any luct student here?
i hear a lot of bad things n dark side related to luct...
is really luct so so so bad?

-confused & dilemma-

Hmm. Yeah. Any LUCT students here? Especially those who are studying Mass Comm. Is Mass Comm study there good? I know it's rather pricey. I have a friend who'z going over to Adelaide to study mass comm. I know the price of mass comm in luct is relatively high..but will going to Adelaide to study surpass the cost that is needed to study this field in LUCT ? Adelaide's not really big and I don't think living expenses there would be much higher. Around how much is the Mass Comm programe in LUCT ? Hope to get a reply ASAP =) Thanks!

I heard that Mass Comm in LKW is quite good but expensive loh.

Anway, this should be in Kopitiam gua.

err..u open a limp kok wank topic n oso a KBU..which do u wanna know actually ?

Almost every...wait, let me rephrase that.
Every single LUCT student, have spoken negatively about LUCT.

EVERY one of them, all my friends seem to hate LUCT although they're studying there. Ironic?

Among their main gripes are, the cost is way too high for the education they receive.
Albeit Taylors is expensive, you get what you pay for. Not in LUCT.

For Mass Comm, I have friends that study there that complain that their assigments, when they wanna use the video recorder and stuff, must reserve. By the time their turn, they already no time to use.

I've been into the classrooms, and they're bloody scary. Dark and drippy'ish. The walls are so unconducive and the entrances can make a vampire shriek it's heads off.

Then another of their complaints are that they never get to utilize the facilities fully. The gym? With a thousand row of bicycles are practically useless because nobody has the time to use them.
And they're forced to pay for the gym although they never use it.

Lots of me friends have shifted to T.O.A. and M.I.A instead.

Hmm. Yeah I heard about issue with the equipment(cameras, videocams) as well. That is the main reason why my friend wants to study abroad. Am asking around here and there so that I can make her stay..haha..oh well..guess it's best if I let her go ...* sigh * ..


Yep yep! TOA is good! It's freakin near everywhere! Haha! Pyramid...SS15..Sunway..Monash..

TOA keeps on showing off their batman drawing leh..dont tell me that is their only industry standard drawing ker. Anyways, I have a friend that studied in LKW and his course always dont have lecturers so he had to change college.

both!
lim kok wing for me is cz of da quality n reputation
kbu for me is all about $$$

hahah
ya batman.....saw the same ads evrywhere!

ya..that's y some of my fren say they so hate lim kok wing but y still study there.....

mass comm em.. if not wrong 66k

A fren of mine attended 1 lecture session in LUCT , before he even finish the lecture , he phone his mum to pick him up .

then straight went to TOA to register and now there is where he is studying

heard the lecturer is underpaid and overdue by few month
not surprise if many class dont have lecturer

Btw, TOA is ... ?

The One Academy.
It's located beside Sunway Pyramid, it's the kedai-kedai lidat then made into a college.

Among the reasons LKW is like so "High and mighty up on the clouds" is because of the reputation and the PR and Marketing team are excellent geniuse. Probabbly educated from Taylors or some uni in Australia anyway.

Nyahaha, for the cash you pay there, you'll be given better bang per buck in other institutes.
Amazing what you learn in 1 month of extensive daily research about the best place to study:P
Blowinnn ma horn!

This post has been edited by pizzaboy: Jan 6 2006, 12:32 PM

Lim Kok Weng really that bad? I don't really know much about it but ALL i know is that
- students are really into fashion kinda looks
- mostly are filthy rich
- the building is almost black in colour
- they have really good and nice canteen, but the price is still expensive
- got a Proton show room
- got a "7 eleven", clinic, hair cut...everything inside
- students are allowed to wear like Sunway students

IF you are keen on mass com, i recommand you to go to TOA Or even better if you are willing to go to the overseas (terms and conditions apply)

nobody support luct? lol!

*flame*
*flame*
*flame*

the one academy
the small college beside sunway pyramid
got mamak behind , chinese shop to the left and infront of highway

NOt all students are filthy rich lar. or my class is made up of poorer people ?

all things got it's good and bad.

btw, pizzaboy, where do u study?

I think this thread deserves to be here, as long as you guys can tone down on the spams (For example post #17).

So people, please discuss about the pros and cons, and stick to the topic. Else I might be forced to move it. Thank you.

exkay from being ''pm lai pm ki"
y not we discuss here..

take a look
http://gnitia.blogspot.com/2005/12/lkw-uni...-wat-u-get.html

OMG.. LKW college is so terrible.. lucky i didn't go there and study.. even TARC better than LKW..

I'm studying in MMU. Taking a course completely different from what I originally intended to do.
I wanted to fricken take Mass Comm in Taylors or HELP. In the end, thanks to my aunties complete disapproval, I'm stuck taking Management.
BravO~

Bah!!
I did get a nice LKW shirt though, it never gets dirty and it's material is good snuff.

i get a mail from lim kok wing recently...

Dear students from xxxx,

Limkokwing University College is now in Penang and we are offering
scholarships for all deserving SPM students. We are not looking for
students with straight A's but students who are active either in sports,
curricular activities, or are simply have talents for leadership.

We are also having our Open Day at our Penang Centre, located at
368-2-4, Belissa Row, Jalan Burma, Pulau Tikus, on the 7th and 8th of January
2005, from 10.00 am - 4.00 pm daily. It is above the Coffee Bean and
Segafreddo in Pulau Tikus, on the second floor.

Please visit us for on the spot registration and scholarship awards.
Please bring your School Leaving Certificate as proof of your
participation in society and clubs in your school. For more information please
download the scholarship form attached.

Or call us at 04-226 9892

Best Regards,
David Teh
Student Counsellor


what shall i do?

ignore them

Ignoring, would be utter stupidity.

Go ahead, go for the interview, remember, LKW is horrible for the mony you pay.
However, if you're not paying and you're being PAID to study, what's the matter there?
They have the reputation anyway.

hmm... u got $$ u can be a king at there... lecture oso can lap ur kasut...

dun belive?? take a time to visit their coll... mb u can see a some type sport car at there

seriously alot of my rich friends are going to there with their straight A's result.. they won't need these scholarship anyway to enter the college... are u serious about this?? if u rich like a millionaire they clean your shoes?? this is the 1st time i heard about it..

dun believe?? if u hav any fren like datuk datuk punya son...yang belajar kat coll tu... ask for them...

i'm poor... study at nilai coll onli...but hav time oso got visit my fren at lim kok wing lo...near onli mah...

I'm an luct student and i can clearly tell you we have alot of problems here in college from bursary (payment on the spot / but your deposit will take 6 months to get back), management(clubs and activities take so damn long to get authorized and organised and there is no funding for any club), teachers and students.

But I also believe all colleges have their problems, and what defines a college the most is what and how are the students. You cant stereotype all lict students as rich datuk sons and all wear expensive clothes. I came here specifically for the degree and the recognition and i got 1 year more, so i hope to make the best of what I can.

If your looking for courses depends on what type of courses.
Our architecture and mass com programmes are quite ok.. but dont take multimedia or fashion design here as the programmes are horrible

It's always the management that is problematic isn't it?
In MMU, the management is horrible and they never wanna use the more conventional way of informing students through those tepi jalan message boards of something.
Insist on using online message boards.
Menyampah.

I hate gauth jasmon's hair thick nose though. But that's totally unrelated. At least he's handsomer than LKW.

This post has been edited by pizzaboy: Jan 7 2006, 02:52 AM

well said nada...
every institution will have their own problems. besides, the grass is always greener on the other side. lol

the thing about limkokwing is the students dont like the lecturers and vice versa. students think the lecturers suck big time, the lecturers think the student are untalented.

for those who want to take up arts... please please please make sure you have some talents in arts first before saying that you want to be like tibor, or work for ILM.

i can see 80% of the students here (in limkokwing) are here because they thought they will be the hottest students in the world by being a limkokwing student! hey! it's not beverly hills 90210. and paris hilton is not studying here...

on the other hand... i can see the lecturers here are wasting their time... 9am, wait for 5pm to balik only... monday, wait for friday... weekends... 1st of the month, wait for end month salary masuk bank only. sigh!

tell students to be on time, but sendiri? dunno what time only arrive.

for those who wants to be an art lecturer, please please please be more professional... students need you... and try to upgrade yourself in your field. don't teach students how to design poster like how you did it in the 80s, or 70s, or 60s...

This post has been edited by ifer: Jan 7 2006, 10:04 AM

oh yes,i heard a lot of bad things about luct also.
my friend was taking p.a at the college and she kept on telling how the lecturer was always not in the class,and after one sem,
she was asked to switch to other course.
humm. and yet she has to pay the whole amount for the new course that she picked.
scary.

Is it really scary?

I study at luct and for the past two semesters I tried to get alot of things going in the college. 1 and a half years ago we had a dilema with the buses that pick up students from the hostel in cyberjaya and in kelana jaya. They wanted us to pay 50rm per month for a bus ticket. They told us three days before they instilled this plan to us. Within the next three days i heard a million complains from everyone and but no one did a thing about it. I then started a quick petition and got up to 300 people to sign it and pass it to student services. As much as you can blame the lecturers there its also the students mentality la. The students there are dependant so much on luct, what are they expecting from the college?

Most students in art colleges dont have the mentality to :

1) Ask questions to find out more
2) read more
3) do somethingwhen theres a problem, instead of being part of the problem
4) on presentation day everyone seems like their going to faint.
5) get easily insulted when people criticise or comment on their works (or worst, no one cares to comment each other)

Of course not, b****ing and moaning gets people places. I would say epitome of the word spoon feeding. Imagine our lecturers and management is our government, will we blame all our problems on them? When some of the problems can be solve by students themselves. Its the same everywhere, you dont like it then protest la. Thats what a few college universities did because they felt their college didnt do enough for them so they held a protest (read TheEdge).

you think you have it bad the locals?

Think about foreign students who come here and get cheated and conned.
In their visa, hostel, transportation and etc.

All I have to say has anyone done anything to fix things in their college or university?

money is one of them prob..
but the most important things is the quality...
can i learn sth from there?
wat i have learnt can i use it in my future?
this is the thing i worry about...
neway, anyone taking thier interior design degree in luct?
recently, i found that the interior design which link wif curtin is like em...i cant find it in luct brocure recently or another word adsvertisement....
the course is death or still running?
may i noe it?
thanx....

LKW only care about money's not students future.. if u rich enough to pay the LKW school fees and everything u can lepak anytime you want without attending classes.. because LKW think those students who are rich have their power to do anything in their Uni.. LKW is a Uni that talk about money not your future.. no money?? no talk.. that's what i heard from my friends..

ask u know.. after your SPM.. there isn't spoon feeding anymore.. 60% of the lesson is learned by yourself.. the lecturer only teach you about 40% of it and the rest is up to you whether u wanna study or not..

This post has been edited by Sim (2): Jan 7 2006, 11:59 AM

And other universities dont care about money? They care about students future?

Are you sure? Colleges and universities are businesses as well and some people have even said its the new market. Tell me any university in Malaysia that offers fantastic programmes at low prices? Didn't think so. Tell me any university that doesnt have some lousy lecturers or a few bad facilities?

From what I constantly hear is that all private colleges/unis have better facilities than public colleges or unis. But from what I can see since i'm a lict student is that our neighbours at MMU are doing much better in the market once they graduate as well as their work. You ever thought people have different agendas?

Some people wanna have a recognized degree for GD and lict is the only local place to get it. Its still very very much cheaper than going overseas.
I'm still there because it is the only place in Malaysia to provide a Bachelor of Arts Degree 3 + 0 for Graphic Design. So please dont stereotype all of us at lict because you wouldnt want me to stereotype other people in other colleges.

This post has been edited by nada-: Jan 7 2006, 12:05 PM

learning is, i would say, 70% from the students and 30% from the lecturers.

but the thing is, students in limkokwing solely depend (100%) from the lecturers...

they dont do follow-up. they dont do their own research.

they cincai do some work and expect to get As... and if lecturer give them not so good grades or fail them... they complain to the honourable tan sri limkokwing... saying that his dad, who is also a tan sri, pays dunno berapa millions for him to study there...

so, he must get an A, or a pass... when he produce works that even a kindergarden kid will spit on it.

so, lecturers here lost the motivation to teach.

either way... it's actually a chicken or egg situation here...

it's extreamly true that nada says they dont read. a simple project brief telling them what to do (e.g. deadline is on monday 9am)... and they still bombarded the lecturers on questions about when to submit the work...

nada, i thought KBU provides BA in graphic design also... better still, it's a BA (Hons)...

dont talk like every LUCT student is freaking rich. some are from moderate family also, have to loan/work hard to go in there. Some student are really there to study. Maybe they're low profile ppl, you dont get to see them "outing" so much. I beleive every private college in Malaysia are also looking for $, just that how bad are they.

If you aint getting what you paid for, then why still continue it? When i was there, there's still couple of good lecturers (this matter a lot). Where you can really learn a lot from them. But you still need to work hard. Ask many question in the class or out the class to learn something that you wont in class. Don't expect the lectuere to spoon-feed you everything. You wanna know more, you have to ask. That's the way I survive 3 years there. But, back then their fee wasnt that high...

em as i noe kbu do offered Bachelor of Arts Degree 3 + 0 for Graphic Design....

frankly till noew i still wonder y luct student talk a lot of bad thuings related to thier school compare to others colllege..
is luct smarter than others? lol..

I m in my last year as I said.
KBU doesnt have the recognition in their degree and they didnt have the degree 2 years back. I also selected Lict because it is a fully art college and i was in the old campus back at mayang (as i prefer). Their degree is also from curtin univeristy as well.

Who said luct students are smarter? What conclusion did you get that from?
The intelligence depends on different students as state by wei. Different students with different agendas.

I dont get why people like to b**** about rich datuks son, when I can ask how do they affect you in studying in a college? Rich people affect your choice of college? I find that quite bizzare. Leave the b****ing at the door and become more open to things la

wei used to spent one whole day creating fake ice cream for studio photography... lol

i din say thier r smarter..just wonder..

ya now i really cant make a desicion right away..
how is the condition in mayang? i mean teaching staff, lecturer etc...

the enviroment in LKW isnt very good....
last time i even saw students smoking in campus...
students there are quite rich...
girls there wear clothe are quite sexy..... (adv for guys... just joking)

i almost wanna enrol into LKW...
i heard that their courses for mngt are quite good...
but after seeing the situation there...
it's a big NO~NO~ for me...

it's ur choice to choose which uni or college
but make sure ur choice that u choosed suits u

that's why u are in MMU right?? haha..

all of my friends are going to enroll to LKW but after i saw some review and comments about LKW i feel like i don't wanna go there..

im oso in a 50-50 position~
help me......

how is the scholarship in luct?

This post has been edited by erxier: Jan 7 2006, 12:31 PM

yup...
now in MMU o...
next year going to CJ...
also somewhere near LKW...
but NOT in LKW....

CJ?? where is that?? i better talk to you at MMU thread la..

what course u wanna take?

This post has been edited by Sim (2): Jan 7 2006, 12:33 PM

erm....
for scholarship....
u must be very very very smart... or i can say genius....
it's not ez to get their scholarship....
UTAR or TARC is the easiest college or uni to get a scholarship...
( i got their scholarship... )

interior design

ya..
recently i get a mail from luct..
u may find it at previous post...
my achievement in koku is em can i say very good (sorry to saying that ) then my study is em ook..


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oh....
LKW's arts r not bad....
did u eer consider the one acedemy? APIIT??

hmm.. interior design.. i recommend u to go LKW.. because what i heard from my friend at there that interior design course are quite good.. others i have no comment..


if not u can enroll to cenford college at kl..

This post has been edited by Sim (2): Jan 7 2006, 12:42 PM

the one din have it..
only 2 college offered degree prog in this course
kbu n luct

em....i counted b4,,,,
if i go to kbu to take tat course, all fees n accomodation(4 years) is around 107850
then if luct (fees + accomodation = 160000++) around that....
so must think carefully... 60++ wor...


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yup.. it's your choice whether u can afford or not.. think before u made your final decision.. i'm also thinking now..

ya money is da prob!!!
no $ no talk!!
yup thats y want to get the scholarship from luct,
or maybe loan?
ptptn loan? em...

wat course r u taking now?

now i'm currently thinking this 2 course.. i donno which one to choose.. 1 is computer science and other is software engineering..

haha, that was really fun
atleast get something done, too bad the slide turn out no good.

i still love photography

erxier....
u can try to apply for ptptn....
no worries la.... ptptn only needs 3 Credits in SPM....
that's for ur tuition fees... but i am not sure about living exp...
or try to apply loan.... if ur SPM result can fulfill their requirement...
i think u can get it de la.....

btw~
i think u two try to chat in other place o... or PM
this thread is about LKW...
later ppl scold o...
i cabut 1st....

I'd expect 98% of LKW students to pay themselves, not with PTPTN.
If you wanna use PTPTN, it might be more plausible an idea to go with TOA.

The living expenses may not be much cheaper, but there would be less peer pressure. Trust me, peer pressure drives you to spend money more than the living standards.
Like, what the hell's students driving BMW 3 series for? There are like 4 kids in MMU that drives 3-series, and 3 of them are foundation students.
Berlagak ka?

Or wy not MMU Cj? Really, why not MMU Cj? Ever considered?

foundation students only can be found in mlk... except for CM....
u are talking about mlk or CJ???

The BMW kids are from MMU Mlk.

Since this fler wants to take a course off LKW, I assume he wants to do design kinda stuff, so I suggest CJ.

Anyway, I think you can take Foundation in CJ right? Not necesarrily must be in Mlk. Not sure though.

Cyberjaya campus did offer Foundation. But in CREATIVE MULTIMEDIA ONLY
For others like Engineering, IT, Business, Law ONLY MELAKA offering it...
and pls check on this.. hating to repeat same stuff repeatedly again and again before asking the same question again...
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=210223

wow .. after reading this ..

i feel so glad that i didn't enter LKW as i was thinking of entering it not so long ago ..

I sure, don't remember asking you to repeat nor did I even ask you.
You pandai-pandai wanna tell, it's obviously your choice. Why so worked out? Typical SFI style.

I somehow think with this thread, soon LKW is gonna go bakrupt if it goes public. LoL~

This post has been edited by pizzaboy: Jan 7 2006, 04:04 PM

somehow this thread turned to be MMU thread this is LKW thread OK stick to the topic..


off topic - u want to apply to MMU?the dateline for february intake closed already. wait for june intake if u want to enter.only alpha CM in cyber others in melaka.

when is the next intake for luct? i mean after FEB intake..

Nobody mentioned MIA yet? It's better than LKW..

*offtopic:em....u may open a tread for mia..

LUCT after FEB intake... there is an APRIL intake

every 2 months got intake?

nah... the big intake it actually the FEB and JUNE/JULY
smaller one is APRIL and SEPT

the one academy is better than LUCT but then again, LUCT offers more programs.


luct class.

luct library


-photo taken, year 2004

is that a lot of peer pressure in lkw?
most of them r anak datuk datuk?

erxier,
what's your purpose of studying in limkokwing?
afraid of peer pressure?

my advice, dont mix with those datuk's sons or any VIP students...
they are 100% rubbish and useless...
unless you are into being luke perry (beverly hills 90210) and wolf whistling hot babes in limkokwing and driving hot cars and being IN person!

you will be better off mixing with students who really study. and to be honest, there are some of them. it's the bad students who somehow make limkokwing's name bad.

my fren borrowed 40K for his diploma in animation LUCT
now he needs to work 3 years for LUCT to pay back

i second that. choosing the right fren will matter a lot.

ya peer pressure really can 'kill' someone..
hahah...

wat is my purpose studing in lkw?
well, i want to have a bright future and near wf my dreams...
but..$ wil be my prob..
anyone gets scholarship from lkw b4?
how much wil they give it?
or how many percent....

i see that u really want to go to LKW.so if u have make up ur mind,then u better just go,do what u want.

u r right!
i really wish to get into it but $$$ is my prob~~
what i can do is juz popi to hope that i wil get flying colours in my spm!

if u have money problem why don't u apply for study loan?

yaya...
im watching around lol...
since my result will out soon..

sorry...
me again...

i get an offer from luct..
they give me 30k for a local degree..
but what i want is a foreign degree..
what i mean is luct did offer 2 interior design course
1 is BA(hons) interior design link with curtin
another one is BA inierior architecture, it's luct own degree..
so should i take da offer?
but wat's the difference between this 2 course? xcept one is a foreign degree and a honour degree...
BA(hons) interior design & BA interior architecture

thank a million..

what u mean luct give u 30k?

i would rather go for the BA (Hons) and yeah, what you mean by them giving you 30k?

for scholarship...
im thinking of it...
local degree vs foreign degree
hons vs non hons..
which 1 is better? but i found that in interior design field they din require too much on local or foreign , hons or not hons..
so?
anyone?

i suggest u better study in local if u have money problem..

what u mean in local?
local u? local degree?

kbu 3+0 degree tuition fees oso almost the same with luct BA interior architecture...

local degree.. because if you go study foreign degree.. it will cause much trouble for your parents..

This post has been edited by Sim (2): Jan 11 2006, 12:46 PM

wouldnt it be most wise to go to limkokwing and straighten this issue out?
That way as well you can inspect the campus, get brochures, quotations and etc for the campus. You cant ask for peoples opinon here if you dont show some intiative to go to limkokwing to find out as well. No offence intended.