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post Jun 5 2012, 09:18 PM

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QUOTE(Syd G @ Jun 5 2012, 05:29 AM)
Closer to 3 months than 6 smile.gif

Very happy with the program biggrin.gif. As I mentioned before, since we have a smaller batch compared to our seniors (100 us, 130 Year 2, 300+ Clayton), I found that PBL sessions are more effective. But then it could be just my group smile.gif There are bad apples of course, but I guess the quality of medical students overall hv been diluted by the number of seats available @ other medical schools as well.

In comparison to Clayton, as I mentioned, we're able to access their lecture recordings but not vice versa. There are a lot of good lecturers in Clayton that I enjoy listening too (e.g Eizenberg, Kerr, Nandurkar, Bullock) in addition to good lecturers in Sunway. I especially enjoy the fact that tutorials were conducted by specialists in that field (e.g histology/pathology tutorials by pathologist, immune system by immunologist, HIV by HIV specialist etc.) instead of some random teachers.

The course has some downsides - probably no internship opportunity in Australia despite being accredited by AMC,[cool.gif astronomical tuition fees compared to other schools and for some people - no cadavers.

But then I try not to get too excited with being in Monash. If my government loan is not approved, I'm going to have to go to UTAR instead smile.gif
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Not much of a downside as with how things are at this point, most internationals will not have internship spots upon graduation. Of course Monash Sunway grads will be much lower in the "chain".
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post Jun 5 2012, 09:44 PM

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QUOTE(Syd G @ Jun 5 2012, 09:33 PM)

of course. cant complaint much there. but the number of students expecting to work in Australia is pretty high wink.gif
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They ought not place too much hope in this, and keep up with current news pertaining to this issue, and not hoping "blindly".
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post Jun 9 2012, 10:44 AM

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Ah! The awesome truth!

"You're not special"

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/high-s...-145709954.html
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post Jun 15 2012, 01:06 PM

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And the russian recruitment continues...

From: recom.org

"Dear Potential Medical Student ,

Pls see the basic information as below .
We offer the most affordable MMC ( Malaysian Medical Council ) Recognised medical Courses .
We offer hope to the millions who believe that Affordable Quality Education is available to them.
We are Russian Resources and we have been sending students to study Medical Studies in Moscow , Volgograd & Nizhny for the past 14 Years .

We have sent more than 2500 students to date.

We also send Government Sponsored Students like JPA , MARA & other GOV or State Sponsorships ( Yayasan ) .

Pls see the info as below & we would like to hilight the following:

1.0 Full Tuition & Hostel ( Total 6 Years with STPM or Equivalent entry ) only
- Nizhny RM 109,000 +/- , Volgograd RM 119,000 + / - .
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2.0 Fully recognised by MMC ( Malaysian Medical Council ) .

3.0 We fully promote Nizhny & Volgograd as they have a very caring culture for students & the environment is condusive for studying .

4.0 We have approx 350+ Malaysian Students each in both Nizhny & Volgograd . Half are from JPA & MARA .

5.0 We will recommend Pre Medical for Students in Malaysia via Special Russian Course , but we fully recommend the students to do their foundation in Russia as their 1st intital year in Russia will fully benefit them.
This is the best pathway for students with SPM Qualifications .

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post Jun 15 2012, 03:56 PM

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QUOTE(Syd G @ Jun 15 2012, 01:40 PM)
If it's not for the fact that I have a family in tow, I'd contemplate going to Russia too....
Good gracious! Why???
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post Jun 22 2012, 08:32 PM

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Some news about international internships:

http://m.theage.com.au/national/education/...0619-20m83.html

Encouraging steps, and of course the chances of working in aboriginal areas are reasonably high, as highlighted in the following article.

http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2012/s3516456.htm
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post Jun 22 2012, 08:39 PM

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QUOTE(Syd G @ Jun 22 2012, 08:36 PM)
UCSI JPA scholars in trouble.. dum dee dum

http://www.bernama.com/bernama/v6/newsgeneral.php?id=675035
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Is it even remotely POSSIBLE that their results sucked? tongue.gif
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post Jun 23 2012, 09:56 AM

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QUOTE(cckkpr @ Jun 23 2012, 09:33 AM)
If only 13 meets the minimum requirements,then something is very wrong with SPM assessment.
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I thought this has already been established. wink.gif


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post Jul 1 2012, 07:04 PM

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Just came across this, from Perdana's PDF brochure online:

"Students graduating from PU-RCSI are conferred with the primary medical degrees of the National University of Ireland (NUI), Bachelor of Medicine, Bachelor of Surgery and Bachelor in the Art of Obstetrics (MB,BCH,BAO).
In addition, they are awarded the historical licentiates of the Royal College of Physicians of Ireland (LRCP & SI.

The MB BCh BAO degrees are recognized by the Irish Medical Council, the Malaysian Medical Council and other regulatory bodies throughout the world. The degrees allow the holder to pursue postgraduate training worldwide."


Based on this representation, this would be the premier medical school in the country. Thoughts?

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post Jul 2 2012, 09:40 AM

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QUOTE(CyberSetan @ Jul 2 2012, 02:54 AM)
Some old but interesting news from outside~



http://youtu.be/tpHu9CyZYLU



http://youtu.be/hDABFcepZ8o
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I wonder who else clicks on these links.
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post Jul 2 2012, 11:09 AM

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I doubt a rural mbbs grad will introduce himself as a rural GP. Plus, it will be a nightmare to "regulate" if the rural GP decides to move to the inner city!
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post Jul 2 2012, 03:00 PM

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I've come to terms with the fact that ROI in monetary sense has become irrelevant. It may be my I, but definitely not my R. wink.gif



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QUOTE(cckkpr @ Jul 2 2012, 03:08 PM)
Maybe RR!
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RR = Rental Return? It better not be anything to do with my (increased) Respiratory Rate!
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post Jul 2 2012, 06:09 PM

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I wonder how many malaysians went to oz for med earlier this year, and to UK this september. Just met someone whose relative is holding a UCL conditional.
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post Jul 2 2012, 09:27 PM

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QUOTE(limeuu @ Jul 2 2012, 09:21 PM)
there are always more students to uk than oz, simply due to the number of places available...

i also know someone with a ucl conditional....wonder if its the same person.... smile.gif
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The probability is very high. wink.gif

Re places, I guess it's due to the number of medical schools in the UK, and save for one or two, they all still offer undergraduate med degrees.



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post Jul 4 2012, 04:44 PM

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Encouraging news. They just need to sort out the total shortfall. Like I've said previously, Victoria's internship placement is merit-based and I believe this will continue to be practiced, ie. after placing all the home VIC students, then internationals then face-off with each other for "prime" internship placements.

The rest may end up in less ideal training spots, eg private hospitals and remote locations catering for aboriginal services. It's training nevertheless, and the next bottleneck will be getting into specialisation programs.

See article here:

http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2012/s3516456.htm

Numbers for next year:

http://www.amsa.org.au/internship-crisis

For VIC, there's still a shortage of 169 places, assuming all grads are staying put in VIC.


Added on July 4, 2012, 4:47 pm
QUOTE(confirm @ Jul 4 2012, 03:49 PM)
other states may following this as well .THis could be why  UTAS has just increased their MBBS fee for 2013 entry to AUD49,763 for year 1 increasing to AUD57105 in year 5.[totallingAUD266855]

This is a massive jump from AUD201000 for 2012 entry.
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So they've done away with the "fixed" fee system then! Monash says "not more than 6%", and you just know that will need to be factored into the worksheet. wink.gif

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post Jul 11 2012, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(Syd G @ Jul 11 2012, 12:14 PM)
OK... gov replied

I get to stay in Monash smile.gif
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Congrats, must be a load off!

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post Jul 16 2012, 04:38 PM

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QUOTE(Rin @ Jul 16 2012, 03:34 PM)
Nope, I'm just a BA graduate... dang it Malaysia, y u make courses when can't place ppl into jobs  sad.gif
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Why are you commenting in this thread, specifically?
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post Jul 25 2012, 02:48 PM

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QUOTE(cckkpr @ Jul 25 2012, 02:15 PM)
Not guaranteed, fine but by implication, deemed to be more jobs available than graduates.

internship guaranteed? then why onelove89 is worrying?

Oh yeah, the increase in fees and the strong aud is already felt. A friend told me some are coming back to study locally especially those who enroll at the beginning of this year.
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I think you have misinterpreted. If a medical graduate has an internship spot, it means a job is of course guaranteed. It's the internship spot that is NOT guaranteed.

As far as medical graduates are concerned, I do not recall reading about "more jobs available than graduates", definitely not in the last few years.


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post Jul 25 2012, 05:37 PM

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So there's some loophole to get into QBU then..

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