No guarantee one will get into the program...still need to be invited for an interview.

"After consideration of the students' UCAS application and the conditions set out above, students may be invited for an interview by Aston University."

They also need to sit for UKCAT.

Very interestingly the college equates 80% mark for their foundation to 3 A*. Other colleges like Abby have announced their mbbs international medical foundation pathway[no detail yet]. Are we going to see UK following Australia and Malaysia,FIS becoming a popular pathway for internationals aiming for med and dent ?

update on reducing subsidy for medical students in the UK.
it will be implemented on 2019-2020, rather than 2018-2019 as planned.
Guess this will be coming true.

"International students
2.9. The consultation outlined the Government’s intention to increase domestic supply and
charge international students the full costs of their course from 2018-19.
2.10. Following feedback provided through the consultation, these changes will commence in
2019-20 and not in 2018-19 as indicated in the consultation. This means the
Government will continue to fund clinical placements for international students
commencing study at English universities in 2018-19 while it undertakes further crossgovernment
work on implementing the change in 2019-20. "

@limeuu @zeng

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/syste...esponse__2_.pdf

I am surprised UK is increasing the number of medical places for locals. I doubt there is a shortage but I think its the working conditions that need improvements to make doctors stay. Maybe the consequences arising from Brexit will make more doctors quit the UK.

If I am not wrong, sometime back they are also starting to recruit Filipino nurses due to the expected shortage of nurses in the next couple of years.

There is a shortage, especially GPs. Eventually they will have enough doctors, and FYP places will likely be given to home students first, like what is being practiced in Oz.

this paper basically addresses the need and the plans for an expansion in the numbers of intake into med schools...much of the discussion, and all the survey was on this....internationals fees was thrown in as a "principle", but without any details...

looking at what happened in the uk just over the last 5 years, and what is happening in oz, it would seem foolhardy to increase the places by 500 next year and another 1000 in 2019....that could be a mistake, and while there is good reason to increase, doing it slowly would cause less of a shock to the system....even the oz method, a slow increase over 10 years to double, did not prevent a shock....with many internationals failing to secure intern jobs....

but i suspect they may have good reasons to do this....they will have the figures to support....and i suspect this is related to brexit, and the expected drop of eu doctors working in uk....if that is the case, then it may well be that the figures are taken from the historical numbers of eu doctors moving to work in the uk annually....

My niece's application for housemanship waiver was approved my MMC. She finished her 1st year housemanship in UK after completing her medical degree in London. She will start as an MO in a govt hospital for the compulsory 2-year service.

Did anyone (overseas medical graduate) receive similar waiver from MMC before?

Never of anyone getting a waiver before but its interesting she came back before she finished her 2nd year. she could have just finished off her second year in uk and get an exemption from the compulsory service.

She had to return home for family matters and completed the 1st yr housemanship in U.K. But thank God she got the 2-year housemanship waiver and she will start her medical practice as an MO in a govt hospital soon.

Statutory requirement is one year for full registration in both countries, although the fy/housemanship are 2 years....

There is no exemption for compulsory service based on years worked in other countries...

Going forward, the criteria for housemanship and compulsory service exemption will be relaxed, as the system strains under the tsunami....

True, she has to work in govt hospital for 2 years which is compulsory for those who have completed their HMO.

But she told me that MMC is mulling over to waive the 2-year compulsory service if govt isn't able to provide them with placements in govt hospital within 6 months of putting in the applications for the service.

This post has been edited by Stamp: Sep 24 2017, 12:26 PM

Directive is already out...as I said, criteria for exemption is getting easier...no job offer, exempt...lol

Going to be a lot of unemployed doctors....the private sector has no capacity to absorb these junior doctors....

One big question is that JPA is silent on the bond period of its medical scholars. MMC could give exemptions on the compulsory service, but JPA isn't saying anything regarding the scholarship bond.

As per normal jpa procedure, if a scholar do not get offered a job by gov agencies as per agreement, then they are released from the bond....

In the past, this does not occur for doctors, as all gets jobs....this is still the case for the statutory housemanship....

The question is, if after the housemanship, the doctor do not get offered a gov job, what happens....by the same agreement, they should be released....but this had not been tested yet...

its based off what paga has mentioned regarding the recent change in the system in about july, aka kelonggaran which you can apply for.

https://pagal72.files.wordpress.com/2017/08...equest-form.pdf

points 3.1 and 3.2.

Yes, that is for self sponsored students who has undergone recognise work...what is recognised is not specified...

Does not apply to jpa scholars like stamp's niece....

Reading between the lines, it's targeted at graduates from the OECD countries....nobody stays on to work in Russia, Indonesia or Egypt....

oh, i didnt notice she mentioned her niece was a jpa scholar.
my bad then

I cautioned my niece to get everything in black and white from JPA and not assume that every MMC decisions automatically apply to JPA scholarship bond.

This is to avoid unecessary embarassment and hardship to her should JPA decide to issue a demand letter for a RM1 million to her for having allegedly breached the contract. My sister (her mother) nanti pengsan!

This post has been edited by Stamp: Sep 25 2017, 05:56 PM

All the best for your niece in Malaysia.

Did she get any clinical experience during the first year of the foundation year? I thought its mainly paper work in the first year. How would she be able to to work as an MO without the relevant housemanship experience. Its not so much on the exemption, its the competency that we are talking about.