pretty much.

any new manager will ask (or demand) a bigger war crest, then the long awaited new stadium will just fade away.

Dalglish & every liverpool fan are dissapointed with the season (league). He did get it quite right or tick every box but who does at the first full season before those might remind me that mourino was pretty much a messiah like in every club he joined, i think mournino's nett spend is

let KD get a slap on the wrist, we work again.

Raiding Spanish players? Think not

some might say they are good enough hence the relegation.
But their salary.... I don't think any will be considered

Should he be slagged as not true fan? I'm sorry if the statement sound controversial. But it begs the question, why can't it be asked?

Personally I believe, not yet. (even if I never wanted him to be dumped after that 1 bad year despite many calling for his exit)

I'll still stand behind him for next season (dalglish)

It's is not good to have the silence, no official word, the speculation (dalglish & clarke to USA)

I know the owners must think carefully and not rush on it but but... the fans

This post has been edited by koolspyda: May 16 2012, 06:07 PM

On this score, I wouldn't place the Cowdungs H&G and FSG on the same level. One leveraged us, placed us in stupid risk till we were 1 day short of going into administration, the other wiped out our debt, and seemingly a long term vision, inviting/drawing better commercial deals & mullah to the club.


I think it's different, the club must show & back the manager else have a game plan, it will wreck potential transfers as incoming players arent sure whose calling the shots.

Operating behing closed door on dealings, transfers is fine, but at large others need to be assured.(as in hamann reported quip)


This post has been edited by koolspyda: May 16 2012, 06:29 PM

thanks for the memories, K Dalglish

gutted.


it will be difficult for liverpoolfc. its now likely we'll be years more in the wilderness.



The current core of the liverpool squad isn't good enough to crack into CL spot (any where near 4th spot next season), and I don't know any manager let alone rafa can pull it off. As much as i think rafa should be the candidate, i'm thinking its maybe premature for liverpoolfc investing in him. maybe FSG thinks rafa is difficult (hence afraid) and may get another round of fans to revolt if funds are streaming in???



i cant exactly would blame FSG for hiring KD back then (as some of the forumers pointed), They hired KD because WE the fans wanted Roy out AND at that time the popular sentiment from us was towards KD. Liverpool didnt have much time as we were close to trelegation then, what KD did for the next 6 months gave the impression he's up for it. How can FSG not employ KD after what we all thought too he 'saved' us & brought us close to fighting for places in 2010-2011. What happened in 2011-2012 completely spoiled for KD (which is partly his believe in the downing, adam, henderson and the complete waste of money on carroll)

This post has been edited by koolspyda: May 17 2012, 04:50 AM

H&G

i'm pretty sure rafa help to point out the glaring non supporting then owners to the fans (hence the big dissatisfaction displayed/banners of the "owners out")

having said that, i see the end of carrager, bellamy & probably even gerrard careers if rafa comes back. i think the owners will go for Roberto Martinez, though i fancy Jürgen Klopp

This post has been edited by koolspyda: May 17 2012, 05:07 AM

i'm sure the news filtered to our liverpool captain with mixed emotions. he was given the england captain armband & the news of Dalglish leaving, all within couple of hours.

I don't know who can help liverpool, given the under performing british players as the big part/core in the squad. WE paid big, selling them cheap will mean BIG knock of our coffers. (Blame comolli if you want for wasting on british but bit mediocre, they are ok as squad players, just not the steel for a big club like liverpool

forgoing another shot at top four again??

i think KD was offered but he felt it wasnt required. (for him either the manager or nothing)

if i'm in KD shoes, as in any job prospects, i too would decline.


anyway

this is what i picked up from rafa benitez website/forum
(question was posted on 6th May 2012)

reply not written by the man himself but his admin of the website; though he (rafa) does reply on other occasions, though when matters pertaining to liverpoolfc, he usually reserves himself our of respect on any part on tactics/team selection of KD. (its in his forums@rafabenitez.com).

You can dissect if it's really rafa on the other end when you know his response seems a little lack of english emotions (usually written in bold and but seemingly short/aburt & short much like the fin' Kimi raikonen how he responses )



btw senoir benitez himself is in Cardiff (15-16th May), speaker at the UEFA Pro Licence Course on ‘Modern Times, Modern Managers’.

This post has been edited by koolspyda: May 17 2012, 08:02 AM

we fans too need to embrace the true colors of the modern business football. it's business, business, business nowadays.

Not that we need to sell our soul but realise the fact certain things cannot be left just on pure sentiments. hate it or feel ambivalent about it, FSG is as what ian ayre did mentioned, about ROI.

The devils, ManU realised this aeons ago & capitalised it quickly. much has been said of their fans, though there is a certain enviousness on how they managed to build itself into the the biggest football business. Sure, some of them may remind of the debt glazers has put in. Turning it around, their accounting figures will show how much the football club rakes, even Real Madrid is only second to them. <comments above are only in regard to their ka-chingness, please some lfc fans don't read this & turn it into, "u might as well go support ManU"

This post has been edited by koolspyda: May 17 2012, 07:44 AM

hmm, buying spain success? or buying into the hard work that made barcelona for what they are today?
barcelona isn't from pep guardiola.

the current barcelona blueprint began from johan cruff/frank rijkaard onwards. The question will then be to FSG are we prepared for a long term decade of long haul, hence next season won't guarantee a CL spot.

yup, thats my feeling too.




nope, its us fans (also).

as much as FSG set out a goal. come on, we all need a goal instead of being aimless right?



we are pretty divided this season with KD. sure, he has his mistakes, don't we all, rafa then too did, he admitted.
are we fans prepared to forgive?

The owners set the club to what their fans expectations & the ambitions of the club. there is no hiding behind we (the fans) are too partly in hand in what happens at the club

This post has been edited by koolspyda: May 17 2012, 10:00 AM

No not yet,


After woeful Roy, we, the club pleaded FSG to call the man we think was the best suitable for the manager, in fact Kenny Dalglsh was more then that in the next 6 months as the INTERIM manager, he was massive, awesome.

We, the club maybe got little carried away, we left it on sentiments that the job should be given to dalglish on a permanent basis. maybe that's where we & the club were not really thinking.

As in hiring for the next CEO, the way forward is to see if the manager gives the right pitch to the owners. Rafa should not be automatic choice (even if I respect the man, my ideal choice).

FSG will, and should remove sentiments & look if the selected candidates are, ticking the right boxes, has the right charisma, has the authority under pressure when massive media spot light eyes on the club, able to stand in toe to toe with fergie. (come on don't lie our selves, we were absolutely mad that uncle Roy was shoe shining that fella), has the believe to crack the whip on players not showing up or falling off a big clubs like Liverpool's standards.

Let all potential candidates go thru the correct recruitment, this time around, even Rafa, then we'll know he not back on sentiments nor favoritism. He's selected because he's the best & scored the marks that's expected of the manager of Liverpool FC.

Whoever it is, i'll support as the best candidate that passes thru the FSG stringent selection process, and no pressure nor sentiments influence them.

This post has been edited by koolspyda: May 17 2012, 04:43 PM

Yes the massive underperforming carrol was a big letdown & probably accounted most of the weight that caused Dalglish's removal.

I know Carroll seems much much better only after the rubbish theatrical fall against Newcastle game. It seems a little too late.

I'm sure hendo, Carroll, downing and Adam will be the most devastated, as their pedigree of the talents will be called into questioned, are they good enough for Liverpool. Excuses aside, even didi hamann isn't impressed.

25million? Willing to soak up 10million loss? I doubt any club will pay more then 10-12million for Andy Carroll. We shot ourselves on the foot. (you can also hear mike Ashley sniggering)

This post has been edited by koolspyda: May 17 2012, 07:15 PM

We better pray and hope englund wins, and Andy Carroll gets the golden boot. It will then be win-win for us. Keep him cause if confidence is restored, sell him, maybe will recoup some back.

Come on englund!

next lfc manager gets 30 million pounds. thats nice.

good luck, man.

i just quoted from "this is anfield" but i remember reading it elsewhere too (dont remember link)
could be just estimate speculation.


should start a poll, for 30 million pounds, how do you strengthen lfc squad?


[edit]

yeah, i just read BBC, its speculated too, the new manager will get 30 million.

This post has been edited by koolspyda: May 18 2012, 01:48 AM

maxi can be a gem at games but i dont think on a regular basis, he is able to cope. yes its a bit boggling why he didnt start more often or even come on as sub often but still there are reservations that he's able to perform as first 11.

I find it strange when people questioned rafa on rotation, then when KD keeps the same 11 often (in hope to have a better understanding on regular basis), people question why doesnt KD rotate?




from rafabenitez.com website


well, to the ManU guys/fans, rafa doesnt always dislike ManU. there are compliments, even if from a professional viewpoint.







judging from his (rafa) replies on his website, a lot of queries form all walks asking, suggesting rafa to be back, but it seems from my viewpoint, he's yet been approached or very coy of not revealing any approach from FSG.
rafa's last entry was on the 17th may 2012. (after the news filtered thru, and many asking if he's coming back)

This post has been edited by koolspyda: May 18 2012, 01:58 AM

yup, permission to talk, i guess this is probably fwded to the potential managers;

"for 30 million, how would you strengthen liverpoolfc, who are your possible targets, why they be able to help the squad to assault top 4 or at least challenging until the final season match....etc"


though not concrete, its the first official news that shows he is within FSG's radar, and it more or less confirm initial reports FSG prefers younger manager.

some might call it Roy 2.0 in the making. or another AVB chelsea's premature tenure,

just hope he ticks all selection process with flying colors tht might confirm him as liverpool fc manager.

This post has been edited by koolspyda: May 18 2012, 02:14 AM