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 Alam impian Pentas Superlink V2, Pentas series discussion

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karseng
post Mar 31 2013, 11:14 PM

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The price was mentioned by SA, may not true due to estimated.
As a UFO kor said, Nukilan3 suddenly surged up to 680k from 508k.

It also to happen next launch 25x85 from 1mil, if possible. But due to bank loan is tighten, I&P still worry some. Especially over 1mil is not easy to take 90% amount for loan.

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post Mar 31 2013, 11:19 PM

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QUOTE(karseng @ Mar 31 2013, 11:14 PM)
The price was mentioned by SA, may not true due to estimated.
As a UFO kor said, Nukilan3 suddenly surged up to 680k from 508k.

It also to happen next launch 25x85 from 1mil, if possible. But due to bank loan is tighten, I&P still worry some. Especially over 1mil is not easy to take 90% amount for loan.
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Most of the time I&P SA dunno the future selling price
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post Mar 31 2013, 11:40 PM

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Wah, if this is going to happen, die die oso must buy one more unit. Once matured in 2016, price will definely surge though ppl tend to argue that AI is lacking of commercial vibrancy.

By the way, what is taikors n sifu here's view on inp vs naza in AI. Which will appreciate more. Naza clearly has edge in terms of concept fng whereas inp is clearly superior in terms of Build up and quality + location.
Currently naza's location is deep inside but once the whole area is fully developed will naza has advantage over inp?

This post has been edited by jucl: Mar 31 2013, 11:42 PM
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post Apr 1 2013, 01:33 AM

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QUOTE(jucl @ Mar 31 2013, 11:40 PM)
Wah, if this is going to happen, die die oso must buy one more unit. Once matured in 2016, price will definely surge though ppl tend to argue that AI is lacking of commercial vibrancy.

By the way, what is taikors n sifu here's view on inp vs naza in AI. Which will appreciate more. Naza clearly has edge in terms of concept fng whereas inp is clearly superior in terms of Build up and quality + location.
Currently naza's location is deep inside but once the whole area is fully developed will naza has advantage over inp?
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Indeed I am a bit worry, many people think property sure make profit which I think is wrong, a few things must be addressed before we comment further.

1. Investment involve risk - although in long run, property is likely to go up, but in short run, the chances for correction is possible
2. No such thing of guarantee make profit after VP (even though it is landed property)
3. If I purchase a property, my bottom hope is that developer must deliver the product (house) to me, making profit or not is the 2nd concern, I hv seen so many abandoned projects in the last 2 decades.

TTDI vs I&P - Alam Impian,

In terms of % appreciation, assume mkt constant
TTDI = Club House + Fenced
I&P = Nil (No fence)

I&P old SD > TTDI latest SD (entry price for I&P is damn low)
Pentas series (1&2) = TTDI latest SD
Pentas series (1&2) > TTDI link house
I&P Precinct 1 = Pentas 3 = TTDI link house
I&P future SD < TTDI link house < TTDI SD
Long run (> 10 yrs), TTDI latest SD > Pentas series

p/s :- Pentas series will most likely fenced

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post Apr 1 2013, 02:20 AM

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QUOTE(jucl @ Mar 31 2013, 11:13 AM)
Every time I see Pentas 1 I damn sakit hati coz I didn't manage to get a unit there. For me I think it is one of the best facade in AI yet with sooo reasonble price.
I dunno whether I shud congratulate those Pentas 1 owner or envy them..:ahaha
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Me too... I like p1 a lot more and I wish I could get a p1 end unit...anyone wants to swap with me? brows.gif

QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Mar 31 2013, 11:30 AM)
Hmm, nvm la. At least u got Pentas 2 what.

Pentas 1 looks very nice and real sharp, but, Pentas 2 not bad what, at least the pillar to pillar offers bigger width space compare to Pentas 1.

I dunno Pentas 1 can park 2 Camry or Accord side by side with walking comfort or not.
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P3 is the worst with two thick pillars..
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post Apr 1 2013, 02:24 AM

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QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Apr 1 2013, 01:33 AM)
Indeed I am a bit worry, many people think property sure make profit which I think is wrong, a few things must be addressed before we comment further.

1. Investment involve risk - although in long run, property is likely to go up, but in short run, the chances for correction is possible
2. No such thing of guarantee make profit after VP (even though it is landed property)
3. If I purchase a property, my bottom hope is that developer must deliver the product (house) to me, making profit or not is the 2nd concern, I hv seen so many abandoned projects in the last 2 decades.

TTDI vs I&P - Alam Impian,

In terms of % appreciation, assume mkt constant
TTDI = Club House + Fenced
I&P = Nil (No fence)

I&P old SD > TTDI latest SD (entry price for I&P is damn low)
Pentas series (1&2) = TTDI latest SD
Pentas series (1&2) > TTDI link house
I&P Precinct 1 = Pentas 3 = TTDI link house
I&P future SD < TTDI link house < TTDI SD
Long run (> 10 yrs), TTDI latest SD > Pentas series

p/s :- Pentas series will most likely fenced
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A very valid point...people in Malaysia is blessed that they have never face property bubble burst before..it is a real threat...with precedent case like United States and HK. Just buy whatever we can afford to pay..then it should be ok...
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post Apr 1 2013, 02:41 AM

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QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Apr 1 2013, 01:33 AM)
TTDI vs I&P - Alam Impian,

In terms of % appreciation, assume mkt constant
TTDI = Club House + Fenced
I&P = Nil (No fence)
I&P old SD > TTDI latest SD (entry price for I&P is damn low)
Pentas series (1&2) = TTDI latest SD
Pentas series (1&2) > TTDI link house
I&P Precinct 1 = Pentas 3 = TTDI link house
I&P future SD < TTDI link house < TTDI SD
Long run (> 10 yrs), TTDI latest SD > Pentas series

p/s :- Pentas series will most likely fenced
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UFO boss, I like your analysis.
To clarify, = means equally good, and > means better than?
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post Apr 1 2013, 09:23 AM

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QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Apr 1 2013, 01:33 AM)

I&P old SD > TTDI latest SD (entry price for I&P is damn low)
Pentas series (1&2) = TTDI latest SD
Pentas series (1&2) > TTDI link house
I&P Precinct 1 = Pentas 3 = TTDI link house
I&P future SD < TTDI link house < TTDI SD
Long run (> 10 yrs), TTDI latest SD > Pentas series

p/s :- Pentas series will most likely fenced
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Sorry if i ask stupid question, what is SD? you mean Semi D?
Can i assume in conlcusion, future Naza likely to appreciate more compare to INP? Both Link series?

By the way, assuming Pentas will be fence, what is your take against Zicrona @ Naza.
I am using Pentas against Zicrona, both launched similar timing with price. Easier to compare, apple to apple.
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post Apr 1 2013, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Mar 31 2013, 12:05 PM)
Hahaha. No wonder. Great camera u got.

Erm, nice skill too. Hehe.
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Paiseh, not camera. HP only..hehehe
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post Apr 1 2013, 09:44 AM

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QUOTE(jucl @ Apr 1 2013, 09:23 AM)
Sorry if i ask stupid question, what is SD? you mean Semi D?
Can i assume in conlcusion, future Naza likely to appreciate more compare to INP? Both Link series?

By the way, assuming Pentas will be fence, what is your take against Zicrona @ Naza.
I am using Pentas against Zicrona, both launched similar timing with price. Easier to compare, apple to apple.
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Before I placed my cheque with I&P, I visited TTDI Zircona launch with another contractor, after a detailed study, both of us bought Pentas eventually
That moment we never consider Pentas will be fenced, apple to apple comparison, even though Zircona is fenced and with club house facility, I still see Pentas has the edge.
Our main concern were :-
1. Location
2. Distance fr river (flood concern)
3. Product feature
4. RM / sf (Bu)
5. Building quality
6. Ease of selling in the future (exposure - Pentas at the road side)

If Zircona also 25'x85' (Bu >3,000sf), then Pentas "finish". Quite a close fight indeed. Fr the product feature and pricing shown, TTDI is clearly the winner. If both developer swap the land, I&P hard to survive in AI.

My 2 bakuli

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karseng
post Apr 1 2013, 10:11 AM

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Me too personally went to TTDI showroom to compare I&P. The most luxury interioir I will choose for Pentas.

IMO, TTDI land too limited. They are mostly gave a land size around 22x70 but 3sty built-up similar to Canting 24x80. But we cannot think about single advantage of built-up area same size, which is carporch more important that I&P wider around 24feet or 25feet.

It is apple to apple.

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post Apr 1 2013, 10:16 AM

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QUOTE(bengjiun @ Apr 1 2013, 02:20 AM)
Me too... I like p1 a lot more and I wish I could get a p1 end unit...anyone wants to swap with me? brows.gif
P3 is the worst with two thick pillars..
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Atleast that you bought facing garden still can park extra. biggrin.gif
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post Apr 1 2013, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Mar 31 2013, 11:19 PM)
Most of the time I&P SA dunno the future selling price
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To be honest, i don't feel that double the price after 3 years later. If who will think property can double gain is wasted your time now. This time we consider buy for own stay or keep for children.

This is over story since 2008-2010, we can double price & earn alot from property. I am lucky within that year I bought 400K(Semi-D) > sold 1mil, and bought 130K > today valuable 400K(Axis).

Now assume I sold 400K mine Axis, it can sale 800K after 2 years? I dare say "NO". The price surged for one time luck within you bought it in 2007/08.

We still can earned in 2013 but not much. Assume mark-up 20% excluding expenses cost, maintainance, legal/MOT, paper processing, bank penalty, GST & etc.
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post Apr 1 2013, 11:55 AM

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QUOTE(ahken100 @ Apr 1 2013, 10:28 AM)
To be honest, i don't feel that double the price after 3 years later. If who will think property can double gain is wasted your time now. This time we consider buy for own stay or keep for children.

This is over story since 2008-2010, we can double price & earn alot from property. I am lucky within that year I bought 400K(Semi-D) > sold 1mil, and bought 130K > today valuable 400K(Axis).

Now assume I sold 400K mine Axis, it can sale 800K after 2 years? I dare say "NO". The price surged for one time luck within you bought it in 2007/08.

We still can earned in 2013 but not much. Assume mark-up 20% excluding expenses cost, maintainance, legal/MOT, paper processing, bank penalty, GST & etc.
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post Apr 1 2013, 12:01 PM

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QUOTE(ahken100 @ Apr 1 2013, 10:16 AM)
Atleast that you bought facing garden still can park extra.  biggrin.gif
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Ya...But p3s corner unit very expensive...on the.other hand. P1 is only marginally more exp than p3 intermediate...and they have white grey theme which looks more contemporary than the beige interior of p3. I feel very imbalanced (envious).. haha
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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Apr 1 2013, 02:41 AM)
UFO boss, I like your analysis.
To clarify, = means equally good, and > means better than?
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post Apr 1 2013, 05:53 PM

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QUOTE(ahken100 @ Apr 1 2013, 10:16 AM)
Atleast that you bought facing garden still can park extra.  biggrin.gif
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Your garden is ready...

My pond still not build yet.... mad.gif mad.gif
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QUOTE(Lionking1900 @ Apr 1 2013, 05:53 PM)
Your garden is ready...

My pond still not build yet....    mad.gif  mad.gif
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So apa macam liao the pond... aiksss mana boleh tipu orang 1 tongue.gif must chase InP
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QUOTE(Lionking1900 @ Apr 1 2013, 05:53 PM)
Your garden is ready...

My pond still not build yet....    mad.gif  mad.gif
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Sorry to say that but to have a pond like those at canting, better not have one.
Looks like mosquito breeding ground.
Unless they can build like the one at central lake O perhaps replace it with a nice park smile.gif
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QUOTE(Lionking1900 @ Apr 1 2013, 05:53 PM)
Your garden is ready...

My pond still not build yet....    mad.gif  mad.gif
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Honestly, I prefer it convert to children playground. I found AI landscape too much pond, lake & loji. I feel that not useful for residential, unless we can fishing here.

AI have one lake very enough for good landscape. I prefer have golf course field more greenery.

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