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post Dec 2 2005, 02:16 PM

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hey nice jhcj thumbup.gif
but if you guys seriously want to learn japanese u should go take classes
private classes where they teach u one by one is by far the best smile.gif, easier & faster for u to learn
trust me, u won't learn perfect japanese through only books

though i heard japanese classes in KL are veri expensive
they could easily go RM1000+ for i think half a semester?
so you could save up some time and money if u learnt the basic already
so good job

and if u do take japanese classes, i suggest u to learn how to write aswell, coz it totally worth it
my teacher say most malay don't learn kanji
chinese got no prob they are used to chinese characters
one note for chinese who think they can read japanese thru kanji is that not only the pronounciations are different but some kanji are also have different meaning
for example 'doctor' in chinese is 医生, in japanese it is 医者

This post has been edited by 320cbr: Dec 2 2005, 02:17 PM
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post Dec 2 2005, 02:24 PM

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in my opinion asian should have no problems pronouncing in japanese
those westeners are the only ones havin problem - those wapanese tongue.gif

and btw jhjc i think u should write them in full spellings 'desu'
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post Dec 2 2005, 04:13 PM

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wat i meant was write it in normal ro-maji
'enpitsu' not enpits(u) tongue.gif

QUOTE(jhcj @ Dec 2 2005, 03:35 PM)
Found the term used for "malay" as in "malay language". It SHOULD be correct, I think.

I hope.

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Here's what I found:
マレーシア = marēshia = malaysia
マレイ (n,adj) = marei = malay

Edited lesson 4's post to reflect this find. If I'm wrong, please PM me and let me know so that i can make the necessary corrections! tongue.gif
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i think it is マレー not マレイ
as in マレー語 mareego, malay language
and malaysian is マレー人 (mare-jin)

and maybe u want to write the example dailogues together with kana too brows.gif

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post Dec 2 2005, 04:22 PM

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oh note that the topic marker particle, 'wa'
is written as は(ha)
日本人です。
watashi wa nihon jin desu

and more on watashi
watakushi or watashi (same kanji : 私) is polite
unpolite one for male is boku
while female use atashi
i think the least polite is ore
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post Dec 2 2005, 04:39 PM

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er yea they're the same tongue.gif
but when he said malay he meant malay language
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post Dec 2 2005, 11:55 PM

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I hav question smile.gif
in wat situation do u use 勉強する?
coz usually I see 勉強をします
so they dont use を with する?
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post Dec 3 2005, 02:20 AM

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yea, benkyou(勉強) is a noun,
same thing as sentaku wo shimashita (洗濯をしました。)

so i'm guessing with the wo and shimasu it sounds more 'complete'? huh.gif
勉強する is when u say it to like, friends?
is this right? smile.gif

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post Dec 3 2005, 12:26 PM

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hm, i guess i'll answer this tongue.gif

1) 'I am studying now' should be watashi wa ima benkyou wo shite imasu(私は今勉強をしています。)
I am reading a book would be ima hon wo yonde imasu(今本を読んでいます。)


2) 'i am studying in xxx right now', watashi wa ima XXX ni benkyou wo shite imasu(私は今XXXに勉強をしています。)
hmm i maybe wrong here huh.gif do i use に or で? blush.gif


3) 'let's go eat' would be, tabemashou (食べましょう)
though I'm not really sure when u say minna
wat i came up with :
minna, issho ni tabemashou ka?(みんな、一緒に食べましょうか?)
"everybody, lets go eat together?", sounds different tongue.gif

tongue.gif i guess i need some help here

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post Dec 3 2005, 02:59 PM

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QUOTE(oe_kintaro @ Dec 3 2005, 01:04 PM)
この際は「で」を使ってください。
when you are in a place/location, use 「に」
例:私は今教室にいます。

when you are doing something at a place, use 「で」
例:工場で働いています。
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thnx for clearing that up senpai notworthy.gif thumbup.gif

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post Dec 4 2005, 12:19 PM

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QUOTE(xxboxx @ Dec 4 2005, 10:27 AM)
it's already challenging to learn the word, but to know the kanji letter as well? sweat.gif
how many letter are there to learn kanji/kana? beside, to know the letter you should also know how to write them. and tutorial how to write is not easy, you should know which line to draw first, and etc.
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ya u hav to know the strokes order
in this case u need someone to teach u
u can also ask some of your chinese friends laugh.gif
i know my friends helped me quite a lot wink.gif
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post Dec 5 2005, 02:39 AM

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shite imasu in english is similar to wat u have 'continous tense' note that the sentence got ima(now).
例:私は今勉強をしています。
ex. I am now studying.

the root word for shite imasu is suru
suru means 'to do'
so benkyou suru 「勉強する」 literally means, to do study

my japanese quite limited so...
think oe_kintaro can explain more tongue.gif
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post Dec 5 2005, 05:27 PM

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I think it is doumo 「どうも」?
the complete form is doumo arigatou gozaimasu
but ppl usually just say doumo

I'm not sure about hi/hello though
I guess you should see the situation?
Are the ppl just bumped into each other and say hi/hello or wat?
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post Dec 5 2005, 06:39 PM

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hm not sure abt that, maybe it is something to do with the story?
the closest I can think is 'douzo' which means 'sila' laugh.gif

btw, I personally think listening to dorama works better than anime
anime voice acting sounds over-acted at times sweat.gif
plus in dorama u can listen how they converse in real life
u'll notice the difference compared to anime
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post Dec 6 2005, 01:02 PM

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I've been wondering, whats the difference between gakusei(学生) and seito(生徒)
do we use gakusei for university student?

note that chichi(父) and haha(母) are used when mentioning our own family
if we mention someone else's would be otou-san(お父さん) or okaa-san(お母さん)
例:あの人は山田のお父さんですか?
ano hito wa yamada no otou-san desu ka?

and btw, I think better use koibito 恋人(lover) than boyfriend hehe
plus u can use it for both gf and bf biggrin.gif


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post Dec 6 2005, 01:26 PM

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well yea when they're married they are wife and husband...
I was just commenting on boifurendo tongue.gif
and I did say use for boyfriend and girlfriend
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post Dec 11 2005, 07:23 PM

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here is another confusion of ro-maji laugh.gif
because sensē is also can be accepted

btw the verbal form of 'desu' is 'da'
so when talking, some might say 学生だ gakusei da! (is a student)
instead of 学生です gakusei desu

and the 1st to 10th day of the month...
i still havent remembered it tongue.gif

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post Dec 11 2005, 11:14 PM

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it's 9 now,
今九時です。(ima ku ji desu)
note : when stating time kyuu (nine) is said as ku

as for 9.30, half past nine u say,
今九時半です。(ima ku ji han desu) where 半 is the half

asking time,
今何時ですか?(ima nan ji desu ka?)
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post Dec 12 2005, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(jhcj @ Dec 12 2005, 10:15 AM)
Lol it's in the next lesson actually. laugh.gif
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oops, hope u dont mind, sorry sweat.gif

 

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