I agree. they are not the only char koay teow store in penang. Inp is not the only developer in the country that selling property

Haha, sometimes I am very bad too, if nicely tell can wait 2 hours, If I free, I say, ok np and I wait.

If LCLY face and ask me wait 1 hour, I will leave immediately without replying.

it is still back to the one's attitude.

Sometimes i just dont understand the taikors here, so deffensive!

I just gave gentle comments and give suggestions on INP shd work harder on commercial, and the staffs to give better service.
But taikor call it INP ada gaya, change yourself if cannot change others, bla..bla.... Speechless !!

Oic, surprising was, No. 27 was available ( vacant pint ) when I visit on Friday evening and saw a brother here posted the Pentas 3 sales chart as at today, but No. 14 were booked ( Blue Pint ) instead of the No. 27 which is still vacant pint.

Ohh really? I think I saw wrongly of the price, I thought the No. 14 is slightly higher ( RM 10,000 ) than the row behind due to facing Kawasan Lapang and No. 23 or No. 27 is facing opposite houses.

If you had made your booking and issue cheque, should have considered booked dy what. KIV list is not booking, just require name and contact and expectation date to come with cheque for formal booking.

I still thinking Pentas 3 or Nukilan 3, due to lower absolute price and should be do-able 2 years later with min RM 780k price tag as the current 22x80 already hovering this price.

On per sq feet basis, definitely Pentas 3 is worthy and it is cheaper by RM 30-40 psf compare to Nukilan. Anyhow, the absolute price tag is important for decision making and well, Nukilan actual plan does not impress me although I am fine with the unit floor plan, a similar layout for majority of the I&P projects.

Really kah?

I thought I wear formal, macam palia salesman and young enough not to afford any prop above RM 600k or RM 800k so no one layan me for 20 minutes until I ask the SA who answer me few questions and missing.

But sumtimes, I don't like the SA talk too much non stop and hardcore selling of the product, quality, confirm guarantee and talking bad about next to the door's development.

Defensive? You probably didn't read my last 2 years comments...

This post has been edited by UFO-ET: Mar 10 2013, 01:26 AM

23 or 27 is because the built up is 3499 sf..hence more exp..

i havent pay any cheque...so maybe that is why..they are suppose to prepare some letter for me to go to bankers...

i am currently overseas and am doing remote purchase..so it is kinda mafan..

I don't think people are being defensive.. it is just that different people have different opinions... it is well established that marketing team for inp is not the best.. and naza ttdi marketing may be better.. but at the end of the day it is about individual choices.. sure we know inp bad marketing and can be better.. but don't need to harp on the fact.. suggestions are better directed to inp.

agree...u think the suggestion direct to INP would works?
i will definately the last one who call it a gaya service, nor tell others just ignore the service and only focus 100% on the products.
As u said, different ppl different opinion.

Well i'm quite sure giving suggestions here won't work either.. i dont work with inp.. . Better try direct la if belum cuba suggest.. suggest here pun nothing happens.. the SA that i met in AI was one of the better ones and even he admitted InP marketing is 'slow and steady'.. that is what happens when staff isn't fully motivated... can suggest la give comission to SA per unit sold

I don't need to explain which way is I&P heading....
Just look at the way how they promote their product...
you should know what i mean

Pentas 2 got alarm system.

The name of I&P is a quality, under-value but superb in delivery (always with surprises).

However...... the marketing....the promotion....the sales..... oh... well.....

Pentas 1 also got, Pheo brand but maybe not as famous as Pentas 2 Paradox brand.

I think most important things is whole twonship plan. If alam impian turn out like bandar kinrara, then jialat, everytime has to travel to kemuning liao ... Bandar kinrara is still ok to have puchong jaya beside it. Hopefully they can learn copy and paste from sps but not copy and paste from bandar kinrara.

This post has been edited by nkhong: Mar 10 2013, 09:44 AM

Pentas1 going to VP soon? How about Pentas2, can be earlier?

This post has been edited by aktoh: Mar 10 2013, 09:56 AM

Among all the forummers, I condemn I&P the most I think. I also comment on the Bandar Kinrara Community Forum. I visit their Kinrara sales office alomost every mth since 1998. Like Mah Sing, I&P has a bad track record back 23 yrs ago when they started in Bdr Kinrara and Butterworth.
Back then, in terms of :

1) House quality - among the worst in Puchong
2) House Facade - among the worst too
3) House layout - among the worst
4) Concept - No concept
5) Township planning - they lost (particulary in commercial aspect)
6) Service & hospitality - Nothing different fr today
7) Pricing - No cheap becoz using lousy building material
8) Workmanship - no eye see
9) Sales office image - You won't feel like going to buy

I may hv different feeling fr some of you guys in this thread, if we examine all the 9 aspects from 1998, you can see some improvements overall (averagely) (I&P 50%) vs Mah Sing (80%) vs SPS (200%) vs IOI (70%).
The things I ever proposed to the head of department / Sales staff -
1. Better marketing brochures and design (sample showed) - Not follow
2. Show house (sample show) - Ya, this year I&P Service Residence is going to hv show room
3. SA product knowledge - No improvement
4. Better show room - AI show room really a change
5. Sell features and benefits (polish selling skills) - The best weapons they hv but dunno how to use
6. Product design (facade & Concept) - They always claims that it is too late for G&G, but at least perimeter fence has been set up in most of the new phases.
7. Suggestion on future service apartment size (Petaling 8 - a failure) -I think they learn fr the mistake, now they has tried to follow the mkt trend (smaller size apartment to suite affordability, design also look better now)

An outlook of the future Service Apartment in Bdr Kinrara :-



This post has been edited by UFO-ET: Mar 10 2013, 10:18 AM

Well, I cannot agree with you. It is not right to compare your dining experience with buying a house. Obviously, each weighting for willingness to pay varies for industry to industry. If I want to stay a 5 star hotel, I would expect very good service level because high weigthing of my money goes to pay for service beside the room itself.

Similarly for buying a house. My criteria of choosing a house will very much depends on the product itself, location, price etc. Though good service is a bonus but I am not willing to pay extra just to get good service. As such, I allocate low weigthing for service compare to location, quality, price and so on.

Each model and formula works differently. What is important is the result. To inp, this formula works for them. Why do you need to market your product agressively when you hv edge over ur competitor. Since their porduct is still selling, why fix something that is working? This is their biz model. Their end result, house is still selling.

Ideally everybody wants good sevice, good location, good product even some expect beautiful SA but remember, all this come with a price. Are you willing to pay a bit more juz to get better service fr Inp. For me no, I am fine with current.

If I want beautiful SA and good service, I go to ktv...hehehehe

True.
Hard to change to rigid culture. I just want to clarify that I hv raised the service concern to the head, if they ignore it, so what can I (purchaser) do?
The thing is very simple, your money you decide.

This post has been edited by UFO-ET: Mar 10 2013, 10:29 AM

+1.. i encountered the same too when i visited inp sales office in two seperate ocassions ... no one hew me for 30mins... i left without regret