at undergraduate level, it is preferable for non-subspecialist to teach and lecture, as the information/knowledge required is basic, which every doctor (not even necessarily specialists) should know.....

the reason is, the subspecialists tend to have too much in depth knowledge, and tend to confuse medical students.....

therefore, it is perfectly acceptable at undergraduate level, for a cardiologist to lecture on id.....and vice versa.....

there are 2 levels in the medical programme.....the pre-clinical, and the clinical.....unfortunately, in some programmes, this has blurred due to integration of the two components programme...

at basic sciences/pre-clinical level, it is NOT necessary for clinicians to teach students....but preferable....

in the clinical years, clinicians will take over, but again, it is not necessary for 'super-specialists' to be teaching.....more important is the ability to take a good history and perform a good physical examination.....something any good doctor should be able to do....

the level of knowledge required at graduation is broad, but shallow....housemanship will consolidate the knowledge.....this wide spectrum of knowledge should stay with the doctor for life.....

only when the doctor enters a post graduate training programme, will a deeper level of knowledge be required, based on the area of specialisation....

with years of practice in a speciality, it is inevitable that the specialist will forget much of the knowledge in other fields....and a situation may exist, where a super-specialist will be a world expert in his area, but have problem diagnosing common pro9blems....

i am unsure what is meant here....shouldn't general topics than be taught by generalist rather than specialists?.....

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Added on June 9, 2012, 11:36 amit is of course always better that all teaching be done by clinicians....but few med schools have this luxury....

non-clinicians do have a different focus in the basic sciences, but the syllabus should have the relevant info available....in the case of this example, in addition to the microbiology information about e-coli, the usual sites of infection should be also listed.....

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make comeback?.....

it never left.....

i suspect it's just that there are more foundation students than places available, and there are also good non scholar foundation students....and they just pick the best.....and only that 13 of the 55 make it into the top xx number to progress to medicine.....

like i said many times, scholars, both jpa and mara have a tendency to not do well....they traditionally are over represented in the infamous imu eos2 failures.....

perhaps something to do with motivation.....or the lack of....

they did not fail to meet the requirement with spm....but their performance at the foundation.....

it is quite common for top spm students to falter at their pre-u level....and vice versa....

like i said, it is often a matter of motivation...many spm students peak at spm and burn out after that.....they think that getting a scholarship is the ultimate aim, and life is easy after that....

big mistake....

let me qualify.....it is quite common for top spm students to stumble after....

it is possible for average spm students to shine in pre-u, but you are right, it's not common.....more of exceptions...

that is correct...

however, for a 'research' to be given any value, it has to be published in an indexed publication...so some simple research done within 6 months is unlikely to be published......and thus of no value....

the 7 points is NOT vital, unless one is aiming to apply for an academic f1 post, or applying to a london deanery....

i would advise to take this 6 months to do something you like OUTSIDE medicine.....it will be the last long break in your life, till you retire....

sounds like heading for notts?.....

electives is always part of the course syllabus, and does not contribute to the 7 points....

it is obviously different for each country...

for msia, electives count for a fat zero in value....

you will NOT be expected, nor allowed to perform any operations as a medical student ......you will have the opportunity to observe, and in the later years, scrub up and assist at operations.....

they all say the same things, so i don't bother to read their hype....

the degree is no different from pmc's, which has been around for 15 years, so it's nothing special...

in addition, it is a well known fact that irish med schools are degree mills for would be doctors from around the world who failed to enter their own med schools, americans particularly....

it is silly to have 'rural' mbbs....there cannot be 2 categories of 'doctors'....

india's problem, like most other countries, is maldistribution....with rural areas under served....

they can do rural bonding, like the aussie rural bonded csp places.....but the training programme should be the same....

another solution is training paramedical personnel to run rural clinics, like what msia is doing.....

rural does NOT mean some place you need to fly to....

you are committing the common fallacy of extrapolating the exception to the general....

my laksa man also sell 300 bowls a day.....guess what happens if i try to open another laksa stall nearby....?

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Added on July 2, 2012, 12:35 pmwill people complain if they are posted there?.....

This post has been edited by limeuu: Jul 2 2012, 12:35 PM

there are always more students to uk than oz, simply due to the number of places available...

i also know someone with a ucl conditional....wonder if its the same person....

victoria medical students may all get their housemanship after all...including international students, with the new priority policy....

Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/national/educatio...l#ixzz1zdUujKVN

india has a failed and failing healthcare system....and they are doing the wrong things to address the problem....

never mix up evidence based modern medicine system with largely non evidenced based alternative systems....

like i said earlier, they should have trained paramedics to provide basic healthcare like msia, rather than mixing everything up....a recipe for disaster....

Actually, SGH and NUH charges are not that high, compared to private hospitals in Spore.....

Wipples is a pretty old and standard operation, and is performed frequently in many msian hospitals, especially those with hbp units....

However, people will always look to a more 'advanced' country for 'better' care....indonesians come to msia, msians go to spore, and sporeans go to oz/us....

the reverse flow exist because of cost.....americans flies to jci accredited hospitals in india, thailand for treatment because it's cheaper (50 million americans have no or little insurance cover)......

and sporeans go to johor for cheaper treatment, being allowed to draw from their cpf for some accredited hospitals.....