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post Dec 5 2005, 12:16 AM

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QUOTE(320cbr @ Dec 3 2005, 12:26 PM)
hm, i guess i'll answer this tongue.gif

1) 'I am studying now' should be watashi wa ima benkyou wo shite imasu(私は今勉強をしています。)
I am reading a book would be ima hon wo yonde imasu(今本を読んでいます。)
2) 'i am studying in xxx right now', watashi wa ima XXX ni benkyou wo shite imasu(私は今XXXに勉強をしています。)
hmm i maybe wrong here huh.gif do i use に or で? blush.gif
3) 'let's go eat' would be, tabemashou (食べましょう)
though I'm not really sure when u say minna
wat i came up with :
minna, issho ni tabemashou ka?(みんな、一緒に食べましょうか?)
"everybody, lets go eat together?", sounds different tongue.gif

tongue.gif i guess i need some help here
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1) What does the wo shite imasu means ?

2) Hmm, how do you say University in Japanese?

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3. You are talking to a Malaysian-born Japanese, Sakura. Another friend Kanae then says to you "Ano, Sakura-san wa Nihon kara desu ka". What did she say? How do you respond?


3) Does the kara here means from ?

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post Dec 5 2005, 12:44 AM

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QUOTE(Geminist @ Dec 5 2005, 12:16 AM)
1) What does the wo shite imasu means ?

2) Hmm, how do you say University in Japanese?
3) Does the kara here means from ?

Thank you very much smile.gif
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1) - (I dont know)
2) Daigaku. Todai means Tokyo Daigaku or Tokyo University.
3) Yes.
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post Dec 5 2005, 02:39 AM

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shite imasu in english is similar to wat u have 'continous tense' note that the sentence got ima(now).
例:私は今勉強をしています。
ex. I am now studying.

the root word for shite imasu is suru
suru means 'to do'
so benkyou suru 「勉強する」 literally means, to do study

my japanese quite limited so...
think oe_kintaro can explain more tongue.gif
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post Dec 5 2005, 12:59 PM

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QUOTE(Zeten @ Dec 4 2005, 11:24 PM)
i would suggest reading raw manga instead of anime..
this is the website that i used to check on meaning instead of my jap dictionary

http://www.geocities.co.jp/HeartLand/8291/dic10417.htm
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you can read raw manga for kanji/writing lesson and watch anime for pronounciation/hearing lesson..
anime from manga usually uses almost the same dialogue in the manga so it's like you got the anime script..
maybe useful for learning japanese?
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post Dec 5 2005, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(aburex @ Dec 5 2005, 12:59 PM)
you can read raw manga for kanji/writing lesson and watch anime for pronounciation/hearing lesson..
anime from manga usually uses almost the same dialogue in the manga so it's like you got the anime script..
maybe useful for learning japanese?
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I thought I'd throw my two cents on that. I'm interested in picking up Japanese as well, but before I do that I need to learn my mandarin first (only able to speak albeit broken). What anime did was just increase my vocabulary level, my grammar is still stuck. You really need some other sources in order to properly learn it.
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sorry...noob question here...
wat does it mean by '' dor mo '' ??? when i play gemes, after i buy certain item, they said '' dor mo '' so i tot is thanks...

but when i watch j-drama, i heard '' dor mo '' again, but the subtitiles written ''hello/hi'' so actually wat does it mean??? arigato notworthy.gif
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post Dec 5 2005, 05:27 PM

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I think it is doumo 「どうも」?
the complete form is doumo arigatou gozaimasu
but ppl usually just say doumo

I'm not sure about hi/hello though
I guess you should see the situation?
Are the ppl just bumped into each other and say hi/hello or wat?
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post Dec 5 2005, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(Darqfyre @ Dec 5 2005, 01:54 PM)
I thought I'd throw my two cents on that. I'm interested in picking up Japanese as well, but before I do that I need to learn my mandarin first (only able to speak albeit broken). What anime did was just increase my vocabulary level, my grammar is still stuck. You really need some other sources in order to properly learn it.
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No, you don't really need mandarin to pick up japanese. It does help in some ways, but is not a prerequisite.
Kanji is not a big worry at least until JLPT level 2 . For level 4 and 3, you could probably breeze through it with just a little bit kanji. It only gets really tough suddenly when you reach level 2
Generally, anything that's spoken japanese will offer a little something to a mindful and diligent language student. In the case of anime, start with children's anime like "my neighbour totoro" or anime with realistic everyday drama or settings, like Ocean Waves (I can hear the sea).
Ghost in the Shell or Gundam may be more interesting to watch, but at the beginners' level it won't do much for your everyday practical-use japanese sweat.gif

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post Dec 5 2005, 05:55 PM

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QUOTE(oe_kintaro @ Dec 5 2005, 05:35 PM)
No, you don't really need mandarin to pick up japanese. It does help in some ways, but is not a prerequisite.
Kanji is not a big worry at least until JLPT level 2 . For level 4 and 3, you could probably breeze through it with just a little bit kanji. It only gets really tough suddenly when you reach level 2
While I agree your post but I am an illiterate Chinese hence my wanting to learn to write and speak mandarin. sweat.gif


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post Dec 5 2005, 06:05 PM

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QUOTE(320cbr @ Dec 5 2005, 05:27 PM)
I think it is doumo 「どうも」?
the complete form is doumo arigatou gozaimasu
but ppl usually just say doumo

I'm not sure about hi/hello though
I guess you should see the situation?
Are the ppl just bumped into each other and say hi/hello or wat?
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yaya i think is '' doumo '' sweat.gif sorry nvr learn jap b4 but very interested in jap..hehe tongue.gif

the situation is like a man inside a room, then his friend went in, and this man said '' doumo'' .. blush.gif so any senpai can help me ah?? notworthy.gif
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hm not sure abt that, maybe it is something to do with the story?
the closest I can think is 'douzo' which means 'sila' laugh.gif

btw, I personally think listening to dorama works better than anime
anime voice acting sounds over-acted at times sweat.gif
plus in dorama u can listen how they converse in real life
u'll notice the difference compared to anime
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QUOTE(320cbr @ Dec 5 2005, 06:39 PM)
hm not sure abt that, maybe it is something to do with the story?
the closest I can think is 'douzo' which means 'sila' laugh.gif

btw, I personally think listening to dorama works better than anime
anime voice acting sounds over-acted at times sweat.gif
plus in dorama u can listen how they converse in real life
u'll notice the difference compared to anime
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And listen to the dreaded speech mumbling... tongue.gif
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post Dec 5 2005, 08:20 PM

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QUOTE(Zeten @ Dec 4 2005, 10:24 PM)
i would suggest reading raw manga instead of anime..
this is the website that i used to check on meaning instead of my jap dictionary

http://www.geocities.co.jp/HeartLand/8291/dic10417.htm
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For some reason, I can't view the japanese character on this site. But I can view all japanese character written here in this message board. Anyon know what is the problem?
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post Dec 5 2005, 08:22 PM

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QUOTE(aburex @ Dec 5 2005, 12:59 PM)
you can read raw manga for kanji/writing lesson and watch anime for pronounciation/hearing lesson..
anime from manga usually uses almost the same dialogue in the manga so it's like you got the anime script..
maybe useful for learning japanese?
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what i meant is.. at least u can see the words and try to pronouce and figiure it out slowly.. in anime, ure just going to repeat the verse over again and again just to get the right word.. i dont think u can listen and figure out the words so precise and clear..

@ruffstuff : go to the View Tab, go to Encoding and find Japanese

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QUOTE(Zeten @ Dec 5 2005, 08:22 PM)
what i meant is.. at least u can see the words and try to pronouce and figiure it out  slowly.. in anime, ure just going to repeat the verse over again and again just to get the right word.. i dont think u can listen and figure out the words so precise and clear..
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...unless if you took Japanese courses and live/studying in Japan like aburex does.
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QUOTE(ryosuke @ Dec 5 2005, 06:05 PM)
yaya i think is '' doumo ''  sweat.gif  sorry nvr learn jap b4 but very interested in jap..hehe  tongue.gif

the situation is like a man inside a room, then his friend went in, and this man said '' doumo'' .. blush.gif  so any senpai can help me ah??  notworthy.gif
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if not mistaken it can be used for greetings, instead of saying ohaiyo-gozaimasu or konichiwa you can say informally doumo. i think lar, correct me if i'm wrong.

QUOTE(320cbr @ Dec 5 2005, 06:39 PM)
btw, I personally think listening to dorama works better than anime
anime voice acting sounds over-acted at times sweat.gif
plus in dorama u can listen how they converse in real life
u'll notice the difference compared to anime
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ya, dorama they talk more naturally, with the politeness and all. if anime they tend to talk very fast. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Dec 5 2005, 11:31 PM)
if not mistaken it can be used for greetings, instead of saying ohaiyo-gozaimasu or konichiwa you can say informally doumo. i think lar, correct me if i'm wrong.
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Literally speaking, in Malay we use, "Silakan" for the meaning of domo. So, when someone comes in, we usually use "Sila masuk (or anything with Sila)" for formal way. Although we usually use, "Ha! Apahal?". laugh.gif
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QUOTE(Dark Steno @ Dec 6 2005, 12:03 AM)
Literally speaking, in Malay we use, "Silakan" for the meaning of domo. So, when someone comes in, we usually use "Sila masuk (or anything with Sila)" for formal way. Although we usually use, "Ha! Apahal?". laugh.gif
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it's not only for when someone walks in the room/house right? if meeting a friend anywhere also can use domo?
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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Dec 6 2005, 06:51 AM)
it's not only for when someone walks in the room/house right? if meeting a friend anywhere also can use domo?
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If you want to give a way to a person, you can use domo too. Like in bus or train as if there's an appropriate person to have a seat.
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