I'm an luct student and i can clearly tell you we have alot of problems here in college from bursary (payment on the spot / but your deposit will take 6 months to get back), management(clubs and activities take so damn long to get authorized and organised and there is no funding for any club), teachers and students.

But I also believe all colleges have their problems, and what defines a college the most is what and how are the students. You cant stereotype all lict students as rich datuk sons and all wear expensive clothes. I came here specifically for the degree and the recognition and i got 1 year more, so i hope to make the best of what I can.

If your looking for courses depends on what type of courses.
Our architecture and mass com programmes are quite ok.. but dont take multimedia or fashion design here as the programmes are horrible

Is it really scary?

I study at luct and for the past two semesters I tried to get alot of things going in the college. 1 and a half years ago we had a dilema with the buses that pick up students from the hostel in cyberjaya and in kelana jaya. They wanted us to pay 50rm per month for a bus ticket. They told us three days before they instilled this plan to us. Within the next three days i heard a million complains from everyone and but no one did a thing about it. I then started a quick petition and got up to 300 people to sign it and pass it to student services. As much as you can blame the lecturers there its also the students mentality la. The students there are dependant so much on luct, what are they expecting from the college?

Most students in art colleges dont have the mentality to :

1) Ask questions to find out more
2) read more
3) do somethingwhen theres a problem, instead of being part of the problem
4) on presentation day everyone seems like their going to faint.
5) get easily insulted when people criticise or comment on their works (or worst, no one cares to comment each other)

Of course not, b****ing and moaning gets people places. I would say epitome of the word spoon feeding. Imagine our lecturers and management is our government, will we blame all our problems on them? When some of the problems can be solve by students themselves. Its the same everywhere, you dont like it then protest la. Thats what a few college universities did because they felt their college didnt do enough for them so they held a protest (read TheEdge).

you think you have it bad the locals?

Think about foreign students who come here and get cheated and conned.
In their visa, hostel, transportation and etc.

All I have to say has anyone done anything to fix things in their college or university?

And other universities dont care about money? They care about students future?

Are you sure? Colleges and universities are businesses as well and some people have even said its the new market. Tell me any university in Malaysia that offers fantastic programmes at low prices? Didn't think so. Tell me any university that doesnt have some lousy lecturers or a few bad facilities?

From what I constantly hear is that all private colleges/unis have better facilities than public colleges or unis. But from what I can see since i'm a lict student is that our neighbours at MMU are doing much better in the market once they graduate as well as their work. You ever thought people have different agendas?

Some people wanna have a recognized degree for GD and lict is the only local place to get it. Its still very very much cheaper than going overseas.
I'm still there because it is the only place in Malaysia to provide a Bachelor of Arts Degree 3 + 0 for Graphic Design. So please dont stereotype all of us at lict because you wouldnt want me to stereotype other people in other colleges.

This post has been edited by nada-: Jan 7 2006, 12:05 PM

I m in my last year as I said.
KBU doesnt have the recognition in their degree and they didnt have the degree 2 years back. I also selected Lict because it is a fully art college and i was in the old campus back at mayang (as i prefer). Their degree is also from curtin univeristy as well.

Who said luct students are smarter? What conclusion did you get that from?
The intelligence depends on different students as state by wei. Different students with different agendas.

I dont get why people like to b**** about rich datuks son, when I can ask how do they affect you in studying in a college? Rich people affect your choice of college? I find that quite bizzare. Leave the b****ing at the door and become more open to things la

wouldnt it be most wise to go to limkokwing and straighten this issue out?
That way as well you can inspect the campus, get brochures, quotations and etc for the campus. You cant ask for peoples opinon here if you dont show some intiative to go to limkokwing to find out as well. No offence intended.

Its true what sim(2) has said. Nowadays a degree is like a passport, it gurantees you a certain amount payment higher than a diploma but at the same time people are hired more on skills and attitude in a design field (multimedia and architecture excluded).

Degrees are easy to get as long as you got the $$$.

what people want to hear in here is juicy gossips of how shit a school is.

guanteik obviously listed very important and strong reasons to study there as you can see from his comments

why you care how people dress? or if they have 'nice' things? or if their rich?
I really dont get how people come to conclusion of things. It definitely shows me your a very visual person who judges everything by their appearences. I study at lict, and it isnt a grand ball la. The lecturers for GD overall is good and i've learnt alot. It just depends on different individuals la. Dont always ask what do they have?, but what are you looking for? When posting and interested in lict at least give a set criteria of what your looking for la... you come in here and go "so how ???? how??".

And if your so interested in our rich kids and fashion wear please come and visit us and take pictures

cheers

its amazing to see people just make up such rumours that if you study at luct it cost the same as overseas. Can you please enlighten me more regarding about this? I'm definitely sure that NZ, Australia, UK, Europe, Japan and US are definitely of the list, so please feel free to tell me where is that 'overseas' place that is similar to luct? Have you ever thought of other expenses if locals stay overseas? Did you know an indonesian that comes and studies here has to pay more money than I do if I study at lict?

Aiya all of you just pull out juicy gossips you want to hear. You dont want an education, you just wanna b**** about people that go there. If you got a bad experience at luct then leave the place and go somewhere else la.
There is no such thing as you cant fail as I myself have failed one semester there. Dont listen to rumours and the whole bullshit. If you really care for your own personal education go and check it out la.

All this intelligent people talking about rich datuk's son and how people wear clothes. It really tells me what kind of people you are la, the type that spread rumours and love juicy gossip.

Aiyo, all of you are like 3 year olds. You had a bad experience at LICT so boo-hoo la, if you actually read behind limkokwing.blogspot.com all he wanted to do is flame every single thing that lict is doing.
I dont see any problem with that but i do find it particularly funny that even though he doesnt like limkokwing one bit he wishes to study there for over 2 years? A person who complained so much about administration and our bursary as well as our student services but lack any real balls and maturity to start a petition or do anything productive in lict.

Of course its easier to b**** about a place and pick and point every single mistake of a place then it is easier to actually do something about the problem isnt it? What all these people are doing is just adding more to the problem cuz from my own personal understanding i find it hilarious that all these limkokwing students who hate the school still study there? Then either go and come up with solutions or go to another college, if you can afford limkokwing i'm sure you can afford cenfad or the One.

And just let me ask la.. all thse people who spend such precious amount of time on friendster and anonymous names on blogspots flaming people are the exact kind of people are being productive in school and society right? I mean after all they are doing alot... they b**** in a friendster account which no lict staff will read and definitely helps more than the person who sued lict over an issue of pushing a semester forward and winning the case.
No wonder I see geniuses are the people who do all the b****ing and complaining 24/7 and do nothing. Excuse me for my sarcasm but I've put up with so long with people who love to b**** about a place they study but do not participate in anything that helps make the college better. After all you are paying your fees, you can start a club, you can form a petition by students and parents, write to bloody newspapers and go to MPs or watever... no.. but i think i should sit behind my PC and say "lict sux"..

nuff said.

First of all I would like to ask do you study at limkokwing or have you heard marvelous gossips about the place from so and so.

Lecturers are not good teachers and teaching is just a hobby for them? If you've had a bad experience with some lecturers why haven't u formed a complaint? Or why not change lecturers by forming a petition, thats what my class and I did because we found the lecturer bias. Overall I can say my lectruers are engaging, intelligent quite strict but helpful. Its the system of the school that has to change la, the administration and the payment (bursary) is in such a mess.

Are you trying to insult all of us with your stupid stereotype analysis that all of us are rich and glamourous? Mind you I might be so damn rich thats why i take the bus from kota raya to go to school everyday and so do alot of other people. Appearences and beauty defines talented, which school or juicy gossip did you get that from, from your sources obviously your not very smart are you? If we are all so talented why is there over 80,000 unemployed graduates and a high number of them is IT students and Design students. Please give us some substantial facts instead of statements with little impact or evidence.

Education overseas is experience? Why dont you create your own experience through internships or working in design studios or freelance during your holidays?

Limkokwing might have alot of potholes in alot of places and alot of problems with administration and payment, but do realise there are alot of people who are studying there to get their Degrees and it is far cheaper then going overseas because of the exchange rate (Aussie .. please convert the exchange rate.. places like RMIT and Curtin is how much? You think we dont know the figures already is it?). So eventhough I'm studying there now and there is problems I want to find solutions to solve them and the least thing we need is people talking about juicy gossips.

I would like to ask how does a rich student and glamorous student affect your studying? What relevance is there to wat ur saying to studying there? You get easily influenced or left out because of them and they affect your studies?
Please la omg.. give us some substantial information e.g "lict got sued by students due to a problem in the hair programme"... not some stupid things about rich datuks and juicy gossips.

Doesnt anyone ever get tired of constantly coming in here to post more stupid and irrelevant information about rich kids and more juicy gossips?

1st of all I dont represent Limkokwing, but I get irritated when people say "that place is full of rich kids la all datuks sons with no talent", what is your insane problem with this issue?

The problem is lies in the students as much as the college or university... the students have the power to change certain things in their environment if they have the determination, maturity and knowledge to do so. It isnt just "Oh we all should complain....", but the way you go around doing it. Just look at our 80,000 unemployed graduates where 1/3 are from the design/IT sector.

The problem with design students is a million problems. They make life complicated and hard for themselves.

As much as a place or an environment is a problem do students take part in getting involved not just in their educational environment but later in society? Are they intelligent not just to question but ask intelligent and relevant questions that make them more knowledgable? Are they able to find internships or information on their own?

True that overseas provide more 'experience' than malaysia, but a large number of us cant afford to fly to US, england or australia to study there. So when we study here we make do with what we have. If you dont like what is happening in your environment then change it... Go read TheEdge magazine and see what the students did when they didn't agree with what was happening with their colleges.

As said earlier... u can only get so much from an insititution and limkokwing has quite a few problems.. but when you say that you are who you are because of lict .. then your not taking responsiblites.

You think in malaysia design schools that they are 100% interested in teaching us? Please la.. design schools are the new money making machines. Schools dont teach practical and the business side of design.. as well as marketing strategies and branding ones self. Our unemployed graduates is because of the 'spoon - feeding' mentality of students and also because they choose to be exploited. You are only exploited if you choose to be la.

So lets associate that your in this 'problematic environment', will you either adapt to it or just continue moaning through-out your 3 years there?

Yea la alot of us got fooled by Lict... so we tell others about it.. but going to such extreme points of foul mouthing until we just think why do i study there?
After all lict is not a cheap school and im sure u could afford other ones... other than theONE academy there is plentiful of other design schools... why not go there instead?

Edited by Geminist: Double posts merged

This post has been edited by Geminist: Feb 10 2006, 12:53 AM

Before you make urself look dumb please refrain yourself. Are you trying to threaten me to exposing lecturers name here? I'm a student from GD sem 6 and I dont support lict or agree with many of its ways, but i dont make everything that is a problem an excuse for me or for others to not do well. Who the hell is Grace btw? I dont know every single lecturer in lict. You talk about respecting the lecturers? , please read your own comment and see what you said. My fair share of lecturers have been very good and the ones that have done a crap job I wrote a petition and we changed teacher. I even wrote a petition to make the bus prices lower when they instilled it last time 100RM per month to everyone. I got over 800 student names and a large student body to disagree with this. What are you doing to fix the problems? You have a solution as well what,.. you can leave and go to other colleges? No one is forcing you to study lict and its an expensive school after all... go take where you money is worth.

Such things as you said regarding bursary and student services I said do such a botched up job every single time and of course I can see how being rich and glamourous is maybe an essential for you to study at such a place but how relevant is it to a person wanting to study there? I can clearly see from your writing your not a very intelligent student and your problem is that you want to blame everything on all the problems in lict. As I said have you started any petitions from students or parents? Gone to the malay mail or sued lict if its such a horrendous school? And my last question is if you can well afford lict and it is so shit as you say why not move to cenfad? or MIA? or theONE? I love how people can complain in a situation when they have choices but they choose to be oblivious and play the 'distraught victim.
You are one of those students who in particular probably b**** about lict 24/7 but has done completely nothing at all to make it slightly better... not for LICT... but for yourself.