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post Sep 12 2012, 12:11 AM

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QUOTE(catacomb @ Sep 11 2012, 11:13 PM)
By the way I think I did mentioned "The rules govern will be the same as Singaporeans unless you migrate to somewhere and surrender your Malaysian citizenship and never return to Malaysia"
But that is still entirely incorrect.

Upon giving up one's SG PR...

1. The limitation is only applicable to Malaysians residing permanently in West Malaysian (ie. West Malaysians). It doesn't not apply to East Malaysians. If you change your residency (albeit permanently) from West to East Malaysia, you can withdraw your CPF in full just like everybody else.

2. Even if you reside in West Malaysia, you can still withdraw when your 55, or even earlier at 50 if you have not worked in SG for 2 years below that (ie. you stop working in SG when you're 48... and not necessarily give up your PR at 48).

So, it's a matter of residency in West Malaysia, not citizenship of Malaysia.


3. And after giving up your PR, you will never be 'the same as Singaporeans' no matter what. The Minimum Sum and Medisave Minimum Sum will not apply to you. And my guess is that CPF Life will be compulsory instead of opt out by the time we retire, and that too will not apply to non PRs.
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post Sep 12 2012, 01:08 AM

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QUOTE(nIcV @ Sep 11 2012, 09:54 PM)
My workplace is at yishun area. So you recommend me to stay to those places that you mentioned? How is the traffic condition for the causeway link? Is it very terrible? If I reaching JB immigration at 0645, do I manage to reach my workplace at 0730?
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post Sep 12 2012, 01:15 AM

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QUOTE(seantang @ Sep 12 2012, 12:11 AM)
But that is still entirely incorrect.

Upon giving up one's SG PR...

1. The limitation is only applicable to Malaysians residing permanently in West Malaysian (ie. West Malaysians). It doesn't not apply to East Malaysians. If you change your residency (albeit permanently) from West to East Malaysia, you can withdraw your CPF in full just like everybody else.

2. Even if you reside in West Malaysia, you can still withdraw when your 55, or even earlier at 50 if you have not worked in SG for 2 years below that (ie. you stop working in SG when you're 48... and not necessarily give up your PR at 48).

So, it's a matter of residency in West Malaysia, not citizenship of Malaysia.
3. And after giving up your PR, you will never be 'the same as Singaporeans' no matter what. The Minimum Sum and Medisave Minimum Sum will not apply to you. And my guess is that CPF Life will be compulsory instead of opt out by the time we retire, and that too will not apply to non PRs.
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For item 1, it's not possible. I have checked with the officer from CPF board before. Even you were to change your address permanently to Sabah or Sarawak, you still cannot withdraw because they base on birth cerificate and not IC. Anyway don't quote me on this as I was told by the officer. I have checked alll means about how to withdraw out my cpf. And in my earlier post I did mentioned Sabahans and Sarawakians are able to withdraw their CPF and return to Sabah or Sarawak. I didn't use the word going back permanently because they are still able to return to Singapore and contribute back to CPF etc. I shall not go there into details

Item 2 I got no comment as I didn't check on that.

Item 3, I can't comment and don't wish to comment. All I did mentioned was even I give up my PR I can't withdraw my cpf now and also mentioned West Malaysians withdrawing of CPF is the same as what governs Singaporean. Don't try to mix the 2 together

Also I believe you were the one who said West Malaysian can withdraw all their CPF in your Post #2429 but now you are saying otherwise in item 3. So ain't you contridictinig about your own statement also?

Let's face it, you can make corrections and I am all good but please don't get personal and trying to pick on me. The word entirely incorrect as far as I know means none of what I state is true. Anyway neither you nor me can give a complete detail explanation about withdrawing CPF

This post has been edited by catacomb: Sep 12 2012, 01:23 AM
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post Sep 12 2012, 06:22 AM

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if i am working in singapore but stay in jb all this while, what is the chances I can get PR? will this affect my PR application?
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post Sep 12 2012, 07:49 AM

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QUOTE(7up @ Sep 12 2012, 06:22 AM)
if i am working in singapore but stay in jb all this while, what is the chances I can get PR? will this affect my PR application?
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I got mine.. Stay in Singapore 1 year, then move to JB. Got my pr after working here 2 years.
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post Sep 12 2012, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(SSSnake @ Sep 11 2012, 06:02 PM)
Most probably will be out of my budget, considering with aircon.
How much you looking to rent it for?
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We are looking for single Malaysian Chinese tenant, $500 for the room. PM me for more info.
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post Sep 12 2012, 09:43 AM

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QUOTE(someone_stupid @ Sep 11 2012, 11:05 PM)
Just another question guys. I'm free next week from mon to wed. Do you think it's any use to go sg to look for jobs?
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Perhaps you can try walk in interview if you can find one...is the fastest. blush.gif


Added on September 12, 2012, 9:48 am
QUOTE(catacomb @ Sep 12 2012, 01:15 AM)
For item 1, it's not possible. I have checked with the officer from CPF board before. Even you were to change your address permanently to Sabah or Sarawak, you still cannot withdraw because they base on birth cerificate and not IC. Anyway don't quote me on this as I was told by the officer. I have checked alll means about how to withdraw out my cpf. And in my earlier post I did mentioned Sabahans and Sarawakians are able to withdraw their CPF and return to Sabah or Sarawak. I didn't use the word going back permanently because they are still able to return to Singapore and contribute back to CPF etc. I shall not go there into details

Item 2 I got no comment as I didn't check on that.

Item 3, I can't comment and don't wish to comment. All I did mentioned was even I give up my PR I can't withdraw my cpf now and also mentioned West Malaysians withdrawing of CPF is the same as what governs Singaporean. Don't try to mix the 2 together

Also I believe you were the one who said West Malaysian can withdraw all their CPF in your  Post #2429 but now you are saying otherwise in item 3. So ain't you contridictinig about your own statement also?

Let's face it, you can make corrections and I am all good but please don't get personal and trying to pick on me. The word entirely incorrect as far as I know means none of what I state is true. Anyway neither you nor me can give a complete detail explanation about withdrawing CPF
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Maybe is not pick on you, we all here trying to get and provide correct and helpful info to everyone who work in SG.
cheers~~

This post has been edited by yhoong12: Sep 12 2012, 09:48 AM
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post Sep 12 2012, 09:59 AM

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Hi guy, anyone here know is that any vacancy in network engineer job which suitable for freshie to join in Singapore? I am currently a EP holder with one year working experience in system engineer position. I have 4 CCNA academic certificate but still don't get my CCNA final exam certificate yet.
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need help here.. tongue.gif
my EP application status with remark " Pending inputs from vetting agencies. Expected outcome is 2 months from the Date of Application."..
2months rclxub.gif Has anyone seen this b4?
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post Sep 12 2012, 11:07 AM

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QUOTE(7up @ Sep 12 2012, 06:22 AM)
if i am working in singapore but stay in jb all this while, what is the chances I can get PR? will this affect my PR application?
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you still have to give a Sg residential address in your application
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post Sep 12 2012, 11:30 AM

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QUOTE(trythis @ Sep 12 2012, 09:59 AM)
Hi guy, anyone here know is that any vacancy in network engineer job which suitable for freshie to join in Singapore? I am currently a EP holder with one year working experience in system engineer position. I have 4 CCNA academic certificate but still don't get my CCNA final exam certificate yet.
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Going to change field from system engineer to network engineer? hmm.gif
can i ask why?
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post Sep 12 2012, 12:50 PM

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hi, let's say a EP holder want to resign and get another job in sg, what would the proper way to do it? Cancel current EP and let future employer apply new EP? How long it will take? Thanks
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QUOTE(athrun300 @ Sep 12 2012, 12:50 PM)
hi, let's say a EP holder want to resign and get another job in sg, what would the proper way to do it? Cancel current EP and let future employer apply new EP? How long it will take? Thanks
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Yes..normally this is how its done...your current company HR will cancel the EP...then your future employer will need to apply a new EP...how long it depends? can take u within a week to a month or 2 for a reply? As WHAT IF MOM rejects your new company's EP application...
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post Sep 12 2012, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(catacomb @ Sep 12 2012, 01:15 AM)
For item 1, it's not possible. I have checked with the officer from CPF board before. Even you were to change your address permanently to Sabah or Sarawak, you still cannot withdraw because they base on birth cerificate and not IC. Anyway don't quote me on this as I was told by the officer. I have checked alll means about how to withdraw out my cpf. And in my earlier post I did mentioned Sabahans and Sarawakians are able to withdraw their CPF and return to Sabah or Sarawak. I didn't use the word going back permanently because they are still able to return to Singapore and contribute back to CPF etc. I shall not go there into details
Submit the form and you'll get a formal assessment. Don't ask the officer over the counter.

And your original statement didn't mention anything about residency. You specifically mentioned giving up Malaysian citizenship. THAT was the gist of my attempt to correct you.

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Item 3, I can't comment and don't wish to comment. All I did mentioned was even I give up my PR I can't withdraw my cpf now and also mentioned West Malaysians withdrawing of CPF is the same as what governs Singaporean. Don't try to mix the 2 together
That was NOT "all" you mentioned. You had used a bunch of motherhood statements. I corrected that.

QUOTE(catacomb)
Also I believe you were the one who said West Malaysian can withdraw all their CPF in your  Post #2429 but now you are saying otherwise in item 3. So ain't you contridictinig about your own statement also?
I am not saying otherwise. Read the post again.

QUOTE(catacomb)
Let's face it, you can make corrections and I am all good but please don't get personal and trying to pick on me. The word entirely incorrect as far as I know means none of what I state is true. Anyway neither you nor me can give a complete detail explanation about withdrawing CPF
I'm not getting personal. I'm just being precise. The statement of yours that I quoted is entirely wrong.

And I'm not giving complete details. I'm merely correcting the motherhood statements that you made.

And the complete details are available on CPF's website, as well as the explanatory notes in the withdrawal application form.

This post has been edited by seantang: Sep 12 2012, 01:10 PM
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post Sep 12 2012, 01:19 PM

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QUOTE(deodorant @ Sep 11 2012, 11:12 PM)

No use. If you want to "look for job in SG," you need to come down and expect to stay here for 1-3 (or more) months. 3 days here you have almost zero chance of scoring any interview.
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Added on September 11, 2012, 11:14 pm

why don't you use those internet job portal instead?
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QUOTE(r1v3r @ Sep 11 2012, 11:36 PM)
How do you LOOK for jobs?

3 days random walk-in style? Get a copy of wan pao or sin Ming and start calling.

Else, most jobs need your CV and an appointment for interview.
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QUOTE(yhoong12 @ Sep 12 2012, 09:43 AM)
Perhaps you can try walk in interview if you can find one...is the fastest. blush.gif


Added on September 12, 2012, 9:48 am
Maybe is not pick on you, we all here trying to get and provide correct and helpful info to everyone who work in SG.
cheers~~
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I'm thinking of going through the papers and maybe making a call or two or something.. i don't know either rclxub.gif
tried the internet portal eg jobstreet but, haha not much response 3 of my applications were unsuccesful already guess just need to try even more whistling.gif

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QUOTE(yhoong12 @ Sep 12 2012, 11:30 AM)
Going to change field from system engineer to network engineer? hmm.gif
can i ask why?
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Actually, I am looking for network eng job since I grad(just at year 2010), and yes my current company offer me a position on network eng, but what actually work is like system eng(installing software, crone machine, deploy machine to new staff, or collect back machine from exiting staff that all ), so i call my self as system eng. >..<
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QUOTE(someone_stupid @ Sep 12 2012, 01:19 PM)
I'm thinking of going through the papers and maybe making a call or two or something.. i don't know either rclxub.gif
tried the internet portal eg jobstreet but, haha not much response 3 of my applications were unsuccesful already guess just need to try even more whistling.gif
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Even if newspaper, they also need time to arrange for your interview, 2~3 days is not enough for it.but just give it a try, if your financial is not an issue. thumbup.gif


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QUOTE(trythis @ Sep 12 2012, 01:36 PM)
Actually, I am looking for network eng job since I grad(just at year 2010), and yes my current company offer me a position on network eng, but what actually work is like system eng(installing software, crone machine, deploy machine to new staff, or collect back machine from exiting staff that all ), so i call my self as system eng. >..<
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Oh, more like IS support i think, but all the cert you gained, is also will lead you back to the same job, network engineer might be referring to internal network engineer and mostly will bao ka liao...

You want to work as network engineer, i think you wan to work related to internet stuff, i mean work online, correct me if i am wrong, then why not try software engineer?

This post has been edited by yhoong12: Sep 12 2012, 01:39 PM
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QUOTE(yhoong12 @ Sep 12 2012, 01:36 PM)
Even if newspaper, they also need time to arrange for your interview, 2~3 days is not enough for it.but just give it a try, if your financial is not an issue. thumbup.gif


Added on September 12, 2012, 1:39 pm
Oh, more like IS support i think, but all the cert you gained, is also will lead you back to the same job, network engineer might be referring to internal network engineer and mostly will bao ka liao...

You want to work as network engineer, i think you wan to work related to internet stuff, i mean work online, correct me if i am wrong, then why not try software engineer?
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erm as my programming skill is not that strong so I didnt think on software eng. haha. But for network engineer what I looking for is doing router switch configuration. blush.gif
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QUOTE(trythis @ Sep 12 2012, 01:45 PM)
erm as my programming skill is not that strong so I didnt think on software eng. haha. But for network engineer what I looking for is doing router switch configuration.  blush.gif
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But as i recall, this kind of router switch configuration job is more for system support, internal IS support of that kind of job. hmm.gif
maybe you can try on the three telco company, as they have the widest network in singapore. icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(trythis @ Sep 12 2012, 01:45 PM)
erm as my programming skill is not that strong so I didnt think on software eng. haha. But for network engineer what I looking for is doing router switch configuration.  blush.gif
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IP/MPLS? BGP/VRRP?

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