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 Alam impian Pentas Superlink V2, Pentas series discussion

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post Mar 10 2013, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Mar 10 2013, 10:23 AM)
True.
Hard to change to rigid culture. I just want to clarify that I hv raised the service concern to the head, if they ignore it, so what can I (purchaser) do?
The thing is very simple, your money you decide.
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This is why it is very important for one to assess what is your value curve and match against your willingness to pay. You set the criteria each in the value curve and evaluate ur self.
Everbodys individual value curve varies. Do it objectively n you decide yes o no.
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post Mar 10 2013, 10:50 AM

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QUOTE(Vector88 @ Mar 10 2013, 10:31 AM)
+1.. i encountered the same too when i visited inp sales office in two seperate ocassions ... no one hew me for 30mins... i left without regret smile.gif
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You keep standing there for few hours, the SA keeps "no hew" Lu for hours biggrin.gif
So I say, the most happiest person are IJM & TTDI Boss now. rclxms.gif
Who benefit the most fr I&P in competitiveness :-
IOI - Bdr Puchong Jaya, Bdr Puteri
SPS - Pusat Bdr Puchong
TTDI - Alam Impian
Paragon Ex S/B - Paragon Heights
IJM - Bdr Rimbayu
Main contractor for early phases - the build lousy house and I&P clear the shxx for them

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post Mar 10 2013, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(bengjiun @ Mar 10 2013, 01:36 AM)
23 or 27 is because the built up is 3499 sf..hence more exp..

i havent pay any cheque...so maybe that is why..they are suppose to prepare some letter for me to go to bankers...

i am currently overseas and am doing remote purchase..so it is kinda mafan..
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Ohh, ya, No. 23 or 27 ( this row ) is Type A1/A1a which is built up 3499 sq feet and No. 14 is Type A2/A2a which is 3273 sq feet built up ...

IMO, it is worthy to take 3499 sq feet since additional RM 20k only from 3273 sq feet unit. ( differs by 226 sq feet )

But I prefer A2 layout especially Ground Floor where the kitchen is not as compact as A1, however, A1 has extra study area which is separated from the upper floor living hall. Though it is not so crucial for me, but it has added value where the study area can be sacrifice to extend the space for Bedroom 3.

Wahh, you're at oversea, then I think it is quite difficult.

Hmm, if you havent pay cheque / fund transfer, I think it is not consider booking yet. Probably the Non Bumi KIV person mentioned to me was you.




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post Mar 10 2013, 11:24 AM

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I see a street fight coming. Chris Chew vs bengjiun. Round 1... Fight..
QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Mar 10 2013, 11:15 AM)
Ohh, ya, No. 23 or 27 ( this row ) is Type A1/A1a which is built up 3499 sq feet and No. 14 is Type A2/A2a which is 3273 sq feet built up ...

IMO, it is worthy to take 3499 sq feet since additional RM 20k only from 3273 sq feet unit. ( differs by 226 sq feet )

But I prefer A2 layout especially Ground Floor where the kitchen is not as compact as A1, however, A1 has extra study area which is separated from the upper floor living hall. Though it is not so crucial for me, but it has added value where the study area can be sacrifice to extend the space for Bedroom 3.

Wahh, you're at oversea, then I think it is quite difficult.

Hmm, if you havent pay cheque / fund transfer, I think it is not consider booking yet. Probably the Non Bumi KIV person mentioned to me was you.
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QUOTE(AMINT @ Mar 10 2013, 11:24 AM)
I see a street fight coming. Chris Chew vs bengjiun. Round 1... Fight..
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Hahaha, definitely no lah ...

bengjiun should comes first as priority. I am yet to be a serious buyer bcz the price is not low and hard for me to get loan.


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post Mar 10 2013, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Mar 10 2013, 11:15 AM)
Ohh, ya, No. 23 or 27 ( this row ) is Type A1/A1a which is built up 3499 sq feet and No. 14 is Type A2/A2a which is 3273 sq feet built up ...

IMO, it is worthy to take 3499 sq feet since additional RM 20k only from 3273 sq feet unit. ( differs by 226 sq feet )

But I prefer A2 layout especially Ground Floor where the kitchen is not as compact as A1, however, A1 has extra study area which is separated from the upper floor living hall. Though it is not so crucial for me, but it has added value where the study area can be sacrifice to extend the space for Bedroom 3.

Wahh, you're at oversea, then I think it is quite difficult.

Hmm, if you havent pay cheque / fund transfer, I think it is not consider booking yet. Probably the Non Bumi KIV person mentioned to me was you.
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A1 & A1a - Living = 25.13' which I think very shallow
A2 & A2a - Living = 30.67' just nice

Alternatively, for A1 & A1a, you can swap the guest room and the kitchen.

you convert the guest room into dry kitchen and extend the wet kitchen at the back, remove the wall in between guest room and living. Existing kitchen become Guest room. It will cost easily 20K. A1 building is 5ft (59.4') longer than A2 (54.5'), if for me, I need more rooms, I will take A1 and spend some budget for the kitchen modification.

Modification like this :-
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post Mar 10 2013, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(bengjiun @ Mar 10 2013, 12:36 AM)
i've made my booking for pentas 3 yesterday..for one of the lot..hopefully i am not on the kiv list!

btw..no more dibs..

after i've done extensive research..i think this housing quite value for money...build up psf is 250...almost extinct in alam impian. even chanting sub sale is about the same price ?
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May I know you are Malay? If I not mistaken Pentas left for bumi buyer now. Meanwhile, non-bumi are definitely sold out.

Somebody taken this row are mostly chinese. Now unit 27 available maybe buyer loan rejected. You are lucky man taken this unit for P3.
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post Mar 10 2013, 12:35 PM

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QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Mar 10 2013, 12:54 AM)
I&P reminds me the Penang very famous "Cha Koay Teow" sisters, the food is very delicious, however she will always ask "can wait or not? 1 hour can?" Face very LCLY  vmad.gif
Wat to do, wait lor... drool.gif
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Dun understand why u always say inp workmanship is good...may be u havent see "really good workmanship" before
To start with using sandbricks for building houses is already the lowest grade developer...even the cheap cheao oug parklane to my surprise use red bricks for walls

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QUOTE(Donald Trump @ Mar 10 2013, 12:35 PM)
Dun understand why u always say inp workmanship is good...may be u havent see "really good workmanship" before
To start with using sandbricks for building houses is already the lowest grade developer...even the cheap cheao oug parklane to my surprise use red bricks for walls
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Apple to apple comparison, link house to link house within the same price range (per sf price)
It is very subjective, I never say I&P new house building material and workmanship are perfect, of course sand bricks is the lowest grade, a component of a house consists of 20+ building materials, fr roof covering, piping, foundation, sanitary fitting, floor finishing etc.

I hv a word with a main contractor who tender the project for SPS and I&P, based on the specifications listed by both developers, he has to markup up 36% in the building costing for I&P AI project. For I&P project, % of bricks expenses is less than 8% of total building cost.
I merely give my own opinion as a purchaser, you hv your point not to agree.

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post Mar 10 2013, 01:20 PM

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Seems I&p bring alot issued from customer service problem & unsatisfied.

IMO, I 1st time walk-in AI I&P nobody come to served me. I spend few minutes to checking & survey project plan and booking status are ready shown on board.

Then I stare on 2 SA busy served Malay customers. I though this project already concern 90% bumi & 10% non bumi, there no come to served me cause I'm non bumi?

Until I walk infront of desk one SA served me but 1Q for 1A.

Then I visit TTDI A.I. definitely different. SA very nice with you & good smiling. I ask 1Q she gave 3A.

Anyway, I need a property with quality, reasonable price and big township. Not buying their service to me only. AI with 1200acre++ already a taikor here. What to do if we keen to buy here because of nice location & township?

Later, I decide booked I&p to finished it, then go massage pay RM50 can get good service and stress relax. biggrin.gif


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post Mar 10 2013, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(Chris Chew @ Mar 10 2013, 11:15 AM)
Ohh, ya, No. 23 or 27 ( this row ) is Type A1/A1a which is built up 3499 sq feet and No. 14 is Type A2/A2a which is 3273 sq feet built up ...

IMO, it is worthy to take 3499 sq feet since additional RM 20k only from 3273 sq feet unit. ( differs by 226 sq feet )

But I prefer A2 layout especially Ground Floor where the kitchen is not as compact as A1, however, A1 has extra study area which is separated from the upper floor living hall. Though it is not so crucial for me, but it has added value where the study area can be sacrifice to extend the space for Bedroom 3.

Wahh, you're at oversea, then I think it is quite difficult.

Hmm, if you havent pay cheque / fund transfer, I think it is not consider booking yet. Probably the Non Bumi KIV person mentioned to me was you.
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Earlier I have same opinion those A2 dining+living longer than A1 type. But I dislike A2 living or front gate can see thru direct to kitchen or backyard.

Fengshui or ID talk, all wealth come in front will easy straight go out to backyard. Easy come easy go.
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QUOTE(ahken100 @ Mar 10 2013, 12:30 PM)
May I know you are Malay? If I not mistaken Pentas left for bumi buyer now. Meanwhile, non-bumi are definitely sold out.

Somebody taken this row are mostly chinese. Now unit 27 available maybe buyer loan rejected. You are lucky man taken this unit for P3.
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Hi..I am Chinese.. on Thursday I called and they say one of the non bumi loan not approved and hence there was one final slot available. I had choice of 14 27 and 23 I think..I took 27 because not So near to main road.

I got email from the staff. They say Monday will prepare letter of offer to me!

Now I will hope my loan gets approved. Otherwise Chris you can have my slot..

I was very tempted to buy corner lot. But it seems like semi d. In setiadamai is a better value for the same amount of money..

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post Mar 10 2013, 03:53 PM

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QUOTE(ahken100 @ Mar 10 2013, 12:30 PM)
May I know you are Malay? If I not mistaken Pentas left for bumi buyer now. Meanwhile, non-bumi are definitely sold out.

Somebody taken this row are mostly chinese. Now unit 27 available maybe buyer loan rejected. You are lucky man taken this unit for P3.
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Hi..I am Chinese.. on Thursday I called and they say one of the non bumi loan not approved and hence there was one final slot available. I had choice of 14 27 and 23 I think..I took 27 because not So near to main road.

I got email from the staff. They say Monday will prepare letter of offer to me!

Now I will hope my loan gets approved. Otherwise Chris you can have my slot..

I was very tempted to buy corner lot. But it seems like semi d. In setiadamai is a better value for the same amount of money..

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QUOTE(Lionking1900 @ Mar 10 2013, 09:09 AM)
The name of I&P is a quality, under-value but superb in delivery (always with surprises)
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Quality ? It depends how u look at it? some highlight that INP use sand bricks, and u call it quality? The qualiy delivered are depends on the main contractors they appoint. For an investors, above average quality will do. For the price tag of RM900K to 1mil, i prefer other features included like Guarded and Gated, at least fenced and guarded, club houses and etc.

Under Value ? for a non GnG, i dont think it is undervalue, i would say it is fairly priced, as I&P didnt increase the price since day 1 due to the poor sales, Thus unfair and disadvantage for those who committed earlier.

In short i will never put I&P = Quality.

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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Mar 10 2013, 03:57 PM)
Quality ? It depends how u look at it? some highlight that INP use sand bricks, and u call it quality? The qualiy delivered are depends on the main contractors they appoint. For an investors, above average quality will do, as i value other features better, like Guarded and Gated, at least fenced and guarded, club houses and etc.

Under Value ? for a non GnG, i dont think it is undervalue, i would say it is fairly priced, as I&P didnt increase the price since day 1 due to the poor sales, Thus unfair and disadvantage for those who committed earlier.

In short i have never put I&P = Quality.
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Concept is concept, building quality is building quality, can't you differentiate in between? sweat.gif
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QUOTE(UFO-ET @ Mar 10 2013, 04:09 PM)
Concept is concept, building quality is building quality, can't you differentiate in between? sweat.gif
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Why so narrow minded?
Product quality, service quality ( which u claim inp very ber"Gaya"), township concept affect the living quality, these are all under the quality umbrella.

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Chill..beauty is in the eye of beholder. For example
2700Sf tamalan in setia alam..sub sale 950k..some think it is exp. Some think it id fairly priced.
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QUOTE(bengjiun @ Mar 10 2013, 04:34 PM)
Chill..beauty is in the eye of beholder. For example
2700Sf tamalan in setia alam..sub sale 950k..some think it is exp. Some think it id fairly priced.
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As I said Pentas are fairly priced
But not under value.
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QUOTE(cheahcw2003 @ Mar 10 2013, 03:57 PM)
Quality ? It depends how u look at it? some highlight that INP use sand bricks, and u call it quality? The qualiy delivered are depends on the main contractors they appoint. For an investors, above average quality will do. For the price tag of RM900K to 1mil, i prefer other features included like Guarded and Gated, at least fenced and guarded, club houses and etc.

Under Value ? for a non GnG, i dont think it is undervalue, i would say it is fairly priced, as I&P didnt increase the price since day 1 due to the poor sales, Thus unfair and disadvantage for those who committed earlier.

In short i will never put I&P = Quality.
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Who said Sand brick's quality is lower grade than red brick?

Are you in this industry?

Do you understand what is GnG? are you thinking GnG can guard your house and your property? are you assume such a way?

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