood..is there any chart on the number..?

cos i read that some ppl would apply for 110lots instead of 100lots..?  hmm.gif
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They apply that way to be able to move to the next level ... I don't think they will release the odds until balloting is completed.
Until then, we can only "tikam"
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understood..is there any chart on the number..?

cos i read that some ppl would apply for 110lots instead of 100lots..?  hmm.gif
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Hope this can help ; sample of IHH Balloting result. biggrin.gif
http://www.mih.com.my/home.php?page=bs529p
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hi guys, how is it effect on our taxes for longer term hold?
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hi guys, how is it effect on our taxes for longer term hold?
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just a quick question, if i apply through maybank atm, do i need to fill in any form?
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1% for public, mean 34,000,000 units
very less chances to get it... (0.5% chances)

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Hope this can help ; sample of IHH Balloting result.  biggrin.gif
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just a quick question, if i apply through maybank atm, do i need to fill in any form?
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no need fill in form...just apply thru the atm machine or online flex.gif
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That's the wonders of REIT ... no tax on capital gain, taxed 10% on dividend i.e. no tax to be refunded or paid by Investors
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it means that its not taxable to be paid by us but already taxable when receive the dividends? am I right?
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it means that its not taxable to be paid by us but already taxable when receive the dividends? am I right?
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QUOTE(ronnie @ Aug 28 2012, 04:49 PM)
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hmm.. normally if try 10lots, can get ah? biggrin.gif first time apply IPO
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understood..is there any chart on the number..?

cos i read that some ppl would apply for 110lots instead of 100lots..?  hmm.gif
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QUOTE(j-insigh @ Aug 28 2012, 05:20 PM)
hmm.. normally if try 10lots, can get ah? biggrin.gif first time apply IPO
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10 lots are 1000 units only...
very super low percentage will kena...
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QUOTE(kb2005 @ Aug 28 2012, 05:20 PM)
I am the one who normally apply 110lots. smile.gif You may read my posting earlier.
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QUOTE(smokey @ Aug 28 2012, 05:30 PM)
10 lots are 1000 units only...
very super low percentage will kena...
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QUOTE(kb2005 @ Aug 28 2012, 05:20 PM)
I am the one who normally apply 110lots. smile.gif You may read my posting earlier.
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then what is your past success rate, let say out of 10-times?
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Thanks. What to expect in terms of annual dividends compared to other REITs?
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Half-Yearly Dividends.... approx 5-6%

Part 1 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajmsE-DTSDA
Part 2 : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrpNdB4atKw

Good for newbies
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QUOTE(kb2005 @ Aug 28 2012, 05:20 PM)
I am the one who normally apply 110lots. smile.gif You may read my posting earlier.
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Is that will cost 110 x 1250 = 137500?
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QUOTE(ozak @ Aug 28 2012, 05:41 PM)
Is that will cost 110 x 1250 = 137500?
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aint it suppose to be 110*125(per lot)=13750? Sorry if I am wrong. Newbie.
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QUOTE(ozak @ Aug 28 2012, 05:41 PM)
Is that will cost 110 x 1250 = 137500?
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old people 1 lot = 1000units
new people 1 lot = 100 units


Added on August 28, 2012, 6:15 pmi do think that it is still worth to buy kassest to turn it to IGB reit..

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then what is your past success rate, let say out of 10-times?
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will it clash with astro?

should it clash, whcih is a better dividend payer? igb = 5-6% twice per year, astro????
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 28 2012, 08:09 PM)
Ok! Applied!

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 28 2012, 08:09 PM)
Ok! Applied!

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IGB REIT sees 5%-8% revenue, profit growth by Ho Ching-Ling of of theedgemalaysia.com

KUALA LUMPUR: The management for IGB Real Estate Investment Trust (IGB REIT) has estimated an annual growth of between 5% and 8% in revenue and bottom line for the company ahead of its listing on Sept 21.

IGB Corp Bhd group managing director Robert Tan told reporters at the launch of IGB REIT’s IPO prospectus yesterday that the group would look at optimising the rental and occupancy rates of the two properties under its management presently to drive returns for investors.

The two properties under IGB REIT are Mid Valley Megamall and The Gardens Mall. “Mid Valley Megamall and The Gardens Mall still have a long way to go in terms of bottom line. We have to make sure these two properties are well-managed so that investors will see a year-on-year growth,” Tan said.

According to the prospectus, IGB REIT forecasts total revenue for the six months ending Dec 31, 2012 to be RM197.8 million and RM408.1 million for the full year 2013.

Distributable income for the period ending Dec 31, 2012 and 2013 is forecast at RM108.7 million and RM230.5 million respectively.

Both malls will be acquired from IGB Corp subsidiary KrisAssets Holdings Bhd for RM4.61 billion, of which RM1.21 billion will be in cash and the rest in shares. Subsequently, the proceeds of the disposals will be distributed to KrisAssets shareholders at RM2.43 per share and 5.24 IGB REIT shares for each KrisAssets share.

Although, IGB REIT will only have Mid Valley Megamall and The Gardens Mall under its roof, it will also look at other developments such as IGB Corp’s latest venture, Southkey Megamall, to expand its portfolio.

“We [IGB Corp] recently signed an agreement for the development of Southkey Megamall in Johor. Eventually after three to five years from now, it will hopefully be pumped into IGB REIT,” said Tan. “We prefer to construct and manage the mall ourselves and inject it into the REIT once it is fully leased.”

Group chief financial officer Chai Lai Sim said it will also look at acquisitions both locally and overseas.

“We will not rule out acquisitions as well if the opportunities arise and if they blend with IGB REIT’s strategy. If there are opportunities we will consider them,” Chai said.

The listing will make IGB REIT the largest retail REIT in Malaysia by asset value and is set to raise some RM837.5 million from the offer of 670 million units at a retail price of RM1.25 per unit.

The offer price translates into a forecast annualised distribution yield of 5.1% for its remaining six months of 2012 and 5.37% for the full year 2013.

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QUOTE(ronnie @ Aug 28 2012, 05:51 PM)
Assume 1 lot = 1000 shares/units
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I always have problem when ppl talking about lot. I thought 1 lot = 100unit. My math fail.
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Actually you're not wrong. It was due to old and new lot size. In order not to mix it, pls use number of shares instead of lot.
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to avoid getting confius just mention how many shares u hv/applied.... Easy like that rite?
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You follow?
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Actually you're not wrong. It was due to old and new lot size. In order not to mix it, pls use number of shares instead of lot.
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I don't have problem when buy share which through online. It already state there _ x 100. So just key in and later will show the amount. Only when ppl here talking in lot, I get rclxub.gif .
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QUOTE(kb2005 @ Aug 28 2012, 06:49 PM)
3/10.
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aiya, just read the forum. should apply more... I am a newbie zzz, i just apply 2 lot = 200shares....zzz ><"...chances of gett is small small small?
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aiya, just read the forum. should apply more... I am a newbie zzz, i just apply 2 lot = 200shares....zzz ><"...chances of gett is small small small?
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2lot or 200shares  ? Is that a joke ?
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QUOTE(kb2005 @ Aug 29 2012, 12:28 AM)
2lot or 200shares  ? Is that a joke ?
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Added on August 29, 2012, 1:41 amgot any nice share?

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QUOTE(MrLoo @ Aug 28 2012, 11:43 PM)
aiya, just read the forum. should apply more... I am a newbie zzz, i just apply 2 lot = 200shares....zzz ><"...chances of gett is small small small?
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Ain't the IPO is balloting? The balloting see it as 1 applicant? Or 2 applicant per 100share = 2lot?


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2lot or 200shares  ? Is that a joke ?
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What is the entry quantity lot that suitable?

I thaught going apply for 100shares. tongue.gif

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old generation 1 lot = 1000 share
so sometimes talking to my dad need to do self converting first haha

anyway i had just applied!
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南洋财经新闻 2012-08-28

隶属怡保花园(IGB,1597,主板产业股)的怡保花园产托(IGBREIT),上市后预计将成为我国最大型的购物商场产托。

怡保花园产托管理私人有限公司董事经理陈俊明表示,以怡保花园产托资产值和市值计算,怡保花园产托将成为全国最大型购物商场产托。

“上市后,资产值近46亿令吉,市值料达42亿5000万令吉,成为国内最大型的购物商场产托。”

陈俊明在今日的招股书推介礼记者会上,发表上述言论。

超越双威产托

上市后,怡保花园产托市值和资产值将超越双威产托(Sunreit,5176,主板产业信托股)。目前,双威产托资产值约为37亿2900万令吉。

怡保花园产托计划公开发售34亿个单位,以每单位1.25令吉计算,总市值达到42亿5000万令吉。

其中供公众认购的部份有6亿7000万个单位,或相等于19.7%,共筹集8亿3750万令吉。

联昌国际投资银行与丰隆投资银行是这项公开售股活动的联合首席顾问,以及联合主要包销商。

新山打造Southkey Megamall

陈俊明表示,近期与Selia Pantai私人有限公司签署协议,计划在柔佛新山打造一座大型零售广场和综合产业,名为SouthkeyMegamall发展计划。

“这项发展计划预计耗时3至5年,冀望未来可将SouthkeyMegamall注入怡保花园产托。不过,目前我们将着重提升谷中城美佳广场和TheGardens广场的服务。

“我们不排除会考虑日后收购欧洲、美国还有其他国家资产。”

陈俊明预测,怡保花园产托2012年资产组合的营业额料将取得8%至10%的增长。

100%派息

“怡保花园产托截至2011年12月杪财年,旗下资产组合(包括谷中城美佳广场和The Gardens广场)营业总额为3亿7540万令吉,净产业收入(NPI)约2亿5040万令吉。”

同时,怡保花园产托计划成立期间至2014年年杪,派发100%的可分配收入予股东,并在较后每半年派发90%可分配收入。

怡保花园产托首次派息将涵盖上市至截至2012年12月31日财年期间,并将在2012财年两个月后派息。

陈俊明指出,若以1.25令吉的散户售价来计算,怡保花园产托的分红回酬预计为5.1%,截至今年12月杪的6个月则为5.4%。

针对上市筹得资金的用途,怡保花园产托管理私人有限公司总财务长谢丽婵表示:“我们预计将所筹得资金现金回退予股东,但这有待怡保花园来跟进这项事宜。”

怡保花园产托首次公开献售

●散户认购日期:27/8/2012
●散户认购截止日期:4/9/2012
●机构认购日期:28/8/2012
●机构认购截止日期:6/9/2012
●抽签日期:7/9/2012
●配股日期:20/9/2012
●预计挂牌日期:21/9/2012

怡保花园产托资产

谷中城美佳广场(Mid Valley Megamall)

●5层楼高拥有1楼夹层的零售购物广场,2层楼的地下停车场以及4层楼的停车场
●一站式购物中心,集454个单位的租户,为本地和外地的家庭与旅客带来生活享乐的好去处
●包括18个放映院的电影院,以及将近6万6395平方尺的展览会场
●截至今年4月10日的评估价值:34亿4000万令吉
●截至今年5月31日的净可租用面积(NLA):171万8951平方尺
●截至今年5月31日的出租率:99.8%
●截至今年5月31日的停车位:6092个

The Gardens广场

●楼高8层的零售商场,拥有4层楼的地下停车场和4层楼的高架停车场
●拥有209个单位的租户,专攻高收入、本地和海外游客的高档服装商场‧包括7个放映院的电影院(GSC Signature)
●截至今年4月10日的评估价值:11亿6000万令吉
●截至今年5月31日的净可租用面积(NLA):81万7053平方尺●截至今年5月31日的出租率:99.7%
●截至今年5月31日的停车位:4128个


备注:(1)截至2012年5月31日。
(2)科技资产(KAssets,6653,主板产业股)一旦完成资产脱售和资本分配后,托管人即刻持有怡保花园产托单位。
(3)在科技资产的资本分配下,保荐商将按比例配额,以及保荐商在科技资产的已扩大股本内的股权结构来推测得到的分配单位。
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QUOTE(potenza10 @ Aug 29 2012, 10:41 AM)
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Not enough buying house is it? IPO also want sapu... wink.gif
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Not enough buying house is it? IPO also want sapu...  wink.gif
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Applied some small lots, hope can get it.
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Owhh sh*t..just realized I bought using nominee CDS account instead of direct account thru M2U...haizzzzzzzz...
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QUOTE(potenza10 @ Aug 29 2012, 01:29 PM)
Owhh sh*t..just realized I bought using nominee CDS account instead of direct account thru M2U...haizzzzzzzz...
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It will be rejected and reverse the funds for you... not sure you can get the RM1 e-IPO transaction fee
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QUOTE(potenza10 @ Aug 29 2012, 01:29 PM)
Owhh sh*t..just realized I bought using nominee CDS account instead of direct account thru M2U...haizzzzzzzz...
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Cannot bro... Go to dataran Maybank bangsar, less than 1 hour can get your CDS..
Fast-fast email to MIB customer service to claim back your money so you can use back that money to re-apply..


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QUOTE(potenza10 @ Aug 29 2012, 11:28 AM)
I bought a house for my own stay maaaa....not like you  notworthy.gif
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I bought house for others to stay maa.. wink.gif

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It will be rejected and reverse the funds for you... not sure you can get the RM1 e-IPO transaction fee
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RM1? mine is RM2... diff bank got different fee?  hmm.gif
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Maybank's e-IPO charges RM1 only.

http://www.maybank2u.com.my/mbb_info/m2u/p.../INV-Investment

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Cannot bro... Go to dataran Maybank bangsar, less than 1 hour can get your CDS..
Fast-fast email to MIB customer service to claim back your money so you can use back that money to re-apply..


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I bought house for others to stay maa..  wink.gif
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actually I apply 2 account, one nominee and one direct.didn't realized the account num in the email from HLE is nominee account..how to claim back fast fast? need to go to maybank or just email?
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actually I apply 2 account, one nominee and one direct.didn't realized the account num in the email from HLE is nominee account..how to claim back fast fast? need to go to maybank or just email?
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regret din buy pasukan gerak khas...hope can goreng this 1 till 200++%%
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QUOTE(potenza10 @ Aug 29 2012, 02:59 PM)
actually I apply 2 account, one nominee and one direct.didn't realized the account num in the email from HLE is nominee account..how to claim back fast fast? need to go to maybank or just email?
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2acc under same person or different person?. If under sameperson comfirm it will be disqualified... all the best...
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2acc under same person or different person?. If under sameperson comfirm it will be disqualified... all the best...
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anyhow, still have to go to maybank to cancel my buying because of wrong number account..

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so many ppl apply. i think i have no chance, luck always not good lol
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will it hit oversubscribe 100++ times??
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I don't think so bro , Pavillion REIT only 7.5 times , I hardly doubt IGB REIT can get 100+
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astro IPO when?

applied IGB liao, go back pray god so can get
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astro IPO when?

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Ok! Applied!

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Normally how much we can get after allotment? 50% of our subscription?
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Hi All,

I was reading IGBReits(page 105) not able understand FPE2011 & FY2011. Anybody can share ?
The Gross rental Income so big difference ?





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I don't think so bro , Pavillion REIT only 7.5 times , I hardly doubt IGB REIT can get 100+
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Hi, can someone confirm the last day to apply for IGB IPO is Sept 4?
And when will the money be refunded for unsuccessful applicant?

Also, any idea when will Astro IPO be available for application?
It was stated that it will list end Sept, means date not finalized?
Hope IGB and Astro IPOs do not clash together.

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Applied few just for fun. Get or not no worries because it's a game & my focus is upcoming astro ipo which some "little bird" say will opened after IGB reit closes the retail application. True or not I'm not sure hmm.gif
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Aug 30 2012, 01:57 PM)
Applied few just for fun. Get or not no worries because it's a game & my focus is upcoming astro ipo which some "little bird" say will opened after IGB reit closes the retail application. True or not I'm not sure hmm.gif
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TO ALL Bro,

Just share info that i have study

Based on indicative IPO offer price of RM1.25/ share,

Each Kassets share will receive 5.24 units of IGB Reits and approximately RM2.73 cash, which bring the total distribution value per Kassets share to RM9.30

Invest or not, up to u
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Is that mean whatever price/share we bought will get back RM2.73/share in cash and exchange for 5.24units of IGB share for 1unit Kassets share?

Kindly elaborate more.. notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(davinz18 @ Aug 30 2012, 01:57 PM)
Applied few just for fun. Get or not no worries because it's a game & my focus is upcoming astro ipo which some "little bird" say will opened after IGB reit closes the retail application. True or not I'm not sure hmm.gif
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Do u know when will the money be refunded for unsuccessful IGB IPO applicants?


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Do u know when will the money be refunded for unsuccessful IGB IPO applicants?
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Maybank IPO FAQS

11. How many days will it take to credit my account if my share application is unsuccessful?
Your account will be credited within 2 working days after we receive the transaction status from the issuing house.
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This morning I went to Maybank to cancel my buy for this IPO...and now the money already reimbursed back to my account...can apply again smile.gif
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QUOTE(Darkcursed @ Aug 30 2012, 02:43 PM)
Maybank IPO FAQS

11. How many days will it take to credit my account if my share application is unsuccessful?
Your account will be credited within 2 working days after we receive the transaction status from the issuing house.
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Thanks, below are details for the IPO:

IGB REIT IPO
IGB REIT IPO price RM 1.25
Opening of application 27/08/2012
Closing of application 04/09/2012
Balloting of applications 07/09/2012
Allotment of IPO shares to successful applicants 20/09/2012
Tentative listing date 21/09/2012

Balloting of applications is 07/09/2012, so can we get back the refund by 10/09/2012?
Or need to wait after the allotment i.e 20/09/2012?

Can anyone confirm?
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got a question, it say " to open CDS account"
what does this mean?
saw it when i wanna apply for this IPO.

does it mean my cds account number?
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QUOTE(ky118 @ Aug 30 2012, 03:09 PM)
Balloting of applications is 07/09/2012, so can we get back the refund by 10/09/2012?
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This morning I went to Maybank to cancel my buy for this IPO...and now the money already reimbursed back to my account...can apply again smile.gif
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Why you want to cancel and apply again ?
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got a question, it say " to open CDS account"
what does this mean?
saw it when i wanna apply for this IPO thru maybank.
first timer ma..

does it mean my cds account number?
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can anyone enlighten me?
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I dont know how to answer your question but in simple just read the FAQs

If you wanna trade in KLSE,you need a CDS account,go to any investment bank etc etc,they will open 1 for you.

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Why you want to cancel and apply again ?
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i cancelled it because previously i key in nominee account number instead of direct account number...

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Do u know when will the money be refunded for unsuccessful IGB IPO applicants?
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10 or 11 sept (mon or tues) in your bank account just nice for applying astro ipo (if open on sept 5th onwards)


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Does anyone know the PAR value for IGB Reit ?
Thanks in advance.
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Does anyone know the PAR value for IGB Reit ?
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Instead of looking at PAR value, why don't you look at Net Asset per share? PAR value got what usage to you?

BTW, its PAR value is RM1

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Instead of looking at PAR value, why don't you look at Net Asset per share? PAR value got what usage to you?

BTW, its PAR value is RM1
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Par value is a very simple but illusory things.
only an accountant can explain to another accountant about par value reduction.

Par value is used ONLY on IPO ... where the need to give a label to the share.
the value is just a "nominal" value.
Nominal mean as symbol or just a label.

So, u must study the accounting of IPO financial statement,
see how the key in the equity part.

For par value reduction,
u must download any stock with par value reduction
and see the changes of their balance sheet item before and after the reduction.

Mind u, i am not an accountant.

Thanks btw smile.gif
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For Kassets holders, how long to wait to get their IGBReit shares? notworthy.gif

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QUOTE(ky118 @ Aug 30 2012, 03:09 PM)
Thanks, below are details for the IPO:

IGB REIT IPO
IGB REIT IPO price RM 1.25
Opening of application  27/08/2012
Closing of application 04/09/2012
Balloting of applications  07/09/2012
Allotment of IPO shares to successful applicants 20/09/2012
Tentative listing date  21/09/2012

Balloting of applications is 07/09/2012, so can we get back the refund by 10/09/2012?
Or need to wait after the allotment i.e 20/09/2012?

Can anyone confirm?
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For Kassets holders, how long to wait to get their IGBReit shares?  notworthy.gif
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Last time I read is, approx one month after IGBR list.

Something like you "own" the share but you can't sell it for that one month. unsure.gif
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QUOTE(5w4tch @ Aug 30 2012, 07:52 PM)
Par value is a very simple but illusory things.
only an accountant can explain to another accountant about par value reduction.

Par value is used ONLY on IPO ... where the need to give a label to the share.
the value is just a "nominal" value.
Nominal mean as symbol or just a label.

So, u must study the accounting of IPO financial statement,
see how the key in the equity part.

For par value reduction,
u must download any stock with par value reduction
and see the changes of their balance sheet item before and after the reduction.

Mind u, i am not an accountant.

Thanks btw smile.gif
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Huh? Thought you were the 1 who asked about PAR value but now you are trying to answer something although i did not ask what PAR value are? Weird.
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Aug 31 2012, 07:48 AM)
Last time I read is, approx one month after IGBR list.

Something like you "own" the share but you can't sell it for that one month. unsure.gif
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One month is not too bad. If 6 months then I rugi those dividend already. biggrin.gif
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Hi All,

  I was reading IGBReits(page 105) not able understand FPE2011 & FY2011. Anybody can share ?
  The Gross rental Income so big difference ?
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FP is financial Period, can be anything up to the FY (Financial Year), in this case the FP only 3 months.
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after allotment.
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Huh? Thought you were the 1 who asked about PAR value but now you are trying to answer something although i did not ask what PAR value are? Weird.
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Dear H86 , I asked how much is the PAR value for IGB REIT , and you asked why did I need it ?

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in again. Pray hard and hope can get it this time. Was really fed up that failed to get the pasukgbunga!!
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Can get it in open market right?
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Can get it in open market right?
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Can I apply the eIPO few time? Mean few transaction instead of 1 transaction?
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Can. But is better if you can apply more on one transactions. Chance to secure it might be higher....

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Can I apply the eIPO few time? Mean few transaction instead of 1 transaction?
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It's illegal !!! All your application will be REJECTED.
One name per IC per IPO applied

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» Read the IPO prospectus. Be an informed investor. 
» Read all the instructions printed on the application form. 
» Ensure that the application form and envelopes are completed as required. 
» State the number of shares applied for (Remember the digits '00' are already pre-printed). 
» Ensure that correct remittances are attached (Distinguish between par value and subscription price of IPO shares). 
» Indicate whether Bumiputra or non-Bumiputra applications.
» Enclose a legible copy of your identity card (both sides). 
» State your CDS account in full. It is mandatory. 
» Sign the application form and countersign all amendments. 
» Insert Envelope A in Envelope B. Affix appropriate postage on Envelope A & B. If hand delivery is desired, only Envelope A is required and Envelope B may be discarded. 
» Register with your Bank or Internet Participating Financial Institution for Electronic Share Application or Internet Share Application for convenient share application. 
» Mail or deliver by hand early. 

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» Do not use another person's name for your application.
» Do not take more application forms than required. Help eliminate wastage. 
» Do not apply more than once. Multiple applications is an offence. 
» Do not use another person's CDS account. 
» Do not use a nominee's CDS account. 
» Do not wait until the last minute to mail, make an Electronic Share Application or Internet Share Application or hand deliver your application. Allow for postal delay, traffic congestion, ATM queues or internet congestions.

http://www.mih.com.my/index.php?page=do

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QUOTE(livelifefull @ Sep 2 2012, 12:32 AM)
Can. But is better if you can apply more on one transactions. Chance to secure it might be higher....
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Is the amount of 1 transaction is higher over quantity of transaction?


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It's illegal !!! All your application will be REJECTED.
One name per IC per IPO applied
http://www.mih.com.my/index.php?page=do
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First time I apply through m2u online eIPO. So not sure several or 1 transaction can.

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cant do multiple application thru m2u, i guess...
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cant do multiple application thru m2u, i guess...
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I tried before,M2U's system deny for multiple application,
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I tried before,M2U's system deny for multiple  application,
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As ronnie has explained, it's illegal to apply more than once. The system denying you to do something wrong also you furious?
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I tried before,M2U's system deny for multiple  application,
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Cant do multiple application by using same name... If u want to do so, can use ur wife's, son's, sister's name... Or someone that can be trusted.... smile.gif
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QUOTE(zitis @ Sep 2 2012, 10:49 AM)
Cant do multiple application by using same name... If u want to do so, can use ur wife's, son's, sister's name... Or someone that can be trusted.... smile.gif
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can we apply thru diffrnt CDS account name but from same source of money??
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QUOTE(ronnie @ Sep 2 2012, 01:13 AM)
It's illegal !!! All your application will be REJECTED.
One name per IC per IPO applied
http://www.mih.com.my/index.php?page=do
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Oppss. Story for my posted then. As I thought I have seen can reduce and increase share application on my bank page. Maybe was a mistake. I'm sorry!!
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QUOTE(zitis @ Sep 2 2012, 10:49 AM)
Cant do multiple application by using same name... If u want to do so, can use ur wife's, son's, sister's name... Or someone that can be trusted.... smile.gif
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That's very true. Lot of ppl doing so. Whole family name also in there if want higher chance.
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can we apply thru diffrnt CDS account name but from same source of money??
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m2u system deny for that mad.gif
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The last date to submit is 4th sep right?

Man, my fund is not fast enough to transfer. sweat.gif
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6k + 4k lot apllied....
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6k + 4k lot apllied....
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QUOTE(snake_eye @ Sep 2 2012, 08:29 PM)
6k + 4k lot apllied....
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That is how much? Sorry. I m noob in this lot thingy.
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huh !! correct me if i am wrong, so I can't apply 2 times in maybank e-ipo for 2 CDS account under diff names?
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That is how much? Sorry. I m noob in this lot thingy.
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6k = 6000 shares
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huh !! correct me if i am wrong, so I can't apply 2 times in maybank e-ipo for 2 CDS account under diff names?
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What is the problem with 2 CDS account under 2 different names to apply IPO in each account? No problem in it unless both CDS account are the same account holder.
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What is the problem with 2 CDS account under 2 different names to apply IPO in each account? No problem in it unless both CDS account are the same account holder.
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alrite... thanks for confirmation..
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6k = 6000 shares
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I thought he said 6k+4k lot ? If my calculation correct 1lot = 100share. 10k lot x 100share = 1mil share. Or rm1.25mil?
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QUOTE(ozak @ Sep 2 2012, 11:53 PM)
I thought he said 6k+4k lot ?  If my calculation correct 1lot = 100share. 10k lot x 100share = 1mil share.  Or rm1.25mil?
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QUOTE(minshome @ Sep 2 2012, 09:42 PM)
huh !! correct me if i am wrong, so I can't apply 2 times in maybank e-ipo for 2 CDS account under diff names?
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I tried before,like what you said, the system deny for the multi-aplications
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There's a rule which you agree that the CDS account belongs to YOU when applying for IPO.
I've just submitted my IPO application... I hope I can get it.
I was suprise there's no RM1 charged at point of application.

IGB REIT IPO Closing Date is 4 Sep 2012
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seems this IGBreit is too 'hot'...even my friends / aunty / colleagues open a trading account because they want to get it.

lets says the price shoot up to 1.35(or even higher) and assuming the DPU FY 2013 is 6.54 sen ( according to the prospectus ) ,its dividend yield is merely 4.8 %.The D/Y is at below average if compare to other MReit...Furthermore it is trading at 25% above its NTA.. sweat.gif


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well bro, they are paying it half-yearly at 5-6% till 2012/2013. So its still good for a year's+ keeping for divvy. Nonetheless, this REIT with its (midvalley city) seems really too promising even for the next 10 years + IGB have another megamall project in Iskandar as well.
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QUOTE(ozak @ Sep 2 2012, 05:44 PM)
The last date to submit is 4th sep right?

Man, my fund is not fast enough to transfer. sweat.gif
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up the ante b4 closing

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Fair value 1.45 - by TA Research...
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QUOTE(zitis @ Sep 3 2012, 02:46 PM)
Fair value 1.45 - by TA Research...
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still thinking which one suits best for my cash-flow: between 20,100 or the next range.
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QUOTE(katesamsung @ Aug 8 2012, 12:44 AM)
Bro,

when Pav Reits IPO listing early of the year, it's only 0.88 sen...look at in now....Today already RM1.36

For ur info ,

Mid Valley is one the hottest Retail Mall in Malaysia, high traffic, and still got room to growth...

I think IGB Reits given time will be ROOM ROOM ROOOMM>>>>all the way

Invest or not..up to u all

BTW for ur info,

U can get this IGB Reits below IPO price , the parent company KASSETS closed to RM8.74 equivalent to 1.20 IGB REITS......so grap it before to late.......
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May i know how u measure this parent company KASSETS RM8.74 is equivalent to RM1.20? Today KASSETS is Rm9.10, so where's position value for IGB Reit today?
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Sep 3 2012, 03:45 PM)
still thinking which one suits best for my cash-flow:  between 20,100 or the next range.
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Bro, reports says demand cover the top ranges. lol. alot ppl are applying for 1 million units above, >500001
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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Sep 3 2012, 06:27 PM)
Research Paper by Alliance.
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Fair value 1.45 - by TA Research...
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QUOTE(ozak @ Sep 2 2012, 09:31 PM)
That is how much? Sorry. I m noob in this lot thingy.
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6000 units + 4000 units...
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I try to apply thru M2U eshare. After press confirm, unsuccess apply message comeout. " Unsuccessful - Account is not authorised. Reject code: [0076] "

What it mean? I have put in the CDS acc. no. already. This cds acc. no. is usually I use to invest.
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QUOTE(ozak @ Sep 3 2012, 09:37 PM)
I try to apply thru M2U eshare. After press confirm, unsuccess apply message comeout. " Unsuccessful - Account is not authorised. Reject code: [0076] "

What it mean? I have put in the CDS acc. no. already. This cds acc. no. is usually I use to invest.
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Have you retry at different time to re-submit the eIPO??
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QUOTE(ronnie @ Sep 3 2012, 10:02 PM)
Have you retry at different time to re-submit the eIPO??
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I m trying few time already. All same Status. But just try apply half hr ago.
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Can I apply eShare via M2U but to my father's CDS account?
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public offer (IPO) only 34,000,000 unit , which is 1 % of the total unit.

So IMO the chance of getting this IPO is really SLIM.

who knows you may be the lucky one smile.gif
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QUOTE(echoesian @ Sep 3 2012, 10:15 PM)
Can I apply eShare via M2U but to my father's CDS account?
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Cannot..

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QUOTE(abgkik @ Sep 3 2012, 10:29 PM)
Cannot..
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Why? M2U will check against the saving account holder?
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QUOTE(zamans98 @ Sep 3 2012, 03:45 PM)
still thinking which one suits best for my cash-flow:  between 20,100 or the next range.
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Me also still thinking how much to apply.. hmm.gif due to cash flow..
With slim chance, need to apply more unit..


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Why? M2U will check against the saving account holder?
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CDS account holder=Saving account holder

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QUOTE(abgkik @ Sep 3 2012, 10:33 PM)
CDS account holder=Saving account holder
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You mean the CDS acc. no same as saving acc?

I have error in applying the eshare. Don't no what is the problem.
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QUOTE(ozak @ Sep 3 2012, 10:38 PM)
You mean the CDS acc. no same as saving acc?

I have error in applying the eshare. Don't no what is the problem.
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Bank Accunt name and CDS a/c name must be the same. Otherwise got rejected as they will have problem in cases of any refund later. and also clearance.

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what are the chances of getting the ipo... sad.gif

guess have to wait for the balloting to see the breakdown in the IPO application and allocation

tmrw last day better faster apply using electronic means smile.gif
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QUOTE(ozak @ Sep 3 2012, 09:37 PM)
I try to apply thru M2U eshare. After press confirm, unsuccess apply message comeout. " Unsuccessful - Account is not authorised. Reject code: [0076] "

What it mean? I have put in the CDS acc. no. already. This cds acc. no. is usually I use to invest.
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Refer to http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2472521
Possibly to many transfers being sent to the MIH for eIPO.... thus never wait for last minute to apply.
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QUOTE(rosdi1 @ Sep 3 2012, 11:05 PM)
Bank Accunt name and CDS a/c name must be the same. Otherwise got rejected as they will have problem in cases of any refund later. and also clearance.
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Yes. it is same. My acc and my cds acc is same name. I even try my 2 trading acc. All 2 reject as state " Unsuccessful - Account is not authorised. Reject code: [0076] "

Strange. rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(ozak @ Sep 3 2012, 11:20 PM)
Yes. it is same. My acc and my cds acc is same name. I even try my 2 trading acc. All 2 reject as state " Unsuccessful - Account is not authorised. Reject code: [0076] "

Strange. rclxub.gif
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MIH is overloaded....
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QUOTE(JinXXX @ Sep 3 2012, 11:11 PM)
what are the chances of getting the ipo... sad.gif

guess have to wait for the balloting to see the breakdown in the IPO application and allocation

tmrw last day better faster apply using electronic means smile.gif
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Aiya, Already try. First step apply already no luck. cry.gif


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Refer to http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2472521
Possibly to many transfers being sent to the MIH for eIPO.... thus never wait for last minute to apply.
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What can do. Fund just enough accumulate today.

I even suspect no night transaction. Only working hr?

Will try again later. Still cannot, try tommorow morning.

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QUOTE(ozak @ Sep 3 2012, 11:21 PM)
Aiya, Already try. First step apply already no luck.  cry.gif
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have account on different brokers ?
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QUOTE(JinXXX @ Sep 3 2012, 11:26 PM)
have account on different brokers ?
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Nope. Just have 1 online broker with 2 trading acc. Suspect it is not my side problem.

Have ask my wife try on her trading acc. Same problem as mind.
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QUOTE(ozak @ Sep 3 2012, 11:33 PM)
Nope. Just have 1 online broker with 2 trading acc. Suspect it is not my side problem.

Have ask my wife try on her trading acc. Same problem as mind.
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which broker are you using ??

i just applied just now last minute... with cimb/eipo.. can jalan paid via mb2u direct debit

no problem....
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QUOTE(JinXXX @ Sep 3 2012, 11:34 PM)
which broker are you using ??

i just applied just now last minute... with cimb/eipo.. can jalan paid via mb2u direct debit

no problem....
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M2U. I have cimb acc. But no trading acc. Can kah?
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QUOTE(ozak @ Sep 3 2012, 11:39 PM)
M2U. I have cimb acc. But no trading acc. Can kah?
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CIMB or MBB is where the cash is to start eIPO application... CDS account can be with any broker (must be direct CDS, not nominee CDS)
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QUOTE(ozak @ Sep 3 2012, 11:39 PM)
M2U. I have cimb acc. But no trading acc. Can kah?
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no trading account sure cannot la.. IPO need accounts that is tied with a direct cds account smile.gif heheheh

well still got 1 day.. unless can find broker that can open account and get CDS number by 4pm smile.gif
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QUOTE(JinXXX @ Sep 3 2012, 11:41 PM)
no trading account sure cannot la.. IPO need accounts that is tied with a direct cds account smile.gif heheheh

well still got 1 day.. unless can find broker that can open account and get CDS number by 4pm smile.gif
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Sucess. rclxms.gif

Just now try use CIMB acc. and apply the eIPO. Than use the M2U CDS acc. no. Success apply. Ya.

Thanks jinxxx for highlight the CIMB. He... notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(JinXXX @ Sep 3 2012, 11:41 PM)
no trading account sure cannot la.. IPO need accounts that is tied with a direct cds account smile.gif heheheh
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Who told you that ???? ozak have a DIRECT CDS account with MBB ... don't have direct CDS with CIMB
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QUOTE(ronnie @ Sep 3 2012, 11:50 PM)
Who told you that ???? ozak have a DIRECT CDS account with MBB ... don't have direct CDS with CIMB
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?? what are you trying to imply ??


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Sucess.  rclxms.gif

Just now try use CIMB acc. and apply the eIPO. Than use the M2U CDS acc. no. Success apply. Ya.

Thanks jinxxx for highlight the CIMB. He...  notworthy.gif
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so 30k units ? or 100k units ? or 60k units ? hehehehhe all the best smile.gif this friday

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QUOTE(JinXXX @ Sep 3 2012, 11:52 PM)
?? what are you trying to imply ??


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so 30k units ? or 100k units ? or 60k units ? hehehehhe all the best smile.gif this friday
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You didn't read ozak previous comments properly... that's all, and your response was incorrect in reference ozak actual question.
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QUOTE(ronnie @ Sep 3 2012, 11:55 PM)
You didn't read ozak previous comments properly... that's all, and your response was incorrect in reference ozak actual question.
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oh thought why you like marah marah me....

anyway i also dont know what your trying to say also im just blurrrr.... sad.gif
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Good luck to everyone.... IGB REIT eIPO closing at 4-Sep-2012 @ 5pm (GMT+8)
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QUOTE(ronnie @ Sep 3 2012, 11:50 PM)
Who told you that ???? ozak have a DIRECT CDS account with MBB ... don't have direct CDS with CIMB
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For M2U trading at online stock, need a trading acc link to CDS acc. Any fund transfer to this trading acc, can be buy stock online.

But unsuccess for eIPO.

Try out luck on CIMB just now. But using current acc. to apply for the eIPO. Success apply. I don't have trading acc in CIMB.
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QUOTE(ozak @ Sep 4 2012, 12:00 AM)
Try out luck on CIMB just now. But using current acc. to apply for the eIPO. Success apply. I don't have trading acc in CIMB.
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if they have place for you to enter the CDS account number then ok..

if not then problem...
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QUOTE(JinXXX @ Sep 3 2012, 11:52 PM)
?? what are you trying to imply ??


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so 30k units ? or 100k units ? or 60k units ? hehehehhe all the best smile.gif this friday
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200 x 100unit. He... tongue.gif Another round tommorow at my wife acc. Finger cross.


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if they have place for you to enter the CDS account number then ok..

if not then problem...
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Ya got. So now learn something about eIPO. Apply eIPO using any acc. is possible. Not neccessary trading acc.

But cimb fee higher. rm2.50. While M2U rm1.00.

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QUOTE(ozak @ Sep 4 2012, 12:03 AM)
But cimb fee higher. rm2.50. While M2U rm1.00.
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When does the RM1.00 get deducted from your MBB account ? Mine still not deducted (Applied on 3 Sep)
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When does the RM1.00 get deducted from your MBB account ? Mine still not deducted (Applied on 3 Sep)
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The MBB apply unsuccess. So no deduction.

CIMB success. But didn't check the deduction. Only saw the fee cost rm2.50.
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QUOTE(ozak @ Sep 4 2012, 12:13 AM)
The MBB apply unsuccess. So no deduction.

CIMB success. But didn't check the deduction. Only saw the fee cost rm2.50.
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My Status shows Pending.... is that successfully applied ?
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if apply thru m2u, the status should be 'pending' thus no deduction whatsoever yet...correct me if i'm wrong.

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My Status shows Pending.... is that successfully applied ?
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Not sure the M2U. Try few time still unsuccess. But the cimb show status : success.
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QUOTE(potenza10 @ Sep 4 2012, 08:11 AM)
if apply thru m2u, the status should be 'pending' thus no deduction whatsoever yet...correct me if i'm wrong.
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Did my application get accepted actually ? Funds was deducted from my CASA.
Does the RM1 get deducted upon successful IPO application only ?

I'm still a IPO newbie....
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Did my application get accepted actually ? Funds was deducted from my CASA.
Does the RM1 get deducted upon successful IPO application only ?

I'm still a IPO newbie....
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RM1 is deduct once you applied in m2u no matter u success or not.
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yes... deducted Rm1...

so if 7th Sep failed to get it after balloting, will the refund also kena Rm1 fees again?

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QUOTE(cscheat @ Sep 4 2012, 08:58 AM)
yes... deducted Rm1...

so if 7th Sep failed to get it after balloting, will the refund also kena Rm1 fees again?
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RM1 is deduct once you applied in m2u no matter u success or not.
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Is the RM1 deducted at the same time the Maybank eIPO application is made ?
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so will take how many days for refund process?


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so will take how many days for refund process?
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a few days after balloting... icon_rolleyes.gif
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Last day to apply. A friendly reminder to all IPO fans. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(cscheat @ Sep 4 2012, 09:15 AM)
so will take how many days for refund process?
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2-3 working days after 7-Sep-2012
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Is the RM1 deducted at the same time the Maybank eIPO application is made ?
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yes...
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applied some.. hopefully can get..
the balloting day is on 7-Sept?
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post Sep 4 2012, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(minshome @ Sep 4 2012, 09:33 AM)
yes...
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I'm surprised that my CASA wasn't deducted RM1 when I applied on Monday (13-Sep)
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post Sep 4 2012, 09:44 AM

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KASSETS now stands at 9.17. So, will this affect IGB Reit price once listed?
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post Sep 4 2012, 09:59 AM

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QUOTE(ronnie @ Sep 4 2012, 09:43 AM)
I'm surprised that my CASA wasn't deducted RM1 when I applied on Monday (13-Sep)
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u can check at your account's transaction page..deducted rm1.i just check it myself.. tongue.gif
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post Sep 4 2012, 10:18 AM

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QUOTE(potenza10 @ Sep 4 2012, 10:59 AM)
u can check at your account's transaction page..deducted rm1.i just check it myself.. tongue.gif
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The RM1 is added to the amount that you applied. Let's say u apply for 1k unit, total amount is 1250. So the RM1 is added to become like 1251 in your account transaction history.
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Saya belum apply lagi. Tapi sudah ada news oversubscribe. wink.gif


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