It's not about the fame or money.

It's about helping people.

Each occupation helps people in different ways.

It depends on one's own passion and interest but the main goal is still about helping people.

I agree on your point about KYUEM students getting lesser interviews.

Before my interview with one of the UK university, the interview attendant mentioned to me that number of Malaysians attending the interview was less than previous years, especially those from KYUEM, which was about 3-4 as I could roughly remember.
(Malaysia was the interview branch for southeast asia for that particular university).

haha, I don't think I want to elaborate the whole points behind helping people.

But generally, you get the idea of doctors on helping people, rather than chasing wealth or fame.

Even for internationals, it's the same.

Most of them who didnt secure a place during first round would take time to improve their UKCAT score and personal statement throughout the year. This involves during more voluntary work and hospital attachments.

I did the survey too. hoho.

Different universities rank their applicants differently
You may ask the universities about the admission procedures, usually they have some kind of form to rank them,
through FOI.

Leicester also has one of the most cheapest fees, being 114,750 quid.

Can't believe the prices are soaring at tremendous rates.. It will be difficult for internationals, especially Malaysians to study medicine in UK in the future. Sigh..
The strengthening of the sterling pounds ain't helping either. D:

Sorry for barging in but Imperial and UCL interviews are conducted in the UK, in case you didnt know.

Can you apply for both Cambridge and Oxford? For my college, they only allowed one and not both.
I've heard news from my juniors in Taylors that JPA has cancelled off Imperial from the list but i need more clarification about this matter.

You have a good UKCAT score. If you're not facing financial difficulty, why not go for your initial choices?
Medical schools in the UK tend to be very competitive and getting into one of the top unis would be difficult but not impossible.

As for interviews-wise, you can check out this link. It's kinda helpful.
http://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/wiki/:What...chool_interview

All the best and good luck!

Haha, good luck then.

As what parents would say, education is an investment, especially medicine.
Just make sure you have the sufficient tuition fees and living cost amount to survive there, in case JPA rejects you.

Where are you taking your A Levels? Looking at your statement of UMS, i guess you should be taking Edexcel unless you're not studying in Malaysia.
CIE doesn't have UMS so as long you get perfect predicted grades, you would be fine.
The interviews are the ones that are most challenging.
Cheers!

Cool. i don't know how they calculate UMS for CIE. We only got our percentile marks shown. :/

Ah, as long you have the passion for it, you will be fine.
You just have to work hard and do well. Then, you will never be jobless haha.
Are you planning to stay in the UK or coming back to Malaysia for your housemenship?

I guess it's a way of standardising the quality of doctors. Prior to this, medical students from the UK were not required to sit for any proper final exams except the ones made by individual medical schools. (There are the SJTs and PSAs though)
Internationals were required to sit for PLAB to be eligible to work in the UK but how good it was in comparing IMGs to local grads? Some said PLAB was too lenient, some said otherwise.
But as pod runner said, it affects IMGs from EU more I believe.

im not too sure about this, but i believe is for your duration of the training. (so yes, if youre on core training, it will be for two years and then you reapply for higher speciality training). So, i guess if youre on a run through programme, your visa will be extended to the duration of training.

Edit: found a website from BMA
https://www.bma.org.uk/advice/employment/im...ship-in-england

"International graduates of UK medical schools will be able to compete for core and specialty training posts in England on an equal footing with their peers from the UK and EEA. This change particularly assists trainees who are moving from core training to ST3 and above, and those choosing a different career path which involves a change of sponsor."

So, in a nutshell, you will be under the same sponsor as long you get a job.

and another link about visa extension for run through programme:

"Certificates of sponsorship can be given for up to five years. This may apply to doctors on run-through training contracts.

Once your initial visa is coming to an end, you can apply for an extension of your visa for up to five more years provided you fulfil the criteria below:

You have the same job as when you were issued your previous visa
You are still working for the employer who assigned your certificate of sponsorship
You are still earning an appropriate salary – this is £20,500 per year before tax as of 6 April 2014
You must be in the UK to extend your visa
You must still meet the points criteria"


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but i was reading through and that after being on 5 year of tier 2 visa, you need to apply for indefinite leave to remain (PR) or else you need to leave the uk for at least 12 months on a cooling period. (you cant be in the uk on a visa continously for more than 6 years).
So, in other words, you need to apply for pr lol.

yeah, at least it will easier for me to get job without the RLMT and visa issues with an easier reach to PR status.
On a side note, the UKFPO has released an article about the projected undersubscription of the foundation programme for the first time in these couple of years, so no reserve list will be made.

http://www.foundationprogramme.nhs.uk/news

yeah, agree with above.

Thats the common trend. alot of doctors (including the british locals) are emigrating in waves to oz and nz even right after f2.
the doors will be closed soon enough, even the international grads from oz unis are on the line as well.

As for now, graduating from uk unis gives you equal footing with less fees. ( as long youre dedicated, unlike me )
so yea, going to uk now is still the main bet with easier entry and training. (although this might change with privatisation, new private med schools producing their first batch of students, the new medical licensing exams, brexit, theresa may and etc in the near future)

as above mentioned,
its possible, however the opportunites wont be great because there are priotisation over to local graduates and possibly still eu grads as well and you have to sit for plab.
with the exception of gp training of course which is easier to enter.

More towards medical haha. Im at the end of my general surgery rotation and i found it to be quite bland after awhile with all the appendicitis and gall bladder stuff in general and im not in particular interested in hands on surgery.

yup 4th year but im at end of my first clinical year. so one more clinical year to go.

theres two ways to go about getting a PR in the uk.

one is through the long residence pathway, whereby you stayed in the uk legally under visas for 10 years regardless.

The other is through working under tier 2 visa for 5 years. (you need to be under a working visa, so the tier 4 visa for fy1/2 + med school does not count).

However, in the end, its the same for imu grads. For non imu grads, the long term residence pathway will be faster since we have more years in med school (so 3 years post f2 is sufficient).

(currently taking a break from ICU.. not much is happening anyways)

I guess its cheaper as well.. oz is really expensive compared to uk. (except London)

yup, at my time.
direct entry fees were cheaper for pre clinical(even after converting!)
shows how much imu is charging for!