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Photography The Official Nikon Discussion Thread Ver.16

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post Jul 3 2012, 08:22 AM

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post Jul 3 2012, 09:00 AM

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what's the expected price of the D600? kinda interesting laugh.gif
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post Jul 3 2012, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(Tony Stark @ Jul 3 2012, 09:00 AM)
what's the expected price of the D600? kinda interesting laugh.gif
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Im sure your not the only one interested, we''ll see

Not as R & P as Calvin, so D600 seems better suit me.

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post Jul 3 2012, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(eugene88 @ Jul 3 2012, 12:06 AM)
Yes..
But the colours are a bit washed out ler


Added on July 3, 2012, 12:31 amThere's a macro switch on the lens but it is only a lock for 200 to 300mm?


Added on July 3, 2012, 12:34 amSo should I get an exchange to Nikon 55-300mm or just live with it?
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Strongly suggest to exchange if you still can (but they might not allow). Basically they're trying to clear off the Sigma or those old lenses.

Some sigma lens does come with macro capability, which means, at least 1:3 magnification or higher. It's not true macro as in 1:1, it's not a macro lens, it never said it is, but it's like a bonus with some macro capability. I guess some people don't really understand the magnification, even with macro lens, it doesn't mean when you shoot, you always get 1:1 magnification.
For this Sigma, tough, to get 1:3 magnification, you probably need to zoom to maximum and get to the closest focusing distance.
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post Jul 3 2012, 10:41 AM

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Regarding the Sigma 70-300mm f/4-5.6 APO DG MACRO, i never used it, but just by doing some google search on some review sites, mostly give low score to this lens.

Not going to put more salt into pain. Go check them out. As for whether to replace or not. You call.


Added on July 3, 2012, 10:43 amImo if really wanna buy Sigma, only buy those with EX

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post Jul 3 2012, 10:43 AM

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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Jul 3 2012, 09:51 AM)
Strongly suggest to exchange if you still can (but they might not allow). Basically they're trying to clear off the Sigma or those old lenses.

Some sigma lens does come with macro capability, which means, at least 1:3 magnification or higher. It's not true macro as in 1:1, it's not a macro lens, it never said it is, but it's like a bonus with some macro capability. I guess some people don't really understand the magnification, even with macro lens, it doesn't mean when you shoot, you always get 1:1 magnification.
For this Sigma, tough, to get 1:3 magnification, you probably need to zoom to maximum and get to the closest focusing distance.
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not to mention to get a stable at 300mm handheld without VR/OS will need at least 1/250s or faster shutter, been there, tried it with my 55-300 without VR handheld and the result is disappointing

maybe my hand is too shaky tongue.gif
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post Jul 3 2012, 10:55 AM

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QUOTE(amduser @ Jul 3 2012, 10:43 AM)
not to mention to get a stable at 300mm handheld without VR/OS will need at least 1/250s or faster shutter, been there, tried it with my 55-300 without VR handheld and the result is disappointing

maybe my hand is too shaky tongue.gif
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Not easy to be honest, even 1/300 I think some people can't nail it. But even if it is 1/200s, indoor really GG since its a slow lens and not a big aperture like f/2.8. On f/2.8 I'm shooting easily 1/60~1/100 while pumping ISO up to 1600 already.
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post Jul 3 2012, 11:17 AM

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If @ 300mm and cant do 1/250s, the person need to relearn on how to do elbow to chest bracing and sniping breathing control. I handheld 300mm f/2.8 and can do 1/200s biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(amduser @ Jul 3 2012, 10:43 AM)
not to mention to get a stable at 300mm handheld without VR/OS will need at least 1/250s or faster shutter, been there, tried it with my 55-300 without VR handheld and the result is disappointing

maybe my hand is too shaky tongue.gif
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With 55-300mm, definitely, the lens is so light and it'll shake so badly. Go Nikon Center at BTS and try the 80-200mm f/2.8 or 70-200mm f/2.8, the heavy lens will give way better balance and way less shake; I have shaky hands, but with the 80-200mm, I can handheld at 1/30s @ 200mm, albeit not all shots are spot on. Changed to 55-300 @ 200mm, gosh, it's super shaky.

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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Jul 3 2012, 11:23 AM)
With 55-300mm, definitely, the lens is so light and it'll shake so badly. Go Nikon Center at BTS and try the 80-200mm f/2.8 or 70-200mm f/2.8, the heavy lens will give way better balance and way less shake; I have shaky hands, but with the 80-200mm, I can handheld at 1/30s @ 200mm, albeit not all shots are spot on. Changed to 55-300 @ 200mm, gosh, it's super shaky.
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so sifu andy means all people go buy heavy lens or battery grip to make your arm strong hmm.gif flex.gif

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QUOTE(onscreen @ Jul 3 2012, 11:17 AM)
If @ 300mm and cant do 1/250s, the person need to relearn on how to do elbow to chest bracing and sniping breathing control. I handheld 300mm f/2.8 and can do 1/200s biggrin.gif
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you have to take the physical condition of the body, duration of shooting/event into consideration as well la

QUOTE(Andy214 @ Jul 3 2012, 11:23 AM)
With 55-300mm, definitely, the lens is so light and it'll shake so badly. Go Nikon Center at BTS and try the 80-200mm f/2.8 or 70-200mm f/2.8, the heavy lens will give way better balance and way less shake; I have shaky hands, but with the 80-200mm, I can handheld at 1/30s @ 200mm, albeit not all shots are spot on. Changed to 55-300 @ 200mm, gosh, it's super shaky.
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tried calvin seak 70-200 2.8 on his D800, definitely more stable, but hand get tired faster as well laugh.gif

btw....my 55-300 when zoom from around 55-250mm the zoom action is smooth, from 250-300 is feel tighter and not smooth feel a bit tight, is it zoom ring got problem? hmm.gif

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post Jul 3 2012, 12:03 PM

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QUOTE(amduser @ Jul 3 2012, 11:57 AM)
you have to take the physical condition of the body, duration of shooting/event into consideration as well la
tried calvin seak 70-200 2.8 on his D800, definitely more stable, but hand get tired faster as well laugh.gif

btw....my 55-300 when zoom from around 55-250mm the zoom action is smooth, from 250-300 is feel tighter and not smooth feel a bit tight, is it zoom ring got problem? hmm.gif
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Hi,
how is the IQ between 55-300VR and 70-300VR ??
55-300VR price below RM1k right?? but 70-300VR around RM1.8k and over my budget ohmy.gif
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post Jul 3 2012, 12:05 PM

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QUOTE(leonghan @ Jul 3 2012, 12:03 PM)
Hi,
how is the IQ between 55-300VR and 70-300VR ??
55-300VR price below RM1k right?? but 70-300VR around RM1.8k and over my budget  ohmy.gif
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70-300 is fx lens while 55-300 is dx so 55-300 is cheaper, optics i guess i roughly the same

but 70-300 VR got IF ED
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post Jul 3 2012, 12:31 PM

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so users wif heavy FX body + telephoto lens have to go sniper school for training? laugh.gif

btw.. which combo below u guys prefer for traveling?

35 1.4g + 85 1.4g
or
50mm 1.4g + 24-70 f2.8

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QUOTE(seather @ Jul 3 2012, 12:31 PM)
so users wif heavy FX body + telephoto lens have to go sniper school for training? laugh.gif

btw.. which combo below u guys prefer for traveling?

35 1.4g + 85 1.4g
or
50mm 1.4g + 24-70 f2.8
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Second!

But I prefer 16-35 f/4 VR and 50mm f/1.8G tongue.gif my newest combo... but seems like the 50mm not good enough, might resort back to 16-35 and 35mm.
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post Jul 3 2012, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Jul 3 2012, 09:51 AM)
Strongly suggest to exchange if you still can (but they might not allow). Basically they're trying to clear off the Sigma or those old lenses.

Some sigma lens does come with macro capability, which means, at least 1:3 magnification or higher. It's not true macro as in 1:1, it's not a macro lens, it never said it is, but it's like a bonus with some macro capability. I guess some people don't really understand the magnification, even with macro lens, it doesn't mean when you shoot, you always get 1:1 magnification.
For this Sigma, tough, to get 1:3 magnification, you probably need to zoom to maximum and get to the closest focusing distance.
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I just bought it yesterday cry.gif
Hope they can change cause the Nikon is 55-300 is cheaper by a bit doh.gif
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post Jul 3 2012, 01:49 PM

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For traveling I actually prefer the 16-35 f4 and 35 1.4

35 is my new fav focal length lol


Added on July 3, 2012, 1:57 pm
QUOTE(amduser @ Jul 3 2012, 11:57 AM)
you have to take the physical condition of the body, duration of shooting/event into consideration as well la
tried calvin seak 70-200 2.8 on his D800, definitely more stable, but hand get tired faster as well laugh.gif

btw....my 55-300 when zoom from around 55-250mm the zoom action is smooth, from 250-300 is feel tighter and not smooth feel a bit tight, is it zoom ring got problem? hmm.gif
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Hahaha yes very heavy but I got use to it already lol doesn't bother me yet hehehe

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QUOTE(Calvin Seak @ Jul 3 2012, 01:49 PM)
For traveling I actually prefer the 16-35 f4 and 35 1.4

35 is my new fav focal length lol

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Added on July 3, 2012, 2:36 pm
QUOTE(Tony Stark @ Jul 3 2012, 09:00 AM)
what's the expected price of the D600? kinda interesting laugh.gif
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I think D600 is around RM4-5k..cz D700 is 6k plus d..anyway it should be betweeen D7000 and D700..


Added on July 3, 2012, 2:44 pm
QUOTE(wke002 @ Jul 3 2012, 08:14 AM)
Pro and Sifu , am considering Nikon  12-24 f4 , if I used current 18-200 with 3.5 and start shooting manual at f4, will the light outcome be almost the same as 12-24 set at f4 ? Orany other lens set at f4. Reason I take mostly indoor with low light and with no flash. I just want to try it out before rushing to get a f4 instead of tokina 11-16 f2.8 which should give better in low light.

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Why not u take tokina? it produces decent IQ..it's just that tokina doesn't have built-in focus motor..
Bt i've nt tried nikon 12-24 f4..

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