All these bike survey and I forgot about essential clothings, hahahahhahahahahhaa.

Shoes, helmets and shorts. Jersey and glasses will remain as luxuries, time to look at other options as the essentials aren't cheap.

You could get Merida carbon bike for ~5k for 2012 model and below I think. Go carbon dude. Save your money from frame upgrading in the future..

The only alloy bike that is worth looking for is from specialized..I read that somewhere in bike magazine reviews..

This post has been edited by mrjgx: Nov 1 2012, 05:34 PM

hard sell merida nih... they give you commission is it?? ahaha.

This post has been edited by butthead: Nov 1 2012, 05:45 PM

Heard that BMC SR01 is not in 2013 lineup..so any chance bicycle shop will sell it cheaper now?

BMC dealership is changing hands now.. so the new dealer might not have street racer while the old one might have... it depends if they want to get rid of stock....

since they won't have to deal with an influx of new stock due to not being the official dealer anymore and also there is no more street racer... i don't think they are pressed to sell what they have in hand at this time...

This post has been edited by butthead: Nov 1 2012, 05:44 PM

Haha. No commission for sure. But I'm recommending based on my own experience as someone who started cycling very recently.

No doubt carbon is preferable and for usual beginners's budget, I think only Merida brand is available. Well to each his own

Plus, the after sales service with the lbs is very good. That is one thing you have to look for as well.

Just wondering what the cool part about aligator I-links cables?

I decided to go to visit physio/bike fitter to sort out my odd problem. Hope it does solve everthing man.

Anyway, proper fitting = can ride bicycle for many hours?

Wa, TCR Advanced 0 Di2 for 10k-ish ringgit/3000AUD ? Worth it ar? My current lbs did not have any bike with this feature at that price range, should i jump ship for this shop?

Do you guys stick to just one lbs or go to other shop too?

This post has been edited by minizian: Nov 1 2012, 06:25 PM

[quote=butthead,Nov 1 2012, 05:12 PM]
why not you tell us what you have over there and we tell you what we think? no point telling you stuff that you can't get...

the el-cheapo yet still reputable brands will be polygon, merida... scott a bit upscale but like ryan3721 posted... only a RM500 over your budget...
because i no p2k member

there's polygon exitway specialized fuji giant merida and a few others which is over my budget.
So right now the only one that is in my budget is exitway or polygon.

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Added on November 1, 2012, 6:08 pm[quote=butthead,Nov 1 2012, 05:12 PM]
why not you tell us what you have over there and we tell you what we think? no point telling you stuff that you can't get...

the el-cheapo yet still reputable brands will be polygon, merida... scott a bit upscale but like ryan3721 posted... only a RM500 over your budget...
because i no p2k member

there's polygon exitway specialized fuji giant merida and a few others which is over my budget.
So right now the only one that is in my budget is exitway or polygon.


This post has been edited by arashyie: Nov 1 2012, 06:08 PM

haha... there is other brands with carbon at that price... stepdragon, tw26 and the likes... but, i won't recommend those brands... merida is still way reputable...

even scott i believe has a tiagra equipped carbon frame at 6k range...

i'll axe exitway... specialize is most likely too expensive...

consider polygon, fuji, giant and merida...

merida should have the race or ride lite 900 or 901 that is in range...jus dun expect much from those bikes...

This post has been edited by butthead: Nov 1 2012, 06:35 PM

Carbon frames do have its grade no? Lol....upgrades are inevitable once you kena racun.

Yes thre is diffrent carbon grade man Its better off buy the best euqipment your budget allowed first place as upgrade are more expensives

spend a little bit more than ur budget. maybe rm500 more, or 10% more. spend now, u won't regret later.

This post has been edited by miaopurr: Nov 1 2012, 07:22 PM

salesman level asian...

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Added on November 1, 2012, 7:58 pmnothing can help but study and understanding it yourself...

http://www.calfeedesign.com/tech-papers/gr...f-carbon-fiber/

the grade of the carbon cloth is not all... knowing how to lay layers of this cloth in the right place and the right direction is the key to making a stiff and light frame... doing it even better will make a frame that is stiff, light and yielding to the correct forces in the right place...

of course there are other factors like the epoxy / resin, how the tubes are bonded and baked, inflation bladders to keep the inside of tubes smooth and creating internal ribs along the tubes to increase strength... cycling is still learning CF and could learn a lot more from the autosports industry like F1 which is way advanced and almost rivaling the aerospace industry..

this is detailed in the piece by cervelo, i believe written by damon rinnard

http://www.cervelo.com/en/engineering/ask-...of-modulus.html

This post has been edited by butthead: Nov 1 2012, 07:58 PM

Just wondering if giant is well supported in kl as Spez or pinarrelo or time bike? Or is it just small fry like trek?

Was still shopping around for my next bike..... Shortlisted Giant TCR Advance (DI2) my lbs did not carry so had to look elsewhere and Trek madone 5.9 2013 from my current lbs. There is huge price difference as in 4k AUD for giant and 5k for trek madone.. Still looking for other choice man. Here also got the rabobank TCR advance sl at the same price at 5.9.

This post has been edited by minizian: Nov 1 2012, 08:28 PM

Ya, I did learn that from my very expensive hobby haha. Which is why I'm not too hung up by the carbon frame fact. Am looking to test out this hobby first so I'm looking at a basic entry level Tiagra or 105 group set. Obviously the more things the better hehe. I want to appreciate cycling as well as the upgrading process. If I were to buy the best titanium bike but no skills or unfit, it'd be pretty pointless andwill lose the passion very quickly.

That being said, one thing I also learn when it comes to stuffs like these, there can never be no upgrades or sufficiency. I can give you an aventador, you will still add on a twin turbo setup in future. That's guy's hobbies to you. Even runners are constantly looking for new vibrams or LG4 or new shoes, it will never stop. Only thing that is stopping is your wallet and bank account. Hehe

HI everyone, I am new in cycling. Just a beginner, I would like a get a new road bic. Any tips?

What is your recommendation ? Budget below RM3k.

seller level 'honest-friend'

"sir, i'm not telling u to spend on something u don't need at the moment nor to spend with money u don't have at the moment. what i'm trying to tell u is that, u don't want to end up thinking u should have done this/that, or u should have waited a bit till u have a little more money, or u should have upped ur budget a little bit. if u can be content with what u can get right now, than fair enough. but that's not usually the case down the road. i've heard too many what-ifs and should-haves"

so how? honest sales pitch?

u're hired... considerate done

IMO..get a good frame first. components can be upgraded later..

No point you are having a top of the range dura ace or SRAM but your frame is the super flexy XDS for example.

105 is good enough for a start. Tiagra and sora is not really recommended though if you do want to enjoy your beginnin of cycling hobby.

This post has been edited by mrjgx: Nov 2 2012, 01:37 AM

gained a new friend, fired from shop for losing business...

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Added on November 2, 2012, 3:42 amtiagra 10s is ok lar, at least forcibly ok..still got some exit roads to maneuver..

first thing first... we are not against brands like xds, exitway and the likes of it... (well, actually... come to think of it.. maybe we are quite against it)... but, the main reason why we don't like this brands are that they offer bikes that are too cheap for you to trust them...

it might look like an excellent deal for a buyer from an exterior point of view especially one if you have not come into contact with cycling before and you are pressed for money...let's not argue about the quality of their frame and things of that sort.. some of the parts on those bikes are questionable if they even can last longer than 2 years if not 1... if the parts starts kaput-ing midway into ownership, that means you are piling on repair costs which is gonna end up in a bad way...

some of the very evident choices of exitway in cutting costs to sell their bikes cheap and make it look very worth it, lower quality cranksets and BB (prowheel in most cases of bikes that costs less than RM1.3k or the 3 figure bikes)... and some very funky paired spoke like wheels... the choice of other lower componentry like handlebars, saddle, seat post will not hurt much until you start to get itchy handed... and after spending x amount of money... you realize you end up with a very costly bike with no identity

so, to clarify a bit.. we are not just about branding here...

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Added on November 2, 2012, 3:54 amgo back 3 pages...recently asked...

http://forum.lowyat.net/topic/2448649/+2100

This post has been edited by butthead: Nov 2 2012, 03:54 AM