WHy have to be sooo complicated.

Tell me.

With same serial number which have been send to Nikon Center before.
Same diagnostic but original owner choose not to proceed with repair (Warranty void or not not important)

Buyer have proven with fact that the SAME Nikon have problematic before. (Again same serial number)

NOw, should buyer be getting his refund?

Just like TS mentioned b4, if the warranty is applicable in this case, the 1st owner already proceed to repair it under warranty claim on 27/4/2012. It not really important what word we use here, VOID, INVALID, NOT APPLICABLE ... etc .... its common sense.

FACT : 27/4/2012 - Impact damage found - Quoted RM1202 for repair - Owner refuse to repair = Warranty ?

This post has been edited by stormaker: Aug 6 2012, 09:41 AM

To be fair to all parties, go and file this case at the tribunal tuntutan pengguna. Name Nikon as one of the party in this case.

The tribunal can then rule :-

1. Whether seller should refund buyer.

2. Whether third party (ie salvator) should refund seller.

3. Whether warranty void or not.

4. Whether Nikon is right in saying they deny warranty.

And a bunch of all other questions. Having it here is like a bunch of kids arguing in a playground, you carik geng, I carik geng, then all geng gaduh, you get bruised, battered but issues are not settled. Have in in a legal proceeding that only cost you 5 bucks, where you can force the Nikon guys to come and give evidence heard and judge by an impartial party.

And any judgement out of the case is enforceable. Then you can bring in the police if either party refuses to pay. Squabbling all day long here is not going to solve anything. How about it?

That is my next step. Thanks anyway for the advice.

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Added on August 6, 2012, 10:33 amAnd also for everyone's info, I'm trying to settle this case outside of court. If I report to TTPM, more work to be done, more time to waste...and with the evidence, u can guess who will pay the price. So it will be wise if he can refund me before I go to TTPM. I'm only asking RM500 to be refunded. If tomorrow still no refund, I will bring all my evidence and go file this case in TTPM. So it's up to silverfire actually. Its an easy choice. We do this the hard way or the easy way.

This post has been edited by Izwan898: Aug 6 2012, 10:33 AM

i really hope that u get ur refund back bro but i also hope that seller like dis kena lagi teruk so that it will be a listen for other traders in LYN

u mean lesson?

anyway hope u guys could settle this in peace. TTPM is time consuming.

Yup. Time consuming but worth it since TS will get ALL his money back and everything will be officially documented by the authorities. Future trades will be difficult for seller. In other words, no business anymore.

That's what I'm hoping...i hope silverfire can get in his senses and just refund...if go TTPM...haizzz....goin to court...

Scratch lens,scratch phone? This is impact damage, with physical internal damage. To be fair,how about making an example with similar scenario, 'I always had my phone dropped and one day I realised that the some functions were not working anymore, do you think if I go to Service centre,my warranty will still be valid even though I don't want to repair?'


And I disagree with you when you said 'demo unit and used unit are actually the same.' Even by the terms definition provided previously in this thread,both are different. Based on my experiences, demo unit resale value is much lower compared to the used unit.

almost same like my previous case.

i lost rm600 for that case if some ppl recall i sold a overheat isse asus gtx 280 for rm300.

the first owner just ingored me about the warranty issue.

be responsible to ur buyer bro silverfire. ya, i knew u're victim too but u also need to take the responsible for Izwan.

then u settle ur own problem with ur seller.


Izwan ask for rm500 for compensate. it's good enough.


maybe u still a student, u think rm500 is too much for u, and ur planing is ask for the refund from the first owner so u can refund izwan.


my suggestion is u can try to ask izwan give u maybe few days or 1week time for u to chase ur seller. if u can get money from ur seller and just refund izwan.

if after few days or 7days, u still can't settle with ur seller. then u have to frog out rm500 to pay izwan first.


for ur own dispute thread, u're the victim and i believe others forumer will back u up.

hope this case can settle peacefuly,

my bad..lesson not listen

A very2 good advice from bro seamonster here...I don't want this case to get uglier too. Hope can settle with RM500 and u can give the lens back to salvator. What's done has been done. When refunded I will close this case and this thread. Will clear your name too. I'm willing to lose RM200 for u considering u're still a student. Hope all ends well. Regards.

How to I file a report at TTPM?

Clear my name?

Wow, still arrogant till until now. You've lost your safe trader tag. Ain't it tarnishing your name?

Very wise advice indeed. Will work out fine unless both sellers are actually a team/gang.

Are you getting the context?

Yes when u settle this case like a gentleman.

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Added on August 6, 2012, 12:37 pmBro, I'm trying to settle this case nicely.

This post has been edited by Izwan898: Aug 6 2012, 12:37 PM

Nicely?

Nevertheless, are you going to wait for salvator's reply? Because if you don't intend to wait, I also don't intend to ask the money from him anymore.


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20th August? Why have to wait so long? Hmmm...what if he won't pay up? I will be wasting time here waiting?

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Added on August 6, 2012, 1:04 pmAnd why do I have to wait for salvator? I bought the lens from him is it?

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Added on August 6, 2012, 1:05 pmHmmmmmmmm..........

This post has been edited by Izwan898: Aug 6 2012, 01:05 PM