you don't get tiki taka from 3 or 4 years. It took Barca about 8-10 years to get that. 10 millions of 8-12 years old of youngster, 8 to 10 years of training in proper football career schedule la masia. And with a wonder kid like Messi, only then you get tiki taka. Tiki taka without Messi is a big difference from the one with. Messi without tiki taka is also a big difference from the one with. As you can see from World cup 2010. Spanish though won the world cup, didn't score more than 2 GD every match, mostly won with 1-0 or 2-1 while Argentine failed to get even into the semi finals with Messi, Tevez, Aguero, Di Maria and alot other stars.

you don't get tiki taka from 3 or 4 years. It took Barca about 8-10 years to get that. 10 millions of 8-12 years old of youngster, 8 to 10 years of training in proper football career schedule la masia. And with a wonder kid like Messi, only then you get tiki taka. Tiki taka without Messi is a big difference from the one with. Messi without tiki taka is also a big difference from the one with. As you can see from World cup 2010. Spanish though won the world cup, didn't score more than 2 GD every match, mostly won with 1-0 or 2-1 while Argentine failed to get even into the semi finals with Messi, Tevez, Aguero, Di Maria and alot other stars.

Can you believe this?

http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/football/8993...ter-city-switch

go study la

Can you believe this?

http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/football/8993...ter-city-switch

4 millions? Better keep and play him.

What did Rafa win before Valencia ? What did Villa Boas win before Porto ? How about Klopp or Conte before becoming head coaches for Dortmund and Juventus respectively? Who was Shankly before he ended up at Liverpool ?

Sometimes, to break the cycle - you have to do the unexpected. You have to go for the long shot and take the risk. I've no idea if Martinez will be that man, as there are no guarantees in football. But he's young, modern and energetic. If he or any other manager for that matter, can inject those characteristics into the team then we stand a chance to surge forward.

I dunno how many of us watches Wigan play, but during our games against them, they look like a good attacking side. Football pundits did mention that Martinez team plays nice football but were unlucky not to get the results.

But then again, wasn't that the story of our season as well? Hmmm, mix feelings..

4 millions? Better keep and play him.

Can you believe this?

http://www.metro.co.uk/sport/football/8993...ter-city-switch

Anyway, looking back at EPL's most successful manager and you'll have this

Fergie
Wenger
Mourinho

Now what is common about them is that they are NOT BIG NAMES when they came to MU, Arsenal and Chelsea.  They were bigger names around that time.  The press even asked `Arsene WHO?' .  Of course, Fergie and Mourinho already won some titles but it was still a gamble, considering that it was Scottish and Portuguese football...

What is clear is that all 3 have clear football philosophies.  They are clear on what they want to achieve on the field and how to achieve it.  And the players respond to them from day 1....

Well, its always a gamble.  AVB was touted as someone similar.  Rafa was also seen as someone with cutting edge footballing ideas (although I don't think he was a failure in his time with Liverpool). Perhaps what these 2 did not have was man-management skills.  Fergie knew his politics well, pampering and protecting his star players while going head on against the trouble makers.  And we all know Mourinho can make players run past a wall for him...

good point u have there..but except for JM, the other two managers have TIME on their side with the backing of the club...now ask this question, do our owners willing to give time to the new manager to build the squad?..do they willing to sacrifice financially if we missed out UCL next season?..if the answer is YES, im all for it...give me AVB or Rogers

i don't think KD dismissal is entirely because of 1 season failure.  FSG is pure investor and they look at league and CL as our priority.  They sanction pretty large sum of transfer fund.  All these is against a target to get us back into CL where to FSG is where the ROI is.  Carling and FA would be bonus if we win.

Seeing how we struggle to stay in the CL contention so early, couple with the recent news that Carroll was offer as swap for Tevez, i think FSG just feel we need a new direction.  Honestly, i dun think FSG care much about our home losses so much like we do.  If we lost all our home match and yet made it to top 4, i think they wud just keep quiet while we rumble.

I juz dun think its was instant success where FSG expect us to win the tittle or all competition we enter but rather the manner we miss our target the club set early in the season.  If we were neck to neck fighting for 4th and miss it on the last day, KD would be around.  We were 17pts off 4th and 37pts off the champion.  Its a really huge gap there.

Reds consider Brendan Rodgers
May 18, 2012
By Harry Harris, Football Correspondent

ESPN understands Liverpool have made a formal approach to Swansea City over holding talks with their manager Brendan Rodgers.

Liverpool are in the process of identifying a replacement for Kenny Dalglish after they sacked the Scot on Wednesday following a poor Premier League season.

Wigan Athletic chairman Dave Whelan confirmed on Thursday that he has granted the Reds permission to have discussions with boss Roberto Martinez, who guided the Latics to top flight survival this campaign.

Promising coach Rodgers has also been targeted, after he enjoyed an impressive debut term as Swansea's style of football received numerous plaudits.

The Reds, though, have a shortlist of as many as ten names, with Borussia Dortmund's Jurgen Klopp and Marseille's Didier Deschamp among those reported to be potential candidates.

Former England manager Fabio Capello has also been mentioned, but it is understood the Italian favours Chelsea, who are yet to appoint a permanent successor to Andre Villas-Boas - with Roberto Di Matteo currently in interim charge.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story/_/...rodgers?cc=4716

Looks like we're approaching all the candidates in FSG's list. Martinez probably has equal chance of landing the job with the other candidates, so relax guys, he hasn't got the job yet.