Of course she did her clinical rotations in UK after she graduated as a medical doctor . She had 3 different rotations at the hospitals she was attached to during the first year of the foundation year. She's now a registered doctor in UK (and also now in Malaysia).

Why the "cynical" queries from you? You think MMC would just simply waive the HMO requirement for medical graduates who do not go through the normal housemanship practice? Give MMC some credit laaaa..

This post has been edited by Stamp: Sep 27 2017, 06:17 PM

What were the 3 rotations? In Malaysia we got 6 rotations.

Lucky she didn't experience this:

I believe she would have gone through the next 3 rotations had she stayed on in UK for her 2nd year foundation.

I don't know what 3 rotations she went through during her first year foundation in U.K.

How about you? How far have you progressed in your medical career pursuit?

This post has been edited by Stamp: Sep 27 2017, 11:29 PM

both the uk fy and the msian housemanship are similar, in fact, msia sort of copied the uk 2 years fy....3+3 postings of 4 months each...

both also never changed the respective medical acts, and the criteria for full registration is completion of 1 year....gmc routinely grants full registration after f1....and msia can, and now will also grant full registration in the fast track scheme, after 3 postings (1 year), so they can stop housemanship after the 4th posting, get full registration and proceed to mo-ship and post graduate training....this is of course for the high flyers who completed all posting with excellent assessments and have passed their part1 exams in mrcp/mrcs etc....

I dont think he was being "cynical", but just concerned regarding her ability to cope with MOship in Malaysia.
I believed he did not doubt what rotations she has done but rather what her job entailed. Fy1 in UK, as alot people have heard about, can be quite supranumerary in terms of patient management, as in youre doing just most of the jobs ( usually set by the consultants and regs).
Its still a learning year and alot of it is due down to meaningless paperwork.

However, you still grow alot from a med student to being a doctor. I believe she will do fine as a MO in malaysia, even though she might struggle alittle at the start.

MMC probably waived it because of the oversupply of graduate doctors now. I also wonder how she can perform her duties as an MO when she has only done 3 rotations as what you said.

I have 2 relatives as graduate doctors, one locally and one in UK. I would say that the housemanship training locally is so much more intense compared to what is in UK.

I'm doing my Masters next year. (unless my HOD kacau)

This post has been edited by CyberSetan: Sep 28 2017, 10:39 AM

Indeed... I call it HELLMANSHIP...

She had better done Medical, Surgical and OBGyn rotations... otherwise she will be deep sh*t as an MO... particularly if she is posted in Klinik Kesihatan...
... wait... Paediatric rotation is damn important too....

This should be interesting...

This post has been edited by CyberSetan: Sep 28 2017, 10:47 AM

The NHS practices a super defensive type of medicine, so no unnecessary risks. However when an F1 has to run wards solo on on call days/nights, training is full on. But at least no such thing as 36 hour shifts, even when doctors are short in the UK. Am in a house with 2 F1s now. Life seems pretty decent here, as far as I can see.

Its terrible at the big general hospitals. There are quite a number of graduate doctors but the competent ones are few and are push to the limits.

Yeah, compare to bolehland, its pretty decent in UK in Year 1 and the hours tend to be more or less fixed.

The only complaint I have is that if working on Sunday, the trains doesn't start running until 8.30 am. And the taxi fare is not cheap.

There is an oversupply of housemen. But generally MOs are very still much in need in district and rural areas.

I feel this more in district general hospitals more than centralised ones. (its understandable but it gets ridiculous if youre getting patients to have unnecessary blood samples/imaging if it doesnt change your management imo)

haha, a max 12 hour shift here is enough to make the doctors wear out.
Whereabouts are you at?

They use uber for those times, around £4.80 to £5.20. They reckon it's not bad.

They're in a 700 bed hospital in Merseyside. One's in medical and the other in surgical rotation.

i see.
im currently at a small dgh of 420 beds at the moment.

She pays 20 pounds one way. Will suggest her to use Uber.

How far away is she from the hospital? That is a lot of money one way!

We will see how my niece copes when she starts her MO posting. 😬

About half an hour by train. Still staying at the same place.

Some have been posted to Aberdeen which is quite a distant away.

Hoping to get something nearer to City Centre next year.